Re: [PLUG] two column xterm?
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 01:36:19PM -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > My previous rant on screen width reminded me - are there any > programs that work like xterm but bring up two or more windows, > one scrolling into the other, like two-column mode in word > processors? This would be nice for working on long ascii > documents. You could start using a tiling window manager[1], something like i3[2] or dwm[3]. People are using these on everything from ubuntu to NetBSD. Adding in screen[4] or dvtm[5] gets you even more versatality. Jeff W. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager [2] http://i3.zekjur.net/ [3] http://dwm.suckless.org/ [4] http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/ [5] http://www.brain-dump.org/projects/dvtm/ ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] two column xterm?
Keith Lofstrom wrote: >From the responses so far, I think the answer is "no". The goal > is to use a laptop with (multiple virtual windows) to show scrolling > xterm output is this scrolling xterm output a log file? arbitrary rubblish listing from whatever? > Turning the laptop screen sideways? (Rip, crunch, spark, poof) > THAT didn't work ... Could of, with a tablet. -- Michael Rasmussen http://www.jamhome.us/ Be Appropriate && Follow Your Curiosity ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] two column xterm?
On Jun 10, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > My previous rant on screen width reminded me - are there any > programs that work like xterm but bring up two or more windows, > one scrolling into the other, like two-column mode in word > processors? This would be nice for working on long ascii > documents. >From the responses so far, I think the answer is "no". The goal is to use a laptop with (multiple virtual windows) to show scrolling xterm output in a longer, narrower window than a short/wide laptop screen normally permits. Emulating teletype output, for those of you that still remember those ancient beasts. It seems like an obvious thing to do. Perhaps too difficult, since it would involve rewriting part of xterm. Turning the laptop screen sideways? (Rip, crunch, spark, poof) THAT didn't work ... Keith -- Keith Lofstrom kei...@keithl.com Voice (503)-520-1993 KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- "Your Ideas in Silicon" Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Scan ICs ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] two column xterm?
For monitoring logfiles I use multitail, - Gregg Solid IT Support & Hosting Since 1995: www.tocici.com Small Parts Design & Machining: www.berkholtz.net On Jun 10, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > My previous rant on screen width reminded me - are there any > programs that work like xterm but bring up two or more windows, > one scrolling into the other, like two-column mode in word > processors? This would be nice for working on long ascii > documents. > > Keith > > -- > Keith Lofstrom kei...@keithl.com Voice (503)-520-1993 > KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- "Your Ideas in Silicon" > Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Scan ICs > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] two column xterm?
not to be totally pedantic, but rotating your monitor is pretty easy these days (from a software POV). see xrandr(1). i had a 24" LCD rotated at my last work-desk and i could hold a ridiculously long terminal window in it. and i did. even though i use a huge font, it was still >100 lines long and i had room for another normal 25-liner underneath it (and some applets next to both of them, since i like my terminals in 80-char widths regardless of length). i think the hacks based on screen(1) are likely to be nifty but not functional in some way or another for the proposed workload. or really anything that TERM=dumb couldn't handle. On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:04, Rogan Creswick wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Keith Lofstrom wrote: >> >> No, I want a general purpose text terminal. The vim capability is >> OK, but ls -l, email, less, man pages, command line error output, >> and many other text apps can run on for pages. Yes, I can capture >> the session to a file and look at that in vim (or with less, in >> multiple windows), but it is a poor substitute, especially given that >> modern screens are not so tall and bunches of characters wide. >> > > I wonder if this could be done with screen -- could you run a screen > session in the "active" terminal, then view that session from another > terminal, and set it to display the scrollback content from the > "active" terminal? (some minor exploration hasn't confirmed that this > is possible... but it sure seems like it should work.) > > Screen can also log to a file, and that could be processed by a simple > tail / cat-like app to show all but the last n-lines, to correspond to > the other terminal's height. > > --Rogan > > > >> Keith >> >> -- >> Keith Lofstrom kei...@keithl.com Voice (503)-520-1993 >> KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- "Your Ideas in Silicon" >> Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Scan ICs >> ___ >> PLUG mailing list >> PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] two column xterm?
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > > No, I want a general purpose text terminal. The vim capability is > OK, but ls -l, email, less, man pages, command line error output, > and many other text apps can run on for pages. Yes, I can capture > the session to a file and look at that in vim (or with less, in > multiple windows), but it is a poor substitute, especially given that > modern screens are not so tall and bunches of characters wide. > I wonder if this could be done with screen -- could you run a screen session in the "active" terminal, then view that session from another terminal, and set it to display the scrollback content from the "active" terminal? (some minor exploration hasn't confirmed that this is possible... but it sure seems like it should work.) Screen can also log to a file, and that could be processed by a simple tail / cat-like app to show all but the last n-lines, to correspond to the other terminal's height. --Rogan > Keith > > -- > Keith Lofstrom kei...@keithl.com Voice (503)-520-1993 > KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- "Your Ideas in Silicon" > Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Scan ICs > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] two column xterm?
Keith Lofstrom wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 05:36:27PM -0700, Paul Mullen wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 01:36:19PM -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote: >> >>> My previous rant on screen width reminded me - are there any >>> programs that work like xterm but bring up two or more windows, >>> one scrolling into the other, like two-column mode in word >>> processors? This would be nice for working on long ascii >>> documents. >>> >> Split vim windows? Not as flexible as a terminal emulator, but fine >> for editing text (if vim is your thing). >> > > No, I want a general purpose text terminal. The vim capability is > OK, but ls -l, email, less, man pages, command line error output, > and many other text apps can run on for pages. Yes, I can capture > the session to a file and look at that in vim (or with less, in > multiple windows), but it is a poor substitute, especially given that > modern screens are not so tall and bunches of characters wide. > > Keith > > Have you investigated vimdiff? It compares similar files horizontally. Ken Stephens, CAD 2 CAM ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] two column xterm?
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 05:36:27PM -0700, Paul Mullen wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 01:36:19PM -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > > My previous rant on screen width reminded me - are there any > > programs that work like xterm but bring up two or more windows, > > one scrolling into the other, like two-column mode in word > > processors? This would be nice for working on long ascii > > documents. > > Split vim windows? Not as flexible as a terminal emulator, but fine > for editing text (if vim is your thing). No, I want a general purpose text terminal. The vim capability is OK, but ls -l, email, less, man pages, command line error output, and many other text apps can run on for pages. Yes, I can capture the session to a file and look at that in vim (or with less, in multiple windows), but it is a poor substitute, especially given that modern screens are not so tall and bunches of characters wide. Keith -- Keith Lofstrom kei...@keithl.com Voice (503)-520-1993 KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- "Your Ideas in Silicon" Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Scan ICs ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] two column xterm?
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 01:36:19PM -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > My previous rant on screen width reminded me - are there any > programs that work like xterm but bring up two or more windows, > one scrolling into the other, like two-column mode in word > processors? This would be nice for working on long ascii > documents. Split vim windows? Not as flexible as a terminal emulator, but fine for editing text (if vim is your thing). -- Paul ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] two column xterm?
My previous rant on screen width reminded me - are there any programs that work like xterm but bring up two or more windows, one scrolling into the other, like two-column mode in word processors? This would be nice for working on long ascii documents. Keith -- Keith Lofstrom kei...@keithl.com Voice (503)-520-1993 KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- "Your Ideas in Silicon" Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Scan ICs ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
