Re: [PLUG] 2nd Router Setup
Richard == Richard C Steffens rst...@comcast.net writes: Richard Time today permits working on this again. I'm endeavoring to Richard set up a WRT54G ver. 6 as a wireless access point. Using my Richard laptop, I have connected its wired Ethernet port to one of Richard the 4 ports on the back of the WRT54G and logged in to the Richard WRT54G's administration page. [...] Richard Am I missing something fundamental here? Yes, you forgot to change the network SSID to www.personaltelco.net, like good neighbors should! ;-) -- Russell Senior, President russ...@personaltelco.net ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 2nd Router Setup
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Richard C. Steffens rst...@comcast.net wrote: Neal wrote: Sorry but I'm out of time for now. Good luck with it. Me, too. Tomorrow's mostly tied up, but I'll try to fit in some more testing. Thanks for your help. -- Regards, Dick Steffens ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug Dick, In theory the network setup I would use would be the following. LAN side Netgear = 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.252 WAN side Linksys = 192.168.0.2 255.255.255.252 That creates a nice little P2P network between the 2 devices with a /30 subnet then the LAN side Linksys as Neal pointed out needs to be something different such as 192.168.1.x ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 2nd Router Setup
Richard == Richard C Steffens rst...@comcast.net writes: Richard Time today permits working on this again. I'm endeavoring to Richard set up a WRT54G ver. 6 as a wireless access point. Using my Richard laptop, I have connected its wired Ethernet port to one of Richard the 4 ports on the back of the WRT54G and logged in to the Richard WRT54G's administration page. One thing that you can do that's even easier that all this separate-network silliness, since you already have a gateway router (the netgear), just plug a cat5 from a LAN port on the netgear to a LAN (not WAN!) port on the linksys, and the wireless network will bridge onto the netgears LAN network. You might want/need to turn off the DHCP server on the linksys, and you might want to give your linksys a non-conflicting static IP on the netgears LAN network. Unless you need two separate networks. -- Russell Senior, President russ...@personaltelco.net ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 2nd Router Setup
Richard, I rounded up a WRT54G ver 8 for testing. Resetting the factory defaults does in fact worked without changing anything as its default LAN address is 192.168.1.x and my LAN is 192.168.0.x. Also continued to work Just Fine after upgrading the firmware to the current release for my hardware version, 8.00.8 build 001. On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 1:41 AM, Russell Senior russ...@personaltelco.net wrote: One thing that you can do that's even easier that all this separate-network silliness, since you already have a gateway router (the netgear), just plug a cat5 from a LAN port on the netgear to a LAN (not WAN!) port on the linksys, and the wireless network will bridge onto the netgears LAN network. You might want/need to turn off the DHCP server on the linksys, and you might want to give your linksys a non-conflicting static IP on the netgears LAN network. I wasn't going to bring this up but since Russell mentioned it ... ;) Both the LAN address and DHCP disable are in the same place on the Basic Setup page, but I'm sure you already knew that. This has the added benefit of possibly eliminating the switch the WRT54G is plugged into if you only have two other devices in that location. Speaking of complicated, the two network scenario assumes you don't want to access the ReplayTV DVR from the WRT54G network side of things. If you do that would require setting up a static route in the WRT54G. This is under Advanced Routing. Assigning a static IP to the ReplayTV DVR would make things easier, although a reserved DHCP assignment may suffice and allows doing all the fixed IP address assignments for your LAN in one place. I've had varying luck with different DHCP servers and clients over the years so it may or may not work (reliably), especially with the wireless link in the path. NealS ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 2nd Router Setup
Time today permits working on this again. I'm endeavoring to set up a WRT54G ver. 6 as a wireless access point. Using my laptop, I have connected its wired Ethernet port to one of the 4 ports on the back of the WRT54G and logged in to the WRT54G's administration page. On the Setup tab. The first section is for Internet Setup. Here, I have chosen to use a Static IP of 192.168.0.250, Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0, and a gateway of 192.168.0.1, which is the LAN IP address if my Netgear router. In the Optional Settings section I have given the WRT54G a Router Name of BsmtRtr. The next section is Network Setup. I've assigned the WRT54G the IP address of 192.168.0.251 and have set the Subnet Mask set to 255.255.255.0. When I try to save those settings I get an error message that says: The WAN IP address is same with the LAN IP address! Please check them again! Aren't 192.168.0.250 and 192.168.0.251 different? Am I missing something fundamental here? -- Regards, Dick Steffens ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 2nd Router Setup
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Richard C. Steffens rst...@comcast.net wrote: The next section is Network Setup. I've assigned the WRT54G the IP address of 192.168.0.251 and have set the Subnet Mask set to 255.255.255.0. When I try to save those settings I get an error message that says: The WAN IP address is same with the LAN IP address! Please check them again! Aren't 192.168.0.250 and 192.168.0.251 different? Am I missing something fundamental here? Actually, the WAN subnet and the LAN subnet are the same. You must use 192.168.1.x for the LAN if you're using 192.168.0.x for the WAN, or vice-versa. NealS ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 2nd Router Setup
Neal wrote: Actually, the WAN subnet and the LAN subnet are the same. So, I'm right. There is something fundamental I don't understand. You must use 192.168.1.x for the LAN if you're using 192.168.0.x for the WAN, or vice-versa. That worked, as far as finishing that part of the setup goes. But, the laptop doesn't see the Internet. Wiring is as follows: Cable from street -- Cable Modem -- Netgear Router -- Switch -- WRT54G Router -- Laptop The laptop can log in to the WRT54G using Firefox, but doesn't see the Internet -- trying to load the Google search page produces Firefox can't find the server at www.google.com. BTW, to restate the ultimate goal, I'm trying to eliminate a cable running across the basement floor with the following wiring: Cable from street -- Cable Modem -- Netgear Router -- Switch -- WRT54G Router -- Linksys WET11 Wireless Ethernet Bridge -- ReplayTV DVR So, I haven't gotten to the wireless part, yet. -- Regards, Dick Steffens ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 2nd Router Setup
That worked, as far as finishing that part of the setup goes. But, the laptop doesn't see the Internet. Wiring is as follows: Cable from street -- Cable Modem -- Netgear Router -- Switch -- WRT54G Router -- Laptop Is the last link wired or wireless? The laptop can log in to the WRT54G using Firefox, but doesn't see the Internet -- trying to load the Google search page produces Firefox can't find the server at www.google.com. Can you ping the Netgear router? Cable modem? 208.67.216.231 (google)? If all of the above succeed the problem is with your DNS configuration. NealS ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 2nd Router Setup
Neal wrote: Can you ping the Netgear router? Cable modem? 208.67.216.231 (google)? No. The only thing the laptop can talk to is the WRT54G. -- Regards, Dick Steffens ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 2nd Router Setup
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Richard C. Steffens rst...@comcast.net wrote: Neal wrote: Can you ping the Netgear router? Cable modem? 208.67.216.231 (google)? No. The only thing the laptop can talk to is the WRT54G. What does the WRT54G configuration page say the WAN IP address is? I would assume you're using DHCP for that. NealS ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 2nd Router Setup
Neal wrote: What does the WRT54G configuration page say the WAN IP address is? I set a static IP address of 192.168.0.250, a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0, and a gateway of 192.168.0.1. I would assume you're using DHCP for that. No. But when I tried changing to that I got an assigned IP from the Netgear router of 192.168.0.5. I still can't ping the Netgear router through the WRT54G. -- Regards, Dick Steffens ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 2nd Router Setup
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Richard C. Steffens rst...@comcast.net wrote: Neal wrote: What does the WRT54G configuration page say the WAN IP address is? I set a static IP address of 192.168.0.250, a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0, and a gateway of 192.168.0.1. I would assume you're using DHCP for that. No. But when I tried changing to that I got an assigned IP from the Netgear router of 192.168.0.5. I still can't ping the Netgear router through the WRT54G. Do you observe the network connection for the WRT54G blinking on the Netgear router when you're trying to ping it? What should be happening is the 54G uses NAT to translate your laptop ping source IP to 192.168.0.5 (or .250, whichever is configured), forwards the ping to the Netgear, which replies back to the 54G, which un-NATs it back to your laptop IP address and forwards it out to the laptop. If the pings causes the Netgear LAN port to blink then it's getting that far but not coming back, or not all the way back as you can't visually distinguish whether the blinking means the ping packet arrived and was replied to or not. I think this should all Just Work with default settings on the 54G other than needing a network different from the Netgear LAN, including DHCP for WAN address. Did you reset it to factory defaults just for fun? ;-) Sorry but I'm out of time for now. Good luck with it. NealS ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 2nd Router Setup
Neal wrote: Sorry but I'm out of time for now. Good luck with it. Me, too. Tomorrow's mostly tied up, but I'll try to fit in some more testing. Thanks for your help. -- Regards, Dick Steffens ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 2nd Router Setup
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:31 PM, m0gely m0g...@gmail.com wrote: drew wymore wrote: Dick, Flash with with DD WRT/Open WRT and you can put it in bridge mode so it'll just act as a range extender for the Netgear and you should be good to go. Extend the range of what? The Netgear he mentioned isn't wireless. Flash the WRT or not, but just disable DHCP and connect it to the Netgear via one of the LAN ports. Assign it an IP on the same subnet as the Netgear also. Not it's basically an access point. Then go get a WET54G bridge and connect that to the ReplayTV to bridge it to the WRT. -- m0gely ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug My bad I see the word router and immediately associate it with a wireless AP ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 2nd Router Setup
drew wymore wrote: On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Richard C. Steffens rst...@comcast.net wrote: ... Can I connect the WRT54G to the switch and have it go through the Netgear router? ... Flash with with DD WRT/Open WRT and you can put it in bridge mode so it'll just act as a range extender for the Netgear and you should be good to go. Thanks! I'll read up on that. -- Regards, Dick Steffens ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 2nd Router Setup
drew wymore wrote: On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Richard C. Steffens rst...@comcast.net wrote: I have had a Netgear RT-314 router connected to my Comcast cable modem for many years. It still works fine. I recently bought a used ReplayTV 4080 DVR. It uses an Ethernet connection to get TV program info. Currently there is an Ethernet cable running across the floor in the TV room. It connects the ReplayTV to a switch that is connected to the router. Besides being a tripping hazard, it is unsightly to my wife (well, me, too) so I'm considering getting bridge to use to wirelessly connect the ReplayTV. I understand that I need a wireless router, or I suppose a second bridge, to make this work. I have a Linksys WRT54G that I just got from my sister (she upgraded to a Mac, and has Mac network hardware to go with it). Can I connect the WRT54G to the switch and have it go through the Netgear router? If so, when I set it up, do I treat the WRT54G as a PC on the home network, and assign it an IP address from the Netgear's set? Anything else that I'm missing? I found a web site for setting up the WRT54G: http://www.columbia.edu/acis/networks/aptnet/linksys/index.html -- Regards, Dick Steffens ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug Dick, Flash with with DD WRT/Open WRT and you can put it in bridge mode so it'll just act as a range extender for the Netgear and you should be good to go. Drew- ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug Not all WRT54G upgrade well from what I have read. Be sure to note the software version you have and read on. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 2nd Router Setup
Not all WRT54G upgrade well from what I have read. Be sure to note the software version you have and read on. Hardware versions V5.0 through V8.2 (latest) only support a micro version due to FLASH/RAM reductions. Here's the somewhat hard to find supported routers link: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices I'm about to embark on a 3-router bridge/WDS effort with WRT54GLs so I can't say how it works on WRT54Gs with full FLASH and RAM size just yet, but I did have great success with DD-WRT setting up WDS using really cheap AirLink101+ AR670W hardware. It Just Worked. YMMV of course. :) If you want to go WDS instead of bridging the key is having the same radio chip(s) in all the routers. Good luck, NealS ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 2nd Router Setup
drew wymore wrote: Dick, Flash with with DD WRT/Open WRT and you can put it in bridge mode so it'll just act as a range extender for the Netgear and you should be good to go. Extend the range of what? The Netgear he mentioned isn't wireless. Flash the WRT or not, but just disable DHCP and connect it to the Netgear via one of the LAN ports. Assign it an IP on the same subnet as the Netgear also. Not it's basically an access point. Then go get a WET54G bridge and connect that to the ReplayTV to bridge it to the WRT. -- m0gely ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
