Re: [PLUG] Ban me? Ban yourselves.
On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 21:32:15 -0700 Daniel Pittman wrote: -- snipped -- > Y'know what? I have better things to do with my time than hang about > a "Linux" list that will do nothing to prevent trolls making a mess of > the place. If I wanted to watch trolls destroying community I already > know where to find 4chan; I don't need this from a nominally > Linux-focus group. > +1. i'm out. best wishes to you all. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ban me? Ban yourselves.
Michael, Please remember your miranda rights here. Remaining silent at this point would be a very smart thing to do. -Bill Ensley On 10/9/2011 9:52 PM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: > The > hatred has to stop, or maybe we can simply take this outside till > everyone is lying dead face down on the streets of Portland. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ban me? Ban yourselves.
Liar. This wasn't a private message to me. You asked for a response Daniel by putting this on the list. I won't email you privately, but if you get the message because you publicly follow the PLUG list which you have polluted with your post, that's your problem. Prove that I actually intend to destroy the PLUG list. The only thing I want to destroy is preferential treatment and blatant prejudice. Oh and by the way, suck is a bit juvenile. The reaction I want Daniel is to wake people up and if it takes shock and awe to do that, so be it. The hatred has to stop, or maybe we can simply take this outside till everyone is lying dead face down on the streets of Portland. On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 21:32 -0700, Daniel Pittman wrote: > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 21:18, Michael C. Robinson > wrote: > > > If you don't like me bringing up open source projects that don't involve > > Linux, you don't have to read the PLUG list. You should listen to David > > Mandel who says that bringing up non Linux OSS is acceptable. > > Y'know what? I have better things to do with my time than hang about > a "Linux" list that will do nothing to prevent trolls making a mess of > the place. If I wanted to watch trolls destroying community I already > know where to find 4chan; I don't need this from a nominally > Linux-focus group. > > Michael, you suck. Seriously, suck. Sadly, I know this is the > reaction you want to get, but whatever. Continue to try and destroy, > and hopefully any other places I run into you will take a stand > against this sort of awfulness. > > Michael, please do not contact me privately to whine about my > position, or statements. I have no interest in "discussion" with you > on the subject. > > Daniel ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ban me? Ban yourselves.
We will let Homeland Security decide how literal you are. -Bill Ensley On 10/9/2011 9:41 PM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: > On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 21:29 -0700, Bill Ensley wrote: >> Joking or not, I've just gone to my last PLUG meeting. >> >> I'll not even pretend that this guy doesn't scare the crap out of me at >> this point. >> >> -Bill Ensley > The hyperbole was necessary to communicate a point, there is no need to > expect an actual attack on a PLUG meeting. Like I said in my message, > don't take the next two paragraphs too seriously. There was a point, > but you don't see the point if you interpret what I wrote too literally. > > Reality check, would I announce that I'm going to blow up a building > before doing so? Never mind that I have no idea how to handle dynamite > and no idea where to get some. > > Besides, does it not make sense to you that I'd be angry concerning the > level of discrimination I've received? > > Are you really any better than Keith Lofstrom or Mike Connors responding > in this way? > > Read what I wrote again, but don't be so literal with the two paragraphs > in question. > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ban me? Ban yourselves.
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 21:18, Michael C. Robinson wrote: > If you don't like me bringing up open source projects that don't involve > Linux, you don't have to read the PLUG list. You should listen to David > Mandel who says that bringing up non Linux OSS is acceptable. Y'know what? I have better things to do with my time than hang about a "Linux" list that will do nothing to prevent trolls making a mess of the place. If I wanted to watch trolls destroying community I already know where to find 4chan; I don't need this from a nominally Linux-focus group. Michael, you suck. Seriously, suck. Sadly, I know this is the reaction you want to get, but whatever. Continue to try and destroy, and hopefully any other places I run into you will take a stand against this sort of awfulness. Michael, please do not contact me privately to whine about my position, or statements. I have no interest in "discussion" with you on the subject. Daniel -- ♲ Made with 100 percent post-consumer electrons ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ban me? Ban yourselves.
Joking or not, I've just gone to my last PLUG meeting. I'll not even pretend that this guy doesn't scare the crap out of me at this point. -Bill Ensley On 10/9/2011 9:18 PM, Michael C. Robinson wrote: > Know what I should do, I should come to the PLUG meeting with enough > dynamite strapped to my body to take out a building. I'd go to hell > for it, but at least I'd take some bigots down with me. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Ban me? Ban yourselves.
If you don't like me bringing up open source projects that don't involve Linux, you don't have to read the PLUG list. You should listen to David Mandel who says that bringing up non Linux OSS is acceptable. If you don't like religious comments from me, you don't have to put up with them from Keith or anyone else either. Same goes for political comments. "--Don't take the next two paragraphs too seriously--" Know what I should do, I should come to the PLUG meeting with enough dynamite strapped to my body to take out a building. I'd go to hell for it, but at least I'd take some bigots down with me. Seriously though, I'm not going to join the conservative army of the Midwest unless Obama becomes president again and ruins whats left of our economy. When that happens, all bets are off. When the second civil war comes, at least I know which side I'll be on. When eastern Oregon purges western Oregon of liberal life hating democrats, I know which side I'll be on. Those who pollute my home with their socialist and anti life rhetoric will see no mercy shown to them. Still reading? No, I'm not a sleeping terrorist. This should be seen as far enough out there that it can make a point, but not cause undo alarm. How do you think the list reads for me when people twist every comment I make and preferentially target me for ridicule? I don't believe in worship of one's wife. I do not believe that high taxes on the rich is a legitimate strategy to stimulate the economy, but I am adamant about protecting the environment and helping the poor. Taxing the rich to give jobs to the poor will only undermine people's incentive to work. I am still deeply offended by Keith's wife worship and I will never apologize to Keith concerning the vulgar display he put on here. Indeed, nobody can have a religious or political opinion that is not in line with those who are receiving preferential treatment here. Why should I have to put up with wife idolatry or comments on how great Obama is? Do I have to care about Obama's shoe problems? How about the way Obama pulled us out of a fight we were winning in Iraq only to bungle the fight in Afghanistan? How many people have to die in Afghanistan before we realize that being there isn't the answer? It's just Vietnam all over, we don't know who to trust and our people are frequently outgunned and outflanked. How many Chinook helicopters do we have to lose? The civil war I speak of is fictional at the moment, thank God. Thing is, if we the American people don't get our moral bearings, we can expect one soon enough. The way liberal news reporters rip at Republican candidates, there is going to be a backlash. There is more than just a difference of opinion between liberals and conservatives, Republicans and Democrats, there is genuine hatred bubbling up. Unfortunately, I see both Republicans and Democrats heading to the extremes. This is dangerous, the need for common ground and common values is greater than it has been for probably a century. I want a candidate who: respects human life, respects the environment, sees the need to replace our reliance on foreign oil with hydrogen, and I want a candidate who will get us out of Afghanistan as soon as possible. I want a candidate who will not endanger marriage by giving the title married to same sex couples. Every child deserves to be the result of a loving union between a husband and a wife, not two women and a dozen anonymous sperm donors. We deserve male and female parents and we deserve to be both well treated and well raised by them. In short, tune out if you must. Let the hatred bubble and the country turn in on itself. Democracy is fragile where only the grace of God, because there is freedom of religion, allows our democracy to persevere. There is no religious freedom when idolatry is the norm and you can't protest it. There is no religious freedom when an anti life president is literally worshiped by his most ardent followers and his detractors are excluded from public discourse. Obama is the least ethical and weakest president this nation has ever had. Obama has almost, by his policies, set off another great depression. Ban me? Ignore me at your peril. There is another viewpoint that is opposite to the preferred one, a viewpoint that could be correct and that could carry with it dire consequences. Franklin Delano Roosevelt did not pull this nation out of the Great Depression, World War 2 did. Obama is not the answer. Civil war is not the answer. If the exodus from moderate politics continues though, civil war will come. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
