Re: Displaying Plucker files from another application?

2004-01-31 Thread Michael Nordstrom
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004, Chris Hawks wrote:

> When the user presses the 'Launcher' button (the Palm way to exit an
> app), Plucker will exit instead of the System stopping it.

That's a MUCH better suggestion than the exit button ;-)

It could be added after the list of bugs have been fixed.

/Mike

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Re: Displaying Plucker files from another application?

2004-01-30 Thread Chris Hawks
---Reply to mail from Michael Nordstrom about Displaying Plucker files from another 
application?

> On Tue, Jan 27, 2004, Chris Hawks wrote:
> 
>> You could file a feature request and ask that an exit button be added.
> 
> There shouldn't be an exit button; that's not the Zen of Palm.

Then how about this simple change???

Add this patch:
--- viewer.c.orig   Sat Jan 17 17:39:47 2004
+++ viewer.cFri Jan 30 21:37:56 2004
@@ -443,6 +443,12 @@
 DoAutoscrollToggle( AUTOSCROLL_OFF );
 break;
 
+case vchrLaunch:
+DoAutoscrollToggle( AUTOSCROLL_OFF );
+SendAppStopEvent();
+handled = true;
+break;
+
 default:
 break;
 }

When the user presses the 'Launcher' button (the Palm way to exit an
app), Plucker will exit instead of the System stopping it. If it was
called from another app, the system will return to the caller, otherwise
the launcher will run.

5 lines of code, 40 bytes.

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Re: Displaying Plucker files from another application?

2004-01-29 Thread Chris Hawks
---Reply to mail from Gerda Shank about Displaying Plucker files from another 
application?

> So it seems like the most attractive two options are
> 1) support for sysAppLaunchOpenDB plus some kind of exit  (TBD)
> 2) stripped down reader

Plucker already supports sysAppLaunchOpenDB (it's used by the launcher
if you select a launchable Database).

> I presume that 1) could be integrated into the Plucker codebase.  Could 
> 2) be
> integrated or would that be something that I would have to build, 
> maintain and
> distribute myself?  That affects the feasibility...

How about a 'PlkrRdr' or 'PluckerLite'? Simply Plucker without the
Library (form and other parts) and an Exit icon replacing the Library icon.
A few well placed '#ifndef PLKR_LITE's should do it.

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Re: Displaying Plucker files from another application?

2004-01-29 Thread Gerda Shank
David A. Desrosiers wrote:

Here's a thought... what about adding a function code, in the
document itself, that would force an exit of Plucker, when tapped?
 

That would work for the documents which I'm providing.  Part of the 
benefit of using
Plucker documents would be to allow users to add documents (from various 
websites,
etc) and it would be an added complication to have to modify the documents
to include an exit.  It feels like a non-elegant solution.

So it seems like the most attractive two options are
1) support for sysAppLaunchOpenDB plus some kind of exit  (TBD)
2) stripped down reader
I presume that 1) could be integrated into the Plucker codebase.  Could 
2) be
integrated or would that be something that I would have to build, 
maintain and
distribute myself?  That affects the feasibility...

Gerda

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Re: Displaying Plucker files from another application?

2004-01-29 Thread David A. Desrosiers

> Would that be packaged as a shared library or a separate application?  If
> my application is commercial, I can't just include Plucker source code,
> can I?

You would be writing a reader, from scratch, that can read the
Plucker document format, based on the existing Plucker document API. If you
took this route, you wouldn't be able to use code that already exists in
Plucker to do it.  You would have to create your reader from scratch, using
the public API.

If, however, you wanted to use Plucker's source code directly in the
reader, that component would have to be covered by the GPL, as a derivitive
work of Plucker itself. There is no reason why these can't be two separate
applications: 1.) Your commercial application (non-free), and 2.) a small
reader that can read Plucker documents (GPL). You can strip quite a lot of
functionality out of Plucker to make a "slim" reader if you wish, to make
this happen.

If you wish to make having Plucker onboard, a requirement for your
application, with the intent of sub-launching Plucker from within your
commecial application, you'll have to make modifications to Plucker directly
to support the "Exit" function, as we've been discussing.

Here's a thought... what about adding a function code, in the
document itself, that would force an exit of Plucker, when tapped?

d.

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Re: Displaying Plucker files from another application?

2004-01-29 Thread Gerda Shank




David A. Desrosiers wrote:

  
I would prefer the equivalent of a "done" button on a document view.
What I would like to do is to have a list of documents in my app - some of
them Plucker documents, some of them other formats.

  
  
	Why not just create a little reader that can read Plucker documents,
from within your application, and put whatever ornaments you wish on that UI
interface?
  

Would that be packaged as a shared library or a separate application?  
If my application is
commercial, I can't just include Plucker source code, can I?

Gerda




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Re: Displaying Plucker files from another application?

2004-01-29 Thread David A. Desrosiers

> I would prefer the equivalent of a "done" button on a document view.
> What I would like to do is to have a list of documents in my app - some of
> them Plucker documents, some of them other formats.

Why not just create a little reader that can read Plucker documents,
from within your application, and put whatever ornaments you wish on that UI
interface?

d.

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Re: Displaying Plucker files from another application?

2004-01-29 Thread Gerda Shank




David A. Desrosiers wrote:

  
But there could be an exit button when Plucker is sublaunched with some
code that requests it.

  
  
	Here's a thought... add a "Back" button to the Library view.
  

I would prefer the equivalent of a "done" button on a document view. 
What I would like to do is to 
have a list of documents in my app - some of them Plucker documents,
some of them other formats.  
When  the user taps the name of a Plucker document it would display.
When they are done reading 
the document they would return to my list with something like the
"done" button in the memo and 
address apps.   So my app would be managing the "library" part...  To
me, the 
sysAppLaunchCmdOpenDB launch code implies that the sublaunch is for a
particular document.  

Gerda Shank






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Re: Displaying Plucker files from another application?

2004-01-28 Thread David A. Desrosiers

> But there could be an exit button when Plucker is sublaunched with some
> code that requests it.

Here's a thought... add a "Back" button to the Library view.


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Re: Displaying Plucker files from another application?

2004-01-28 Thread Alexander R. Pruss
From: "Michael Nordstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2004, Chris Hawks wrote:
>
> > You could file a feature request and ask that an exit button be added.
>
> There shouldn't be an exit button; that's not the Zen of Palm.

But there could be an exit button when Plucker is sublaunched with some code
that requests it.

Alex

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Re: Displaying Plucker files from another application?

2004-01-28 Thread Michael Nordstrom
On Tue, Jan 27, 2004, Chris Hawks wrote:

> You could file a feature request and ask that an exit button be added.

There shouldn't be an exit button; that's not the Zen of Palm.

/Mike

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Re: Displaying Plucker files from another application?

2004-01-28 Thread Chris Hawks
---Reply to mail from Alexander R. Pruss about Displaying Plucker files from another 
application?

> On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Chris Hawks wrote:
>> You could file a feature request and ask that an exit button be added.
> 
> I don't know where it would be put.  Perhaps the best option would be to
> make a custom Plucker version.
> 
> Or maybe yet another compile time option...

It would be (slightly) more useful to me than the autoscroll. Maybe a
compile time option (exit instead of autoscroll control) and a strTblAction
so it can be bound to a key or gesture.

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Re: Displaying Plucker files from another application?

2004-01-27 Thread Alexander R. Pruss
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Chris Hawks wrote:
> You could file a feature request and ask that an exit button be added.

I don't know where it would be put.  Perhaps the best option would be to
make a custom Plucker version.

Or maybe yet another compile time option...

Alex

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Re: Displaying Plucker files from another application?

2004-01-27 Thread Chris Hawks
---Reply to mail from Gerda Shank about Displaying Plucker files from another 
application?

> I am interested in displaying Plucker files from an application that I 
>  am writing.

>>You could just launch Plucker from your app, perhaps?

> I could launch Plucker, but it wouldn't return to my app after the file
> was viewed.

You could use "AppLaunchWithCommand('Plkr', sysAppLaunchCmdOpenDB,
ptr to SysAppLaunchCmdOpenDBType with cardNo and dbID), but, as you say
since Plucker has no exit button, your app is not returned to. If there
was than it would be.

You could file a feature request and ask that an exit button be added.

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Re: Displaying Plucker files from another application?

2004-01-27 Thread Gerda Shank




Alexander R. Pruss wrote:

  
I am interested in displaying Plucker files from an application that I 
am writing.

  
  
You could just launch Plucker from your app, perhaps?
  

I could launch Plucker, but it wouldn't return to my app after the file
was viewed.

Gerda




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Re: Displaying Plucker files from another application?

2004-01-27 Thread Alexander R. Pruss
> I am interested in displaying Plucker files from an application that I 
> am writing.

You could just launch Plucker from your app, perhaps?

Alex
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