Re: HTML manual tarball (was: Bad manuals)

2001-06-14 Thread Chris Hawks

---On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:16:26 +0200,  Michael Nordström said

> On Thu, Jun 14, 2001, Chris Hawks wrote:
>> Actually, I meant that we should have a tarball available (on the
>> website) that contains only the HTML manual, man pages, and FAQ. So
>> interested parties and people like me who aren't set up to build the
>> manual could get the docs.
>
> And I meant that I have added it to the Makefile so that the next
> time I create new Plucker packages I will also create a HTML manual
> package ;-)
>
> The FAQ is already available at the web site and the man pages are
> in a "correct" format from the very beginning.

Cool! (wiping egg off face ;^)

--re: Re: HTML manual tarball (was: Bad manuals)

 Chris
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Re: HTML manual tarball (was: Bad manuals)

2001-06-14 Thread Michael Nordström

On Thu, Jun 14, 2001, Chris Hawks wrote:
> Actually, I meant that we should have a tarball available (on the
> website) that contains only the HTML manual, man pages, and FAQ. So
> interested parties and people like me who aren't set up to build the
> manual could get the docs.

And I meant that I have added it to the Makefile so that the next
time I create new Plucker packages I will also create a HTML manual
package ;-)

The FAQ is already available at the web site and the man pages are 
in a "correct" format from the very beginning.

/Mike



Re: HTML manual tarball (was: Bad manuals)

2001-06-14 Thread Chris Hawks

---On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:23:52 +0200,  Michael Nordström said

> On Mon, Jun 11, 2001, Chris Hawks wrote:
>>
>> Maybe this would be a good time to lobby for a 'manual - only' tarball.
>
> OK, I have added that to the Makefile. It will only include the HTML
> manual; if you want the Plucker document or the man pages for the
> tools then you have to download the binary package.

Actually, I meant that we should have a tarball available (on the
website) that contains only the HTML manual, man pages, and FAQ. So
interested parties and people like me who aren't set up to build the
manual could get the docs.

--re: HTML manual tarball (was: Bad manuals)

 Chris
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Christopher R. Hawks Software Engineer
Syscon Plantstar a Division of Syscon International








HTML manual tarball (was: Bad manuals)

2001-06-14 Thread Michael Nordström

On Mon, Jun 11, 2001, Chris Hawks wrote:
> 
> Maybe this would be a good time to lobby for a 'manual - only' tarball.

OK, I have added that to the Makefile. It will only include the HTML 
manual; if you want the Plucker document or the man pages for the 
tools then you have to download the binary package.

/Mike



Re: Bad manuals

2001-06-11 Thread Chris Hawks

---On 10 Jun 2001 10:21:00 +0100,  MJ Ray said
> After prompting on the newsgroups, I've noticed that I can't build the
> plucker manuals.  This is because they are in latex but use some
> packages that aren't in tetex, most notably html, but also because
> they want to use latex2html instead of tex4ht (ht latex).

I don't have TeX or the other packages installed so
I take the "coward's" way out. I download the 'bin' tarball and install
only the manual. (I build the rest directly from the source.)

Maybe this would be a good time to lobby for a 'manual - only' tarball.

--re: Bad manuals

 Chris
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Re: Bad manuals

2001-06-10 Thread a . wagner




Hi!

> > Alexander, can you comment?
> 
> Alexander has emailed me off-list to say that it was because tex4ht
> doesn't exist for OS/2 at the time it was written.  He also gave me
> lots of other useful comments.  Can someone tell me what tex4ht
> availability is like on other platforms now?

Actually for building Plucker don't care about OS/2. I mean, there
is no compiler for PalmOS-apps, so on OS/2 nobody will try to actually
build the package. Besides most OS/2 users wouldn't want to build
anything at all. ;)
 
> Also, is the "hyperref" package available on other platforms and tex
> distributions?  Most importantly, miktex on windows, emTeX on OS/2,
> OzTeX (or whatever is the standard now) on Mac and 4allTex on DOS.

If it is a plain TeX-package it should work on OS/2. Concerning emTeX
I must say, that it is allmost unchanged for about 4 years now. And
besides the fact that I wrote the docs on OS/2 I'm pretty sure that
nobody would want to build Plucker nor the docs on that platform. So
you can quite safely leave OS/2 out of scope for that purpose.
And though I really miss my WPS even I had to change my OS recently
to Unix. I strongly hope that the GNOME-people get some of the WPS
functionality working soon. (Templates and stuff which I really miss...)

Concerning mikTeX: As far as I saw from the installation I did for our
secretary at the university it is some sort of teTeX-port. I'd suspect
that everything that works on teTeX will work on mitTeX as well and
in allmost the same fashion. As soon as there is some time I've to install
quite a lot of packages there (RevTeX and stuff like that) and then
I can tell you how compatible it actually is. I want to just copy all the
stuff from our Unix-cluster to that machine run the index generator
and see what happens. If it works, well it would be quite compatible.

Ah, BTW. mikTeX has recently replaced emTeX on Windows, just FYI. That
is before mikTeX became largely known emTeX was there a standard as well.
The reason is that emTeX is (in parts) "family mode" that is an app that
can run both on OS/2 as well as on DOS natively.

About the Mac and a Non-GUI-DOS, I can't comment at all.

--

CU\\  In the beginning was The Word.  //
Alexander Wagner  //  And The Word was Content-type: text/plain   \\




Re: Bad manuals

2001-06-10 Thread MJ Ray

"David A. Desrosiers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   Alexander, can you comment?

Alexander has emailed me off-list to say that it was because tex4ht
doesn't exist for OS/2 at the time it was written.  He also gave me
lots of other useful comments.  Can someone tell me what tex4ht
availability is like on other platforms now?

Also, is the "hyperref" package available on other platforms and tex
distributions?  Most importantly, miktex on windows, emTeX on OS/2,
OzTeX (or whatever is the standard now) on Mac and 4allTex on DOS.

Thanks,
-- 
MJR



Re: Bad manuals

2001-06-10 Thread David A. Desrosiers


> I suggest that the manuals are moved to use tex4ht and hopefully remain
> compatible with building with latex2html.  If no-one is able, I will make
> a start, but it may be some time.  But first I wanted to ask, is there a
> strong reason why latex2html is used?

I believe this was done because the original author of those manuals,
Alexander, uses OS/2, and I'm not sure if 'ht' is ported to OS/2. We have to
make sure we maintain cross-platform compatibility here. We can't break
existing interfaces.

Alexander, can you comment?


/d





Bad manuals

2001-06-10 Thread MJ Ray

After prompting on the newsgroups, I've noticed that I can't build the
plucker manuals.  This is because they are in latex but use some
packages that aren't in tetex, most notably html, but also because
they want to use latex2html instead of tex4ht (ht latex).

Briefly, tetex is the largest standard tex distribution, so I'm
slightly surprised that it's using things not found there.  Also,
tex4ht uses the latex formatting engine to generate html while
latex2html reimplements a subset of it in another language.

I suggest that the manuals are moved to use tex4ht and hopefully
remain compatible with building with latex2html.  If no-one is able, I
will make a start, but it may be some time.  But first I wanted to
ask, is there a strong reason why latex2html is used?
-- 
MJR