Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Mate Update Weirdness
On 03/01/2018 02:11 PM, Bruce Kilpatrick wrote: I replied earlier to this post and it went to Dick's email instead of the list. I've noticed that, too, over the past few weeks. I can't say how long ago, but I used to be able to click reply, and the reply would go to the list. Now I have to click reply list (in Thunderbird). I don't know if that's a change in Thunderbird, or something else, but I've taken to always using reply list now. -- Regards, Dick Steffens ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Mate Update Weirdness
I replied earlier to this post and it went to Dick's email instead of the list. Reposting for your comments. Showing up a little late to the conversation, I found this: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2017/10/virtualbox-reached-5-2-major-release-how-to-install/ Bruce > On 02/27/2018 04:30 PM, Dick Steffens wrote: I'm running Ubuntu MATE 16.04. The Software Updater showed up this afternoon. When I try to run it I get an error message: Failed to download repository information. Check your Internet connection. When I "Try Again" it repeats. When I click "OK" I get a window that starts out with: Some software couldn't be checked for updates. And then it gives me a long list. When I click "Install Now" I get the Authenticate window, into which I type my password. When I click "Authenticate" I get another window that says: Requires installation of untrusted packages This requires installing packages from unauthenticated sources. I'm given the option of "Settings..." or "OK". When I click on "Settings..." I'm given a window with all the settings for Software Updater, but no hint of any that need adjusting. I click "OK" and I see a window that starts with: Updated software is available for this computer. Do you want to install it now? The computer also needs to restart to finishing previous updates. The long list of software to be updated is displayed under that. When I click "Install Now" it loops back to: Requires installation of untrusted packages This requires installing packages from unauthenticated sources. Since one of the messages told me the computer needed to be restarted to finish previous updates, I did that. And before starting anything else, like Thunderbird, I ran Software Updater. It went through the same series of windows, but when I clicked on "Install" this time, the window exited without doing anything that I could see. I searched for what log to look at. The results indicated I should look in /var/log/apt. The last entries in history.log and term.log were on 2018-02-24 at 06:52:42. Is there another log I should look in to see what's going on with Software Updater? Also, has anyone else seen this problem? Is there a different tree I should be barking up? Thanks. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Mate Update Weirdness
The downloads page for virtualbox has 2 different install methods. 1) Manually by downloading a single .deb file ( this uses dpkg, the debian package manager) 2) apt integration, as a third party repo. Running 'apt-get install' will essentially download and verify a package using apt, then install the package using the native package manager. ( in this case dpkg ) The first option means you are installing the package outside of apt (apt is a layer on top of your package manager that handles remote repositories). Since you have already cleared the cache, it is possible that the Oracle provided deb package is conflicting with the version available in the default repositories. You can look it up at packages.ubuntu.com. The second option is always ideal because it allows apt to prioritize packages for the purposes of dependency resolution, and gpg verification. If you installed the .deb manually in the first place, apt is not going to be able to handle it, though in some situations it may try. This could explain why some people report that the system updates tool fails, while synaptic does not. - Synaptic is a full featured application that exposes the entire repository and gives the user control over what does and does not get installed. It honestly has no interest in the idea of updates. It sees packages installed, and lists packages available, and waits for you to decide if something needs to be installed/removed/upgraded. - Update Manager is barely an applet. It's sole purpose is to update every single deb package on your system in one big download cycle. All or nothing. The intention is that it will periodically run "apt-get update" in the background, silently. It will do this repeatedly throughout the day, and every time it finishes apt-get update, it looks at the result and says "are the packages I have installed the same version as the packages in the repo?" - If yes, it gives you that cute little icon "You are all up to date!" - If no, it prompts the user to download and install updates. - If it failed to update the cache... such as the errors you have encountered, it panics and does dumb things. See here: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=virtualbox&; searchon=names&suite=xenial§ion=all 'virtualbox' is already a package in the repo, but you manually installed a .deb, with the same name but completely different version and checksum? Apt probably has no idea what to do with your virtualbox ( and maybe google earth ) packages, because they just magically appeared on the system without so much as a how d'ya do. What you will want to do is remove the virtualbox package you have installed, and follow the instructions linked earlier: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads Look for the section "Debian-based Linux Distributions". There they provide instructions to add the repository so that apt is aware of it, and can override the Canonical-maintained version. If you follow the steps to add the Oracle repo, then apt can give priority to the oracle version, and also allow updates through Update Manager. On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Nat Taylor wrote: > sometimes a > sudo apt-get -f install > helps > (not sure if you can just use apt, like: > sudo apt -f install > ) > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 11:43 AM, Rich Shepard > wrote: > > > On Wed, 28 Feb 2018, Rich Shepard wrote: > > > > Yes, it's not called google-earth pro. Also, google-earth does not > change > >> > > > > Oops! That should be 'now' not 'not.' > > > > > > Rich > > ___ > > PLUG mailing list > > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Mate Update Weirdness
sometimes a sudo apt-get -f install helps (not sure if you can just use apt, like: sudo apt -f install ) On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 11:43 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Wed, 28 Feb 2018, Rich Shepard wrote: > > Yes, it's not called google-earth pro. Also, google-earth does not change >> > > Oops! That should be 'now' not 'not.' > > > Rich > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Mate Update Weirdness
On Wed, 28 Feb 2018, Rich Shepard wrote: Yes, it's not called google-earth pro. Also, google-earth does not change Oops! That should be 'now' not 'not.' Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Mate Update Weirdness
On Wed, 28 Feb 2018, Rigel Hope wrote: For GE, it looks like the Desktop version is "Pro" now, and the standard version is a chrome app. For the Pro download there is a new ToS agreement dated Jan 31 of this year. That might be part of your issue? Yes, it's not called google-earth pro. Also, google-earth does not change the visible version number when they upgrade, only internally. They're all called google-earth-stable_current_.deb. This makes any md5 check of the download fail if the md5sum has not also been updated. On Slackware I've learned to ignore the md5 check because it's always out of date. John, unless you're wedded to virtualbox you might want to look at qemu instead. I learned the latter is less difficult to figure out. Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Mate Update Weirdness
per the VB website (https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads), see "What to do when experiencing *The following signatures were invalid*..." I would say you might want to reinstall the repo, apt clean, and then apt update again, but some years back I wound up in apt-get hell when dealing with VB according to their instructions. It prompted me to look at KVM and eventually containerization, actually, but i digress. It does appear to me that theyre separate errors of the same type with both VB and GE. For GE, it looks like the Desktop version is "Pro" now, and the standard version is a chrome app. For the Pro download there is a new ToS agreement dated Jan 31 of this year. That might be part of your issue? On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 10:23 AM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 21:50:26 -0800 > Dick Steffens dijo: > > >> I have also been having issues with Update Manager lately, similar to > >> what Dick reports, including failing to find the internet. Because of > >> the problems, which I assume are bugs, I don't even try Update > >> Manager anymore. When I want to do an update I launch Synaptic, > >> which I find more reliable. > > >In that case are you updating specific packages? I've depended on > >Update Manager to know what needs updating. Is there some tool in > >Synaptic to check for what needs updating? > > Once in a while I need a different (newer or older) version of a > program that is already installed, but that happens very seldom. Mostly > I need a general update, which I do once a month just before leaving > for the Clinic. I do it this way because the updates almost always > require a reboot, and I always shut down when traveling, so if I'm > going to reboot anyway it's a perfect time to do the updates. Plus, it > makes a regular schedule so updates don't get forgotten. > > As for Synaptic, in the left column there is a button labeled Status. > Click on it and it will display packages in groups, like All, > Installed, Upgradable, etc. At the top there is another button labeled > Mark All Upgrades. > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Mate Update Weirdness
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 21:50:26 -0800 Dick Steffens dijo: >> I have also been having issues with Update Manager lately, similar to >> what Dick reports, including failing to find the internet. Because of >> the problems, which I assume are bugs, I don't even try Update >> Manager anymore. When I want to do an update I launch Synaptic, >> which I find more reliable. >In that case are you updating specific packages? I've depended on >Update Manager to know what needs updating. Is there some tool in >Synaptic to check for what needs updating? Once in a while I need a different (newer or older) version of a program that is already installed, but that happens very seldom. Mostly I need a general update, which I do once a month just before leaving for the Clinic. I do it this way because the updates almost always require a reboot, and I always shut down when traveling, so if I'm going to reboot anyway it's a perfect time to do the updates. Plus, it makes a regular schedule so updates don't get forgotten. As for Synaptic, in the left column there is a button labeled Status. Click on it and it will display packages in groups, like All, Installed, Upgradable, etc. At the top there is another button labeled Mark All Upgrades. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Mate Update Weirdness
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 22:02:38 -0800 Dick Steffens dijo: >Thanks for the apt lesson. +1! That was very informative. Now I wonder if that might be why I have better luck with Synaptic than with Update Manager. Maybe Synaptic refreshes the cache when being launched and Update Manager does not? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Mate Update Weirdness
On 02/27/2018 10:42 PM, Ben Koenig wrote: Since we don't know which file is the problem, we need to get rid of all of them. There is no harm in keeping them just in case, so create a clean folder in your home dir, and move everything you see in /var/cache/apt/ to that folder. Make sure you leave the 'apt' folder there, because it probably won't recreate it. But based on the errors you provided, it looks like its failing on a very specific package. It seems unusually upset about virtualbox. Clear out /var/cache/apt since that may be the problem, and if it fails after then we may need to take a closer look at your install of virtualbox. I created a copy of /var/cache/apt in my home directory and then deleted the contents of /var/cache/apt. I ran sudo apt-get update and got the same results as before, the two offenders being virtualbox and google earth. I finally recall that in order to have USB support in virtualbox I had to use the one from Oracle. I've been getting a notice that a new version is available, but I haven't done anything about it yet. To do the initial install I used virtualbox-5.1_5.1.22-115126~Ubuntu~xenial_amd64.deb. Does that put itself into apt? Do I need to do something so apt doesn't see it anymore? I tried sudo apt-mark hold virtualbox. That did what it said it would do, but didn't affect the result of sudo apt-get update. -- Regards, Dick Steffens ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Mate Update Weirdness
Since we don't know which file is the problem, we need to get rid of all of them. There is no harm in keeping them just in case, so create a clean folder in your home dir, and move everything you see in /var/cache/apt/ to that folder. Make sure you leave the 'apt' folder there, because it probably won't recreate it. But based on the errors you provided, it looks like its failing on a very specific package. It seems unusually upset about virtualbox. Clear out /var/cache/apt since that may be the problem, and if it fails after then we may need to take a closer look at your install of virtualbox. On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 10:02 PM, Dick Steffens wrote: > On 02/27/2018 09:33 PM, Ben Koenig wrote: > >> This is a common problem that can occur with distributions that use apt >> for >> dependency resolution. The first step is to verify that you have a >> reliable >> connection to the internet. >> >> Once you know that you are able to download files ( in particular large >> files, and groups of files in a batch ) then the issue is with package >> cache maintained locally on your system. >> > > My work has me downloading multi-MB audio files and I successfully did one > today, so I think my Internet connection is working. > > Apt-get runs in 2 stages: >> - update - Download summary of all packages available in the repository >> - do something with this information, upgrade/install/remove >> >> >> What happens is that the cache apt uses gets corrupted for various >> reasons, >> but apt is too stupid to realize that something has gone horribly wrong. >> The end result is that apt is attempting to find and download packages >> that >> do not actually exist. In some cases it can lose track of gpg keys, or to >> be honest the resulting error you see can be anything. dpkg and apt >> require >> "perfection" in order to function, any little error will cause them to >> scream like the system is in mortal danger. >> >> >> When the software updater is looping and refusing to allow updates, you >> probably just need to clear the cache files (delete all of them). >> > > Would those be /var/cache/apt/ pkgcache.bin, srcpkgcache.bin, and all of > the archives? Should I copy them somewhere first? > > Then run >> 'sudo apt-get update'. This will be equivalent to running the updater for >> the first time. It will redownload all files, and IF it fails at that >> point, then either your installation is broken, or the server is having >> difficulty serving the files you have just requested. >> >> This was a common problem at Free Geek for several of the ubuntu derived >> distros they used, but I don't know how much of this applies to 15.04, and >> I don't know where newer versions of ubuntu put the apt cache files. >> > > Thanks for the apt lesson. > > -- > Regards, > > Dick Steffens > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Mate Update Weirdness
On 02/27/2018 09:33 PM, Ben Koenig wrote: This is a common problem that can occur with distributions that use apt for dependency resolution. The first step is to verify that you have a reliable connection to the internet. Once you know that you are able to download files ( in particular large files, and groups of files in a batch ) then the issue is with package cache maintained locally on your system. My work has me downloading multi-MB audio files and I successfully did one today, so I think my Internet connection is working. Apt-get runs in 2 stages: - update - Download summary of all packages available in the repository - do something with this information, upgrade/install/remove What happens is that the cache apt uses gets corrupted for various reasons, but apt is too stupid to realize that something has gone horribly wrong. The end result is that apt is attempting to find and download packages that do not actually exist. In some cases it can lose track of gpg keys, or to be honest the resulting error you see can be anything. dpkg and apt require "perfection" in order to function, any little error will cause them to scream like the system is in mortal danger. When the software updater is looping and refusing to allow updates, you probably just need to clear the cache files (delete all of them). Would those be /var/cache/apt/ pkgcache.bin, srcpkgcache.bin, and all of the archives? Should I copy them somewhere first? Then run 'sudo apt-get update'. This will be equivalent to running the updater for the first time. It will redownload all files, and IF it fails at that point, then either your installation is broken, or the server is having difficulty serving the files you have just requested. This was a common problem at Free Geek for several of the ubuntu derived distros they used, but I don't know how much of this applies to 15.04, and I don't know where newer versions of ubuntu put the apt cache files. Thanks for the apt lesson. -- Regards, Dick Steffens ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Mate Update Weirdness
On 02/27/2018 06:47 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 17:48:07 -0800 Rigel Hope dijo: Im sorry i dont have anything more constructive than "have you tried a command line apt update followed by upgrade?” to offer. I love the GUI, but when it goes awry I switch to the command line if I can. Instead of mysteriously evaporating from the screen, the command line is better at giving real error messages. I have also been having issues with Update Manager lately, similar to what Dick reports, including failing to find the internet. Because of the problems, which I assume are bugs, I don't even try Update Manager anymore. When I want to do an update I launch Synaptic, which I find more reliable. In that case are you updating specific packages? I've depended on Update Manager to know what needs updating. Is there some tool in Synaptic to check for what needs updating? -- Regards, Dick Steffens ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Mate Update Weirdness
This is a common problem that can occur with distributions that use apt for dependency resolution. The first step is to verify that you have a reliable connection to the internet. Once you know that you are able to download files ( in particular large files, and groups of files in a batch ) then the issue is with package cache maintained locally on your system. Apt-get runs in 2 stages: - update - Download summary of all packages available in the repository - do something with this information, upgrade/install/remove What happens is that the cache apt uses gets corrupted for various reasons, but apt is too stupid to realize that something has gone horribly wrong. The end result is that apt is attempting to find and download packages that do not actually exist. In some cases it can lose track of gpg keys, or to be honest the resulting error you see can be anything. dpkg and apt require "perfection" in order to function, any little error will cause them to scream like the system is in mortal danger. When the software updater is looping and refusing to allow updates, you probably just need to clear the cache files (delete all of them). Then run 'sudo apt-get update'. This will be equivalent to running the updater for the first time. It will redownload all files, and IF it fails at that point, then either your installation is broken, or the server is having difficulty serving the files you have just requested. This was a common problem at Free Geek for several of the ubuntu derived distros they used, but I don't know how much of this applies to 15.04, and I don't know where newer versions of ubuntu put the apt cache files. On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 6:47 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 17:48:07 -0800 > Rigel Hope dijo: > > >Im sorry i dont have anything more constructive than "have you tried a > >command line apt update followed by upgrade?” to offer. > > I love the GUI, but when it goes awry I switch to the command line if I > can. Instead of mysteriously evaporating from the screen, the command > line is better at giving real error messages. > > I have also been having issues with Update Manager lately, similar to > what Dick reports, including failing to find the internet. Because of > the problems, which I assume are bugs, I don't even try Update Manager > anymore. When I want to do an update I launch Synaptic, which I find > more reliable. > > I have two computers and get these same results with both - Xubuntu > 14.04.5 and Xubuntu 17.10.1. > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Mate Update Weirdness
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 17:48:07 -0800 Rigel Hope dijo: >Im sorry i dont have anything more constructive than "have you tried a >command line apt update followed by upgrade?” to offer. I love the GUI, but when it goes awry I switch to the command line if I can. Instead of mysteriously evaporating from the screen, the command line is better at giving real error messages. I have also been having issues with Update Manager lately, similar to what Dick reports, including failing to find the internet. Because of the problems, which I assume are bugs, I don't even try Update Manager anymore. When I want to do an update I launch Synaptic, which I find more reliable. I have two computers and get these same results with both - Xubuntu 14.04.5 and Xubuntu 17.10.1. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Mate Update Weirdness
Im sorry i dont have anything more constructive than "have you tried a command line apt update followed by upgrade?” to offer. I know that doesn't help you much in the way of diagnosis. On Feb 27, 2018 5:36 PM, "Dick Steffens" wrote: > On 02/27/2018 05:18 PM, Rigel Hope wrote: > >> By way of actually trying to help out, I would check the apt and dpkg logs >> (in /var/log) to try and make sense of it first. Unless you've done that >> and have an impression already, in which case I'd invite you to share. >> Maybe in a pastebin? >> > > As you noted in a follow up email, I did look at apt/history.log, but the > last date was 2018-02-24. > > Just now looking at dpkg.log. It, too, has a last entry on 2018-02-24. > > > > Maybe related lines from syslog, but they don't tell _me_ anything useful. > > Feb 27 16:16:33 ENU-2 AptDaemon: INFO: Quitting due to inactivity > Feb 27 16:16:33 ENU-2 AptDaemon: INFO: Quitting was requested > Feb 27 16:16:33 ENU-2 org.debian.apt[838]: 16:16:33 AptDaemon [INFO]: > Quitting due to inactivity > Feb 27 16:16:33 ENU-2 org.debian.apt[838]: 16:16:33 AptDaemon [INFO]: > Quitting was requested > Feb 27 16:17:01 ENU-2 CRON[7257]: (root) CMD ( cd / && run-parts > --report /etc/cron.hourly) > Feb 27 16:19:02 ENU-2 systemd[1]: Starting Cleanup of Temporary > Directories... > Feb 27 16:19:02 ENU-2 systemd-tmpfiles[7290]: > [/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/var.conf:14] Duplicate line for path "/var/log", > ignoring. > Feb 27 16:19:02 ENU-2 systemd[1]: Started Cleanup of Temporary Directories. > > -- > Regards, > > Dick Steffens > > > ___ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Mate Update Weirdness
On 02/27/2018 05:18 PM, Rigel Hope wrote: By way of actually trying to help out, I would check the apt and dpkg logs (in /var/log) to try and make sense of it first. Unless you've done that and have an impression already, in which case I'd invite you to share. Maybe in a pastebin? As you noted in a follow up email, I did look at apt/history.log, but the last date was 2018-02-24. Just now looking at dpkg.log. It, too, has a last entry on 2018-02-24. Maybe related lines from syslog, but they don't tell _me_ anything useful. Feb 27 16:16:33 ENU-2 AptDaemon: INFO: Quitting due to inactivity Feb 27 16:16:33 ENU-2 AptDaemon: INFO: Quitting was requested Feb 27 16:16:33 ENU-2 org.debian.apt[838]: 16:16:33 AptDaemon [INFO]: Quitting due to inactivity Feb 27 16:16:33 ENU-2 org.debian.apt[838]: 16:16:33 AptDaemon [INFO]: Quitting was requested Feb 27 16:17:01 ENU-2 CRON[7257]: (root) CMD ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly) Feb 27 16:19:02 ENU-2 systemd[1]: Starting Cleanup of Temporary Directories... Feb 27 16:19:02 ENU-2 systemd-tmpfiles[7290]: [/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/var.conf:14] Duplicate line for path "/var/log", ignoring. Feb 27 16:19:02 ENU-2 systemd[1]: Started Cleanup of Temporary Directories. -- Regards, Dick Steffens ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Mate Update Weirdness
Sorry, I somehow missed that you already checked apt logs. On Feb 27, 2018 5:18 PM, "Rigel Hope" wrote: By way of actually trying to help out, I would check the apt and dpkg logs (in /var/log) to try and make sense of it first. Unless you've done that and have an impression already, in which case I'd invite you to share. Maybe in a pastebin? Less helpfully, when mint was the only source for the MATE and Cinnamon packages, I found it a lot more useful. Now that those are available all over, i'm back to Debian or Ubuntu. On Feb 27, 2018 4:31 PM, "Dick Steffens" wrote: I'm running Ubuntu MATE 16.04. The Software Updater showed up this afternoon. When I try to run it I get an error message: Failed to download repository information. Check your Internet connection. When I "Try Again" it repeats. When I click "OK" I get a window that starts out with: Some software couldn't be checked for updates. And then it gives me a long list. When I click "Install Now" I get the Authenticate window, into which I type my password. When I click "Authenticate" I get another window that says: Requires installation of untrusted packages This requires installing packages from unauthenticated sources. I'm given the option of "Settings..." or "OK". When I click on "Settings..." I'm given a window with all the settings for Software Updater, but no hint of any that need adjusting. I click "OK" and I see a window that starts with: Updated software is available for this computer. Do you want to install it now? The computer also needs to restart to finishing previous updates. The long list of software to be updated is displayed under that. When I click "Install Now" it loops back to: Requires installation of untrusted packages This requires installing packages from unauthenticated sources. Since one of the messages told me the computer needed to be restarted to finish previous updates, I did that. And before starting anything else, like Thunderbird, I ran Software Updater. It went through the same series of windows, but when I clicked on "Install" this time, the window exited without doing anything that I could see. I searched for what log to look at. The results indicated I should look in /var/log/apt. The last entries in history.log and term.log were on 2018-02-24 at 06:52:42. Is there another log I should look in to see what's going on with Software Updater? Also, has anyone else seen this problem? Is there a different tree I should be barking up? Thanks. -- Regards, Dick Steffens ___ PLUG-talk mailing list plug-t...@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-talk -- Regards, Dick Steffens ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu Mate Update Weirdness
By way of actually trying to help out, I would check the apt and dpkg logs (in /var/log) to try and make sense of it first. Unless you've done that and have an impression already, in which case I'd invite you to share. Maybe in a pastebin? Less helpfully, when mint was the only source for the MATE and Cinnamon packages, I found it a lot more useful. Now that those are available all over, i'm back to Debian or Ubuntu. On Feb 27, 2018 4:31 PM, "Dick Steffens" wrote: I'm running Ubuntu MATE 16.04. The Software Updater showed up this afternoon. When I try to run it I get an error message: Failed to download repository information. Check your Internet connection. When I "Try Again" it repeats. When I click "OK" I get a window that starts out with: Some software couldn't be checked for updates. And then it gives me a long list. When I click "Install Now" I get the Authenticate window, into which I type my password. When I click "Authenticate" I get another window that says: Requires installation of untrusted packages This requires installing packages from unauthenticated sources. I'm given the option of "Settings..." or "OK". When I click on "Settings..." I'm given a window with all the settings for Software Updater, but no hint of any that need adjusting. I click "OK" and I see a window that starts with: Updated software is available for this computer. Do you want to install it now? The computer also needs to restart to finishing previous updates. The long list of software to be updated is displayed under that. When I click "Install Now" it loops back to: Requires installation of untrusted packages This requires installing packages from unauthenticated sources. Since one of the messages told me the computer needed to be restarted to finish previous updates, I did that. And before starting anything else, like Thunderbird, I ran Software Updater. It went through the same series of windows, but when I clicked on "Install" this time, the window exited without doing anything that I could see. I searched for what log to look at. The results indicated I should look in /var/log/apt. The last entries in history.log and term.log were on 2018-02-24 at 06:52:42. Is there another log I should look in to see what's going on with Software Updater? Also, has anyone else seen this problem? Is there a different tree I should be barking up? Thanks. -- Regards, Dick Steffens ___ PLUG-talk mailing list plug-t...@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-talk -- Regards, Dick Steffens ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
