Re: Job: Software Developer 1 (Springville)
I'm not trying to be a heckler here but I see some serious problems with this ad. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Chris Wood ch...@tincreek.com wrote: We are a global leader in the IFE (In-Flight Entertainment) industry. We produce a line of personal media players that our airline customers make available to their passenger. In other words, we make a cool little Linux-based media player that people rent to watch movies on airplanes. We have working relationships with all major Hollywood studios, like Buena Vista, Fox, Universal, and Warner Brothers. We have customer airlines all over the world: Alaska Airline, Hawaiian Airlines, Azerbaijan in the Middle East, Aeroflot in Russia, Pacific Blue in New Zealand, and Thomas Cook in Belgium. If this sounds like a fun project to you, send us your resume. We need your insights. What project, you haven't mentioned a project as far as I can see. What You’ll Be Doing: While your specific assignments will be based on your abilities and experience, you’ll get to work with experienced engineers that know how to produce and maintain commercial grade software. You’ll become familiar with Linux, Qt, Python and bash shell scripting. You’ll learn industry best practices in coding, bug tracking, version control and software testing. Pay: $17/hour (BOE) 20 – 30 hours/week (Part-time position) Flexible scheduling (can accommodate school schedule) Qualifications • Working knowledge of C/C++ or similar language (Java, C#, etc.) • Good problem solving skills • Knowledge of Linux programming tools a plus, but not required • Linux command line, scripting, etc Go here to apply: http://digecor.iapplicants.com/ViewJob-217303.html If you find anyone willing to work that cheap with those qualifications they probably aren't in the USA nor will they have a good command of the English language. I'm pretty sure even entry level programmer positions are going for a minimum $25 per hour most places in Utah. The person you are looking for will probably need at least 2x what you are offering. Furthermore, if you do hire someone that cheaply, I can pretty much guarantee you you won't remain the global leader in anything other than maybe product returns. Again, I'm not trying to sound like a jerk but the job description is vague, the requirements unclear and the pay seems well below the market average for entry level. If you can clear any or all of these up you'll find better qualified candidates much quicker. Anyone else feel the same way? /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
Re: Job: Software Developer 1 (Springville)
On 10/25/2011 10:10 PM, S. Dale Morrey wrote: Again, I'm not trying to sound like a jerk but the job description is vague, the requirements unclear and the pay seems well below the market average for entry level. If you can clear any or all of these up you'll find better qualified candidates much quicker. Anyone else feel the same way? The job seems designed for a young college student who has learned the basics of Java or C/C++, but perhaps not enough to reach entry level. I would have enjoyed the work experience while going through college. Shane /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
Re: Job: Software Developer 1 (Springville)
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:10 PM, S. Dale Morrey sdalemor...@gmail.com wrote: Again, I'm not trying to sound like a jerk but the job description is vague, the requirements unclear and the pay seems well below the market average for entry level. If you can clear any or all of these up you'll find better qualified candidates much quicker. Clearly this is targeting a student (or someone at the start of their career). Listen to the tone of the offer: based on your abilities and experience you’ll learn industry best practices can accommodate school working knowledge We don't have to blast every job offer that comes across this list. If you don't like it, don't apply. But don't presume to know what's best for everyone on the list. Some of us had to learn everything on our own when starting; I would have *loved* that exposure as a student preparing to graduate. As a bonus, it pays much better than most on-campus jobs. Finally, have some confidence in the job market. It will make adjustments if needed. Gabe /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
Re: Job: Software Developer 1 (Springville)
On 10/25/2011 10:45 PM, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: Clearly this is targeting a student (or someone at the start of their career). Listen to the tone of the offer: based on your abilities and experience you’ll learn industry best practices can accommodate school working knowledge We don't have to blast every job offer that comes across this list. If you don't like it, don't apply. But don't presume to know what's best for everyone on the list. Some of us had to learn everything on our own when starting; I would have *loved* that exposure as a student preparing to graduate. As a bonus, it pays much better than most on-campus jobs. Finally, have some confidence in the job market. It will make adjustments if needed. Gabe /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */ Flexible scheduling for school is mentioned, but it is not clear that the primary candidate should be a student. If you're looking for students / interns, say so in the ad. Henry /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
