Re: [PLUG] Touch support in Linux

2024-02-01 Thread VY
Thanks for the info

On Wed, Jan 31, 2024, 22:18 Russell Senior  wrote:

>
>
> On 1/31/24 19:50, VY wrote:
> > Dear All
> >
> > I am looking to get one of those Dell 2-1 laptop with touch.  Does Linux
> > supports touchscreen well?   I googled online and got good positive
> reviews.
> > I also want to check here for any tips
>
> I have a Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro from about 10 years ago, and a couple HP x360
> laptops with touch screens and they both work fine. I rarely use them,
> but they do work.
>
> --
> Russell Senior
> russ...@pdxlinux.org
>


[PLUG] SMS/Texting interface for Linux desktop/laptop

2024-02-01 Thread Keith Lofstrom
Many people use SMS messaging and handheld screen taps,
but not email. 

Is there a good SMS-to-SMTP-email service Out There? 
Alternatively, is there a good Linux-compatible
hardware for this task?

Keith L.

-- 
Keith Lofstrom  kei...@keithl.com


[PLUG] February in-person PLUG meeting: New Year Show and Tell

2024-02-01 Thread Michael Dexter

Portland Linux/Unix Group General Meeting Announcement

Who: Ted, Michael, YOU...
What: New Year Show and Tell
Where: 5500 SW Dosch Rd, Portland
When: Thursday, February 1st, 2024 at 7pm (Help with chairs a few 
minutes early is always appreciated)

Why: The pursuit of technology freedom

Ted: Bandwidth monitoring OpenWRT and DD-WRT routers with MRTG

Michael: Managing Windows from FreeBSD Environments

You: What have you been working on this last few months?


Rules and Requests:

Masks are encouraged but not required. CCC in Germany sent a LOT of 
people home with COVID-19. 19 as in 2019 and please people, it's not 
something we want to hang on to.


PLUG is open to everyone and does not tolerate abusive behavior on its 
mailing lists or at its meetings


Do not leave valuables in your car


Calagator Page: https://calagator.org/events/1250480945

Google Maps Link:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/5500+SW+Dosch+Rd,+Portland,+OR+97239

Some might head to Hillsdale Brewery & Public House near the Library:
https://www.mcmenamins.com/hillsdale-brewery-public-house

Rideshares likely available

PLUG Page with information about all PLUG events: http://pdxlinux.org/

Michael Dexter
PLUG Volunteer


Re: [PLUG] SMS/Texting interface for Linux desktop/laptop

2024-02-01 Thread Bill Barry
On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 2:35 PM Keith Lofstrom  wrote:
>
> Many people use SMS messaging and handheld screen taps,
> but not email.
>
> Is there a good SMS-to-SMTP-email service Out There?
> Alternatively, is there a good Linux-compatible
> hardware for this task?
>
> Keith L.
>
> --
> Keith Lofstrom  kei...@keithl.com

I do most of my text messaging from the browser on good
Linux-compatible hardware with a nice sized real  keyboard. I don't
know if all cell providers make this available, but Google Fi does.


[PLUG] Weather underground no longer reached by browser

2024-02-01 Thread Rich Shepard

I tried refreshing https://www.wunderground.com and both brave and chromium
tell me that URL cannot be reached: Atlanta (404) error code displayed. Yet
I can ping the URL. What might explain this?

TIA,

Rich


[PLUG] Testing mailx script

2024-02-01 Thread Rich Shepard

I have a list of four test addresses, all individuals @example.com. Is there
a better domain I should use to test whether the script works as intended
when sent from my local MTA?

TIA,

Rich


Re: [PLUG] Testing mailx script

2024-02-01 Thread MC_Sequoia
Rich - If you do a web search on temporary email addresses, you can quickly and 
easily get an email address or addresses to use for testing purposes.

Sent from Proton Mail mobile

 Original Message 
On Feb 1, 2024, 1:19 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:

> I have a list of four test addresses, all individuals @example.com. Is there 
> a better domain I should use to test whether the script works as intended 
> when sent from my local MTA? TIA, Rich

Re: [PLUG] Weather underground no longer reached by browser

2024-02-01 Thread Rich Shepard

On Thu, 1 Feb 2024, Rich Shepard wrote:


I tried refreshing https://www.wunderground.com and both brave and
chromium tell me that URL cannot be reached: Atlanta (404) error code
displayed. Yet I can ping the URL. What might explain this?


Strange. I, too, can load it on the mobile phone.

Perhaps tomorrow morning it will have recovered from whatever ails it now.

Rich


Re: [PLUG] Testing mailx script

2024-02-01 Thread Rich Shepard

On Thu, 1 Feb 2024, MC_Sequoia wrote:


Rich - If you do a web search on temporary email addresses, you can
quickly and easily get an email address or addresses to use for testing
purposes.


That would not have occurred to me. So much to learn and so little time.

Many thanks!

Rich


Re: [PLUG] Weather underground no longer reached by browser

2024-02-01 Thread MC_Sequoia
Rich -What happens if you search on weather underground and then click on the 
search result?

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 Original Message 
On Feb 1, 2024, 1:23 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:

> I tried refreshing https://www.wunderground.com and both brave and chromium 
> tell me that URL cannot be reached: Atlanta (404) error code displayed. Yet I 
> can ping the URL. What might explain this? TIA, Rich

Re: [PLUG] Weather underground no longer reached by browser

2024-02-01 Thread Rich Shepard

On Thu, 1 Feb 2024, MC_Sequoia wrote:


Rich -What happens if you search on weather underground and then click on
the search result?


MC,

It loads just as it has for years. Sonofagun!

I had tried entering wunderground.com in a new tab and that also failed.

Strange.

Thanks for the pointer.

Rich


Re: [PLUG] Weather underground no longer reached by browser

2024-02-01 Thread MC_Sequoia
I'm just speculating here, but I'm guessing you might have ran into a stale DNS 
entry due to some change upstream, etc.

Try direct URL again, in guessing your location DNS cache got updated.

In the future, don't ping URL, use nslookuo or dig command on wunderground.com. 
If you can't DNS name resolution to an IP address, then that's what's going on

Sent from Proton Mail mobile

 Original Message 
On Feb 1, 2024, 2:41 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Feb 2024, MC_Sequoia wrote: > Rich -What happens if you search on 
> weather underground and then click on > the search result? MC, It loads just 
> as it has for years. Sonofagun! I had tried entering wunderground.com in a 
> new tab and that also failed. Strange. Thanks for the pointer. Rich

Re: [PLUG] Weather underground no longer reached by browser

2024-02-01 Thread Russell Senior
One caveat to that is that modern browsers may be (i think it's on by
default with firefox) doing their own DNS via DNS-over-HTTPS or
DNS-over-TLS, so stand alone tools like dig or nslookup might give
different results than your browser.

-- 
Russell Senior
russ...@personaltelco.net

On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 2:48 PM MC_Sequoia  wrote:

> I'm just speculating here, but I'm guessing you might have ran into a
> stale DNS entry due to some change upstream, etc.
>
> Try direct URL again, in guessing your location DNS cache got updated.
>
> In the future, don't ping URL, use nslookuo or dig command on
> wunderground.com. If you can't DNS name resolution to an IP address, then
> that's what's going on
>
> Sent from Proton Mail mobile
>
>  Original Message 
> On Feb 1, 2024, 2:41 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 1 Feb 2024, MC_Sequoia wrote: > Rich -What happens if you search
> on weather underground and then click on > the search result? MC, It loads
> just as it has for years. Sonofagun! I had tried entering wunderground.com
> in a new tab and that also failed. Strange. Thanks for the pointer. Rich


Re: [PLUG] SMS/Texting interface for Linux desktop/laptop

2024-02-01 Thread Russell Senior
I think all the major carriers have an email to SMS gateway. That is, 
you can email an special address and it will be converted to an SMS and 
delivered to mobile devices. I have a watchdog processes that checks 
ping-ability to a particular address and if it fails, I send an email to 
myself with: sendmail @tmomail.net


Works at least in that direction.

--
Russell Senior
russ...@pdxlinux.org

On 2/1/24 12:30, Keith Lofstrom wrote:

Many people use SMS messaging and handheld screen taps,
but not email.

Is there a good SMS-to-SMTP-email service Out There?
Alternatively, is there a good Linux-compatible
hardware for this task?

Keith L.


Re: [PLUG] SMS/Texting interface for Linux desktop/laptop

2024-02-01 Thread Russell Senior




On 2/1/24 16:16, Russell Senior wrote:
I think all the major carriers have an email to SMS gateway. That is, 
you can email an special address and it will be converted to an SMS 
and delivered to mobile devices. I have a watchdog processes that 
checks ping-ability to a particular address and if it fails, I send an 
email to myself with: sendmail @tmomail.net


Works at least in that direction.



As a test, I email'd my t-mobile sms gateway, received the SMS right 
away, replied with my SMS messaging app, and about 10 minutes later, the 
reply showed up in my email box. The delay appears to be a result of 
some greylisting in the return path.


--
Russell Senior
russ...@pdxlinux.org


Re: [PLUG] SMS/Texting interface for Linux desktop/laptop

2024-02-01 Thread Bill Barry
On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 6:32 PM Russell Senior  wrote:
>
>
>
> On 2/1/24 16:16, Russell Senior wrote:
> > I think all the major carriers have an email to SMS gateway. That is,
> > you can email an special address and it will be converted to an SMS
> > and delivered to mobile devices. I have a watchdog processes that
> > checks ping-ability to a particular address and if it fails, I send an
> > email to myself with: sendmail @tmomail.net
> >
> > Works at least in that direction.
> >
>
> As a test, I email'd my t-mobile sms gateway, received the SMS right
> away, replied with my SMS messaging app, and about 10 minutes later, the
> reply showed up in my email box. The delay appears to be a result of
> some greylisting in the return path.
>
> --
> Russell Senior
> russ...@pdxlinux.org

Google Messages uses the phone as the gateway.  The web app sends the
messages to and receives the messages from the phone. If the phone is
off this does not work. However the phone does not need to be nearby,
just on and connected to the internet and in a cell coverage area.

Bill


Re: [PLUG] Weather underground no longer reached by browser

2024-02-01 Thread MC_Sequoia
"One caveat to that is that modern browsers may be (i think it's on by default 
with firefox) doing their own DNS via DNS-over-HTTPS or
DNS-over-TLS, so stand alone tools like dig or nslookup might give
different results than your browser."

Possibly, my networking-fu ain't what it used to be and much has changed in the 
meantime.

However, what you're really trying to is compare what an Internet DNS, like 
Google's 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4 resolves wunderground.com to and what you the pc's 
local dns cache and/or the ISP's DNS resolves it to.

For many years, whenever possible, I always reconfigure my DNS to point to 
Google's or OSU's public DNS, both ipv4 and ipv6.

Lately, I've had really good results running SmartDNS instead of some other 
local DNS caching like djbdns. 

Nothing bugs me more than waiting for a web site to load while I see all this 
back & forth communication in the left hand corner of my browser. Especially 
when I see redirects to F!facebook,twitter, and whatever other BS non-sense 
that I don't use.


Re: [PLUG] SMS/Texting interface for Linux desktop/laptop

2024-02-01 Thread MC_Sequoia
"Google Messages uses the phone as the gateway. The web app sends the messages 
to and receives the messages from the phone. If the phone is off this does not 
work. However the phone does not need to be nearby just on and connected to the 
internet and in a cell coverage area."

If you're already using Google Messages, the you can use their web app from any 
pc browser, https://messages.google.com/web/authentication

I've a Google Voice acct that I use to text from my pc browser. 

One advantage of it over the Google Messages web app is that I don't have to 
constantly re-link my phone as my phone is usually always in airplane mode 
unless I've a specific need to use it. 



Re: [PLUG] SMS/Texting interface for Linux desktop/laptop

2024-02-01 Thread Bill Barry
On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 7:03 PM MC_Sequoia  wrote:
>
> "Google Messages uses the phone as the gateway. The web app sends the 
> messages to and receives the messages from the phone. If the phone is off 
> this does not work. However the phone does not need to be nearby just on and 
> connected to the internet and in a cell coverage area."
>
> If you're already using Google Messages, the you can use their web app from 
> any pc browser, https://messages.google.com/web/authentication
>
> I've a Google Voice acct that I use to text from my pc browser.
>
> One advantage of it over the Google Messages web app is that I don't have to 
> constantly re-link my phone as my phone is usually always in airplane mode 
> unless I've a specific need to use it.

Is that the free Google Voice account or one of the paid ones?

Bill


Re: [PLUG] SMS/Texting interface for Linux desktop/laptop

2024-02-01 Thread MC_Sequoia
"Is that the free Google Voice account or one of the paid ones?"

Free