Re: [PLUG] Any Java Coders Here?

2015-01-22 Thread Nat Taylor
or, as I've never set environment variables on Windows, maybe gradle would
be easier: http://hsqldb.org/doc/guide/building-app.html#bga_gradle_invoke

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Nat Taylor biob...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://hsqldb.org/doc/guide/building-app.html#bga_building_ant

 On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 7:58 PM, Patrick J. Timlick p.j.timl...@ieee.org
 wrote:

 It matters what are you installing hsqldb on. My friend google gave me
 lots
 of information from hsqldb install ubuntu.  How about you take a shot at
 it, go as far as you can in a time box and then tell us what you did and
 what happened.   We can help you from there.  Good Luck.  -- Pat

 On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Mark Phillips 
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
 wrote:

  And you are running LibreOffice on iPads and iPhones? And you want to
  connect LO on your iphone to a database?
 
  I am impressed!
 
  Mark
 
  On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com
 
  wrote:
 
   On Wed, 21 Jan 2015, Mark Phillips wrote:
  
Are they on a network?
  
  Well, if you consider iPyones and iPads being on a network, yes.
  
   Rich
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[PLUG] Any Java Coders Here?

2015-01-21 Thread Rich Shepard
   For a couple of database applications that will be used by Microserfs it
appears the most parsimonious development path is to use LibreOffice's Base
tool. Base uses HyperSQL (a.k.a. hsqldb) which is a rdbms written in jave. I
was told that hsqldb-1.8 built into LO-4.3.5 is as buggy as a summer evening
along a Michigan lake because of what Oracle took out or added in compared
to the stand-alone version. Numerous reports of data loss. So, ...

   Having lost most masochistic tendencies I downloaded hsqldb-2.3.2 and will
install a third rdbms just for these two applications. But, there are no
instructions in the source .zip file on how to build and install it! I kid
you not. They must assume that only experienced java coders will use it.

   If you know java development, please contact me off the list. I'll provide
a list of the contents of the build/ directory. Tried what looked like a
main file, but no joy there.

TIA,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Any Java Coders Here?

2015-01-21 Thread King Beowulf
On Wednesday, January 21, 2015, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com
wrote:

For a couple of database applications that will be used by Microserfs it
 appears the most parsimonious development path is to use LibreOffice's Base
 tool. Base uses HyperSQL (a.k.a. hsqldb) which is a rdbms written in jave.
 I
 was told that hsqldb-1.8 built into LO-4.3.5 is as buggy as a summer
 evening
 along a Michigan lake because of what Oracle took out or added in compared
 to the stand-alone version. Numerous reports of data loss. So, ...


Why not have libreoffice base plug into mariadb instead?  Mariadb already
comes with Slackware, is compatible with all MySQL scripts (it's a fork)
and is solid as a rock AFAIK.

Rummage around documentfoundation.org for plugins/connectors and How-TOs

-Ed


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Re: [PLUG] Any Java Coders Here?

2015-01-21 Thread Mark Phillips
Are they on a network? Can the reach a network install that you maintain?

Just spit-balling here.

Marl

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com
wrote:

 On Wed, 21 Jan 2015, Mark Phillips wrote:

  Why not MySQL with Libreoffice?

 Mark,

For the same reason as not postgres (my preferred
 multi-user/client-server
 rdbms): the users are naive and run only windows. There's no way they can
 install and maintain postgres (or even mysql) in addition to everything
 else.

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Re: [PLUG] Any Java Coders Here?

2015-01-21 Thread Mark Phillips
Why not MySQL with Libreoffice?

http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/mysql-native-connector-for-libreoffice-4.x

Mark

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:39 PM, King Beowulf kingbeow...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wednesday, January 21, 2015, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com
 wrote:

 For a couple of database applications that will be used by Microserfs
 it
  appears the most parsimonious development path is to use LibreOffice's
 Base
  tool. Base uses HyperSQL (a.k.a. hsqldb) which is a rdbms written in
 jave.
  I
  was told that hsqldb-1.8 built into LO-4.3.5 is as buggy as a summer
  evening
  along a Michigan lake because of what Oracle took out or added in
 compared
  to the stand-alone version. Numerous reports of data loss. So, ...
 
 
 Why not have libreoffice base plug into mariadb instead?  Mariadb already
 comes with Slackware, is compatible with all MySQL scripts (it's a fork)
 and is solid as a rock AFAIK.

 Rummage around documentfoundation.org for plugins/connectors and How-TOs

 -Ed


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Re: [PLUG] Any Java Coders Here?

2015-01-21 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015, Mark Phillips wrote:

 Are they on a network?

   Well, if you consider iPyones and iPads being on a network, yes.

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Re: [PLUG] Any Java Coders Here?

2015-01-21 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015, Mark Phillips wrote:

 Why not MySQL with Libreoffice?

Mark,

   For the same reason as not postgres (my preferred multi-user/client-server
rdbms): the users are naive and run only windows. There's no way they can
install and maintain postgres (or even mysql) in addition to everything
else.

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Re: [PLUG] Any Java Coders Here?

2015-01-21 Thread Mark Phillips
And you are running LibreOffice on iPads and iPhones? And you want to
connect LO on your iphone to a database?

I am impressed!

Mark

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com
wrote:

 On Wed, 21 Jan 2015, Mark Phillips wrote:

  Are they on a network?

Well, if you consider iPyones and iPads being on a network, yes.

 Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Any Java Coders Here?

2015-01-21 Thread Patrick J. Timlick
It matters what are you installing hsqldb on. My friend google gave me lots
of information from hsqldb install ubuntu.  How about you take a shot at
it, go as far as you can in a time box and then tell us what you did and
what happened.   We can help you from there.  Good Luck.  -- Pat

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
wrote:

 And you are running LibreOffice on iPads and iPhones? And you want to
 connect LO on your iphone to a database?

 I am impressed!

 Mark

 On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com
 wrote:

  On Wed, 21 Jan 2015, Mark Phillips wrote:
 
   Are they on a network?
 
 Well, if you consider iPyones and iPads being on a network, yes.
 
  Rich
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