[PLUG] December PLUG meeting possibilities

2023-12-02 Thread Russell Senior

GOOD NEWS:

 * We MIGHT have a speaker for the December PLUG talk.

 * We DO have a venue available.

BAD NEWS:

 * The speaker we might have is me. I have been on an "ancient tape 
restoration adventure" over the last few months, and that might be a fun 
story and set of problems to demonstrate and talk about.


 * The Actually Exciting speaker I have partially-willing to talk has a 
very busy mail box and a classic (and presumed) mail box management 
technique is to just not worry about ignoring incoming emails, and I 
haven't heard a response from my recent ping and they almost certainly 
are not going to be available for December's meeting in (checks 
calendar) 5 days.


QUESTION:

"Excitement" and "Fun" are local phenomena, the intensity of which might 
vary significantly from person to person. Therefore, it is worth asking:


 * ARE YOU WILLING TO SIT THROUGH RUSSELL BLABBERING ABOUT HIS ANCIENT 
TAPES/TAPE DRIVES AND ASSOCIATED PROBLEMS?


or

 * ARE YOU WILLING TO TALK YOURSELF INSTEAD, JUST TO AVOID HAVING TO 
LISTEN TO RUSSELL BLABBER?


or

 * WOULD YOU PREFER A HOLIDAY-INFUSED UnPLUG?


Please let me know your preference, either in a mailing list reply or to 
me privately.



--
Russell Senior
PLUG Volunteer
russ...@pdxlinux.org



[PLUG-ANNOUNCE] December PLUG meeting possibilities

2023-12-02 Thread Russell Senior

GOOD NEWS:

 * We MIGHT have a speaker for the December PLUG talk.

 * We DO have a venue available.

BAD NEWS:

 * The speaker we might have is me. I have been on an "ancient tape 
restoration adventure" over the last few months, and that might be a fun 
story and set of problems to demonstrate and talk about.


 * The Actually Exciting speaker I have partially-willing to talk has a 
very busy mail box and a classic (and presumed) mail box management 
technique is to just not worry about ignoring incoming emails, and I 
haven't heard a response from my recent ping and they almost certainly 
are not going to be available for December's meeting in (checks 
calendar) 5 days.


QUESTION:

"Excitement" and "Fun" are local phenomena, the intensity of which might 
vary significantly from person to person. Therefore, it is worth asking:


 * ARE YOU WILLING TO SIT THROUGH RUSSELL BLABBERING ABOUT HIS ANCIENT 
TAPES/TAPE DRIVES AND ASSOCIATED PROBLEMS?


or

 * ARE YOU WILLING TO TALK YOURSELF INSTEAD, JUST TO AVOID HAVING TO 
LISTEN TO RUSSELL BLABBER?


or

 * WOULD YOU PREFER A HOLIDAY-INFUSED UnPLUG?


Please let me know your preference, either in a mailing list reply or to 
me privately.



--
Russell Senior
PLUG Volunteer
russ...@pdxlinux.org

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Re: [PLUG] strange system behavior - inotify problem?

2023-12-02 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
I suspect a clue to your issue is in your post, - see the following:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/639540/how-much-memory-can-a-32-bit-process-access-on-a-64-bit-operating-system

I suspect that somewhere in that mess you might have a program that's not 64 
bit clean.

Just for grins try defining an 8GB ramdrive as your swapfile and I'll bet the 
freezing disappears.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: PLUG  On Behalf Of American Citizen
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2023 10:53 AM
To: Portland Linux/Unix Group 
Subject: [PLUG] strange system behavior - inotify problem?

Hello:

I have a very interesting problem occurring my opensuse Leap 15.5 linux system.

I am crunching number theory modules, using magma to do descents on elliptic 
curves. I do open a new konsole screen and do a tail on the magma results, in 
real time. There are 6 magma programs executing in this way at the same time.

I also have 3 monitoring programs, but they are set up as a bash script file 
with a while [ 1 ] loop, but each has a sleep nnn seconds at the end of the 
loop.

I was getting occasionally the tail warning message, no files left for tail, 
using polling instead.

I installed the inotify-comment bash script from the stackexchange web page 
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/15509/whos-consuming-my-inotify-resources.
 
Running this script does not show anything unusual, I am only using 402 watches 
in 131 instances. I did up the values in the sysctl.conf file to large sizes, 
so I don't suspect that the problem is caused by this.

The system strangely halts the start of a new process, for up to 20 secs at a 
time, for example, I tried to open up a new Konsole screen and the window opens 
up, but then sits there for a period of time before completing the interior of 
the screen.

Another example, while typing this email, I made a mistake and had to back up, 
the moment I hit the backspace key, everything froze for about
10 secs or so, before resuming.

Third example, one of my monitoring screens suddenly went into uninterruptable 
mode, trying using control-C did not work, I had to terminate the Konsole 
screen and restart the bash script over again in a new window.

Right now I don't know quite what to do? This is slowing things way down for 
me, while the system seems fine, I am only using 4 gigs of the 32 gigs system 
RAM, so that should not be a problem.

Puzzled -

Randall




[PLUG] strange system behavior - inotify problem?

2023-12-02 Thread American Citizen

Hello:

I have a very interesting problem occurring my opensuse Leap 15.5 linux 
system.


I am crunching number theory modules, using magma to do descents on 
elliptic curves. I do open a new konsole screen and do a tail on the 
magma results, in real time. There are 6 magma programs executing in 
this way at the same time.


I also have 3 monitoring programs, but they are set up as a bash script 
file with a while [ 1 ] loop, but each has a sleep nnn seconds at the 
end of the loop.


I was getting occasionally the tail warning message, no files left for 
tail, using polling instead.


I installed the inotify-comment bash script from the stackexchange web 
page 
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/15509/whos-consuming-my-inotify-resources. 
Running this script does not show anything unusual, I am only using 402 
watches in 131 instances. I did up the values in the sysctl.conf file to 
large sizes, so I don't suspect that the problem is caused by this.


The system strangely halts the start of a new process, for up to 20 secs 
at a time, for example, I tried to open up a new Konsole screen and the 
window opens up, but then sits there for a period of time before 
completing the interior of the screen.


Another example, while typing this email, I made a mistake and had to 
back up, the moment I hit the backspace key, everything froze for about 
10 secs or so, before resuming.


Third example, one of my monitoring screens suddenly went into 
uninterruptable mode, trying using control-C did not work, I had to 
terminate the Konsole screen and restart the bash script over again in a 
new window.


Right now I don't know quite what to do? This is slowing things way down 
for me, while the system seems fine, I am only using 4 gigs of the 32 
gigs system RAM, so that should not be a problem.


Puzzled -

Randall