Re: [PLUG] RIP Paul Nelson

2017-01-04 Thread Terry Griffin
My favorite Paul Nelson story.

A *very* long time ago I was the Linux columnist for local monthly 
computer magazine, and at the time I was also a regular attendee at the 
Riverdale clinics.

At one point I did a three-part series in the column about Linux 
security. In the first installment I made the following point, and I'm 
paraphrasing because I don't remember my exact words:

"Despite what I'm about to tell you, the person that can do the most 
damage to your system is you the administrator, not some intruder. So 
the number one rule is, don't do anything as root user that you can do 
as an ordinary user instead."

So at the next clinic Paul questions me about this. He was still early 
in his Linux learning curve and had come from the Windows world (then 
Windows 95/98, to date myself). He didn't understand my point. He asked, 
if it's just my own personal computer why not just do everything as 
root? I explained, well you could do that, but you're introducing risk 
either because of security bugs in your web browser (not such a big 
concern back then) or more likely from your own mistakes at the shell 
prompt. He still didn't understand. I let it go.

At the next clinic a month later Paul came up to me and simply said "I 
understand now."

Terry


On 01/04/2017 10:09 AM, Marvin Kosmal wrote:
> I found Paul, Eric, and the Clinic to be the best of the best.
>
> Marvin
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> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Michael Rasmussen 
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>> On 2017-01-03 14:56, Michael Dexter wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I have just heard about the passing of Paul Nelson, long-time PLUG
>>> member and Clinic organizer.
>>>
>>> :(
>> Massive ow.
>>
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Re: [PLUG] RIP Paul Nelson

2017-01-04 Thread Marvin Kosmal
I found Paul, Eric, and the Clinic to be the best of the best.

Marvin


On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Michael Rasmussen 
wrote:

> On 2017-01-03 14:56, Michael Dexter wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have just heard about the passing of Paul Nelson, long-time PLUG
> > member and Clinic organizer.
> >
> > :(
>
> Massive ow.
>
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Re: [PLUG] RIP Paul Nelson

2017-01-04 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On 2017-01-03 14:56, Michael Dexter wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I have just heard about the passing of Paul Nelson, long-time PLUG
> member and Clinic organizer.
> 
> :(

Massive ow.

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Re: [PLUG] RIP Paul Nelson

2017-01-04 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 4 Jan 2017, Paul Heinlein wrote:

> I too remember Paul, who so kindly openen his classroom at the old
> Riverdale campus for us. He was a fine host.

   Paul and Eric hosted the clinic for about a decade and started the
local linux-K12 program that brought a lot of teachers to the clinic, too.
Paul was always helpful, open, and enthusiastic.

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] RIP Paul Nelson

2017-01-04 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Wed, 4 Jan 2017, Russell Senior wrote:

>> "Michael" == Michael Dexter  writes:
>
> Michael> Hello all,
>
> Michael> I have just heard about the passing of Paul Nelson, long-time
> Michael> PLUG member and Clinic organizer.
>
> Michael> :(
>
> That's horrible.  I remember Paul, from having helped out at the
> Riverdale clinics.  Is there an obit anywhere?  I looked at the O,
> didn't find it.

Obituaries at The Oregonian are very expensive. Passing on one was 
about the easiest decision we made when my wife's aunt died a few 
months ago.

I too remember Paul, who so kindly openen his classroom at the old 
Riverdale campus for us. He was a fine host.

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Re: [PLUG] RIP Paul Nelson

2017-01-04 Thread Russell Senior
> "Michael" == Michael Dexter  writes:

Michael> Hello all,

Michael> I have just heard about the passing of Paul Nelson, long-time
Michael> PLUG member and Clinic organizer.

Michael> :(

That's horrible.  I remember Paul, from having helped out at the
Riverdale clinics.  Is there an obit anywhere?  I looked at the O,
didn't find it.


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