Re: [PLUG] Buzzing speakers

[Seth Alford]

Theory: you have a cron job running at :29 and :59. It's doing some sort of
activity that generates RFI. The old speakers, or perhaps the wires to the
speakers, act as antennae and pick up the signal. You never noticed it
before because traffic noise was always louder. Now that everyone is
staying home, there's no traffic noise. So now you hear it.

--Seth

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 10:23 PM Michael Barnes 
wrote:

> Not really Linux related, but very strange. I have a real nice set of Altec
> Lansing computer speakers hooked up to one of my Linux Mint machines. This
> is a three piece set with two desktop speakers and a large subwoofer on the
> floor. I've had these speakers for at least ten years and they have always
> worked and sounded good.  I hooked them up to this computer about a month
> ago. After a couple weeks, they started making a very loud low frequency
> beep/buzz every thirty minutes. It is about a one second burst. I turned
> them off with the on/off switch on the volume control, and the beep
> persisted. At exactly :29 and :59. I unplugged the audio input from the
> computer speaker jack and the beep continued. There is no kind of logic
> circuitry in this thing. Just an audio amplifier and related electronics.
> The only way to stop it is to unplug it. When plugged in it is like
> clockwork at exactly :29 and :59, regardless of whether it is connected to
> the computer or not. I hooked up another set of speakers to the computer
> and they do not do this. Sad, because these are a great sounding set of
> speakers.
>
> Anyone run into something weird like this?
>
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[PLUG] Buzzing speakers

[Michael Barnes]

Not really Linux related, but very strange. I have a real nice set of Altec
Lansing computer speakers hooked up to one of my Linux Mint machines. This
is a three piece set with two desktop speakers and a large subwoofer on the
floor. I've had these speakers for at least ten years and they have always
worked and sounded good.  I hooked them up to this computer about a month
ago. After a couple weeks, they started making a very loud low frequency
beep/buzz every thirty minutes. It is about a one second burst. I turned
them off with the on/off switch on the volume control, and the beep
persisted. At exactly :29 and :59. I unplugged the audio input from the
computer speaker jack and the beep continued. There is no kind of logic
circuitry in this thing. Just an audio amplifier and related electronics.
The only way to stop it is to unplug it. When plugged in it is like
clockwork at exactly :29 and :59, regardless of whether it is connected to
the computer or not. I hooked up another set of speakers to the computer
and they do not do this. Sad, because these are a great sounding set of
speakers.

Anyone run into something weird like this?

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Re: [PLUG] Feedback wanted: Virtual PLUG Events

[Chuck Hast]

That would be great for me, never was able to attend a meeting while I
lived up in Kalama/Kelso (first Kalama then Kelso) tried to many times,
but was either out on the road of busy in some other way. I would
certainly enjoy it.

Back when I worked for Ozone International, every Monday morning we
had a virtual conference. Every one checked in and someone gave a
presentation on something or other going on. People were able to ask
questions either during the presentation of at the end of it. It did appear
to work quite well. It was the only way to get all of the field people
together
with the folks on Bainbridge Island. I say go for it. We are a lot more tech
than they were.


On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:03 PM Bill Ensley  wrote:

> On 3/24/20 5:53 PM, Bill Ensley wrote:
> >> Hell, +1 from me, I may even be able to make a meeting for once :)
> >
> > Well I'd sure like to see you more Bill!
> >
> > Especially given that I see you around OSCON for printing. :-|
> >
> > Are you endorsing virtual PLUG or FreeConferenceCall.com specifically?
> >
> Virtual PLUG.
>
> Haven't used FreeConferenceCall.com.  Zoom is most common in my industry.
>
> I'd honestly be perfectly happy with something like GoToMeeting.com as
> well.
>
> Might be easier for folks that don't have cameras.
>
> I'd be happy to donate usage of our account, we have a 50 person account
> and absolutely zero outside sales happening right now.
>
> -Bill Ensley
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Re: [PLUG] OT -- Chromebook will/will not print

[Chuck Hast]

Thank you all, I will dive into it tomorrow.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 5:57 PM Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Mar 2020, Chuck Hast wrote:
>
> > Now just to figure out what needs to be changed. I use the cups drivers
> > for that printer on my Linux boxes with no issue.
>
> Chuck,
>
> Look in /etc/cups/ppd/ or the chromebook equivalent. That should have all
> your available printers. These are ASCII text configuration files.
> Somewhere
> in there you'll find various paper sizes; change A4 to Letter and see what
> happens (after backing up the unmodified file, of course.)
>
> Regards,
>
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Re: [PLUG] OSCON Cancellation Announcement

[John Jason Jordan]

On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 16:53:55 -0700
Michael Dexter  dijo:

>OSCON has been pretty important to PLUG. Here is there announcement:
>
>https://www.oreilly.com/conferences/from-laura-baldwin.html

What? But Dr Trump said we can all go back to work in just a couple
of weeks!
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Re: [PLUG] Feedback wanted: Virtual PLUG Events

[Bill Ensley]

On 3/24/20 5:53 PM, Bill Ensley wrote:
>> Hell, +1 from me, I may even be able to make a meeting for once :)
>
> Well I'd sure like to see you more Bill!
>
> Especially given that I see you around OSCON for printing. :-|
>
> Are you endorsing virtual PLUG or FreeConferenceCall.com specifically?
>
Virtual PLUG.

Haven't used FreeConferenceCall.com.  Zoom is most common in my industry.

I'd honestly be perfectly happy with something like GoToMeeting.com as well.

Might be easier for folks that don't have cameras.

I'd be happy to donate usage of our account, we have a 50 person account 
and absolutely zero outside sales happening right now.

-Bill Ensley
BearPrinting.com

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Re: [PLUG] Feedback wanted: Virtual PLUG Events

[John Jason Jordan]

On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 15:43:30 -0700
Michael Dexter  dijo:

>BUT: What does this mean to you as the audience? What elements such as
>Q&A do you need to have to make a live stream any different from a
>random YouTube video?

For 20 years I earned my living by teaching adult education classes, in
a traditional classroom. One of the things that made me successful was
input from the students. I recall when I first started teaching I might
explain something, then look up and see a classroom full of blank faces,
followed by questions. 'OK, that wasn't the right way to explain that,'
I would think, the teacher having learned a lesson. You may have
mastered a subject, but you have to teach it three or four times before
you can do a decent job of explaining it to someone else.

I can't imagine giving a talk successfully without real time feedback.
If my audience is confused, I need to hear about it on the spot. If you
want a successful virtual meeting your audience needs to have a way to
ask questions.

And I should say that I have never done that . My laptop has a camera,
and once I tested it to verify that it works, but I've never actually
attended a virtual meeting where I used it. Plus, there may be members
who don't have the equipment to participate.

I think it's a good idea, but you can't assume that everyone has the
tools and knows how to make them work. I see a need for some education
before virtual meetings will work well.
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Re: [PLUG] Feedback wanted: Virtual PLUG Events

[Michael Dexter]

On 3/24/20 5:53 PM, Bill Ensley wrote:

Hell, +1 from me, I may even be able to make a meeting for once :)


Well I'd sure like to see you more Bill!

Especially given that I see you around OSCON for printing. :-|

Are you endorsing virtual PLUG or FreeConferenceCall.com specifically?

How are they for the screen sharing aspect?

Thanks!

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Re: [PLUG] Feedback wanted: Virtual PLUG Events

[Bill Ensley]

Hell, +1 from me, I may even be able to make a meeting for once :)

-Bill Ensley
BearPrinting.com

On 3/24/2020 5:49 PM, Michael Barnes wrote:
> I like FreeConferenceCall.com. Easy to use, unlimited meeting time, up to
> 1,000 attendees. FREE.
>
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Re: [PLUG] OSCON Cancellation Announcement

[Smith, Cathy]

Yes, sad to say:
https://www.linuxfestnorthwest.org/conferences/2020

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Subject: Re: [PLUG] OSCON Cancellation Announcement

On 3/24/20 4:53 PM, Michael Dexter wrote:
> All,
> 
> OSCON has been pretty important to PLUG. Here is there announcement:
> 
> https://www.oreilly.com/conferences/from-laura-baldwin.html

I guess this is the year I'll make it to LinuxFest NW.  ...oh, wait... :-(

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Re: [PLUG] Feedback wanted: Virtual PLUG Events

[Michael Barnes]

I like FreeConferenceCall.com. Easy to use, unlimited meeting time, up to
1,000 attendees. FREE.

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Re: [PLUG] OSCON Cancellation Announcement

[Galen Seitz]

On 3/24/20 4:53 PM, Michael Dexter wrote:

All,

OSCON has been pretty important to PLUG. Here is there announcement:

https://www.oreilly.com/conferences/from-laura-baldwin.html


I guess this is the year I'll make it to LinuxFest NW.  ...oh, wait... :-(

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[PLUG] OSCON Cancellation Announcement

[Michael Dexter]

All,

OSCON has been pretty important to PLUG. Here is there announcement:

https://www.oreilly.com/conferences/from-laura-baldwin.html

Michael Dexter
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Re: [PLUG] Feedback wanted: Virtual PLUG Events

[Russell Senior]

IRC baby!

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 3:44 PM Michael Dexter  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> OSCON was permanently cancelled today and there is a very good chance
> that the face-to-face PLUG meetings will be cancelled for the coming
> months.
>
> What are your thoughts on virtual or substitute activities?
>
> On one hand, doing nothing is always easiest and I am a skeptic against
> "virtualized" conferences, especially if an organizer were to think they
> can charge their traditional rates to stream presenters in their pajamas
> in their kitchens.
>
> On the other hand, I have worked from home for 20+ years and think that
> everyone needs to expand their remote working/learning/teaching capacity
> to the point that schools have regular "learn from home" drills to go
> with the active shooter drills, leaving us all semi-prepared for
> pandemics and the like.
>
> I have reached out to a school district tech (I can think of another
> too!) to give a remote talk about the scramble to deliver remote learning.
>
> BUT: What does this mean to you as the audience? What elements such as
> Q&A do you need to have to make a live stream any different from a
> random YouTube video?
>
> When it comes down to the essentials, the undivided attention aspect of
> a face to face event is the key value. I have not once had to change a
> diaper or let the dog out during a PLUG talk. I've wandered as far as
> checking Twitter and occasionally go to the restroom but 95%+ of my
> attention is there. That has not been the case with recent virtualized
> events I have "attended".
>
> What say you?
>
> Stay safe,
>
> Michael Dexter
> PLUG Volunteer
>
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Re: [PLUG] Feedback wanted: Virtual PLUG Events

[Galen Seitz]

On 3/24/20 3:43 PM, Michael Dexter wrote:

Hello all,

OSCON was permanently cancelled today and there is a very good chance 
that the face-to-face PLUG meetings will be cancelled for the coming 
months.


Neither the OSCON web site nor their twitter feed mentions the 
cancellation.  How did you hear this?


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Re: [PLUG] OT -- Chromebook will/will not print

[Rich Shepard]

On Tue, 24 Mar 2020, Chuck Hast wrote:


Now just to figure out what needs to be changed. I use the cups drivers
for that printer on my Linux boxes with no issue.


Chuck,

Look in /etc/cups/ppd/ or the chromebook equivalent. That should have all
your available printers. These are ASCII text configuration files. Somewhere
in there you'll find various paper sizes; change A4 to Letter and see what
happens (after backing up the unmodified file, of course.)

Regards,

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Re: [PLUG] Feedback wanted: Virtual PLUG Events

[John Sechrest]

I have moved all my events to online. It has been working well for the last
two weeks.

I would love to see PDXLinux events end up being virtual.

Zoom has worked ok. Currently exploring videofacilitator.com as a
networking tool.

A slack channel has been helpful for some of the events.



On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 3:43 PM Michael Dexter  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> OSCON was permanently cancelled today and there is a very good chance
> that the face-to-face PLUG meetings will be cancelled for the coming
> months.
>
> What are your thoughts on virtual or substitute activities?
>
> On one hand, doing nothing is always easiest and I am a skeptic against
> "virtualized" conferences, especially if an organizer were to think they
> can charge their traditional rates to stream presenters in their pajamas
> in their kitchens.
>
> On the other hand, I have worked from home for 20+ years and think that
> everyone needs to expand their remote working/learning/teaching capacity
> to the point that schools have regular "learn from home" drills to go
> with the active shooter drills, leaving us all semi-prepared for
> pandemics and the like.
>
> I have reached out to a school district tech (I can think of another
> too!) to give a remote talk about the scramble to deliver remote learning.
>
> BUT: What does this mean to you as the audience? What elements such as
> Q&A do you need to have to make a live stream any different from a
> random YouTube video?
>
> When it comes down to the essentials, the undivided attention aspect of
> a face to face event is the key value. I have not once had to change a
> diaper or let the dog out during a PLUG talk. I've wandered as far as
> checking Twitter and occasionally go to the restroom but 95%+ of my
> attention is there. That has not been the case with recent virtualized
> events I have "attended".
>
> What say you?
>
> Stay safe,
>
> Michael Dexter
> PLUG Volunteer
>
> P.S. Wow. PLUG outlasted OSCON.
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[PLUG] Feedback wanted: Virtual PLUG Events

[Michael Dexter]

Hello all,

OSCON was permanently cancelled today and there is a very good chance 
that the face-to-face PLUG meetings will be cancelled for the coming months.


What are your thoughts on virtual or substitute activities?

On one hand, doing nothing is always easiest and I am a skeptic against 
"virtualized" conferences, especially if an organizer were to think they 
can charge their traditional rates to stream presenters in their pajamas 
in their kitchens.


On the other hand, I have worked from home for 20+ years and think that 
everyone needs to expand their remote working/learning/teaching capacity 
to the point that schools have regular "learn from home" drills to go 
with the active shooter drills, leaving us all semi-prepared for 
pandemics and the like.


I have reached out to a school district tech (I can think of another 
too!) to give a remote talk about the scramble to deliver remote learning.


BUT: What does this mean to you as the audience? What elements such as 
Q&A do you need to have to make a live stream any different from a 
random YouTube video?


When it comes down to the essentials, the undivided attention aspect of 
a face to face event is the key value. I have not once had to change a 
diaper or let the dog out during a PLUG talk. I've wandered as far as 
checking Twitter and occasionally go to the restroom but 95%+ of my 
attention is there. That has not been the case with recent virtualized 
events I have "attended".


What say you?

Stay safe,

Michael Dexter
PLUG Volunteer

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Re: [PLUG] OT -- Chromebook will/will not print

[Tomas Kuchta]

On my linux's it is under http://localhost:631/
-T

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 15:40 Tomas Kuchta 
wrote:

> Cups have config for things like default paper size, trays, duplex.
>
> Perhaps it is even service, like in Linux, you could connect to with
> browser on the Chromebook and change what you need.
>
> Tomas
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 14:15 Chuck Hast  wrote:
>
>> When I look at the Locale data is is all US... I am thinking the same
>> thing
>> that it is an issue with the driver, but the driver is a cups driver
>> (Chrome
>> books use cups I guess)
>>
>> Now just to figure out what needs to be changed. I use the cups drivers
>> for that printer on my Linux boxes with no issue.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 10:40 AM Rich Shepard 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, 24 Mar 2020, Chuck Hast wrote:
>> >
>> > > I select a email on her desktop machine and send it to print, it
>> prints
>> > > just fine. I go to her Chromebook and select the same email it is
>> sent to
>> > > the printer but it must be telling the printer to print to an A4 page,
>> > > which is not on the printer so it replies back, "out of paper" If I do
>> > the
>> > > control P and look at the advanced settings on the machine it shows
>> it is
>> > > set for "Letter". I tested a file she had on google drive, it printed
>> > just
>> > > fine. Then I tested "foo.com" On the desktop it printed out just
>> fine On
>> > > Chromebook it tries to send it as an A4 page. If I check the settings
>> it
>> > > shows LETTER. Not sure what to think. The printer is a Dell 3110CN a
>> big
>> > > battleship color laser printer. I am not sure what to think on this
>> one.
>> >
>> > Chuck,
>> >
>> > Looks like the issue is with the Chrombook printer driver, not the
>> printer.
>> > Can you find the driver and examine it, or replace it with a
>> known-to-work
>> > system such as CUPS?
>> >
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>> Ph 4:13 KJV
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Re: [PLUG] OT -- Chromebook will/will not print

[Tomas Kuchta]

Cups have config for things like default paper size, trays, duplex.

Perhaps it is even service, like in Linux, you could connect to with
browser on the Chromebook and change what you need.

Tomas

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 14:15 Chuck Hast  wrote:

> When I look at the Locale data is is all US... I am thinking the same thing
> that it is an issue with the driver, but the driver is a cups driver
> (Chrome
> books use cups I guess)
>
> Now just to figure out what needs to be changed. I use the cups drivers
> for that printer on my Linux boxes with no issue.
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 10:40 AM Rich Shepard 
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 24 Mar 2020, Chuck Hast wrote:
> >
> > > I select a email on her desktop machine and send it to print, it prints
> > > just fine. I go to her Chromebook and select the same email it is sent
> to
> > > the printer but it must be telling the printer to print to an A4 page,
> > > which is not on the printer so it replies back, "out of paper" If I do
> > the
> > > control P and look at the advanced settings on the machine it shows it
> is
> > > set for "Letter". I tested a file she had on google drive, it printed
> > just
> > > fine. Then I tested "foo.com" On the desktop it printed out just fine
> On
> > > Chromebook it tries to send it as an A4 page. If I check the settings
> it
> > > shows LETTER. Not sure what to think. The printer is a Dell 3110CN a
> big
> > > battleship color laser printer. I am not sure what to think on this
> one.
> >
> > Chuck,
> >
> > Looks like the issue is with the Chrombook printer driver, not the
> printer.
> > Can you find the driver and examine it, or replace it with a
> known-to-work
> > system such as CUPS?
> >
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Re: [PLUG] OT -- Chromebook will/will not print

[Chuck Hast]

When I look at the Locale data is is all US... I am thinking the same thing
that it is an issue with the driver, but the driver is a cups driver (Chrome
books use cups I guess)

Now just to figure out what needs to be changed. I use the cups drivers
for that printer on my Linux boxes with no issue.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 10:40 AM Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Mar 2020, Chuck Hast wrote:
>
> > I select a email on her desktop machine and send it to print, it prints
> > just fine. I go to her Chromebook and select the same email it is sent to
> > the printer but it must be telling the printer to print to an A4 page,
> > which is not on the printer so it replies back, "out of paper" If I do
> the
> > control P and look at the advanced settings on the machine it shows it is
> > set for "Letter". I tested a file she had on google drive, it printed
> just
> > fine. Then I tested "foo.com" On the desktop it printed out just fine On
> > Chromebook it tries to send it as an A4 page. If I check the settings it
> > shows LETTER. Not sure what to think. The printer is a Dell 3110CN a big
> > battleship color laser printer. I am not sure what to think on this one.
>
> Chuck,
>
> Looks like the issue is with the Chrombook printer driver, not the printer.
> Can you find the driver and examine it, or replace it with a known-to-work
> system such as CUPS?
>
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Re: [PLUG] OT -- Chromebook will/will not print

[Rich Shepard]

On Tue, 24 Mar 2020, Chuck Hast wrote:


I select a email on her desktop machine and send it to print, it prints
just fine. I go to her Chromebook and select the same email it is sent to
the printer but it must be telling the printer to print to an A4 page,
which is not on the printer so it replies back, "out of paper" If I do the
control P and look at the advanced settings on the machine it shows it is
set for "Letter". I tested a file she had on google drive, it printed just
fine. Then I tested "foo.com" On the desktop it printed out just fine On
Chromebook it tries to send it as an A4 page. If I check the settings it
shows LETTER. Not sure what to think. The printer is a Dell 3110CN a big
battleship color laser printer. I am not sure what to think on this one.


Chuck,

Looks like the issue is with the Chrombook printer driver, not the printer.
Can you find the driver and examine it, or replace it with a known-to-work
system such as CUPS?

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] OT -- Chromebook will/will not print

[Tomas Kuchta]

Could this be caused by a localle or location setup on the Chromebook?

I do not have Chromebook, but can imagine someone deciding that English or
time zone selects all sorts of things, including metric paper size. If this
theory is valid US-english and/or US timezone could make the difference.

This is just a hunch on my side.
Tomas



On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 07:56 Chuck Hast  wrote:

> Folks, I reviewed things that paper size should have been A4 vice A1...
> I select a email on her desktop machine and send it to print, it prints
> just fine.
> I go to her Chromebook and select the same email it is sent to the
> printer but it must be telling the printer to print to an A4 page, which
> is not on the printer so it replies back, "out of paper"
> If I do the control P and look at the advanced settings on the machine
> it shows it is set for "Letter".
> I tested a file she had on google drive, it printed just fine.
> Then I tested "foo.com"
> On the desktop it printed out just fine
> On Chromebook it tries to send it as an A4 page.
> If I check the settings it shows LETTER.
> Not sure what to think.
> The printer is a Dell 3110CN a big battleship color laser printer.
> I am not sure what to think on this one.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 10:36 AM Chuck Hast  wrote:
>
> > Thank you guys, I am going to do some more testing based on what you all
> > have said. I know it all goes through Chrome browser, here is what I have
> > seen. A document on her machine that is in standard Letter format, will
> > print
> > just fine, a document pulled from her Google drive  will print just fine.
> > It is only
> > when she prints items from Gmail that this comes up.
> >
> > I have printed from her desk top machine (running Ubuntu Mate 18.04) with
> > no issues, but will go back and try it again and see is something has
> been
> > changed since I last did it.
> >
> > Right now I am trying to sort out getting medical lab gear from Kansas
> > City MO
> > to Albuquerque NM. The pick up county is under lockdown so I cannot go
> into
> > the county. My boss cannot bring it out because he will have to
> > quarantine  prior
> > to re-entry... Such is life under Covid 19...
> >
> > I will test all of this out and see what results I get.
> >
> > Thank you all and above all Be Safe...
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 11:22 AM Rich Shepard 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 22 Mar 2020, Ben Koenig wrote:
> >>
> >> >> What tool does the chrombook use to view gmail?
> >> >>
> >> > Chrome. Everything on a chromebook goes through the google web
> browser.
> >>
> >> Oy. I didn't realize this.
> >>
> >> Thanks, Ben,
> >>
> >> Rich
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> >
> > --
> >
> > Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
> > I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
> > Ph 4:13 KJV
> > Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> > Fil 4:13 RVR1960
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
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> Ph 4:13 KJV
> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
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Re: [PLUG] certificates, URLs, IP addresses

[Aaron Burt]

On 2020-03-22 20:53, Keith Lofstrom wrote:

MY FIRST QUESTION IS:  can multiple domains and multiple
SSL certificates share one IP address?  I can rent more
IP addresses, but I hope to avoid complication and cost.


Yes! Folks fixed that problem a while ago.  Browsers now tell the 
webserver which domain it's trying to access, so the webserver can pick 
the right certificate.  Also, you can add an arbitrary number of 
hostnames ("server alternative names") to one SSL certificate, but 
there's no point in doing that when you can just have a cert for each 
domain.



NEXT QUESTION:  what is a good ten page summary of how to
set up and maintain SSL certificates in the simplest way?


Info, scripts to automate the process and FREE SSL CERTS here: 
https://letsencrypt.org
The topic is definitely worth more discussion here, but it's a good 
starting place.



Ditto for DKIM, and configuring postfix for both.


Ditto, indeed.  SSL for client connections to Postfix can be handled 
with a LetsEncrypt cert.


DKIM is well described here: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DomainKeys_Identified_Mail
In sum, you add Opendkim to Postfix, which adds a crypto signature to 
each outgoing mail.  At the same time, you add a public DNS entry with a 
key that can be used to check that crypto signature.


There's lots of great how-to articles out there for whatever distro 
you're running, but it's fun to discuss here.



- - - - - - - - - - background - - - - - - - - - - - -

Over the years, I've accumulated many domains and URLs
on three web servers and multiple companies.  I've spent
a few days simplifying and debugging all that.


Only a few days?  That's  lot of work!


After transferring dirvish to a new maintainer, I've
consolidated everything else onto one offsite virtual
server with one IP address.  14 domain names point at
that IP address, all with the same domain registrar.


Nice easy setup.


About half of the domains send email.  For example, the
wiki websites notify page authors that their page has
been modified.

Without SSL certificates, some of the major email services
(like gmail) automatically route my outbound emails to user
spam folders.  Not helpful.

I don't really understand SSL certificates, or DKIM, but
those can establish the bona fides of my mail server with
the big services.  Both my name registrar and my virtual
server hosting provider offer free certs ... I think.


I got lazy and set up SendGrid as my outgoing email provider.  I think 
it even handles DKIM for me.



If I need more information, I can websearch the buzzwords
in the summaries, or pester the rest of you.  The better
the summaries, the less the pestering.


Cheerful communication is what this list does well.
It's funny, I think the old basic how-to docs are eroding as systems 
stuff gets more and more pre-canned and ready-to-eat.


Also folks, check in on your extroverts, they're hurting right now.

Regards,
  Aaron
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Re: [PLUG] OT -- Chromebook will/will not print

[Chuck Hast]

Folks, I reviewed things that paper size should have been A4 vice A1...
I select a email on her desktop machine and send it to print, it prints
just fine.
I go to her Chromebook and select the same email it is sent to the
printer but it must be telling the printer to print to an A4 page, which
is not on the printer so it replies back, "out of paper"
If I do the control P and look at the advanced settings on the machine
it shows it is set for "Letter".
I tested a file she had on google drive, it printed just fine.
Then I tested "foo.com"
On the desktop it printed out just fine
On Chromebook it tries to send it as an A4 page.
If I check the settings it shows LETTER.
Not sure what to think.
The printer is a Dell 3110CN a big battleship color laser printer.
I am not sure what to think on this one.


On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 10:36 AM Chuck Hast  wrote:

> Thank you guys, I am going to do some more testing based on what you all
> have said. I know it all goes through Chrome browser, here is what I have
> seen. A document on her machine that is in standard Letter format, will
> print
> just fine, a document pulled from her Google drive  will print just fine.
> It is only
> when she prints items from Gmail that this comes up.
>
> I have printed from her desk top machine (running Ubuntu Mate 18.04) with
> no issues, but will go back and try it again and see is something has been
> changed since I last did it.
>
> Right now I am trying to sort out getting medical lab gear from Kansas
> City MO
> to Albuquerque NM. The pick up county is under lockdown so I cannot go into
> the county. My boss cannot bring it out because he will have to
> quarantine  prior
> to re-entry... Such is life under Covid 19...
>
> I will test all of this out and see what results I get.
>
> Thank you all and above all Be Safe...
>
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 11:22 AM Rich Shepard 
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 22 Mar 2020, Ben Koenig wrote:
>>
>> >> What tool does the chrombook use to view gmail?
>> >>
>> > Chrome. Everything on a chromebook goes through the google web browser.
>>
>> Oy. I didn't realize this.
>>
>> Thanks, Ben,
>>
>> Rich
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>
>
> --
>
> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
> Ph 4:13 KJV
> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> Fil 4:13 RVR1960
>
>

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Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
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