Re: OT Humidity, was time off

2024-06-23 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
Reclaiming water from the sewer:  The $1BN Megaproject to Save 
California:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lpYVi2OkwQ





On 2024-06-23 06:24, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
In Tucson there is a park named "Randolph Park". It is about a square 
mile in size.  They water the park with reclaimed water.  It does have 
a slight odor to it.  Yikes!!


I like my coffee with the slight odor of recycle..Yummy!!!

Ok, so I am a Christian and in the Bible God says to subdue the earth.  
If God wants us to populate the earth then there must be a plan?  I 
think in a nutshell the problem is we have not asked God for wisdom.  
His word promises if we ask for wisdom he will provide wisdom.


Keith

On 2024-06-23 06:03, Jim via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Water can be made fit to drink again.  I'm reminded of the joke that
says:  What do they make today's coffee with on the space station?
Yesterday's coffee.
On 6/22/24 06:36, Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss wrote:


Can water for agricultural use be reclaimed? Other than it
eventually making its way back into the water table?

Water could also be recycled/treated such that it's good for
agricultural use but not for consumption, which I imagine would be
cheaper than fully reclaiming the water, which could then be used
for agriculture rather than fresh water. The extra... lets call them
nutrients... that are unsuitable for human consumption may help
fertilize the plants as well.

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Re: AI Tools For Article Writing

2024-06-23 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss

Interesting Story!!



On 2024-06-23 14:12, George Toft via PLUG-discuss wrote:

I made AutoCrit (book authoring software with GenAI analysis tools)
hallucinate last week. I did an analysis on my Glossary, and it came
up with a completely new story arc, new characters. I raised awareness
with Support and they had it fixed in about 2 hours.

Regards,

George Toft

On 6/23/2024 12:30 PM, Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss wrote:


Yes. I wrote this using a mix of ChatGPT and Grammarly.



https://sba.tc/embracing-the-cloud-a-vital-pivot-for-small-businesses/


What you see was a pass through ChatGPT, for the initial content,
then a pass through Grammarly for ... Grammar, but they also have a
lot of tools about scanning for the "voice" of the article, and
plagiarism, and other helpful things.

Rinse and repeat that cycle about 3 or 4 times to get it "just
right".

--
Thanks,
Alexander

Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro

On Sun, Jun 23, 2024, 06:31 Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
 wrote:


Hi,

Anyone using any AI tools for article writing. If so what are you
using?

Is anyone using AI at all? if so for what.

I have been playing with ChatGPT and it is great for writing PHP
code if
one uses the correct prompts.

Keith
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Re: AI Tools For Article Writing

2024-06-23 Thread George Toft via PLUG-discuss
I made AutoCrit (book authoring software with GenAI analysis tools) 
hallucinate last week. I did an analysis on my Glossary, and it came up 
with a completely new story arc, new characters. I raised awareness with 
Support and they had it fixed in about 2 hours.


Regards,

George Toft

On 6/23/2024 12:30 PM, Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Yes. I wrote this using a mix of ChatGPT and Grammarly.

https://sba.tc/embracing-the-cloud-a-vital-pivot-for-small-businesses/

What you see was a pass through ChatGPT, for the initial content, then 
a pass through Grammarly for ... Grammar, but they also have a lot of 
tools about scanning for the "voice" of the article, and plagiarism, 
and other helpful things.


Rinse and repeat that cycle about 3 or 4 times to get it "just right".

--
Thanks,
Alexander

Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro

On Sun, Jun 23, 2024, 06:31 Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss 
 wrote:


Hi,

Anyone using any AI tools for article writing. If so what are you
using?

Is anyone using AI at all? if so for what.

I have been playing with ChatGPT and it is great for writing PHP
code if
one uses the correct prompts.

Keith
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Re: AI Tools For Article Writing

2024-06-23 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss

Very Nice !! Thank You for sharing!!

On 2024-06-23 12:30, Snyder, Alexander J wrote:

Yes. I wrote this using a mix of ChatGPT and Grammarly.

https://sba.tc/embracing-the-cloud-a-vital-pivot-for-small-businesses/

What you see was a pass through ChatGPT, for the initial content, then
a pass through Grammarly for ... Grammar, but they also have a lot of
tools about scanning for the "voice" of the article, and plagiarism,
and other helpful things.

Rinse and repeat that cycle about 3 or 4 times to get it "just right".

--
Thanks,
Alexander

Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro

On Sun, Jun 23, 2024, 06:31 Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
 wrote:


Hi,

Anyone using any AI tools for article writing. If so what are you
using?

Is anyone using AI at all? if so for what.

I have been playing with ChatGPT and it is great for writing PHP
code if
one uses the correct prompts.

Keith
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Re: AI Tools For Article Writing

2024-06-23 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss



So you are using https://chatgpt.com/ ?


On 2024-06-23 12:19, z via PLUG-discuss wrote:

ChatGPT. If I had the hardware, I'd be using codellama 70B on
oobabooga. What I can run on my 12G VRAM card is far lower quality
than ChatGPT.

Jun 23, 2024 06:31:27 Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
:


Hi,

Anyone using any AI tools for article writing. If so what are you
using?

Is anyone using AI at all? if so for what.

I have been playing with ChatGPT and it is great for writing PHP
code if one uses the correct prompts.

Keith
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Re: AI Tools For Article Writing

2024-06-23 Thread Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss
Yes. I wrote this using a mix of ChatGPT and Grammarly.

https://sba.tc/embracing-the-cloud-a-vital-pivot-for-small-businesses/

What you see was a pass through ChatGPT, for the initial content, then a
pass through Grammarly for ... Grammar, but they also have a lot of tools
about scanning for the "voice" of the article, and plagiarism, and other
helpful things.

Rinse and repeat that cycle about 3 or 4 times to get it "just right".

--
Thanks,
Alexander

Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro

On Sun, Jun 23, 2024, 06:31 Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Anyone using any AI tools for article writing. If so what are you using?
>
> Is anyone using AI at all? if so for what.
>
> I have been playing with ChatGPT and it is great for writing PHP code if
> one uses the correct prompts.
>
> Keith
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Re: AI Tools For Article Writing

2024-06-23 Thread z via PLUG-discuss
ChatGPT. If I had the hardware, I'd be using codellama 70B on oobabooga. What I 
can run on my 12G VRAM card is far lower quality than ChatGPT.

Jun 23, 2024 06:31:27 Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss 
:

> Hi,
> 
> Anyone using any AI tools for article writing. If so what are you using?
> 
> Is anyone using AI at all? if so for what.
> 
> I have been playing with ChatGPT and it is great for writing PHP code if one 
> uses the correct prompts.
> 
> Keith
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AI Tools For Article Writing

2024-06-23 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss

Hi,

Anyone using any AI tools for article writing. If so what are you using?

Is anyone using AI at all? if so for what.

I have been playing with ChatGPT and it is great for writing PHP code if 
one uses the correct prompts.


Keith
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Re: OT Humidity, was time off

2024-06-23 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
In Tucson there is a park named "Randolph Park". It is about a square 
mile in size.  They water the park with reclaimed water.  It does have a 
slight odor to it.  Yikes!!


I like my coffee with the slight odor of recycle..Yummy!!!

Ok, so I am a Christian and in the Bible God says to subdue the earth.  
If God wants us to populate the earth then there must be a plan?  I 
think in a nutshell the problem is we have not asked God for wisdom.  
His word promises if we ask for wisdom he will provide wisdom.


Keith

On 2024-06-23 06:03, Jim via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Water can be made fit to drink again.  I'm reminded of the joke that
says:  What do they make today's coffee with on the space station?
Yesterday's coffee.
On 6/22/24 06:36, Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss wrote:


Can water for agricultural use be reclaimed? Other than it
eventually making its way back into the water table?

Water could also be recycled/treated such that it's good for
agricultural use but not for consumption, which I imagine would be
cheaper than fully reclaiming the water, which could then be used
for agriculture rather than fresh water. The extra... lets call them
nutrients... that are unsuitable for human consumption may help
fertilize the plants as well.

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Re: OT Humidity, was time off

2024-06-23 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss

Yikes!!

On 2024-06-23 05:57, Jim via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Thanks for reminding me of George Carlin's Things to watch out for.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwEKx1P7AOA

On 6/22/24 19:49, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Thomas Scott via PLUG-discuss said on Sat, 22 Jun 2024 09:05:35 -0400


Long term - I don't think the growth curve AZ is on is sustainable
without burying the water transport (converting canals to pipes) to
avoid evaporation from the exposed surface, but that has it's own set
of issues as well.

Short term - it scares me. The situation is tenable, but it's on a
razor's edge, and if there are issues with the dams/reservoirs, and
the supply, it's going to hurt. A lot.

Ugh! Long term every place on earth is in danger. I live in Florida,
where because of increasing frequency of category 3 through 5
hurricanes, house insurance will soon be unavailable. On moving to
Orlando in 1998, summer bicycle riding was uncomfortable but doable.
With a hotter climate and developers cutting down solar energy
absorbing trees, in June through September you can ride only the first
2 hours after sunrise and the last 2 hours before sunset.

California is burning up, literally. Fires all over the place.

When I lived in Chicago 1949-1980, a window fan would suffice. Now
Chicagoans die in heat events because their homes and apartments were
(understandably at the time) built without air conditioning.

At various parts of the midwest, farmers suffer because alternating
floods and droughts raise their crop insurance to the point of
non-profitability. Food will become less and less available to the
non-rich.

Small islands are getting drowned by higher water levels.
China, India and Mexico City have horrible pollution, and people are
dying from respiratory problems.

As development encroaches on formerly uninhabited areas,
oxygen-supplying trees disappear and new-to-human microbes are let
loose.

There will be a worldwide population decline. I hope it's done with
birth control, but fear it will be from heat, floods, disease, and
scarcity.

How's that for OT :_)

SteveT

Steve Litt

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Re: OT Humidity, was time off

2024-06-23 Thread Jim via PLUG-discuss
Water can be made fit to drink again.  I'm reminded of the joke that 
says:  What do they make today's coffee with on the space station?  
Yesterday's coffee.


On 6/22/24 06:36, Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss wrote:
Can water for agricultural use be reclaimed? Other than it eventually 
making its way back into the water table?


Water could also be recycled/treated such that it's good for 
agricultural use but not for consumption, which I imagine would be 
cheaper than fully reclaiming the water, which could then be used for 
agriculture rather than fresh water. The extra... lets call them 
nutrients... that are unsuitable for human consumption may help 
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Re: OT Humidity, was time off

2024-06-23 Thread Jim via PLUG-discuss

Thanks for reminding me of George Carlin's Things to watch out for.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwEKx1P7AOA

On 6/22/24 19:49, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Thomas Scott via PLUG-discuss said on Sat, 22 Jun 2024 09:05:35 -0400


Long term - I don't think the growth curve AZ is on is sustainable
without burying the water transport (converting canals to pipes) to
avoid evaporation from the exposed surface, but that has it's own set
of issues as well.

Short term - it scares me. The situation is tenable, but it's on a
razor's edge, and if there are issues with the dams/reservoirs, and
the supply, it's going to hurt. A lot.

Ugh! Long term every place on earth is in danger. I live in Florida,
where because of increasing frequency of category 3 through 5
hurricanes, house insurance will soon be unavailable. On moving to
Orlando in 1998, summer bicycle riding was uncomfortable but doable.
With a hotter climate and developers cutting down solar energy
absorbing trees, in June through September you can ride only the first
2 hours after sunrise and the last 2 hours before sunset.

California is burning up, literally. Fires all over the place.

When I lived in Chicago 1949-1980, a window fan would suffice. Now
Chicagoans die in heat events because their homes and apartments were
(understandably at the time) built without air conditioning.

At various parts of the midwest, farmers suffer because alternating
floods and droughts raise their crop insurance to the point of
non-profitability. Food will become less and less available to the
non-rich.

Small islands are getting drowned by higher water levels.
China, India and Mexico City have horrible pollution, and people are
dying from respiratory problems.

As development encroaches on formerly uninhabited areas,
oxygen-supplying trees disappear and new-to-human microbes are let
loose.

There will be a worldwide population decline. I hope it's done with
birth control, but fear it will be from heat, floods, disease, and
scarcity.

How's that for OT :_)

SteveT

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Re: kaspersky

2024-06-23 Thread Jim via PLUG-discuss
Thanks for mentioning it.  This is the first I've heard of the ban.  The 
fact that the Biden regime wants me to not use it makes me want to use 
it.  However it is from Russia and A lot of cyber criminals are based in 
Russia. Also there's really no way to know whether or not it has some 
security hole in it that Putin ordered be put there.  This is why I 
don't use it and why I haven't used it.


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I'm sure most of you have heard about kaspersky now being banned from 
the U.S. I figured that was going to happen since Russia has control 
over business in that country and a national security threat to the 
U.S

Is anyone else surprised by this.

Harold Hartley

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