Re: Epson EcoTank printer
are you from Chicago? On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 09:58:19 PM MST, Daniel Stasinski via PLUG-discuss wrote: I saw this whole thread about an hour after Amazon dropped off my ET-3850 printer. Linux Mint detected it and all seems to be working fine. I had a ET-2750 for 3+ years and it too worked fine. The only issue I ever had with it was when printing multiple copies of a page, it would only print one copy, but that seems to have been resolved. Daniel P. Stasinski dan...@genericinbox.com ✞ Jesus Is King ✞ On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 7:35 PM Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss wrote: Well if you got yours running then your doing good. Epson told me themselves they don’t make drivers now for Linux. The drivers they still have online are very old and out of date. I took my Epson printer back because I couldn’t get it to work with my fedora Linux. I finally went with the newest all-in-one brother printer with wide format. And works great and they will help anyone running Linux and the drivers are the most up to date. On Wed, Dec 28, 2022, at 16:51, Nathan via PLUG-discuss wrote: > On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 3:09:17 PM CST Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss > wrote: >> Brother supports Linux on all their printers. I have a all-in-one with fax >> and works great. Epson stopped supporting Linux 3 years ago. >> > > > You got anything to support this? In the past several years I have, very > happily, dumped my HP printers and replaced them with Epson EcoTank printers > and love them. > > So much so, that I just recently purchased their 16600 series for my wife's > Etsy business. They are fast, and flawless, as far as I can tell. > > We use all Fedora, if that makes a difference. > I will never again purchase anything but Epson. > > (one caveat, I use ethernet solely for my printers. I despise wifi) > > > > > > >> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, at 12:06, Rusty Carruth via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> > Report on printer compatibility with Linux as experienced today. >> > >> > I won't bore everyone with all the details (but I will mention this >> > whole exercise took many hours of research, plus 2 trips to 3 different >> > stores, and the purchase and return of a printer that didn't do fax as I >> > wanted), but, I was in the market for a printer to replace my HP color >> > laser all-in-one. >> > >> > >> > Why would I replace a really nice HP Color LaserJet? Well, it >> > apparently decided that it wouldn't print well any more with non-HP >> > carts, and buying a full set of the silly things was in the neighborhood >> > of $300 or more, IIRC. (Oh, and the HP instant ink program, which >> > looked like a pretty good deal, is ONLY for inkjet printers!) >> > >> > >> > So, I figured I could spend $300 for genuine HP and HOPE it made the >> > printer happy, or punt and get a new printer. I went the latter route. >> > >> > >> > After 'much'-ish research, I decided I'd go for a Brother Color Laser >> > All-In-One (we require Fax, don't ask why ;-), since Brothers are >> > reputed to be excellently-supported on Linux. >> > >> > >> > Found the best price anywhere (the local Staples, believe it or not!) >> > and was about to plunk down my card to get it when I realized it was >> > going to be around $750 or so for the printer ($400-ish?) and genuine >> > Brother carts ($350-ish - sound similar to the HP prices? yeah.). >> > >> > >> > Woah! Ouch! Hey, I'm retired now, that's kinda a shock. Back up, >> > regroup, decide to try out the EcoTank idea, something I'd seriously >> > considered in the past. Picked an Epson (ET-4800, for like $269 at - >> > believe it or not - WalMart (I'm skipping the first purchase which I had >> > to return - no fax)), brought it home. >> > >> > >> > Interesting setup method. I downloaded the Epson printer setup app on >> > to my Android. All went very well until I tried to enter my WIFI >> > password. (First off, it doesn't look like the ET-4800 does 5GHz Wifi, >> > only 2.4, so I had to switch my phone over to the 2.4 side. This might >> > be an 'issue' with more than my 4800, so beware). I tried it 4 or 5 >> > times, never got it to work (and the app was very weird - in order to >> > re-enter your WiFI password you had to tell it you had done it, then it >> > would give you the 'enter password' dialog. Otherwise it was in an >> > infinite loop saying it couldn't see the printer yet, did you enter the >> > password correctly, did you do it right). >> > >> > Anyway, after the ink was 'charged', I went to the front panel and >> > connected to wifi (just fine, thank you very much, on the first try), >> > then suddenly the app saw it and all was well. >> > >> > My son has Apple stuff and was pretty much immediately able to print. >> > >> > I went to Epson and looked up Linux print support, downloaded the >> > appropriate (in my case) .deb file, installed it and the >> > epsonscan2-bundle, fired up my 'Printers' tool, and there it was. I >> > didn't even ha
Re: Epson EcoTank printer
I saw this whole thread about an hour after Amazon dropped off my ET-3850 printer. Linux Mint detected it and all seems to be working fine. I had a ET-2750 for 3+ years and it too worked fine. The only issue I ever had with it was when printing multiple copies of a page, it would only print one copy, but that seems to have been resolved. *Daniel P. Stasinski* dan...@genericinbox.com ✞ *Jesus Is King *✞ On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 7:35 PM Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > Well if you got yours running then your doing good. Epson told me > themselves they don’t make drivers now for Linux. The drivers they still > have online are very old and out of date. I took my Epson printer back > because I couldn’t get it to work with my fedora Linux. > I finally went with the newest all-in-one brother printer with wide > format. And works great and they will help anyone running Linux and the > drivers are the most up to date. > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2022, at 16:51, Nathan via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 3:09:17 PM CST Harold Hartley via > PLUG-discuss > > wrote: > >> Brother supports Linux on all their printers. I have a all-in-one with > fax > >> and works great. Epson stopped supporting Linux 3 years ago. > >> > > > > > > You got anything to support this? In the past several years I have, very > > happily, dumped my HP printers and replaced them with Epson EcoTank > printers > > and love them. > > > > So much so, that I just recently purchased their 16600 series for my > wife's > > Etsy business. They are fast, and flawless, as far as I can tell. > > > > We use all Fedora, if that makes a difference. > > I will never again purchase anything but Epson. > > > > (one caveat, I use ethernet solely for my printers. I despise wifi) > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, at 12:06, Rusty Carruth via PLUG-discuss wrote: > >> > Report on printer compatibility with Linux as experienced today. > >> > > >> > I won't bore everyone with all the details (but I will mention this > >> > whole exercise took many hours of research, plus 2 trips to 3 > different > >> > stores, and the purchase and return of a printer that didn't do fax > as I > >> > wanted), but, I was in the market for a printer to replace my HP color > >> > laser all-in-one. > >> > > >> > > >> > Why would I replace a really nice HP Color LaserJet? Well, it > >> > apparently decided that it wouldn't print well any more with non-HP > >> > carts, and buying a full set of the silly things was in the > neighborhood > >> > of $300 or more, IIRC. (Oh, and the HP instant ink program, which > >> > looked like a pretty good deal, is ONLY for inkjet printers!) > >> > > >> > > >> > So, I figured I could spend $300 for genuine HP and HOPE it made the > >> > printer happy, or punt and get a new printer. I went the latter > route. > >> > > >> > > >> > After 'much'-ish research, I decided I'd go for a Brother Color Laser > >> > All-In-One (we require Fax, don't ask why ;-), since Brothers are > >> > reputed to be excellently-supported on Linux. > >> > > >> > > >> > Found the best price anywhere (the local Staples, believe it or not!) > >> > and was about to plunk down my card to get it when I realized it was > >> > going to be around $750 or so for the printer ($400-ish?) and genuine > >> > Brother carts ($350-ish - sound similar to the HP prices? yeah.). > >> > > >> > > >> > Woah! Ouch! Hey, I'm retired now, that's kinda a shock. Back up, > >> > regroup, decide to try out the EcoTank idea, something I'd seriously > >> > considered in the past. Picked an Epson (ET-4800, for like $269 at - > >> > believe it or not - WalMart (I'm skipping the first purchase which I > had > >> > to return - no fax)), brought it home. > >> > > >> > > >> > Interesting setup method. I downloaded the Epson printer setup app on > >> > to my Android. All went very well until I tried to enter my WIFI > >> > password. (First off, it doesn't look like the ET-4800 does 5GHz > Wifi, > >> > only 2.4, so I had to switch my phone over to the 2.4 side. This might > >> > be an 'issue' with more than my 4800, so beware). I tried it 4 or 5 > >> > times, never got it to work (and the app was very weird - in order to > >> > re-enter your WiFI password you had to tell it you had done it, then > it > >> > would give you the 'enter password' dialog. Otherwise it was in an > >> > infinite loop saying it couldn't see the printer yet, did you enter > the > >> > password correctly, did you do it right). > >> > > >> > Anyway, after the ink was 'charged', I went to the front panel and > >> > connected to wifi (just fine, thank you very much, on the first try), > >> > then suddenly the app saw it and all was well. > >> > > >> > My son has Apple stuff and was pretty much immediately able to print. > >> > > >> > I went to Epson and looked up Linux print support, downloaded the > >> > appropriate (in my case) .deb file, installed it and the > >> >
Re: McDonald's unveils first automated location
The technology has been available for almost a decade and with the use of AI we will start seeing businesses starting to spend the money on it as a lot of businesses have openings for jobs but no one seems interested. How businesses are being run has changed since the pandemic and people are expecting more pay but businesses are starting to pay less based on the person’s skill for the job. On Wed, Dec 28, 2022, at 20:48, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Is this even possible? > https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11580467/Man-buys-router-thrift-store-finds-previous-owners-bank-account-credit-card-numbers.html > > > > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 06:43:09 PM MST, Keith Smith via > PLUG-discuss wrote: > > > On 2022-12-28 18:25, Nathan via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 7:14:56 PM CST Keith Smith via >> PLUG-discuss >> wrote: >> >>> Unskilled labor is about to be hardcore unemployed and the jobs that >>> will be available will be for those who have leaned some skills. >>> >> >> >> There is no such thing as unskilled labor, only exploitation of the >> unprivileged. >> > > I worked in a gas station in my youth. Back in the 70's gas stations > were full service. I fix flats, pumped gas, checked oil, cleaned > windshields, once in a while I would air up a tire. > > And there was that job at the bakery where I made donuts. Did not > require a lot of skill. > > Seems very unskilled. > > >> >>> I'm thinking at some point in the future I will be replaced by a >>> machine. I am a programmer. The world will be ruled by the >>> engineers. >>> >> >> Engineers will not work if they are not paid, > > Not sure anyone is suggesting they work for free. I assume they will be > highly paid as they are today. > >> they have no power unless they >> work together. The elite/rich/bourgeois/1% will rule so long as they >> own our >> politicians and the exploited working class continues to worship their >> masters >> like Musk. > > I had no idea Musk was an elitist. > >> We are too far down the rabbit hole of Stockholm syndrome for the >> working class to ever achieve anything. >> > >> We need a revolution. > > Be careful what you wish for. > >> Of course, let them automate everything. I welcome it. >> When they eliminate all jobs and replace people with machines, let them >> sell >> cheese burgers to the robots. >> > > Could create an interesting situation. > > >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: McDonald's unveils first automated location
Is this even possible?https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11580467/Man-buys-router-thrift-store-finds-previous-owners-bank-account-credit-card-numbers.html On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 06:43:09 PM MST, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: On 2022-12-28 18:25, Nathan via PLUG-discuss wrote: > On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 7:14:56 PM CST Keith Smith via > PLUG-discuss > wrote: > >> Unskilled labor is about to be hardcore unemployed and the jobs that >> will be available will be for those who have leaned some skills. >> > > > There is no such thing as unskilled labor, only exploitation of the > unprivileged. > I worked in a gas station in my youth. Back in the 70's gas stations were full service. I fix flats, pumped gas, checked oil, cleaned windshields, once in a while I would air up a tire. And there was that job at the bakery where I made donuts. Did not require a lot of skill. Seems very unskilled. > >> I'm thinking at some point in the future I will be replaced by a >> machine. I am a programmer. The world will be ruled by the >> engineers. >> > > Engineers will not work if they are not paid, Not sure anyone is suggesting they work for free. I assume they will be highly paid as they are today. > they have no power unless they > work together. The elite/rich/bourgeois/1% will rule so long as they > own our > politicians and the exploited working class continues to worship their > masters > like Musk. I had no idea Musk was an elitist. > We are too far down the rabbit hole of Stockholm syndrome for the > working class to ever achieve anything. > > We need a revolution. Be careful what you wish for. > Of course, let them automate everything. I welcome it. > When they eliminate all jobs and replace people with machines, let them > sell > cheese burgers to the robots. > Could create an interesting situation. > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Epson EcoTank printer
Well if you got yours running then your doing good. Epson told me themselves they don’t make drivers now for Linux. The drivers they still have online are very old and out of date. I took my Epson printer back because I couldn’t get it to work with my fedora Linux. I finally went with the newest all-in-one brother printer with wide format. And works great and they will help anyone running Linux and the drivers are the most up to date. On Wed, Dec 28, 2022, at 16:51, Nathan via PLUG-discuss wrote: > On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 3:09:17 PM CST Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss > wrote: >> Brother supports Linux on all their printers. I have a all-in-one with fax >> and works great. Epson stopped supporting Linux 3 years ago. >> > > > You got anything to support this? In the past several years I have, very > happily, dumped my HP printers and replaced them with Epson EcoTank printers > and love them. > > So much so, that I just recently purchased their 16600 series for my wife's > Etsy business. They are fast, and flawless, as far as I can tell. > > We use all Fedora, if that makes a difference. > I will never again purchase anything but Epson. > > (one caveat, I use ethernet solely for my printers. I despise wifi) > > > > > > >> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, at 12:06, Rusty Carruth via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> > Report on printer compatibility with Linux as experienced today. >> > >> > I won't bore everyone with all the details (but I will mention this >> > whole exercise took many hours of research, plus 2 trips to 3 different >> > stores, and the purchase and return of a printer that didn't do fax as I >> > wanted), but, I was in the market for a printer to replace my HP color >> > laser all-in-one. >> > >> > >> > Why would I replace a really nice HP Color LaserJet? Well, it >> > apparently decided that it wouldn't print well any more with non-HP >> > carts, and buying a full set of the silly things was in the neighborhood >> > of $300 or more, IIRC. (Oh, and the HP instant ink program, which >> > looked like a pretty good deal, is ONLY for inkjet printers!) >> > >> > >> > So, I figured I could spend $300 for genuine HP and HOPE it made the >> > printer happy, or punt and get a new printer. I went the latter route. >> > >> > >> > After 'much'-ish research, I decided I'd go for a Brother Color Laser >> > All-In-One (we require Fax, don't ask why ;-), since Brothers are >> > reputed to be excellently-supported on Linux. >> > >> > >> > Found the best price anywhere (the local Staples, believe it or not!) >> > and was about to plunk down my card to get it when I realized it was >> > going to be around $750 or so for the printer ($400-ish?) and genuine >> > Brother carts ($350-ish - sound similar to the HP prices? yeah.). >> > >> > >> > Woah! Ouch! Hey, I'm retired now, that's kinda a shock. Back up, >> > regroup, decide to try out the EcoTank idea, something I'd seriously >> > considered in the past. Picked an Epson (ET-4800, for like $269 at - >> > believe it or not - WalMart (I'm skipping the first purchase which I had >> > to return - no fax)), brought it home. >> > >> > >> > Interesting setup method. I downloaded the Epson printer setup app on >> > to my Android. All went very well until I tried to enter my WIFI >> > password. (First off, it doesn't look like the ET-4800 does 5GHz Wifi, >> > only 2.4, so I had to switch my phone over to the 2.4 side. This might >> > be an 'issue' with more than my 4800, so beware). I tried it 4 or 5 >> > times, never got it to work (and the app was very weird - in order to >> > re-enter your WiFI password you had to tell it you had done it, then it >> > would give you the 'enter password' dialog. Otherwise it was in an >> > infinite loop saying it couldn't see the printer yet, did you enter the >> > password correctly, did you do it right). >> > >> > Anyway, after the ink was 'charged', I went to the front panel and >> > connected to wifi (just fine, thank you very much, on the first try), >> > then suddenly the app saw it and all was well. >> > >> > My son has Apple stuff and was pretty much immediately able to print. >> > >> > I went to Epson and looked up Linux print support, downloaded the >> > appropriate (in my case) .deb file, installed it and the >> > epsonscan2-bundle, fired up my 'Printers' tool, and there it was. I >> > didn't even have to search/destroy um, I mean search/install. >> > >> > Select it, say print test page, immediate print success. >> > >> > >> > On my wife's Linux machine I tried running their 'epsonscan2' program >> > and was not impressed. It didn't find the scanner. So, I ran over to >> > XSane and simple-scan and both could see it with no problem. I used >> > XSane to scan in both BW and color, no problems. Oh, and it knew to let >> > me choose the ADF or the flatbed! >> > >> > At first I thought it didn't have extreme scan resolution, then I >> > fiddled in simple-scan and set it to 1200 - whoa! But very sl
Re: McDonald's unveils first automated location
On 2022-12-28 18:25, Nathan via PLUG-discuss wrote: On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 7:14:56 PM CST Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: Unskilled labor is about to be hardcore unemployed and the jobs that will be available will be for those who have leaned some skills. There is no such thing as unskilled labor, only exploitation of the unprivileged. I worked in a gas station in my youth. Back in the 70's gas stations were full service. I fix flats, pumped gas, checked oil, cleaned windshields, once in a while I would air up a tire. And there was that job at the bakery where I made donuts. Did not require a lot of skill. Seems very unskilled. I'm thinking at some point in the future I will be replaced by a machine. I am a programmer. The world will be ruled by the engineers. Engineers will not work if they are not paid, Not sure anyone is suggesting they work for free. I assume they will be highly paid as they are today. they have no power unless they work together. The elite/rich/bourgeois/1% will rule so long as they own our politicians and the exploited working class continues to worship their masters like Musk. I had no idea Musk was an elitist. We are too far down the rabbit hole of Stockholm syndrome for the working class to ever achieve anything. We need a revolution. Be careful what you wish for. Of course, let them automate everything. I welcome it. When they eliminate all jobs and replace people with machines, let them sell cheese burgers to the robots. Could create an interesting situation. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: McDonald's unveils first automated location
On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 7:14:56 PM CST Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Unskilled labor is about to be hardcore unemployed and the jobs that > will be available will be for those who have leaned some skills. > There is no such thing as unskilled labor, only exploitation of the unprivileged. > I'm thinking at some point in the future I will be replaced by a > machine. I am a programmer. The world will be ruled by the engineers. > Engineers will not work if they are not paid, they have no power unless they work together. The elite/rich/bourgeois/1% will rule so long as they own our politicians and the exploited working class continues to worship their masters like Musk. We are too far down the rabbit hole of Stockholm syndrome for the working class to ever achieve anything. We need a revolution. Of course, let them automate everything. I welcome it. When they eliminate all jobs and replace people with machines, let them sell cheese burgers to the robots. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: McDonald's unveils first automated location
Let me say that I think people need to make a fair wage. I had a conversion with a guy maybe 8 years ago. He was pushing a raise in minimum wage. He was a big shot in Silicon Valley. I told him what my econ prof said : "Alternatives become more available as the price of any given thing rises." He premised this by saying Phelps Dodge does not want copper to go over $1 a pound. It was in the late 80's. I thought he was crazy until he mentioned alternatives. According to this prof aluminum became viable once copper went over $1/lbs. I went on to tell the Silicon Valley guy he and his cronies where the ones that would benefit from excessive minimum wage. He seems shocked. Now we see the proof. Today automation is cheap and labor is not so cheap. Machines break down, however they never call in sick or not do their job, and they will work 24/7 w/o benefits. This article says two things to me. Unskilled labor is about to be hardcore unemployed and the jobs that will be available will be for those who have leaned some skills. I'm thinking at some point in the future I will be replaced by a machine. I am a programmer. The world will be ruled by the engineers. On 2022-12-28 10:20, Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss wrote: The article says there are people there to tend cash register and a couple of other things. On Wed, Dec 28, 2022, at 10:00, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote: Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Wed, 28 Dec 2022 07:22:37 -0700 Thought you might find this interesting. https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/mcdonalds-unveils-first-automated-location-social-media-worried-will-cut-millions-jobs Sounds like a good idea, but I pay with cash, and I don't like putting my twenty dollar bill in a machine, with no witnesses, and taking the chance that the machine will simply eat my bill, with no audit trail. SteveT Steve Litt Autumn 2022 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/thrive.htm --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Epson EcoTank printer
On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 3:09:17 PM CST Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Brother supports Linux on all their printers. I have a all-in-one with fax > and works great. Epson stopped supporting Linux 3 years ago. > You got anything to support this? In the past several years I have, very happily, dumped my HP printers and replaced them with Epson EcoTank printers and love them. So much so, that I just recently purchased their 16600 series for my wife's Etsy business. They are fast, and flawless, as far as I can tell. We use all Fedora, if that makes a difference. I will never again purchase anything but Epson. (one caveat, I use ethernet solely for my printers. I despise wifi) > On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, at 12:06, Rusty Carruth via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > Report on printer compatibility with Linux as experienced today. > > > > I won't bore everyone with all the details (but I will mention this > > whole exercise took many hours of research, plus 2 trips to 3 different > > stores, and the purchase and return of a printer that didn't do fax as I > > wanted), but, I was in the market for a printer to replace my HP color > > laser all-in-one. > > > > > > Why would I replace a really nice HP Color LaserJet? Well, it > > apparently decided that it wouldn't print well any more with non-HP > > carts, and buying a full set of the silly things was in the neighborhood > > of $300 or more, IIRC. (Oh, and the HP instant ink program, which > > looked like a pretty good deal, is ONLY for inkjet printers!) > > > > > > So, I figured I could spend $300 for genuine HP and HOPE it made the > > printer happy, or punt and get a new printer. I went the latter route. > > > > > > After 'much'-ish research, I decided I'd go for a Brother Color Laser > > All-In-One (we require Fax, don't ask why ;-), since Brothers are > > reputed to be excellently-supported on Linux. > > > > > > Found the best price anywhere (the local Staples, believe it or not!) > > and was about to plunk down my card to get it when I realized it was > > going to be around $750 or so for the printer ($400-ish?) and genuine > > Brother carts ($350-ish - sound similar to the HP prices? yeah.). > > > > > > Woah! Ouch! Hey, I'm retired now, that's kinda a shock. Back up, > > regroup, decide to try out the EcoTank idea, something I'd seriously > > considered in the past. Picked an Epson (ET-4800, for like $269 at - > > believe it or not - WalMart (I'm skipping the first purchase which I had > > to return - no fax)), brought it home. > > > > > > Interesting setup method. I downloaded the Epson printer setup app on > > to my Android. All went very well until I tried to enter my WIFI > > password. (First off, it doesn't look like the ET-4800 does 5GHz Wifi, > > only 2.4, so I had to switch my phone over to the 2.4 side. This might > > be an 'issue' with more than my 4800, so beware). I tried it 4 or 5 > > times, never got it to work (and the app was very weird - in order to > > re-enter your WiFI password you had to tell it you had done it, then it > > would give you the 'enter password' dialog. Otherwise it was in an > > infinite loop saying it couldn't see the printer yet, did you enter the > > password correctly, did you do it right). > > > > Anyway, after the ink was 'charged', I went to the front panel and > > connected to wifi (just fine, thank you very much, on the first try), > > then suddenly the app saw it and all was well. > > > > My son has Apple stuff and was pretty much immediately able to print. > > > > I went to Epson and looked up Linux print support, downloaded the > > appropriate (in my case) .deb file, installed it and the > > epsonscan2-bundle, fired up my 'Printers' tool, and there it was. I > > didn't even have to search/destroy um, I mean search/install. > > > > Select it, say print test page, immediate print success. > > > > > > On my wife's Linux machine I tried running their 'epsonscan2' program > > and was not impressed. It didn't find the scanner. So, I ran over to > > XSane and simple-scan and both could see it with no problem. I used > > XSane to scan in both BW and color, no problems. Oh, and it knew to let > > me choose the ADF or the flatbed! > > > > At first I thought it didn't have extreme scan resolution, then I > > fiddled in simple-scan and set it to 1200 - whoa! But very slow. > > > > (In the spirit of full disclosure, I'm having a weird problem getting > > scanning to work on my computer, but it works perfectly on my wife's...) > > > > When I did all the above stuff with my HP (long ago in a galaxy far > > away), it worked, but I seem to recall that getting the scanning to work > > was a little more of an issue. > > > > > > On the other hand, I have a much older Epson (from an even longer time > > ago and an even further away galaxy!) that I did have issues with > > finding and setting up, so it looks to me like Epson has improved a lot. > > > > > > Haven't printed muc
Re: McDonald's unveils first automated location
The article says there are people there to tend cash register and a couple of other things. On Wed, Dec 28, 2022, at 10:00, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Wed, 28 Dec 2022 07:22:37 -0700 > >>Thought you might find this interesting. >> >>https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/mcdonalds-unveils-first-automated-location-social-media-worried-will-cut-millions-jobs > > Sounds like a good idea, but I pay with cash, and I don't like putting > my twenty dollar bill in a machine, with no witnesses, and taking the > chance that the machine will simply eat my bill, with no audit trail. > > SteveT > > Steve Litt > Autumn 2022 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times > http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/thrive.htm > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Harold Hartley 17632 N. 5th place Phoenix, AZ 85022 wheelie...@ownmail.net --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: McDonald's unveils first automated location
Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Wed, 28 Dec 2022 07:22:37 -0700 >Thought you might find this interesting. > >https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/mcdonalds-unveils-first-automated-location-social-media-worried-will-cut-millions-jobs Sounds like a good idea, but I pay with cash, and I don't like putting my twenty dollar bill in a machine, with no witnesses, and taking the chance that the machine will simply eat my bill, with no audit trail. SteveT Steve Litt Autumn 2022 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/thrive.htm --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
McDonald's unveils first automated location
Thought you might find this interesting. https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/mcdonalds-unveils-first-automated-location-social-media-worried-will-cut-millions-jobs --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
