RE: Autoscroll MarkII

2001-08-09 Thread Robert O'Connor

Dirk brought up a good point that most people might not know what a 'tick'
is. Though it is explained in the 'tips' file of the form, a better UI is
not to have to have people looking in the docs for what things do. Will
change as you suggest, to seconds or milliseconds.

Best wishes,
Robert

 MJ == MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  The other thing. In settings you could set the Autoscroll delay in
  Ticks, i guess many users with no programing experience are confused
  by the Ticks. Maybe give this setting in seconds a better?

 MJ Do Ticks vary between machines?

 Don't know, but AFAIK there are SysTicksPerSecond() that should give
 the right value.

 cu,
  Dirk

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RE: Autoscroll MarkII

2001-08-09 Thread Robert O'Connor

 Great work. I had to fix a minor bug in the viewer.rcp.in file or
 it wouldn't compile (the PUSHBUTTON had a NOFRAME option that can't
 be used for these buttons --- maybe it should be DISABLED, too).

Whoops, forgot about that stray NOFRAME, thanks for catching that. DISABLED
is a good idea, I left it off just since that what the PalmOS time set popup
does, but there isn't any real need to be able to click on these ones.
Disabled it is.

 Another thing (that I won't fix:) is that the new strings should
 be added to a *all* language files.

Will do. For the translations of languages I don't know (almost all of
them), is it recommended that I just write the english in, for that language
maintainer to append? Or consult babelfish?

 I don't think the narrow fixed font should be available in the
 Preference form (it should only be used for the pre text).

That one wasn't really a conscious decision--just an artifact that this is
from an earlier version of the current version in the trunk that has pre
tag working instead of just a drop-down option. But just as a question, is
there a particular reason that you don't recommend a fixed width as an
option, since it's already been pretty well paid for in terms in terms of
the font resource? Most people I know prefer to read their email in constant
width text, even though could also read in a variable width font.

 BTW, before this code is merged with the main trunk a description
 of the autoscroll feature should be added to the documentation.

 We might have to think about a way to remove the autoscroll control
 (and also other controls) from the toolbar. As you can see the toolbar
 is quite crowded at the moment, so it will not be possible to add any
 other controls to it. Maybe it should be possible to configure the
 toolbar, i.e. be able to choose what controls that should be included.
 Some of the controls (e.g.  back, home, forward) could always be
 included while other controls would be optional.

Certainly a fair thing if there is many more buttons coming in that would be
tapped often enough to warrant not having to go to the menu each time. Right
now, I can testify first hand that there is no room left for a new button,
after many hours of both the bw and colour icons. If there is something new
that comes up that needs toolbar real estate, I would probably most
recommend sacking the +, - buttons and using those pixels for the incumbent
button. A toolbar selector option would be a handy feature (a list of
checkboxes of controls to display--this is the route that CSpotRun takes?).
I agree that a toolbar manager is probably a better solution than just
hiding the autoscroll since there is no net gain really of just hiding it
(leaves a hole in the middle of the toolbar that can't be used for anything
else), and if things are to slide over and replace it, on the way to a
toolbar manager already.

Best wishes,
Robert




Re: Autoscroll MarkII

2001-08-08 Thread clone

DISCLAIMER:  I haven't downloaded the prc to try it yet.  These are just a couple 
suggestions based on what I read.


Excellent stuff!


-Hitting top or bottom of a page (scrolling up or down respectively) stops
Autoscroll. If later add the tours, can add an if next page on the tour, go
to next page, else stop.

Should there be a (configurable) pause before automatically traversing the link?  If 
the page autoscrolls to the bottom (or to the place where the link is in the doc) and 
then goes right to the next page, I might not have read the last couple of lines 
before the next page appears.  Something to consider.


Also not stop
autoscroll on a link click, to allow to navigate through a many-hyperlinked
text, and have it continue to scroll by--this one may need to get wired up

A pause here might be nice too, but this time a pause emafter/em the link is 
clicked--to provide a line or two head start before the scrolling begins.


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Re: Autoscroll MarkII

2001-08-08 Thread MJ Ray

Dirk Heiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The first time i open the DB and see the new autoscroll control at
 the toolbar i was a little bit confused. I expected that if i see the
 run symbol (the right arrow) the autoscroll are on and if i see the
 stop symbol (the filled black square) the autoscroll is off and taping
 this button change the state.

It depends whether you think of it as an indicator (showing the
current state) or a control (showing the intended state).  Showing the
intended action is consistent with the other controls, I think.

 The other thing. In settings you could set the Autoscroll delay in
 Ticks, i guess many users with no programing experience are confused
 by the Ticks. Maybe give this setting in seconds a better?

Do Ticks vary between machines?