Re: new computer

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

SSD ram cache does not prevent wear and tear on your SSD, it is used stop
the bottleneck slowdown when writing lots of data to the SSD. The best way
to prevent wear and tear is system ram, if you have enough ram the system
may not even have to swap anything out, The three things that I always move
off of an SSD are swap, log files, and tmp.
 If you have a ddr4 motherboard with four slots. You can have 128 GB of
RAM. Right now you can get 64 GB of ddr4 RAM for around $135.

What determines how much RAM you need is the programs you are running and
how much RAM they need. Video and image editing require a lot more RAM then
email and Web browsing.

If you are going to use an SSD for your system drive. I would also
recommend that the minimum size be 2 TB. As long as you don't fill it up,
it has lots of room to use unused sectors to lessen the wear and tear.



On Sun, Feb 25, 2024, 8:24 AM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <
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> On my current system I am running without swap, but I do have 32gb ram.
>
> If you pick an ssd with a ram cache on it you don't have to worry about
> swap as much there. And you can extend ssd life with underprovisioning if
> it still is a concern. But in reality a good quality ssd Wil last for years
> even with swap in place as long as you don't run near max storage.
>
> On Sun, Feb 25, 2024, 6:49 AM James Mcphee via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> To avoid swap wearing out your ssd, if you don't have an hd handy, you
>> can set vm.swappiness to 0.  This is not great since paging is quite
>> efficient these days, but sometimes you'll want swap for suspend operations
>> and don't want to actually page unless you're under memory pressure.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 3:09 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Check out the latest batch of Intel-based N100 Mini PCs. They’re smaller
>>> than MacMinis.
>>>
>>> I’d say a minimal configuration would be 32GB of RAM and 1TB (or 2TB) of
>>> SSD. I’d say an N100 is minimal CPU.
>>>
>>> Some with AMD CPUs are cheaper as well.
>>>
>>> Here’s a search on Amazon:
>>>
>>> https://amzn.to/3woboP0
>>>
>>> They don’t sort very well; here’s the cheapest Linux box I found. There
>>> are cheaper ones with Windows that you can delete.
>>>
>>> https://amzn.to/48wM5rv
>>>
>>> I’ve got a 2014 MacMini, a 2014 MBP, and a 2018 MacMini and they’re
>>> still going strong. You can find late-model used Intel MacMinis for a few
>>> hundred bucks that work great.
>>>
>>> Way back in the day, the all-in-one boxes used to have problems with a
>>> serial port or the video going out and the whole thing would be dead. But
>>> that doesn’t seem to happen much any more. I use my MacMinis daily and the
>>> newer one runs the fan a lot when I’m watching videos, but other than that,
>>> they’re still humming right along. I had one of the first gen iMacs and the
>>> video card in it died shortly after the AppleCare expired. I ended up
>>> selling it for $375 anyway. Today you can buy USB-3 and USB-C expansion
>>> ports with one or more HDMI interfaces on them if the on-board video dies.
>>>
>>> Unless you need a super-high-power over-clocked water-cooled screaming
>>> machine for gaming or bitcoin mining, I cannot see the value in building a
>>> machine from scratch unless you’re trying to do it on the cheap using
>>> recycled components. What’s the point?
>>>
>>> -David Schwartz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2024, at 6:46 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss <
>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I want a guy I know to put a computer together for me. I'm thinking a
>>> single core (I don't think I need more processing power than that) with 8
>>> gig of ram. I'm wanting to spend $3-$400. I'm an older guy now and won't
>>> use it for much more than web and email. What should I tell him to put in
>>> it?
>>>
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Re: Stammtisch Tuesday

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

At one time we had one case of Ebola make it to the US and all the health
people dealing with it were wearing biosuits. Can you imagine if Ebola got
loose in the United States? What kind of comments we would have?
Look that guy's wearing a biosuit and he's driving in a car by himself. LMAO



On Tue, Nov 21, 2023, 1:33 PM Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss <
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> Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 21 Nov 2023 10:56:23 -0700
>
> >Ok,
> >
> >I get it.  However I have also read that some medical professionals
> >say the mask is only 2% effective while adding other issues.
>
> Cmon Keith. I've read that Hillary was dating an alien from outer space
> and Bill Clinton's girlfriend had three breasts. If you read from the
> right sources, you can read any crazy viewpoint. On the Debian-User
> mailing list, I once read that people who don't like systemd beat their
> wives.
>
> >
> >Basically Covid is the Flu
>
> The preceding statement is biologically wrong, and from a practical
> viewpoint, except in 1918 flu never killed the more than 1 million
> Americans and more than 100 million worldwide that Covid did.
>
> And speaking of the 1918 flu, people voluntarily donned masks because
> they didn't have emergency rooms and ventilators. They were in charge
> of their own health, so they made sure they paid for or created their
> own masks.
>
> >and has become a political issue.
>
> Exactly! If it were merely a health issue, there would be no pushback
> on masking for an event with more than 10 people in the room.
>
> >I could
> >write a book about all the stuff I've read.
>
> Exactly. Start the book by explaining logic, math, biology, chemistry
> and physics. Let people know how to compare what they read with the
> principles of science. Help them understand the scientific method, and
> how studies are done and validated, the importance of peer review. Tell
> them a little about hoaxes, snake oil salesmen, and conflicts of
> interest.
>
> Oh, by the way, PHP was created by the devil to entice men to marry
> three breasted alien women from the moon in order to sabotage pizza
> with psychiatric pills.
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt
>
> Autumn 2023 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century
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Re: Stammtisch Tuesday

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

I wonder who these medical professionals are, if the masks are only 2%
effective while adding other issues. Why is it that doctors have been
wearing them during surgery forever? You you would think someone in the
medical profession would have blown the whistle a long time ago at least
way before COVID.



On Tue, Nov 21, 2023, 10:56 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
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> Ok,
>
> I get it.  However I have also read that some medical professionals say
> the mask is only 2% effective while adding other issues.
>
> Basically Covid is the Flu and has become a political issue.  I could
> write a book about all the stuff I've read.
>
> Hope your friends feel better.
>
> Keith
>
>
>
> On 2023-11-21 08:36, der.hans wrote:
> > Am 21. Nov, 2023 schwätzte Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss so:
> >
> > moin moin,
> >
> >> Has masking become mandatory again?
> >
> > PLUG has members with immunity compromising health issues. I want them
> > to
> > be welcome to participate as well.
> >
> > The courtesy of masking shows consideration for those with underlying
> > health concerns.
> >
> > Covid and RSV are still very active. Friends of mine were just out for
> > a
> > week with RSV.
> >
> > The precaution of masking helps reduce spread of these dangerous
> > illnesses.
> >
> > ciao,
> >
> > der.hans
> >
> >> On 2023-11-20 21:52, der.hans via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> >>> moin moin,
> >>>
> >>> Stammtisch is Tuesday at Boulders on Southern starting at 19:00.
> >>>
> >>> I'm going to try to be there, on call willing.
> >>>
> >>> Physical location - Boulders on Southern, 1010 W Southern Ave, Mesa,
> >>> AZ
> >>>
> >>> Please mask when not eating
> >>>
> >>> Covid is not over, I want Stammtisch to be a relatively safe event
> >>> for
> >>> everyone
> >>>
> >>> Masking is a good way to help protect others
> >>>
> >>> If you are not feeling well, please stay home. You could join us in
> >>> #BBB
> >>>
> >>> https://lufthans.bigbluemeeting.com/plu-yuk-7xx
> >>>
> >>> ciao,
> >>>
> >>> der.hans
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Re: .com

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

NET, fishing basketball soccer  :-p

Sorry, I couldn't resist


On Fri, Sep 1, 2023, 9:13 AM Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> COMmercial
> ORGanization
> EDUcation
> GOVernment
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Alexander
>
> Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro
>
> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023, 07:17 Michael via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> what is that supposed to represent; comercial or communication
>>
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Re: web file caching question

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

What about setting up a CGI script on the Linux server that you pass the
URL to, it could do a wget to retrieve the file to the directory you
specify.


On Sun, May 14, 2023, 8:50 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss <
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> I’m building a web app that uses a 3rd-party text-to-speech (TTS) service;
> it's one of many things supported by a REST service I’ve created that runs
> on a Windows host somewhere. This service sends requests to the TTS service
> and gets back a URL to an MP3 file on their server. These files are only
> there for about an hour before they get deleted.
>
> My service sends back those URLs to the client, which is typically running
> on a mobile device. They can be consumed without any problem at the moment,
> telling me the TTS provider has disable CORS restrictions.
>
> Many of the requests that will be made are unique and will never be
> duplicated, so the fact that their vocalizations (the MP3 files) get
> deleted after an hour is not a problem.
>
> However, some of them (20-30%) are very likely to be duplicated, and it’s
> worth saving them somewhere so they can be re-used in the future. (The TTS
> service charges based on characters sent to them, and by reusing the MP3
> files over time, a lot of cost savings can accrue.)
>
> In my mind, I need to set up a way to cache these files somewhere.
>
> I don’t want to save them on the server that’s hosting the REST service
> because of the bandwidth costs.
>
> I’ve tried a few different things and it turns out this brings up CORS
> issues.
>
> I have my own web host and found out I can add a line to an htaccess file
> that will allow the files to be accessed. I can’t do that with hosted
> services like FileStack (which has other limitations as well).
>
> It looks like there’s a way to do it with Dropbox by changing the URL from
> this form:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/x12nrtdi08ipo352/sample-abc.mp3?dl=0
>
>
> to this form:
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/x12nrtdi08ipo352/sample-abc.mp3
>
>
> So, this brings up the question of HOW TO MOVE THE FILES INTO THE CACHE?
>
> Here’s my biggest constraint: I can access the files for up to an hour by
> using the TTS server’s URLs. Within that time-frame, they need to have been
> moved over to the host that’s doing the caching. After that, the code will
> quickly check to see if the requests have already been processed and are in
> the cache; if so, it will return a URL to the cached file, saving a
> needless encoding request.
>
> If I use Dropbox, I can simply set up the Dropbox app on the server
> hosting my REST service, and save the files to the Dropbox file tree.
> They’ll be copied into Dropbox automatically. But this means I’ll have a
> modest cost associated with maintaining a Dropbox account for this specific
> purpose ($130/yr).
>
>
> Alternatively, I can copy the files from the REST server over to my own
> host.
>
> What I’d like to ask this group is … what’s the best way to accomplish
> that?
>
> My host is currently on a shared reseller hosting plan, but as this
> scales-up, I’ll move it to a dedicated host.
>
> It’s running cPanel on a Linux server, probably running CentOS.
>
> I can set up cron jobs, and I’m told I can get some limited access to a
> shell (rsh probably) if needed.
>
> This is the same host I tested with the htaccess file to allow the files
> to be accessed without CORS issues.
>
> I’m wondering if it’s best to have the REST server copy the files from the
> TTS site to the other host somehow (eg, with FTP)?
>
> Or use something like rsync on the host to sweep files from the TTS site
> into the host, driven by a list provided by the REST service?
>
> Can I run rsync on a Windows host that copies files from server-A to
> server-B?
>
> Or maybe you guys have some better ideas? I’d love to hear some pros and
> cons about any solutions that might work.
>
> Note that I have not considered a cloud service other than FileStack
> (which I’ve ruled-out using). Regardless, the files will still need to be
> copied from the TTS provider’s site to the cache host before they get
> deleted. THIS process is what I’m wanting to resolve.
>
> -David Schwartz
>
>
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Re: TDD w/ Python, ch 9

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

I'm not sure about web hosting. But as for domain names, I use Google
Domains, it's $12 for a year.


On Wed, Jan 25, 2023, 7:53 AM trent shipley via PLUG-discuss <
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> I'm on the bench with my employer asd studying test driven development
> using Harry Precival's Test-Driven Development with Python.  Percival uses
> a simple web site on Django as the practice or example project.  In chapter
> 9 the baby website gets put on a real hosted web server.  It needs to be an
> olde fashioned service where you have the freedom to do a lot of admin
> work.  That is, you need to have enough rope to hang yourself.  I also need
> a domain name and  two sub-domain names.  Price is important.  I will
> probably finish the tutorial book and throw the site away instead of
> keeping it as a personal website.
>
> Has anyone got any suggestions for where to get a domain name and a
> hosting service?
>
>
> Trent
>
>
>
>
> *Choosing Where to Host Our Site*
>
> There are loads of different solutions out there these days, but they
> broadly fall into two camps:
>
>
>- Running your own (possibly virtual) server
>- Using a Platform-As-A-Service (PaaS) offering like Heroku,
>OpenShift, or PythonAnywhere
>
>
> Particularly for small sites, a PaaS offers a lot of advantages, and I
> would definitely recommend looking into them. We’re not going to use a PaaS
> in this book however, for several reasons. Firstly, I have a conflict of
> interest, in that I think PythonAnywhere is the best, but then again I
> would say that because I work there. Secondly, all the PaaS offerings are
> quite different, and the procedures to deploy to each vary a lot — learning
> about one doesn’t necessarily tell you about the others. Any one of them
> might radically change their process or business model by the time you get
> to read this book.
>
> Instead, we’ll learn just a tiny bit of good old-fashioned server admin,
> including SSH and web server config. They’re unlikely to ever go away, and
> knowing a bit about them will get you some respect from all the grizzled
> dinosaurs out there.
>
> What I have done is to try to set up a server in such a way that’s a bit
> like the environment you get from a PaaS, so you should be able to apply
> the lessons
>
> Percival, Harry. Test-Driven Development with Python (pp. 263-264).
> O'Reilly Media. Kindle Edition.   (2017)
>
> Or free at: https://www.obeythetestinggoat.com/pages/book.html
>
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Re: sudo cd... command not found?

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

Here's a question System V or BSD ? lol
When I started using Unix (Dec Ultrix) there was no bash, there was sh and
csh and I could do so much more in csh.
The thing I liked most was command line completion.and cdpath which I could
type cd bin and change to /usr/local/bin instead of /bin or which ever way
I set up cdpath. Also aliases (are you seeing I don't like to type ?) lol

I prefer csh thus tcsh, but I use both and whatever fits the job, I like
faster easier. After yeas I carried around a floppy with my .cshrc file
because I had so many aliases, it slowed me down if they weren't available.
lol, now a days bash has much of the same features so I think it's tomato
tomahto. one thing I never understood with sh, is why did they use the word
export, set and setenv seems much more logical.
This link has a good explanation of some of the differences and history.
https://linuxhint.com/csh-vs-bash-nix-shells/

If I tell you I use perl are you going to ask why not python ?  lol
:-)


On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 11:04 AM Joe Neglia via PLUG-discuss <
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>  Slightly OT:  Bob, since you are using tcsh, you can probably answer a
> question I have had for decades: what is the reason for using tcsh (or, for
> that matter, any terminal other than the usual default of bash)?
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 10:49 AM Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> Lol, I have an alias for cd on my system, which uses chdir otherwise it
>> would loop.
>> I'm using tcsh. It turns out chdir is just a synonym for cd built into
>> tcsh.
>>
>> I knew What would happen if you did a sudo cd, but I was so focused on
>> finding another way to type in cd I completely forgot about it. Oops
>>
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Re: sudo cd... command not found?

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

Lol, I have an alias for cd on my system, which uses chdir otherwise it
would loop.
I'm using tcsh. It turns out chdir is just a synonym for cd built into tcsh.

I knew What would happen if you did a sudo cd, but I was so focused on
finding another way to type in cd I completely forgot about it. Oops



On Tue, Dec 20, 2022, 11:54 PM Rusty Carruth via PLUG-discuss <
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> Well, what exactly are you trying to do?  Even if you could do 'sudo cd
> directory', simply executing that command will result in NOTHING
> HAPPENING with respect to your next command.  Lets dig in to it at the
> end of the message, but for now trust me.
>
> Oh, and the shortest answer, the conclusion/solution, is at the end, so
> if your eyes start to glaze over as you read the below, jump to the bottom.
>
> First, see what the permissions on  is/are.  Try 'ls -ld '.
> If you get Permission denied, and path includes '/', then somewhere
> along the path (ha) your permissions don't let you do a directory
> listing.  If you see something like this:
>
>
> drwxrwxrw- 6 rusty rusty 4096 Dec 19 16:22 
>
>
> and you are not rusty nor in group rusty, then you can't do a directory
> listing of 
>
>
> (That (missing!) 'x' there is the key to your (not) being able to see
> the contents.  It enables 'search' for directories, which is what you
> need to be able to see in to, or cd into, the directory)
>
>
> If any directory on the  does not have x set for you, then you
> can't see in to it and get permission denied.
>
>
> Now, why are both 'sudo cd foo' and 'sudo chdir foo' totally useless?
> (even if you COULD do it!  Which you can't!  See below the below for
> news about 'chdir')
>
>
> Well, when you type 'sudo' and are successful (to perhaps muddy the
> water a bit - which is to say you have permission to run a command as
> root using sudo), the shell starts a NEW shell, running as root, which
> executes your command and then, when that command completes exits back
> to the shell which started it.  So, let's say your shell's PID is 123.
> You type sudo cd foo, the shell starts a NEW shell,say PID 321, which
> does the cd and then exits back to the shell that started it, PID 123.
> Where the 'current working directory is still wherever you were before
> you typed 'cd'!
>
> A lot of typing and process running to do absolutely nothing!
>
>
> However, 'chdir' is not a command at all.  Try it:
>
> === shell interaction begins
>
> Tue Dec 20 23:19:09 RustyC ~/class $ chdir foo
>
> Command 'chdir' not found, did you mean:
>
>command 'hdir' from deb hfsutils (3.2.6-14)
>command 'cdir' from deb cdtool (2.1.8-release-7)
>
> Try: sudo apt install 
>
> Tue Dec 20 23:19:35 RustyC ~/class $
>
> === shell interaction ends
>
> (cdtool has a 'cdir', but it 'lists information about the currently
> loaded audio compact disc', doing nothing w.r.t. current working dir)
>
> Nope, all you get is 'cd', which as they say, is a shell builtin.  Now,
> WHY is it a shell builtin?  Because your 'current working directory' is
> *set* and *maintained* by the shell. Changing directory inside a program
> will not affect the 'current working directory' of the shell that
> started the program (unless there happens to be a hook in bash you can
> call from your program, which is possible, I suppose, but I've never
> heard of it.  And, no chdir(2) does not, I believe, affect the shell
> which started the process which called chdir).
>
>
> Now, let's keep beating this dead horse, shall we?
>
>
> Back to the original question, and the meta-question above it, which is
> sort of 'how should I debug this sort of thing?'
>
> The first huge hint is 'permission denied'.  This means that the user
> executing the command does not have (file system) permission to do
> whatever it is they tried to do (I'm speaking here of when a command is
> doing something w.r.t. a file.  Doing 'sudo ' and getting 'Permission
> denied' does not have anything (really) to do with file permissions, so
> isn't involved here).
>
> So, how do you debug this?  The first thing you should do is a long
> directory listing of the file that complained (always use 'ls -ld' for
> this).  If that gets permission denied, then remove the last 'thing' in
> the path and re-do the ls -ld.  Inspect the permissions (the rwxrwxrwx
> things) and the owner/group.  If you are the owner, then look at the
> first 3 permission bits.  If you are NOT the owner, but you are IN the
> group, look at the next 3. If  you are neither the owner nor IN the
> group that owns the file, then look at the last 3. To change in to a
> directory you need execute permissions (you can, in fact, 'cd' into a
> directory that you do not have read permissions to!  But, of course, you
> can't see anything in it!  Try it. 'mkdir foo;chmod 100 foo;cd foo;ls -l').
>
>
> So, after much ado, we have finally come to the conclusion that some
> directory in 'path' does not have the 'x' permission for you set.
>
> Fix that, you be

Re: sudo cd... command not found?

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

Try. Sudo chdir 

Cd is builtin to the shell


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>
>
> Hi,
>
> Not sure what is going on here:
>
> cd  results in message "-bash: cd:  : Permission denied".
>
> Then I add sudo : sudo  cd  results in message  :  "sudo: cd:
> command not found".
>
> Any help is much appreciated!!
>
> Keith
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Re: Special-Use Domain 'home.arpa.'

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

What I did for mydomain.net I set up imydomain.net

The i stands for internal



On Wed, Nov 23, 2022, 12:53 PM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss <
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> General rule of thumb is not to spoof real domains, as you'll break anyone
> using it elsewise, just about anything else is open game.  I can make a tld
> domain, .xyz (assuming this isn't a free-form tld now), and so long as
> things point at that naturally (like an internal resolver), it will pretend
> to be authoritative even if not.  I've had customers run internal dns under
> AD with something random as their domain, it works so long as everything
> using the domain knows to point internally first.
>
> What I do is use my domain, butash.net, and create an internal subdomain
> off it, internal.butash.net or like, and put all my home/lab stuff under
> that as my internal dns knows to put a ns record for the subdomain to
> itself, otherwise go out to public.  No one is the wiser generally, and my
> needs are met.  Recommend the same.
>
> -mb
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 12:19 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> I looked into this topic a while back and it’s a bit of a quagmire.
>>
>> The general concensus I found was to use .local as your TLD as it has
>> been reserved for that purpose. There are a few more, like .test, but .dev
>> is a legitimate TLD run by Google.
>>
>> I’ve talked with several people who set up their own DNS server on their
>> intranet to respond to their own TLD so you don’t need to use the hosts
>> file on every machine. I think most companies with multiple layers of
>> firewalls take that approach because it won’t resolve the URLs across the
>> firewall — public DNS will always return an error on the lookups.
>>
>> -David Schwartz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 23, 2022, at 9:26 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As you know I am building a "home office" lab for PHP development and
>> testing.  I was not satisfied with the research I completed on
>> "non-routeable" domains for a private network made up of "non-routeable"
>> domains.
>>
>> In the distant past I used to use .dev for the TLD.  From what I am
>> reading this is not a good idea.
>>
>> According to https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8375.html
>> 
>> one should use "home.arpa.".  They add a period to the end which I assume
>> is the DNS domain name stop character when used in zone files.  Any
>> thoughts?
>>
>> I will not be using DNS.  My needs are so simple I will be adding the IP
>> and domain name in my host file, at least for now.
>>
>> I've read a lot about this subject.  Some say to use a registered domain
>> with a subdomain that is on a private IP. I really do not want to commingle
>> public and private assets on the same domain.
>>
>> Any feedback is much appreciated!!
>>
>> Thanks!!
>> Keith
>>
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Re: Special-Use Domain 'home.arpa.'

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

If you're going to use the host file then you'll have to copy it to every
machine you have every time you update it.
As far as the domain name goes, you can use anything you want, .com .gov
.myown The only problem you'll have is if it is already being used which
would cause a conflict.
As long as it's an internal network you can call it anything you want.
I'm not sure what you mean by non- routable domain, you set up the routing
so that's what determines if a network is routable or not
Using an internal IP 10. 192.168. is what prevents people on the outside
from getting in.

Setting up the DNS is not that hard and then just pointing your DHCP server
to it simplifies the whole thing.


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>
>
> Hi,
>
> As you know I am building a "home office" lab for PHP development and
> testing.  I was not satisfied with the research I completed on
> "non-routeable" domains for a private network made up of "non-routeable"
> domains.
>
> In the distant past I used to use .dev for the TLD.  From what I am
> reading this is not a good idea.
>
> According to https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8375.html one should use
> "home.arpa.".  They add a period to the end which I assume is the DNS
> domain name stop character when used in zone files.  Any thoughts?
>
> I will not be using DNS.  My needs are so simple I will be adding the IP
> and domain name in my host file, at least for now.
>
> I've read a lot about this subject.  Some say to use a registered domain
> with a subdomain that is on a private IP. I really do not want to
> commingle public and private assets on the same domain.
>
> Any feedback is much appreciated!!
>
> Thanks!!
> Keith
>
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Re: VirtualBox Update 11/15/22

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

Run the command  route -n
and check the gateway IP,  it should be pointing to your Internet router.

Check on your real machine and on the VM

Then check on the VM machine when you're running in NAT mode

I'm curious how the NAT mode gets out

In bridged mode, both machines should point to the Internet router




On Wed, Nov 16, 2022, 7:15 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
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> On 2022-11-15 22:09, Nathan O'Brennan via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> > Keith,
> > I'm stretching here...
> >
> > Sounds to me like the firewall may be causing issues with the bridge,
> > or maybe ip forwarding is not enabled? Try turning off the firewall
> > completely and see if there is a difference? I think Ubuntu uses ufw?
>
> Definitely something is blocking access to the internet when in bridged
> mode.  I checked ufw and it was disabled.  I'll check again.
>
> Thanks!!
>
>
> > So try
> > sudo ufw stop
> >
> > or
> >
> > sudo ufw disable
> > Then reboot.
> > You can also try ip forwarding
> > sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
> > I don't think you need to reboot after this as it happens immediately.
> > Try this before and after the firewall disable.
> >
> > On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 8:19:21 PM CST Keith Smith via
> > PLUG-discuss wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >
> >>
> >
> >> I uninstalled VirtualBox 7.0 that I installed from a .deb I
> > dowloaded
> >
> >> from the website on my Kubuntu 22.04 box.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> I installed VB through the use of the GUI.  It was version 6.1.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Installed Ubuntu server 20.04 and set the network to bridged.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Problem persists.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Broke out my Win 10 laptop and installed VB on it.  Created a Ubuntu
> >
> >
> >> 20.04 VM and change the network to Bridged and it worked.  I could
> > ping
> >
> >> it from my win box on my local net and the Ubuntu VM was Internet
> > aware.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Not sure what this proves other than the install and configure
> > should be
> >
> >> an easy process.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Something is not right on my Kubuntu/VB/Ubuntu server setup.  The
> >
> >> Kubuntu seems to be blocking the VM from accessing the Internet.
> > Any
> >
> >> thoughts are much appreciated.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Keith
> >
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Re: VirtualBox Update 11/15/22

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

If you're using DHCP to get your IP address who's giving it out and what
are the IP addresses?

If you're local IP address was 192, where did the 10 address come from?


On Tue, Nov 15, 2022, 7:19 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
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>
>
> Hi,
>
> I uninstalled VirtualBox 7.0 that I installed from a .deb I dowloaded
> from the website on my Kubuntu 22.04 box.
>
> I installed VB through the use of the GUI.  It was version 6.1.
>
> Installed Ubuntu server 20.04 and set the network to bridged.
>
> Problem persists.
>
> Broke out my Win 10 laptop and installed VB on it.  Created a Ubuntu
> 20.04 VM and change the network to Bridged and it worked.  I could ping
> it from my win box on my local net and the Ubuntu VM was Internet aware.
>
> Not sure what this proves other than the install and configure should be
> an easy process.
>
> Something is not right on my Kubuntu/VB/Ubuntu server setup.  The
> Kubuntu seems to be blocking the VM from accessing the Internet.  Any
> thoughts are much appreciated.
>
> Keith
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Re: Oracle's VirtualBox RANT

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

This sounds more like a network problem than a virtual box problem.
When I set up my virtual machines I use bridged networking and let DHCP
give out the address it should also tell the virtual machine the route to
the internet.

What IP address are you getting when you have access to the internet, and
what address do you get when you're connected to the local network?

This just sounds like a routing issue



On Tue, Nov 15, 2022, 7:42 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
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>
>
> Hi,
>
> As you probably know I am struggling to configure Oracle's VirtualBox
> for web development testing.
>
> VirtualBox is a mess.  I cannot get it to work for PHP testing.  It will
> either work external so I can build the server OR I can make it visible
> to my local net and I am not able to pull in any packages.
>
> My expectation was that I could download and install VB then create a
> guest instance and configure my VM as I like, and in my case I want to
> have it have an IP on my local private network, and be able to put that
> IP in my browser and do some testing.
>
> VirtualBox in my opinion is what is wrong with technology.  I've said it
> before and I'll say it again, technology has become too difficult.  Case
> in point, last year I configured a full-stack host in my home office.
> This was complete with BIND, Postfix, and Dovecot.  With a little
> studying Bind is doable. Postfix, and Dovecot on the other hand are
> total enigmas.  I probably need to spend 30 or 40 hours to understand
> setting up and configuring Postfix, and Dovecot.
>
> I was able to get things to work, however I still do not know how.
>
> PHP is the same in my opinion.  To be a PHP dev requires a large stack
> of technologies.  I'm starting to feel the barrier to entry is too high.
>   About 3 years ago I attended several AzPHP meetings and I was amazed to
> discover that the top programmers actually were embracing this level of
> complexity. There was one guy,who is accomplished, that actually looked
> down on anyone who was not at his level.  Yikes!!
>
> I'm talking about things like Composer and dependency injection.  Anyone
> know there is three ways to configure and use dependency injection.  I
> do not recall all 3 off the top of my head.
>
> CodeIgniter 1 and 2 used dependency injection in a way that hid the
> complexities of dependency injection.  It was so subtle that you don't
> even know you are implementing dependency injection.
>
> I really liked CodeIgniter 1 and 2.  It hid the complexities of web
> development and was the closest thing I've seen in web development that
> was rapid application development (RAD).
>
> One of the things I really liked about CodeIgniter  was it's simplicity.
>   A middle school kid could learn enough about it in a weekend to start
> building something.
>
> Back to VirtualBox... It is entirely too complicated and I'm not sure
> why.  Can anyone shed light on this?
>
> I read that everyone should learn how to program.  Why?  Programming
> itself is simple... doing anything remotely useful requires you get down
> into the mud of the complexities of building an application.
>
> I fell in love with programming at the UofA in 1983.  I feel in love
> with Linux in 1998 when a friend told me about it. Yes I'm old. And I've
> seen a lot.
>
> What was VirtualBox created for and does it need to be so complex?
>
> Keith
>
>
>
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Re: Cheap Laptop

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

I'd say STAY AWAY from it

About Windows 11 in S mode

Windows 11 in S mode is a version of Windows 11 that's streamlined for
security and performance, while providing a familiar Windows experience. To
increase security, it allows only apps from Microsoft Store, and requires
Microsoft Edge for safe browsing.

It's a crippled system !!!


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> Hi,
>
> I was bebopping through the web and I saw this Gateway laptop on sale at
> Amazon:
>
>
> Gateway 15.6" Ultra Slim Notebook with Carrying Case & Wireless Mouse,
> FHD, Intel® Core™ i3-1115G4, Dual Core, 4GB Memory, 128GB SSD, Tuned by
> THX™ Audio, 1.0MP Webcam, HDMI, Cortana, Windows 11 S
>
> Now $179.00
> was $445.00
>
>
>
> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Gateway-15-6-Ultra-Slim-Notebook-Carrying-Case-Wireless-Mouse-FHD-Intel-Core-i3-1115G4-Dual-Core-4GB-Memory-128GB-SSD-Tuned-THX-Audio-1-0MP-Webcam-HD/996759914?athbdg=L1800
>
> Nice!!
>
> Keith
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Re: Proxmox Hypervisor, vCPU, RAM... etc

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

I believe it is 1 core has 2 threads. So cores x 2 = thread
So (2 x 2) x 1 = 4 vCpus


On Fri, Oct 7, 2022, 4:35 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
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>
> Hi,
>
> I just watched a video that covered the Proxmox Hypervisor.  Seems
> simple enough.  I've used Oracle's VirtualBox for years.
>
> So I did some research on what a vCPU is.  I was suppressed.  The math
> given was (Threads x Cores) x Physical CPU = Number vCPU.
>
> I have an old laptop that has 1 socket, 2 cores, four threads, and 4GB
> of RAM.
>
> Given the math (4 x 2) x 1 = 8 vCPUS.  Is this correct?
>
>  From my reading it appears that RAM is not shared, so my bottleneck is
> RAM not cores or threads.
>
> I am a PHP developer and a local vps would need 2GB of RAM at a minimum.
>   I have found a LAMP VPS will crash if allocated less than 2GB of RAM,
> and will run will on 1 vCPU.
>
> The good news is I really only need one VPS to be active at any given
> time.
>
> If I wanted to build a box that could run more than one VPS at a time,
> lets say 4, and I wanted to allocate 2 vCPUs and 4GB of RAM I would need
> 4 threads x 2 cores to run the 4 VPS configured with 2 vCPUs each.
>
> What about RAM.  Looks like I would need a minimum of 16GB of ram.
>
> How much resources does the Hypervisor need, in this case Proxmox?
>
> Thanks!!
> Keith
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Re: T-Mobile Home Internet via ethernet connection tip

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

Ok, that makes more sense now

On Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 11:43 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> I have exactly two Mac Minis and a switch — all of which have 1 gig
> ethernet ports, and CAT6 cables.
>
> I also plugged my Mac Book Pro directly into the gateway with a USB3 —>
> 1GB ethernet adapter on a 12” CAT6 cable and it maxed-out at 92 Mbps.
>
> They ALL hit OVER 150 Mbps with the same ethernet cable plugged into the
> RE550 rather than the T-Mo gateway. If anything on that wire were limited
> to 100 megs, then there’s no way I’d get 150+ or 750+ Mbps through the
> RE550.
>
> FWIW, I made the mistake of ordering another device that had AC1200 WiFi
> but the description SAID “high-speed ethernet” but never said it was 1GB.
> When I got it and set it up, guess what I found? Same hardware on my end
> only got 92 Mbps through that device! I did some digging and found out the
> manufacturer makes it really hard to find out that their “high-speed
> ethernet” port is in fact a 100 Mbps port, NOT 1GB. (Plenty of others call
> their “N300” WiFi “high-speed WiFi as well”. Go figure.) I sent it back and
> got the RE550 because it clearly states it DOES have a 1GB ethernet port.
>
> Again, the fact that I can get OVER 150 Mbps from the ethernet wire
> plugged into the RE550 but only 92 Mbps with the same ethernet wire plugged
> into the T-Mo gateway is pretty telling.
>
> It’s NOT my hardware.
>
> -David Schwartz
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 18, 2022, at 11:08 PM, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
> I don't know the path you're taking to test the speed, but if one of the
> devices on that path is 100. Meg and the modem is one gig. Then you only
> going to get 100 Meg when you test the speed. Try doing the trace route
> when you do the test so you know which cards are being used.
>
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 9:49 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> I wouldn’t be getting 700 Mbps with the WAP/Range Extender then (insted
>> of 92), would I?
>>
>> -David Schwartz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 18, 2022, at 9:40 PM, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>> Are you sure it's not your nic or a switch on your network that's 100mb ?
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 8:57 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I dunno if anybody here has T-Mobile Home Internet, but I do and I
>>> really like it. I only have one beef: the spec sheet for their
>>> modem/gateway says it has 2x 1 gigabit ethernet ports, but they’re only 100
>>> Megs. In case anybody else might want to consider them as an ISP and has a
>>> 1GB LAN to connect, I’ve solved the speed dilemma.
>>>
>>> First off, I’ve been round and round with their tech support folks lying
>>> about it for two years, and was recently told that they were going to be
>>> releasing a new device soon and it def. WOULD have 1 Gb ports.
>>>
>>> Well, they announced a new one (two, actually), and I got one and … once
>>> again the spec sheet SAYS 1 gigabit ethernet but the performance says nope
>>> — it’s still only 100 megs. WTF? I guess this lets them shave a couple of
>>> bucks off of the hardware cost. Actually, I’m not even sure why they bother
>>> to include the slow ethernet ports at all.
>>>
>>> (In a way this is really quite amusing, because prior to this, most
>>> modem/gateways have crappy WiFi and speedy ethernet — especially those from
>>> Cox and CenturyLink.)
>>>
>>> I don’t know how a big company like T-Mo gets away misrepresenting a
>>> product like this for so long. Why can’t they just SAY they’re 100 meg
>>> ethernet ports?
>>>
>>> Anyway, I finally got fed-up and bought a TP-Link RE550 AC1900 WAP/Range
>>> Extender and configured it so I can plug my local 1 GB ethernet LAN wire
>>> into it and connect to the T-Mo gateway via WiFi.
>>>
>>> To be sure, the T-Mo gateway’s WiFi is FAST! I’ve seen speeds up to 870
>>> Mbps. The ethernet, OTOH, never exceeds 93 Mbps.
>>>
>>> With the RE550 plugged in, my Mac minis connected to the LAN now get 750
>>> Mbps DL and 78 Mbps UL. WHOA! That’s 5x DL and 2x UL faster than I got via
>>> the wired connection. (Actually, the newer 2018 Mac Mini gets that; the
>>> older one from 2014 only gets 180 Mbps DL and 65 Mbps UL.)
>>>
>>> And in case anybody is wonder

Re: T-Mobile Home Internet via ethernet connection tip

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

I don't know the path you're taking to test the speed, but if one of the
devices on that path is 100. Meg and the modem is one gig. Then you only
going to get 100 Meg when you test the speed. Try doing the trace route
when you do the test so you know which cards are being used.

On Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 9:49 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> I wouldn’t be getting 700 Mbps with the WAP/Range Extender then (insted of
> 92), would I?
>
> -David Schwartz
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 18, 2022, at 9:40 PM, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
> Are you sure it's not your nic or a switch on your network that's 100mb ?
>
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 8:57 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> I dunno if anybody here has T-Mobile Home Internet, but I do and I really
>> like it. I only have one beef: the spec sheet for their modem/gateway says
>> it has 2x 1 gigabit ethernet ports, but they’re only 100 Megs. In case
>> anybody else might want to consider them as an ISP and has a 1GB LAN to
>> connect, I’ve solved the speed dilemma.
>>
>> First off, I’ve been round and round with their tech support folks lying
>> about it for two years, and was recently told that they were going to be
>> releasing a new device soon and it def. WOULD have 1 Gb ports.
>>
>> Well, they announced a new one (two, actually), and I got one and … once
>> again the spec sheet SAYS 1 gigabit ethernet but the performance says nope
>> — it’s still only 100 megs. WTF? I guess this lets them shave a couple of
>> bucks off of the hardware cost. Actually, I’m not even sure why they bother
>> to include the slow ethernet ports at all.
>>
>> (In a way this is really quite amusing, because prior to this, most
>> modem/gateways have crappy WiFi and speedy ethernet — especially those from
>> Cox and CenturyLink.)
>>
>> I don’t know how a big company like T-Mo gets away misrepresenting a
>> product like this for so long. Why can’t they just SAY they’re 100 meg
>> ethernet ports?
>>
>> Anyway, I finally got fed-up and bought a TP-Link RE550 AC1900 WAP/Range
>> Extender and configured it so I can plug my local 1 GB ethernet LAN wire
>> into it and connect to the T-Mo gateway via WiFi.
>>
>> To be sure, the T-Mo gateway’s WiFi is FAST! I’ve seen speeds up to 870
>> Mbps. The ethernet, OTOH, never exceeds 93 Mbps.
>>
>> With the RE550 plugged in, my Mac minis connected to the LAN now get 750
>> Mbps DL and 78 Mbps UL. WHOA! That’s 5x DL and 2x UL faster than I got via
>> the wired connection. (Actually, the newer 2018 Mac Mini gets that; the
>> older one from 2014 only gets 180 Mbps DL and 65 Mbps UL.)
>>
>> And in case anybody is wondering why I use a wired LAN, it’s so the two
>> Mac Minis can talk. I have the new one configured so I can access the old
>> one via Screen Sharing on a dedicated Space (virtual desktop). When I do
>> that over WiFi, the connection is intolerably slow for me; but with the
>> wired connection, it’s quite reasonable.
>>
>> BTW, I dropped Cox a couple of years back and cut my monthly TV +
>> Internet bill by quite a bit by switching to T-Mo’s Home Internet ($50/mo)
>> and a couple of internet channels (Discovery+ and Philo).
>>
>> T-Mo’s Home Internet has been far more stable, consistently faster, and
>> has fewer dropouts than any other ISP I’ve ever used. I highly recommend
>> it. Just … if you need to connect a wired LAN, get something like a fast
>> WAP/Range Extender to act as a LAN-to-WiFi bridge.
>>
>> -David Schwartz
>>
>>
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Re: T-Mobile Home Internet via ethernet connection tip

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

Are you sure it's not your nic or a switch on your network that's 100mb ?

On Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 8:57 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> I dunno if anybody here has T-Mobile Home Internet, but I do and I really
> like it. I only have one beef: the spec sheet for their modem/gateway says
> it has 2x 1 gigabit ethernet ports, but they’re only 100 Megs. In case
> anybody else might want to consider them as an ISP and has a 1GB LAN to
> connect, I’ve solved the speed dilemma.
>
> First off, I’ve been round and round with their tech support folks lying
> about it for two years, and was recently told that they were going to be
> releasing a new device soon and it def. WOULD have 1 Gb ports.
>
> Well, they announced a new one (two, actually), and I got one and … once
> again the spec sheet SAYS 1 gigabit ethernet but the performance says nope
> — it’s still only 100 megs. WTF? I guess this lets them shave a couple of
> bucks off of the hardware cost. Actually, I’m not even sure why they bother
> to include the slow ethernet ports at all.
>
> (In a way this is really quite amusing, because prior to this, most
> modem/gateways have crappy WiFi and speedy ethernet — especially those from
> Cox and CenturyLink.)
>
> I don’t know how a big company like T-Mo gets away misrepresenting a
> product like this for so long. Why can’t they just SAY they’re 100 meg
> ethernet ports?
>
> Anyway, I finally got fed-up and bought a TP-Link RE550 AC1900 WAP/Range
> Extender and configured it so I can plug my local 1 GB ethernet LAN wire
> into it and connect to the T-Mo gateway via WiFi.
>
> To be sure, the T-Mo gateway’s WiFi is FAST! I’ve seen speeds up to 870
> Mbps. The ethernet, OTOH, never exceeds 93 Mbps.
>
> With the RE550 plugged in, my Mac minis connected to the LAN now get 750
> Mbps DL and 78 Mbps UL. WHOA! That’s 5x DL and 2x UL faster than I got via
> the wired connection. (Actually, the newer 2018 Mac Mini gets that; the
> older one from 2014 only gets 180 Mbps DL and 65 Mbps UL.)
>
> And in case anybody is wondering why I use a wired LAN, it’s so the two
> Mac Minis can talk. I have the new one configured so I can access the old
> one via Screen Sharing on a dedicated Space (virtual desktop). When I do
> that over WiFi, the connection is intolerably slow for me; but with the
> wired connection, it’s quite reasonable.
>
> BTW, I dropped Cox a couple of years back and cut my monthly TV + Internet
> bill by quite a bit by switching to T-Mo’s Home Internet ($50/mo) and a
> couple of internet channels (Discovery+ and Philo).
>
> T-Mo’s Home Internet has been far more stable, consistently faster, and
> has fewer dropouts than any other ISP I’ve ever used. I highly recommend
> it. Just … if you need to connect a wired LAN, get something like a fast
> WAP/Range Extender to act as a LAN-to-WiFi bridge.
>
> -David Schwartz
>
>
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Re: Need help speeding up a backup

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

I don't know why your copy is slow, but I know how to make it take less
time.
I think you are defeating the purpose of rsync, you are creating a new
directory every time, which means it needs to copy everything every time.

What I do is do an rsync -rau --delete  from the directory I want to copy
to the same place every time
i.e.  rsync -rau --delete  excludedirs fromdir todir
rsync is smart enough to only do copies of files that changed, your command
is copying some files that never change or change very few times.
Doing it to the same place makes the sync go much faster.

After the sync, I then do a tar czf output-daily-todaysdate-time.tgz
./directorytosave

then I do a find  output-daily*  and delete the older ones after so many
days

I also use fsarchiver  to make a copy of my system partition (it does copy
everything)


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> On 2022-07-15 08:40, Mark Phillips via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> > I am trying to back up the contents of the drives (ie /) to an
> > external usb drive using rsync. It is taking a really long time.
> > After 26 hours of continuous operation I have only transferred
> > 138 GB out of 2+ TB
>
> 1G takes about 11.3 minutes?  That's super slow.  1G takes about 30
> seconds on a USB2 external disk here.  How is this mounted?
>
> > rsync  --no-compress --info=progress2 -avAXEWSlHh --exclude=
> > {'/run','/mnt','/swapfile','/boot','/dev','/proc','/sys',
> > '/run','/mnt','/media','/lost+found','/swapfile.extended','/tmp'}
> > / '/media/mark/Seagate Portable Drive/tsunami-backups-Jul_13_17-39/'
> > Any suggestions on how I can speed this up and not lose any data?
>
> You don't need -AX unless you're using ACLs and xattrs, and you
> probably aren't.  You probably don't want -W.  -H is IIRC heavyweight
> and you probably don't have many (or any) hard links on your
> filesystems.  The path to the backup disk looks like an automounter is
> involved, that can cause dumb things like being mounted with sync.
>
> First suggestion, just use -av .  Second suggestion, instead of trying
> to back up everything, back up only the irreplaceable stuff.  This is
> usually /home and /etc , maybe /usr/local .  When rsyncing a lot of
> stuff (800G not 2T though), a significant amount of time gets spent
> stat()ing every single file and dir on both source and destination.  How
> many files are you dealing with?  /home here has 272G and 711889 inodes
> according to df -i.  An initial sync would take roughly 136 minutes,
> subsequent syncs would take roughly 4 minutes.  That's what I recall
> from the last time I used rsync to backup.
>
> While it's written in Golang and therefore suspect, restic (
> https://restic.github.io/ ) has an interesting feature that allows you
> to retain a varying number of hourly, daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly
> snapshots of whatever it is you want to back up.  The documentation
> about how to get to a specific restore point is not great, and the
> "mount restore point" functionality horks up directory permissions.
> However, it's quite fast at backing up stuff, and it can use S3 buckets
> and some other not-your-computer networky things instead of local disks
> as backup destinations.
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Re: flv to ogg

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 about the raw video option not being able to play with that 
>>>>>> file
>>>>>> format. Hm. I suppose mov would work. No?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 9:37 PM Snyder, Alexander J <
>>>>>> alexan...@snyderfamily.co> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No. The "mp" in "mp4" stands for Moving Picture Experts Group
>>>>>>> (MPEG), which implies MPEG compression (*MPEG-4 Part 14*,
>>>>>>> specifically).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Compression here is the opposite of what you're trying to achieve.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Alexander
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S22+
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2022, 15:06 Michael via PLUG-discuss <
>>>>>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ffmpeg -i input.mp4 -vcodec rawvideo -pix_fmt bgr24 output.avi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> should be the one. but would
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ffmpeg -i input.flv -vcodec rawvideo -pix_fmt bgr24 output.mp4
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> give me a conversion from flv (the original format) to mp4 with just a 
>>>>>>>> stream of pictures like we want?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 4:47 PM Michael  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> would this work?
>>>>>>>>> https://www.quora.com/How-can-you-decompress-a-video-file-in-FFmpeg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 4:40 PM Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss <
>>>>>>>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OK, the file you are trying to convert is already as small as it
>>>>>>>>>> is going to get.This from fileinfo.com:  Before 2007, OGG
>>>>>>>>>> files were used to store various types of media, but since then the
>>>>>>>>>> Xiph.Org Foundation recommends that OGG files store only audio data. 
>>>>>>>>>> Now,
>>>>>>>>>> you will most likely encounter only OGG files that store audio data
>>>>>>>>>> compressed with Vorbis compression.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Since the file is already compressed the reason for your
>>>>>>>>>> stuttering is that the player is trying to uncompress while playing 
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> appears not to be powerful enough to do it smoothly.  I think what 
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> should be doing is uncompressing the file into its full uncompressed 
>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>> size, then the video player doesn't have to do the work any more. The
>>>>>>>>>> actual uncompress work would be done by ffmpeg which will probably 
>>>>>>>>>> take a
>>>>>>>>>> long time. Changing the scale might help, but trying to reconvert it 
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> another format is just going to make it bigger every time and 
>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>>> still stutter.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Since I've never tried to uncompress a video file, I don't know
>>>>>>>>>> what the settings would be.  You have to do some googling to find 
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> ffmpeg uncompress video
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 11:56 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
>>>>>>>>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Okay these are the questions I will have concerning
>>>>>>>>>>> converting my flv to ogg while scaling the resolution.
>>>>>>>>>>> Is it as simple as stating:
>>>>>>>>>>> ffmpeg .flv -vf scale=-1:720 .ogg
>>>>>>>>>>> ?
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Re: flv to ogg

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

OK, the file you are trying to convert is already as small as it is going
to get.This from fileinfo.com:  Before 2007, OGG files were used to
store various types of media, but since then the Xiph.Org Foundation
recommends that OGG files store only audio data. Now, you will most likely
encounter only OGG files that store audio data compressed with Vorbis
compression.

Since the file is already compressed the reason for your stuttering is that
the player is trying to uncompress while playing and appears not to be
powerful enough to do it smoothly.  I think what you should be doing is
uncompressing the file into its full uncompressed file size, then the video
player doesn't have to do the work any more. The actual uncompress work
would be done by ffmpeg which will probably take a long time. Changing the
scale might help, but trying to reconvert it to another format is just
going to make it bigger every time and probably still stutter.

Since I've never tried to uncompress a video file, I don't know what the
settings would be.  You have to do some googling to find that  ffmpeg
uncompress video

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> Okay these are the questions I will have concerning converting my flv
> to ogg while scaling the resolution.
> Is it as simple as stating:
> ffmpeg .flv -vf scale=-1:720 .ogg
> ?
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Re: flv to mp4

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

add this to the ffmpeg command to scale to 720

-vf scale=-1:720

for 480
-vf scale=-1:480



On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 9:58 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
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> well, I searched the man page for 'resolution', '720' & '480' but to my
> uneducated view there was nothing appropriate.
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 3:00 AM Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> I will have to take a close look at the ffmpeg man page. I am sure there
>> is a command line switch that can select resolution size.
>>
>> -Eric
>> From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Multimedia recoding
>> dept.
>>
>>
>> On Apr 16, 2022, at 10:53 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>> I have been using ffmpeg. How do I set it up for 480 and also 720?
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 1:44 AM Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, there are some command line tools you can use like ffmpeg. Also,
>>> there is a linux version of Handbrake that can convert just about any
>>> video/audio streaming format to mp4. You can then set it up for either 480p
>>> or 720p depending on your machines display requirements.
>>>
>>> -Eric
>>> From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Multimedia Dept.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 2, 2022, at 5:35 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss <
>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, the default if removing -sameq produces something with a little
>>> better result but it is still to resource intensive for my puter. Is .mov a
>>> little more basic? (I can't figure out the man page)
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 2, 2022 at 7:04 PM Michael  wrote:
>>>
 I recorded a instruction session with someone today and my computer
 can't handle the video output. The sound is OK but the video plays in
 spurts and then it is just frozen. I looked up how to convert the .flv file
 to an .mp4 (ffmpeg -i filename.flv -sameq -ar 22050 filename.mp4) but
 would taking out the -sameq produce a lower quality video which might play
 on my weak machine? Should I put another option in? How would I create a
 lower quality video if just removing the -sameq option doesn't play?

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Re: NICs on a virtualization box

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Teaming makes multiple Nic's look like one and increases the bandwidth.

this ifcfg script will assign to ip's to one nic  192.168.1.8   and 10.1.1.8
TYPE=Ethernet
DEVICE=enp6s0
ONBOOT=yes
IPADDR=192.168.1.8
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
GATEWAY=192.168.1.1
DNS1=192.168.1.1
PREFIX=24
DEFROUTE=yes
IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL=no
NAME="System enp6s0"
BOOTPROTO=none
IPADDR1=10.1.1.8
PREFIX1=16
NETMASK1=255.255.0.0

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 8:59 AM greg zegan via PLUG-discuss <
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> yes
> NIC teaming?
>
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022, 08:58:00 AM MST, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>
> I know you can assign multiple IP's to one Nic, but I don't know how each
> VPS can run a service on the same ports.
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 8:51 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
> I'm wondering how VPS servers are configured.  I have a VPS with a
> dedicated IP.  I assume I share a box that has a number of virtual
> machines and I assume each VPS has a dedicated IP.
>
> This is a hardware question.  I assume the box has at least 2 network
> cards.  So lets say the server has 20 VPS on it and each has a dedicated
> IP. Does the box need a NIC for each IP or does the box have NIC cards
> that can service/route multiple IPs?
>
> I have a Dell consumer grade mini tower computer with a single NIC which
> is built into the motherboard.  I assume that NIC can only service one
> IP address, is that correct or can I install virtualization software on
> this computer and use the NIC for multiple IP's?
>
> Did I just open a can of worms?
>
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Re: NICs on a virtualization box

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I know you can assign multiple IP's to one Nic, but I don't know how each
VPS can run a service on the same ports.

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>
> Hi,
> I'm wondering how VPS servers are configured.  I have a VPS with a
> dedicated IP.  I assume I share a box that has a number of virtual
> machines and I assume each VPS has a dedicated IP.
>
> This is a hardware question.  I assume the box has at least 2 network
> cards.  So lets say the server has 20 VPS on it and each has a dedicated
> IP. Does the box need a NIC for each IP or does the box have NIC cards
> that can service/route multiple IPs?
>
> I have a Dell consumer grade mini tower computer with a single NIC which
> is built into the motherboard.  I assume that NIC can only service one
> IP address, is that correct or can I install virtualization software on
> this computer and use the NIC for multiple IP's?
>
> Did I just open a can of worms?
>
> Thanks in advance for your wisdom.
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Re: convert to x264

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ffmpeg -i 2022-04-02 darktabletraining.flv -channel_layout 5.1 -c:v libx264
-vf yadif -crf 28 -force_key_frames "expr:gte(t,n_forced*4)"   -c:a aac
-b:a 192k -preset fast -strict experimental -loglevel warning -stats
 2022-04-02 darktabletraining.mp4

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> I get a couple of errors:
>
> michael@michael-desktop:~/Desktop/darktable training$ ffmpeg -i
> 2022-04-02\ darktabletraining.flv -channel_layout 5.1 -c:v libx264 -vf
> yadif -crf 28 -force_key_frames "expr:gte(t,n_forced*4)" -x264-params
> log-level=none  -c:a aac -b:a 192k -preset -preset fast -strict
> experimental -loglevel warning -stats  outfile.mp4
> [NULL @ 0x559f08654080] Unable to find a suitable output format for 'fast'
> fast: Invalid argument
>
> I noticed that there were two 'preset's so I removed the one with the fast
> argument and I got the second error:
>
> michael@michael-desktop:~/Desktop/darktable training$ ffmpeg -i
> 2022-04-02\ darktabletraining.flv -channel_layout 5.1 -c:v libx264 -vf
> yadif -crf 28 -force_key_frames "expr:gte(t,n_forced*4)" -x264-params
> log-level=none  -c:a aac -b:a 192k -preset -strict experimental -loglevel
> warning -stats  2022-04-02\ darktabletraining.ogg
> [NULL @ 0x56408b444040] Unable to find a suitable output format for
> 'experimental'
> experimental: Invalid argument
>
> And then decided that since I don't know what I'm doing I better ask
> before I blindly remove another command.
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Re: flv to ogg

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

I don't think there is any point in converting this file, it is already as
small as it is going to get. If you look at the file information it is
already encoded as x264 video and aac audio.   What problems do you have
playing this video ?

On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 10:13 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> found it!
> ffmpeg -i infile.mp4 -channel_layout 5.1 -c:v libx264 -vf yadif -crf 28
> -force_key_frames "expr:gte(t,n_forced*4)" -x264-params log-level=none
>  -c:a aac -b:a 192k -preset -preset fast -strict experimental -loglevel
> warning -stats  outfile.mp4
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 12:06 PM Michael  wrote:
>
>> Your sample command for conversion to x264 disappeared. Could you post it
>> again?
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 11:23 AM Michael  wrote:
>>
>>> when it finished converting to an ogg the size is 530MB but the video
>>> sucked though the audio was fine. could you send me the x264?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 11:14 AM Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss <
>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, I see a few issues here, first tell us again what problems you are
>>>> having trying to watch this video ?
>>>> To start with, while the viewing length is an hour and 23 minutes, the
>>>> size is only  171mb. When I record a tv show, a 1 hour show is 6GB,
>>>> depending on what channel I'm recording. The reason your video is so small
>>>> is because it is mostly static pictures there is not a lot of movement. So
>>>> because of that the recorder doesn't have a lot of work to do. When I
>>>> converted it to x264 the size when up from 171mb to 192mb and took me 3 and
>>>> a half minutes
>>>> When I pay your video I don't have any problems, but the sound is
>>>> terrible from the teacher, probably his mic, and near the end I hear a
>>>> clicking noise in a few places, but the video and audio does not stutter.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 11:54 AM Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss <
>>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sure!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Alexander
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S22+
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 11:32 Michael via PLUG-discuss <
>>>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> it is taking entirely too long. Are you still available to help?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nLCAf4DgbpIK_tq2qIH8n3CSfScl6y7L/view?usp=sharing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 11:02 AM Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss <
>>>>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you need help converting, like horsepower, I have a stupidly over
>>>>>>> powered desktop with an Nvidia RTX A5000. It's got muscle, if you need
>>>>>>> some.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Alexander
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S22+
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 07:53 Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss <
>>>>>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ok now try
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ffmpeg -i input.mp4 -codec:v libtheora -qscale:v 3 -codec:a libvorbis  
>>>>>>>> -qscale:a 3 -f ogv output.ogg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you might also want to try converting it to x264   just google convert 
>>>>>>>> video to ffmpeg x264
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 4:22 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
>>>>>>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> forgot to mention the ones that would not load
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 7:19 PM Michael  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I meant 1080 not 1099.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 7:16 PM Michael  wrote:
>>>

Re: flv to ogg

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

OK, I see a few issues here, first tell us again what problems you are
having trying to watch this video ?
To start with, while the viewing length is an hour and 23 minutes, the size
is only  171mb. When I record a tv show, a 1 hour show is 6GB, depending on
what channel I'm recording. The reason your video is so small is because it
is mostly static pictures there is not a lot of movement. So because of
that the recorder doesn't have a lot of work to do. When I converted it to
x264 the size when up from 171mb to 192mb and took me 3 and a half minutes
When I pay your video I don't have any problems, but the sound is terrible
from the teacher, probably his mic, and near the end I hear a clicking
noise in a few places, but the video and audio does not stutter.

On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 11:54 AM Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> Sure!
>
> Thanks,
> Alexander
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S22+
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 11:32 Michael via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> it is taking entirely too long. Are you still available to help?
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nLCAf4DgbpIK_tq2qIH8n3CSfScl6y7L/view?usp=sharing
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 11:02 AM Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> If you need help converting, like horsepower, I have a stupidly over
>>> powered desktop with an Nvidia RTX A5000. It's got muscle, if you need
>>> some.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alexander
>>>
>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S22+
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022, 07:53 Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss <
>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ok now try
>>>>
>>>> ffmpeg -i input.mp4 -codec:v libtheora -qscale:v 3 -codec:a libvorbis  
>>>> -qscale:a 3 -f ogv output.ogg
>>>>
>>>> you might also want to try converting it to x264   just google convert 
>>>> video to ffmpeg x264
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 4:22 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
>>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> forgot to mention the ones that would not load
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 7:19 PM Michael  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I meant 1080 not 1099.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 7:16 PM Michael  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did. Those ones stuttered. The other ones had 2 hour downloads.
>>>>>>> The 1099 ogg file stuttered.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 7:10 PM Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss <
>>>>>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would try the mp4 versions too
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022, 3:07 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
>>>>>>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After further investigation I found 720p_stereo.ogg
>>>>>>>>> <https://download.blender.org/peach/bigbuckbunny_movies/big_buck_bunny_720p_stereo.ogg>
>>>>>>>>> and 480p_stereo.ogg
>>>>>>>>> <https://download.blender.org/peach/bigbuckbunny_movies/big_buck_bunny_720p_stereo.ogg>
>>>>>>>>> work. So I need to convert it to one of those formats.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I assume you want me to convert it to 720.
>>>>>>>>> --
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Re: flv to ogg

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

I like to use the mp4 format because it is supported by HTML5 and I can
embed it in a web page for streaming.  mkv isn't as easy.


On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 10:51 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> MP4, AVI, MOV, FLV...etc...etc are container formats.  Think of them as
> specialty file systems that hold the various "files" that make up of the
> video.  Those parts can include the video, the audio, subtitles, thumbnail
> images, meta data... etc...etc.. and often time multiple versions of any
> combination of those.
>
> The various containers can usually hold a number of different types of
> video formats inside them such as h.264, h.264/HEVC, MPEG4, Theora, VP8,
> VP9, AV1.  Then there are different audio formats and they can usually use
> just about anything you can think of as an audio codec, such as MP2, WAV
> but often times they use formats that you don't usually see outside of a
> video pairing like AC3, AAC, but there's no reason you couldn't just have
> an stand alone audio file in any format that can be encoded into a video.
>
> So just looking at the suffix of the video file won't tell you anything
> about if your computer can play it back or not.  What you really need to
> know is the CODECS that make up various parts of the video are and the
> resolution that the video is stored at.   Your computer will have an easier
> time of with some video formats than others.  You'll find that your
> computer will usually have an easier time with older video formats that are
> much larger because the hardware decompressing support for that format is
> baked into the GPU or the CPU, so you'll find that putting a newer
> generation video card into even an old computer can make it instantly be
> able to play back the most modern 4K video simply because all the
> decompressing is happening on the GPU and the CPU has little to do with it.
>
> If you have VLC, you can go to "Tools -> Codec Information" and "Tools ->
> Media Information" and it will give you a rough breakdown of what makes up
> your particular video.
> Another really nice tool is mediainfo ( apt install mediainfo ).  Just run
> that with your video file name as the argument and it will spit out info
> about all the various parts that make up your video (or audio) file.
>
> Brian Cluff
> PS
> My personal favorite container format is MKV since it seems to be able to
> hold just about anything you throw at it without limitation.
>
>
> On 4/7/22 08:46, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>
> about converting it to x264. is this going to be an mp4 file?
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 10:53 AM Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> ok now try
>>
>> ffmpeg -i input.mp4 -codec:v libtheora -qscale:v 3 -codec:a libvorbis  
>> -qscale:a 3 -f ogv output.ogg
>>
>>
>> you might also want to try converting it to x264   just google convert video 
>> to ffmpeg x264
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 4:22 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> forgot to mention the ones that would not load
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 7:19 PM Michael  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I meant 1080 not 1099.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 7:16 PM Michael  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I did. Those ones stuttered. The other ones had 2 hour downloads. The
>>>>> 1099 ogg file stuttered.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 7:10 PM Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss <
>>>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would try the mp4 versions too
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022, 3:07 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
>>>>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After further investigation I found 720p_stereo.ogg
>>>>>>> <https://download.blender.org/peach/bigbuckbunny_movies/big_buck_bunny_720p_stereo.ogg>
>>>>>>> and 480p_stereo.ogg
>>>>>>> <https://download.blender.org/peach/bigbuckbunny_movies/big_buck_bunny_720p_stereo.ogg>
>>>>>>> work. So I need to convert it to one of those formats.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I assume you want me to convert it to 720.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>>>>> ---
>>

Re: size difference

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

It all depends on your settings, you'll have to play around with them to
see how good they look vs size

These are the settings I use for x264
ffmpeg -i infile.mp4 -channel_layout 5.1 -c:v libx264 -vf yadif -crf 28
-force_key_frames "expr:gte(t,n_forced*4)" -x264-params log-level=none
 -c:a aac -b:a 192k -preset -preset fast -strict experimental -loglevel
warning -stats  outfile.mp4



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> How much bigger is an ogg file than an flv?
>
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Re: flv to ogg

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

ok now try

ffmpeg -i input.mp4 -codec:v libtheora -qscale:v 3 -codec:a libvorbis
-qscale:a 3 -f ogv output.ogg

you might also want to try converting it to x264   just google convert
video to ffmpeg x264


On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 4:22 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> forgot to mention the ones that would not load
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 7:19 PM Michael  wrote:
>
>> I meant 1080 not 1099.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 7:16 PM Michael  wrote:
>>
>>> I did. Those ones stuttered. The other ones had 2 hour downloads. The
>>> 1099 ogg file stuttered.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 7:10 PM Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss <
>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would try the mp4 versions too
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2022, 3:07 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
>>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> After further investigation I found 720p_stereo.ogg
>>>>> <https://download.blender.org/peach/bigbuckbunny_movies/big_buck_bunny_720p_stereo.ogg>
>>>>> and 480p_stereo.ogg
>>>>> <https://download.blender.org/peach/bigbuckbunny_movies/big_buck_bunny_720p_stereo.ogg>
>>>>> work. So I need to convert it to one of those formats.
>>>>>
>>>>> I assume you want me to convert it to 720.
>>>>> --
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Re: flv to ogg

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

I would try the mp4 versions too


On Wed, Apr 6, 2022, 3:07 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> After further investigation I found 720p_stereo.ogg
> 
> and 480p_stereo.ogg
> 
> work. So I need to convert it to one of those formats.
>
> I assume you want me to convert it to 720.
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Re: flv to mp4

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

Are you on dialup ?
I didn't say pick one, I'm sure the lowest quality will work, but you want
to know what your system can handle, so keep downloading the next quality
up until you get stuttering. Or try the middle and go up if it works or
down if it doesn't. Then you can work on what you need to convert it.

On Wed, Apr 6, 2022, 1:52 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> dude those videos will take 4 hours apiece to download
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 3, 2022 at 12:49 PM Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> You need to figure out what your system can play without it stuttering,
>> I would suggest you go here
>> https://download.blender.org/peach/bigbuckbunny_movies/
>> and download each of the versions of the movie and play each one. If it
>> stutters, then rule out the settings for that format.
>> When you find a suitable format. Duplicate those settings in your
>> conversion for your video.
>> Open the video in VLC and type Ctrl-i  then click the codec tab, this
>> will tell you the codec info.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 2, 2022 at 5:35 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, the default if removing -sameq produces something with a little
>>> better result but it is still to resource intensive for my puter. Is .mov a
>>> little more basic? (I can't figure out the man page)
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 2, 2022 at 7:04 PM Michael  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I recorded a instruction session with someone today and my computer
>>>> can't handle the video output. The sound is OK but the video plays in
>>>> spurts and then it is just frozen. I looked up how to convert the .flv file
>>>> to an .mp4 (ffmpeg -i filename.flv -sameq -ar 22050 filename.mp4) but
>>>> would taking out the -sameq produce a lower quality video which might play
>>>> on my weak machine? Should I put another option in? How would I create a
>>>> lower quality video if just removing the -sameq option doesn't play?
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: flv to mp4

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

You need to figure out what your system can play without it stuttering,
I would suggest you go here
https://download.blender.org/peach/bigbuckbunny_movies/
and download each of the versions of the movie and play each one. If it
stutters, then rule out the settings for that format.
When you find a suitable format. Duplicate those settings in your
conversion for your video.
Open the video in VLC and type Ctrl-i  then click the codec tab, this will
tell you the codec info.




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plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> Well, the default if removing -sameq produces something with a little
> better result but it is still to resource intensive for my puter. Is .mov a
> little more basic? (I can't figure out the man page)
>
> On Sat, Apr 2, 2022 at 7:04 PM Michael  wrote:
>
>> I recorded a instruction session with someone today and my computer can't
>> handle the video output. The sound is OK but the video plays in spurts and
>> then it is just frozen. I looked up how to convert the .flv file to an .mp4
>> (ffmpeg -i filename.flv -sameq -ar 22050 filename.mp4) but would taking
>> out the -sameq produce a lower quality video which might play on my weak
>> machine? Should I put another option in? How would I create a lower quality
>> video if just removing the -sameq option doesn't play?
>>
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>>
>
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Re: external U.S.robotics fax modem

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

If you still have the problem of connecting it to a Serial Port you could
try an internal fax modem, I found this on tiger direct.
https://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6598119&csid=_21

Funny thing, I had to submit paperwork recently and get would only use USPS
or fax, so i got my 2006 HP laptop which had a built-in modem and was able
to send a fax using Google voice. The laptop was running Windows XP lol


On Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 8:55 AM Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss <
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> I would like that. Thanks. It be helpful to me to have my computer send
> and receive fax’s.
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, at 23:14, der.hans wrote:
> > Am 10. Mar, 2022 schwätzte Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss so:
> >
> > moin moin,
> >
> > I have a couple old external modems if you need one. I haven't ever used
> > them for fax, so no idea if that works. Actually, no idea if they work,
> > but I ran into them while cleaning up the garage a couple weeks ago.
> >
> > If I can find them again I can take pictures to see if they look like
> > models that will work. If they will, I can likely run them up to you next
> > week.
> >
> > For editing uneditable images I've been using xournal since Ted mentioned
> > it years and years ago. I mostly use it for PDFs, but I think I've used
> it
> > for PNG and JPG as well. Perhaps I first converted them to PDF. Dunno.
> >
> > Even if you still have to fax using a tool like xournal might at least
> > save you some dead tree time.
> >
> > ciao,
> >
> > der.hans
> >
> >> I'm looking to setup my computer for faxes sending and receiving. I'm
> looking at using the U.S. robotics fax modem but unsure if the two fax
> software made for Linux will support it as I would be using a USB adapter
> for serial port connection to the fax modem.
> >> Anyone out they have any suggestions or advise how I should setup my
> Linux box for using faxes or what to watch out for type of problems. This
> fax modem is the only thing I can think of as I am low income and don't
> have much money for the month. I once used such a modem with Linux a couple
> of decades ago when I use to run a ham radio gateway back in Maine. But I
> used a script for the fax modem to make the connection. So it will run with
> Linux.
> >
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Re: System Monitoring

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

Take a look at monitorix it come with CentOs but runs on all the major
installations


On Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 6:20 PM AZ Pete via PLUG-discuss <
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> Hi All,
>
> I have a growing network of Linux servers in my home network (3 Raspberry
> Pis, 1 Ubuntu, 1 Linux Mint) and am looking for a way that I can monitor
> them remotely.
> Specifically, I'm looking to have a unified dashboard that would list for
> each server:
>
>- CPU utilization history
>- Drive space consumed
>- Temperature monitoring (CPU, chip set, & hard drive temps)
>- Fan speed monitoring
>- Some kind of alerting mechanism when a given threshold is passed
>(i.e. email sent).
>
> These are the most important items, anything else would be a "nice to
> have".
> I've looked into Webmin, Glances, Nagios, Collectd & Cockpit. Mostly these
> seemed to be geared more toward remote admin. But the monitoring that was
> available didn't seem to include the temperature info or the idea of one
> unified dashboard.  I would rather not have to go to a separate admin site
> for each server to check on it's status.
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations for such software, keeping things as
> simple as possible (i.e. Nagios seemed waaayyy to complicated, being an
> enterprise tool).
>
> Thanks,
> Peter
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Re: processors on system

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

Damn spell check

more /proc/cpuinfo

On Sun, Sep 12, 2021, 10:18 AM Bob Elzer  wrote:

> Run this
> more /proc/flying
>
> Look for the model name and CPU cores
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2021, 10:06 AM Donald Mac McCarthy via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> Hyper threading often shows up as 2. You may have a single core, dual
>> thread processor.
>>
>> Mac
>>
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>> On Sunday, Sep 12, 2021 at 12:56 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>> I always thought I only had one processor on my system
>> However, when I ran the command 'grep processor /proc/cpuinfo' the output
>> was:
>> processor : 0
>> processor : 1
>>
>> This means I have two processors in there?
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Re: processors on system

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

Run this
more /proc/flying

Look for the model name and CPU cores



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> Hyper threading often shows up as 2. You may have a single core, dual
> thread processor.
>
> Mac
>
> --
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> Director, Field Operations
> +1.602.584.4445 (desk)
> +1.602.727.4131 (mobile)
>
> On Sunday, Sep 12, 2021 at 12:56 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> I always thought I only had one processor on my system
> However, when I ran the command 'grep processor /proc/cpuinfo' the output
> was:
> processor : 0
> processor : 1
>
> This means I have two processors in there?
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Re: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/59-million-americans-prohibited-buying-high-end-dell-gaming-pcs

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

I'd like to point out that while you say global warming is bunk (I'm not
saying it is or it isn't) but then you throw out a crazy theory of Bill
Gates taking control because he has about 300k in acres of farmland. Having
the most doesn't mean all, there are still 910 million more acres of
farmland he doesn't control.

The problem we are facing is too much misinformation and not enough people
that can figure out which is the bad information. On all sorts of topics.

And these usually end up being shouting matches.

So my vote goes to close the topic.



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>
> I am one of the main offenders and I apologize.
>
> I appreciate you Michael.  You were one of the people who responded to
> my questions about Postfix/Dovecot.  I am further along and have a
> functioning server, however Postfix/Dovecot is still too much of a
> mystery to me.  I need to learn more.
>
> Michael, your post made me think.  This tread started by discussing a
> political faction that wants to impose their will on us.
>
> We are a political organization even if we think we are not.  Lets look
> a possible scenario.
>
> As you may not know Bill Gates is the single biggest owner of farm land.
>   That should scare you.  What if he does not farm that land for a year?
> That could cause severe food shortages.  Who's your daddy?
>
> A little closer to home.  Bill Gates uses his influence (money) to gain
> control of some key players and next thing you know Linux is banned
> because evil hackers use it to hack other people's servers... Now the
> Government is telling us we MUST use Windows only.  The entire Apple
> apparatus is undone and Linux is illegal.
>
> So we must be politically involved to some degree.
>
>
>
> On 2021-08-03 07:38, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> > Ugh, these pseudo political/religious threads are best served
> > elsewhere, perhaps create a plug-politics group so the CNN vs. Fox
> > News crowds to argue in.  Otherwise, can we just go back to technology
> > and not how much the world sucks these days?  Tired of checking the
> > list for new updates with this drivel, if I wanted politics, I'd hit a
> > cancerous mailing list built for it.
> >
> > -mb
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 3, 2021 at 7:15 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> In spite of my beliefs that there is no global warming I would like
> >> to
> >> convert my house to all electric and put as much solar on my roof as
> >> it
> >> will take.  My goal is net zero house budget.
> >> If possible I'd like to have no electric or gas bill and generate
> >> enough
> >> electricity that my rebate would pay for my property taxes and
> >> water/sewer bill.
> >>
> >> This is the right thing to do for me.  I do not like all the
> >> chemicals
> >> that go into solar ... but what are you going to do?
> >>
> >> I see there are a number of auto manufactures that are getting into
> >> the
> >> electric vehicle production.  I'd like one as a toy.  What I really
> >> would like for my daily driver is a 1969 SS 396 4 speed nova.  I had
> >> a
> >> number of muscle cars and it has been my goal to own another one
> >> before
> >> I die.
> >>
> >> Some want to bring the left and the right together.  I think it is
> >> impossible.  Steve you believe in global warming and potentially a
> >> number of other left leaning ideologies.  I on the other hand do not
> >>
> >> believe in a lot of that stuff and just want to live free.
> >>
> >> Another thing we need as Americans is revival.  We need to turn back
> >> to
> >> God and make Jesus our Lord and Savior.
> >>
> >> Why has the USA driven the global markets for some time in the past?
> >>
> >> God's provision.
> >>
> >> On 2021-08-02 12:21, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> >>> Matthew Gibson said on Mon, 2 Aug 2021 11:56:48 -0700
> >>>
>  And if you have your way we will be looking a lot like Venezuela
> >> or
>  Cuba.
> >>>
> >>> And if you have your way, 2060 Americans would gleefully trade
> >> places
> >>> with today's Venezuelans or Cubans.
> >>>
> >>>
>  Now, aside from attempting to force your will upon me and
> >> society,
>  what can you personally do to lower your carbon footprint?
> >>>
> >>> The preceding is a good question, one that I and every other
> >> person
> >>> needs to consider and answer.
> >>>
> >>> Already I use LED bulbs everywhere, I drive my 2.0 liter Jeep less
> >> than
> >>> 8000 miles a year, I run my summer thermostat at 78 farenheit.
> >> That's
> >>> the starting point.
> >>>
> >>> Due to this discussion I've been watching my activities. I
> >> currently
> >>> use purified cold water from the fridge to make my hot tea. That's
> >>> stupid: I need to find a way to filter water without refrigerating
> >> it.
> >>>
> >>> I can get better attic insulation. This costs quite a bit of
> >> money, but
> >>> it's the right thing to do and will save money in the long run.
> >>>
> >>> 

Re: Electrical costs to run a home web server

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

Well if you think about it, before you decided to run your computer 24/7
you probably have been running it about half that. Say 8-12 hours a day. So
your actual cost is most likely only half of what you calculated.



On Wed, Jul 21, 2021, 7:34 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
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>
>
> Hi,
>
> I just read this quote about the electrical costs to run a web server
> from home:
>
> Cost: While it may sound cheaper to use that computer lying around doing
> nothing when creating your web server, when you factor in the cost of
> powering an old computer 24 hours a day, it can get very expensive. A
> 250W desktop computer running 24 hours per day at 12 cents per KW/h is a
> whopping $262.00 per year!
>
> ---
> I think their math is wrong.
>
> The average residential electricity rate in Chandler is 10.85¢/kWh.
>
> I'm thinking a low traffic PHP web server running on an old Dell with a
> 400 watt power supply is not using but maybe 100 watts on average.  I've
> read that the computer should use no more than half the power supply
> capacity.  Is this correct?
>
> If my home web server is using 100 watts an hour that mean 100 watts *
> 30 days * 24 hours or 72K watts.
>
> I'm thinking 72 * .1085 = $7.81 a month.
>
> Any thoughts are much appreciated.
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Re: CentOS 8 error

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

Just do

dnf install mariadb-server



On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 8:53 AM greg zegan via PLUG-discuss <
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> Hello,
>   as per my previous email here is more details on the error I am getting:
> How to register and subscribe a system to the Red Hat Customer Portal
> using Red Hat Subscription-Manager - Red Hat Customer Portal
> 
>
> How to register and subscribe a system to the Red Hat Customer Portal us...
>
> How to register a new Red Hat Enterprise Linux system to the Customer
> Portal using Red Hat Subscription-Manager ...
> 
>
> [root@GreenRoom ~]# subscription-manager attach
> This system is not yet registered. Try 'subscription-manager register
> --help' for more information.
> [root@GreenRoom ~]# subscription-manager register
> Registering to: subscription.rhsm.redhat.com:443/subscription
> Username: gzegan
> Password:
> Unable to verify server's identity: [SSL: CERTIFICATE_VERIFY_FAILED]
> certificate verify failed (_ssl.c:897)
> [root@GreenRoom ~]#
>
>
> please advise.
> thanks,
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Re: Fw: linux error for my CentOS 8

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

Just do

dnf install mariadb-server



On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, 8:37 AM greg zegan via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>   Thanks to all to replied to my request for help.
> I have tried a few new steps to resolve this and as you can see in this
> email I am still at a standstill.
> Any and all help is appreciated.
> please advise.
> thanks,
> Greg
>
>
> - Forwarded Message -
> *From:* greg zegan 
> *To:* Greg Zegan 
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 15, 2021, 11:15:10 AM EDT
> *Subject:* linux error for my CentOS 8
>
> sudo dnf install @mysql
> [sudo] password for gzegan:
> Updating Subscription Management repositories.
> Unable to read consumer identity
>
> This system is not registered to Red Hat Subscription Management. You can
> use subscription-manager to register.
>
> bintray--ookla-rhel
>  16  B/s |  10  B 00:00
> Errors during downloading metadata for repository 'bintray--ookla-rhel':
>   - Status code: 403 for
> https://ookla.bintray.com/rhel/repodata/repomd.xml (IP: 34.211.43.146)
> Error: Failed to download metadata for repo 'bintray--ookla-rhel': Cannot
> download repomd.xml: Cannot download repodata/repomd.xml: All mirrors were
> tried
> [gzegan@GreenRoom ~]$ subscription-manager register
> You are attempting to run "subscription-manager" which requires
> administrative
> privileges, but more information is needed in order to do so.
> Authenticating as "root"
> Password:
> Password:
> Registering to: subscription.rhsm.redhat.com:443/subscription
> Username: gzegan
> Password:
> Unable to verify server's identity: [SSL: CERTIFICATE_VERIFY_FAILED]
> certificate verify failed (_ssl.c:897)
> [gzegan@GreenRoom ~]$ su -
> Password:
> [root@GreenRoom ~]# subscription-manager register
> Registering to: subscription.rhsm.redhat.com:443/subscription
> Username: gzegan@GreenRoom
> Password:
> Unable to verify server's identity: [SSL: CERTIFICATE_VERIFY_FAILED]
> certificate verify failed (_ssl.c:897)
> [root@GreenRoom ~]# subscription-manager refresh
> This system is not yet registered. Try 'subscription-manager register
> --help' for more information.
> [root@GreenRoom ~]# subscription-manager auto
> Usage: subscription-manager MODULE-NAME [MODULE-OPTIONS] [--help]
>
> Primary Modules:
>
>   attach Attach a specified subscription to the registered system
>   list   List subscription and product information for this system
>   refreshPull the latest subscription data from the server
>   register   Register this system to the Customer Portal or another
> subscription management service
>   releaseConfigure which operating system release to use
>   remove Remove all or specific subscriptions from this system
>   status Show status information for this system's subscriptions
> and products
>   unregister Unregister this system from the Customer Portal or
> another subscription management service
>
> Other Modules:
>
>   addons Modify or view the addons attribute of the system purpose
>   auto-attachSet if subscriptions are attached on a schedule (default
> of daily)
>   clean  Remove all local system and subscription data without
> affecting the server
>   config List, set, or remove the configuration parameters in use
> by this system
>   environments   Display the environments available for a user
>   facts  View or update the detected system information
>   identity   Display the identity certificate for this system or
> request a new one
>   import Import certificates which were provided outside of the
> tool
>   orgs   Display the organizations against which a user can
> register a system
>   pluginsView and configure with 'subscription-manager plugins'
>   redeem Attempt to redeem a subscription for a preconfigured
> system
>   repo-override  Manage custom content repository settings
>   repos  List the repositories which this system is entitled to use
>   role   Modify system purpose role
>   service-level  Manage service levels for this system
>   subscribe  Deprecated, see attach
>   unsubscribeDeprecated, see remove
>   usage  Manage usage setting for this system
>   versionPrint version information
>
> [root@GreenRoom ~]# subscription-manager refresh
> This system is not yet registered. Try 'subscription-manager register
> --help' for more information.
> [root@GreenRoom ~]# subscription-manager register
> Registering to: subscription.rhsm.redhat.com:443/subscription
> Username: root
> Password:
> Unable to verify server's identity: [SSL: CERTIFICATE_VERIFY_FAILED]
> certificate verify failed (_ssl.c:897)
> [root@GreenRoom ~]#
>
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Re: Libre office

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

What is in U127 ?  And what is in T127
I'm assuming N125 = 16


On Mon, May 10, 2021, 9:00 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
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> Why do these two formulas produce the same result?
>
> =(U127-2200)*0.01*16 =SUM((U127-T127)*0.01*$N$125) assuming t127 is not
> 2200
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Re: Creating PDFs on CentOS 7

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

I use a combination of fpdf and PHP to generate reports from a MariaDB
database.


On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 5:01 PM Retro64XYZ via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> LaTex will let you create PDF files programmatically.
>
> On 11/17/20 4:05 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I need to create PDFs from collected data on a CentOS 7 box. I'm not
> > coming up with much when searching for what packages are available on
> > CentOS 7.
> >
> > Any help much appreciated!!
> >
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Re: swap file vs swap partition

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

Swap files have been around forever. You really don't need to worry about
file fragmentation on an SSD because of the way files are written and being
handled by the controller. Partitions are contiguous, so they don't get
fragmented, but all the writes would be confined to a smaller space on an
SSD so it would wear it out faster.  Ext4 file systems spread files out to
prevent file fragmentation, but when your hard disk gets full it is
possible to get some fragmentation. On an SSD you should not let it get
full, a full SSD will start writing to the same areas more often shortening
the life of the SSD.


On Thu, Oct 29, 2020, 7:15 PM Seabass via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> Defragmentation should be an issue for you on an SSD, even if there is
> some, right?
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 17:08:03 -0700
> From: Matt Graham 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: swap file vs swap partition
> Message-ID: <064f92165a42d6f88a3430b42a521...@crow202.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> On 2020-10-28 16:24, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 13:43:22 -0700
> > Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss  wrote:
> >> The biggest difference is, files can become fragmented while
> >> partitions don't.
> > I had no idea there was such a thing as a Linux swap file. I guess
> > that's a recent thing.
>
> You could use a file as swap space in the early 2000s. I remember
> doing that on a few machines then.
>
> > If my partition file becomes fragmented, is there a way for me
> > to defragment it?
>
> Probably not. However, file fragmentation is not generally a problem
> on modern machines because disks and CPUs are much faster than they were
> in 1998. If you use ext4 and have a disk that's less than 10 years old
> and less than 95% full, you will not notice anything. /swapfile on my
> laptop has 11 extents and it doesn't seem to have any problems.
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Re: swap file vs swap partition

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

The biggest difference is, files can become fragmented while partitions
don't. On a hard drive this can make a big difference. On an SSD I would
tend not to use a swap partition or file. If you use a swap partition on an
SSD it would confine the writes to a smaller area of the disk and wear it
out faster. So a file would work much better because it has the whole disk
to even out the writes. But you do a lot of swapping that also puts more
wear onto the SSD. So I would tend to put my swap on a hard drive.


On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 8:57 AM Seabass via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> I tend to prefer swapfiles.
> Doesn't require a partition, so it can be resized easily and won't require
> you to know the partition number. (Opinion: fewer partitions is just easier)
> It is encrypted swap when on a fully encrypted drive without needing more
> partitioning work.
>
> I don't actually know a reason to make swap a partition over a swapfile. I
> imagine there is a partition setting somehow or maybe the inability to
> resize is desirable, but that hasn't been my use case before.
>
> To be fair though... I don't use hibernate so don't really need a swap
> either. So it is rare I'd need it anyway.
> --
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 21:22:57 -0700
> From: Jim 
> To: plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org
> Subject: swap file vs swap partition
> Message-ID: <4613ab4d-61b5-34b0-4944-d0917cec2...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> Regarding swap file vs swap partition: Is one better than the other?
> When I installed Kubuntu on my machine, both options were available and
> I chose the swap file.  The OS is installed on an
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Re: start zoom from command line

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

Try putting the first quote after the =


On Tue, Sep 29, 2020, 8:47 AM Jim via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> Thanks.  I tried using the instructions there to connect to the test
> meeting at
> https://zoom.us/j/94780156957?pwd=SWx1WHNJcjVNUndjV2pxTkNseEQ0UT09.
> Here's what I entered:
>
> $ zoom launch
> --url=zoommtg://zoom.us/j/94780156957?pwd=SWx1WHNJcjVNUndjV2pxTkNseEQ0UT09
> ERROR: "zoom launch" was called with arguments
> ["--url=zoommtg://
> zoom.us/j/94780156957?pwd=SWx1WHNJcjVNUndjV2pxTkNseEQ0UT09"]
> Usage: "zoom launch"
>
> Then it put me back at the command prompt.  I looked again at the
> instructions to see if I missed something.  I missed where it said to
> include the quotes.  so I tried that:
>
> $ zoom launch
> "--url=zoommtg://
> zoom.us/j/94780156957?pwd=SWx1WHNJcjVNUndjV2pxTkNseEQ0UT09"
> ERROR: "zoom launch" was called with arguments
> ["--url=zoommtg://
> zoom.us/j/94780156957?pwd=SWx1WHNJcjVNUndjV2pxTkNseEQ0UT09"]
> Usage: "zoom launch"
> $
>
> On 9/28/20 9:49 PM, Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> > This looks like it's got the info you need:
> >
> https://superuser.com/questions/1563255/start-a-zoom-meeting-from-the-command-line
> >
> >
> > Brian Cluff
> >
> > On 9/28/20 9:40 PM, Jim via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> >> I already have the zoom client.  What do I enter at the command line
> >> to make zoom launch and connect to a particular meeting?
> >>
> >> On 9/27/20 2:42 PM, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 09:12:08 -0700
> >>> Jim via PLUG-discuss  wrote:
> >>>
>  Is there a way to launch zoom and have it connect to a meeting using
>  the command line?  I'm looking for something simpler than opening
>  Thunderbird, finding the email with the link to the meeting, clicking
>  the link then waiting for the web browser to open, then for it to
>  launch zoom.
> >>> You can install a Zoom client.
> >>>
> >>> SteveT
> >>>
> >>> Steve Litt
> >>> Autumn 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times
> >>> http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive
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Re: Stammtisch Tonight

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

You can, it's a virtual meeting click the link Hans posted the big blue
meeting one.


On Tue, Sep 15, 2020, 3:38 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> Wish I could come
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 6:16 PM der.hans via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> moin moin,
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> The Free Software Stammtisch is tonight at 19:00 in Big Blue Button
>>
>>
>>
>> https://floss.social/@FLOX_advocate/104869820888922143
>>
>>
>>
>> https://lufthans.bigbluemeeting.com/b/plu-yuk-7xx
>>
>>
>>
>> ciao,
>>
>>
>>
>> der.hans
>>
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>>
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Re: messed up network manager.

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

I was thinking of doing this to my CentOs system a while ago, before doing
it I read the install script. I saw that it was going to make changes to
DNS, so i decided not to install it. You could read the script to see what
changes it did and try undoing them.


On Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 6:01 AM Aaron Jones via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> You can severely break your computer doing this. You might need to
> reinstall your OS. Seriously. I’m warning you. Have back ups. Make sure you
> are wired to the internet. Have back ups and be ready for that OS to be
> replaced. Don’t do it on WiFi.
>
> sudo apt-get remove --purge network-manager
> sudo dhclient eth0
> sudo apt-get install network-manager
>
> That might work. It might not. It might make your system completely not
> functional and unable to reach the internet.
>
> You can also read and then possibly try this
>
> https://askubuntu.com/a/728388
>
> Good luck.
>
> On Sep 13, 2020, at 11:49 PM, Jim via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
> I made the mistake of installing pihole on this machine which is running
> kubuntu 20.04.  When it finished, DNS didn't work anymore.  I uninstalled
> piehole.  Somehow I messed up network manager.  It doesn't show that I have
> a network connection.  I could ping IP addresses such as 8.8.8.8 but DNS
> still didn't work.  I edited /etc/systemd/resolved.conf where I added
> DNS=8.8.8.8 and FallbackDNS=8.8.4.4.  I rebooted and DNS is working again.
> Still, Network Manager is messed up.  I click on it and it doesn't show any
> available networks.  I can right click on the network manager icon, then
> click Configure network connections, and the ethernet connection is there.
> The option in Network manager to stop or start the network isn't there.
>
> Please somebody tell me how to fix this.
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: Raspberry Pi uses on a home network

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

Garage door opener
Home security with a camera


On Wed, Sep 9, 2020, 3:22 PM Steve B via PLUG-discuss <
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> I've been offered a Raspberry P 3B+ with a POE hat, but am having
> difficulty deciding if I really need it. Currently the uses I can see for
> it within my home network are:
>
> 1. Ubiquiti controller (replacing a cloud controller);
> 2. Pi hole;
> 3. Tor relay node;
> 4. Asterisk server.
>
> Would appreciate some ideas for other possible uses.
>
> Steve
>
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Re: After Linux Mint update, numerous problems ...

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

Could the page be a blank page ? Have you tried typing in a working web
page address like www.google.com ?


On Wed, Sep 2, 2020, 5:29 PM joe--- via PLUG-discuss <
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> Thanks Stephen ...
>
> I did everything that you suggested and I still get
> a black window or blank window when I open the Chrome
> browser. The title bar shows a web page open, but
> there is nothing in the open window.
>
>
> Meanwhile, I installed Slimjet and it works fine.
> Firefox works fine.
>
> ---
> 2009-02 Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> > Apt purge chrome and drop the chrome repo. Download fresh and
> > rename/purge the chrome profile?
> >
> > That's a little scorched earth I know but it would help you sort out
> > root cause.
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Re: DSL bonding

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

I'd brush up on fiber splicing  lol


On Tue, Aug 18, 2020, 1:40 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> AT&T is still fscked up.  The tech came out today and told me that the
> cutoff for the service is 4800 feet and I'm 5136 feet from the box the
> modem talks to.   He ran some test anyway and confirmed it's not
> available.  He told me he has heard of no plans to bring fiber to my
> neighborhood, but said it is available in a small town 5 miles up the road
> from me in one direction.  3 miles down the road in the other direction is
> a subdivision that has it.  The fiber runs next to the highway less than a
> hundred yards from here.  I guess it's time to see what other options if
> any are available.
> On 8/16/20 10:39 AM, Michael Butash wrote:
>
> I think it mostly comes down to the fact that they can only really
> guarantee 2 or 4 wires to a premise for residential telco, probably more
> modern deployments a full 8 wires (ala CatX), though their traditional
> copper distribution isn't built for it unless commercial (their big PED on
> the roads your neighborhood comes back to.  Probably something in the
> telcordia standards back to ma bell days that says that is just how it is.
> Since the plants are non-shielded, non-twisted pair cabling too, it can
> only modulate so high, particularly when poorly run/done, which is why
> you're stuck at 12mbps.
>
> If they had to change your home copper, they'd just run fiber, neither
> will happen likely.
>
> The DSL bonding is already a hack to get more bandwidth when DSL itself is
> stuck in time now at raw theoretical limits.  Combining more physical
> channels as these were would be trivial, if copper were available, and
> telcos wanted to support it.  Someone would need to make the modem too.
> Technically cable modems do this, literally taking "channels" or slices or
> spectrum on the wire, and load-balancing them internally, up to 24 or 32
> channels for multi-gig capabilities.  Same with ethernet, taking 8 into a
> port-channel and balancing across them, whether 100 megabit or 400 gigabit
> ethernet.
>
> AT&T is the most ghetto provider out there still, and always has been
> imho.  Moving to San Jose in '99, there was AT&T Cable TV installed by the
> owners, which consisted of 2x of your standard coax ala modern cable from
> the outside, and required a physical a/b switch box to switch between 13
> channels on one, and 13 channels on another.  First I looked at it, and was
> confused enough I had to call them and ask wtf the cable "channels" worked
> to realize just how bad it was, and I then worked for the original @home
> cable isp company then supporting AT&T cable modems!  The images were even
> snowy, the service was so bad even a tech couldn't (read: wouldn't)
> improve.  When I asked about a cable modem, they laughed at me, so I had to
> get DSL (phat 1.5mbps then), disconnected the useless cable tv (yay usenet
> alt.binaries.video even then), and threw up a finger to AT&T.
>
> I can only imagine how bad AT&T's DSL is if they couldn't figure out even
> coax.  My experience supporting their customers for Cable Modem data in
> '99, relatively new tech then, wasn't much better, as if the cable plant to
> your house was broke, it tended to just stay broke despite our rolling
> their techs to fix it.  Then they'd get angry at us for doing so and tell
> us to stop rolling so many trucks to fix things.
>
> Sigh.
>
> Having grown up in Phoenix where Dimension, and later Cox actually had
> their shit (relatively) together, this was an inconceivable atrocity but
> exactly what I'd expect of AT&T.  Thanks to them (and Comcast, all the
> media cartels now really) owning the FCC now with your tax dollars, it'll
> never, ever, get better either.  Good thing Net Neutrality and consumer
> rights weren't really needed after all!
>
> -mb
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 12:42 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> 150 Mbps, you're lucky.  Here AT&T has to bond  2 pairs so I can get 25
>> Mbps.At least it's not comcast.  I wonder how many pairs they could
>> bond.  Is there a technical limit or is it just a matter of how many they
>> want to bond?  As more people abandon landlines, that leaves more capacity
>> for AT&T to bond multiple pairs for internet customers.
>> On 8/10/20 11:21 AM, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>
>> So I went through this moving from Cox to CenturyLink, and pretty much as
>> described, fairly painless.
>>
>> 
>>
>> I had scheduled a CL tech to install me for new service a few years ago,
>> and we first hit the outside where CL ran their cabling in.  It was an
>> ancient telephony distribution from the 90's, and I've never had a
>> land-line in my house since owning it in 2002.  My house built in 95 at
>> least used cat5 or like, so I have 4 pairs to every room, so 2 pairs I need
>> was just fine for bonded DSL  He ripped out the old block, removing the
>> house cabling 

Re: New computer.

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

Mike, the motherboard will only have 4 slots for memory. If you use 8gb
sticks that means a max of 32 GB.  Memory sticks come in 4, 8, 16 and 32gb
sticks. The max memory on the motherboard is 128gb. If you decide you need
more memory than 32gb then you would have to remove some of the 8gb sticks
to replace them with 16 or 32gb sticks the wasting the money you spent on
the 8gb sticks you replaced.

So in my opinion, I would  get a 16gb stick instead two ígb sticks. Thus
leaving room to go to 64gb in the future. Ram is always faster than nvme,
SSD and hdd. I don't think you will notice a 17% difference with single
channel mode which is ram speed.

Even if you never get more than 16gb the speed difference is not that
noticeable.


On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 10:29 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> I don't get it, Bob.
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 12:24 PM Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss
>  wrote:
> >
> > My only suggestion on this machine is to use a 16gb stick, just so if
> you ever decide you need more memory you won't have to replace the smaller
> sticks. With 16gb sticks you can have 64gb total. If you ever think you
> might like to have 128gb of memory the you could get a 32gb memory stick.
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 9:29 AM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Just an idea and ballpark cost.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 6:11 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> yeah? I was planning on doing the enclosure thing powered separately.
> >>> As for whether my USBs are 1 or 2 lshw|grep us seems to indicate I
> >>> only have USB2. But you know what they say play with what you
> >>> have!
> >>> *-usb:0
> >>>*-usbhost
> >>> bus info: usb@1
> >>> logical name: usb1
> >>> capabilities: usb-2.00
> >>>   *-usb
> >>>bus info: usb@1:1
> >>>capabilities: usb-2.00
> >>> *-usb:1
> >>>*-usbhost
> >>> bus info: usb@2
> >>> logical name: usb2
> >>> capabilities: usb-2.00
> >>>   *-usb
> >>>bus info: usb@2:1
> >>>capabilities: usb-2.00
> >>>  *-usb:0
> >>>   bus info: usb@2:1.4
> >>>   capabilities: bluetooth usb-2.00
> >>>   configuration: driver=btusb speed=12Mbit/s
> >>>  *-usb:1
> >>>   bus info: usb@2:1.7
> >>>   capabilities: usb-2.00
> >>> *-usb:0
> >>>  bus info: usb@2:1.7.2
> >>>  capabilities: usb-1.10
> >>>  configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=100mA
> >>> speed=2Mbit/s
> >>> *-usb:1
> >>>  bus info: usb@2:1.7.3
> >>>  capabilities: usb-2.00
> >>>  configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=98mA
> >>> speed=2Mbit/s
> >>> *-usb:2
> >>>  bus info: usb@2:1.7.4
> >>>  capabilities: usb-2.00 scsi emulated scsi-host
> >>>  configuration: driver=usb-storage
> >>> maxpower=100mA speed=480Mbit/s
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 4:21 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > It's a good idea, however I don't think a NUC will have a big enough
> >>> > power supply to support that many hard drives.  If you could get that
> >>> > many attached to it, it would probably cause the hard drive to fail
> >>> > rather quickly on a NUC.  You would need to get some sort of external
> >>> > USB attached hard drive enclosure with it's own power supply to make
> it
> >>> > work right.  I would only do that if your NUC has USB3 and the
> enclosure
> >>> > also is USB3.   USB2 would just make your storage painfully slow.
> >>> >
> >>> > An NVMe is a new kind of SSD that is essentially attached directly
> to a
> >&

Re: New computer.

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

Looking at those tests  it seems the 17% seems to be in memory speed not
CPU speed. The biggest difference was 13 seconds for a winter compression.
I would get 2 16gb sticks instead of 2 8gb sticks then, if you don't want
the single hit. My point is if you use 8gb sticks and fill the slots to
32gb and decide you need more you wasted money on the 8gb sticks. I
personally will put 32gb sticks in my machine when I upgrade.

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 9:35 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> You can do that but you will take a speed hit.  Computers these days will
> read the RAM in pairs for a speed increase.  The testing in the article
> below saw a 17.7% speed increase by using dual channel memory on some loads.
>
>
> https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1349-ram-how-dual-channel-works-vs-single-channel
>
> Brian Cluff
>
> On 7/19/20 9:24 AM, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>
> My only suggestion on this machine is to use a 16gb stick, just so if you
> ever decide you need more memory you won't have to replace the smaller
> sticks. With 16gb sticks you can have 64gb total. If you ever think you
> might like to have 128gb of memory the you could get a 32gb memory stick.
>
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 9:29 AM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> Just an idea and ballpark cost.
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 6:11 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> yeah? I was planning on doing the enclosure thing powered separately.
>>> As for whether my USBs are 1 or 2 lshw|grep us seems to indicate I
>>> only have USB2. But you know what they say play with what you
>>> have!
>>> *-usb:0
>>>*-usbhost
>>> bus info: usb@1
>>> logical name: usb1
>>> capabilities: usb-2.00
>>>   *-usb
>>>bus info: usb@1:1
>>>capabilities: usb-2.00
>>> *-usb:1
>>>*-usbhost
>>> bus info: usb@2
>>> logical name: usb2
>>> capabilities: usb-2.00
>>>   *-usb
>>>bus info: usb@2:1
>>>capabilities: usb-2.00
>>>  *-usb:0
>>>   bus info: usb@2:1.4
>>>   capabilities: bluetooth usb-2.00
>>>   configuration: driver=btusb speed=12Mbit/s
>>>  *-usb:1
>>>   bus info: usb@2:1.7
>>>   capabilities: usb-2.00
>>> *-usb:0
>>>  bus info: usb@2:1.7.2
>>>  capabilities: usb-1.10
>>>  configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=100mA
>>> speed=2Mbit/s
>>> *-usb:1
>>>  bus info: usb@2:1.7.3
>>>  capabilities: usb-2.00
>>>  configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=98mA
>>> speed=2Mbit/s
>>> *-usb:2
>>>  bus info: usb@2:1.7.4
>>>  capabilities: usb-2.00 scsi emulated scsi-host
>>>  configuration: driver=usb-storage
>>> maxpower=100mA speed=480Mbit/s
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 4:21 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
>>>  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > It's a good idea, however I don't think a NUC will have a big enough
>>> > power supply to support that many hard drives.  If you could get that
>>> > many attached to it, it would probably cause the hard drive to fail
>>> > rather quickly on a NUC.  You would need to get some sort of external
>>> > USB attached hard drive enclosure with it's own power supply to make it
>>> > work right.  I would only do that if your NUC has USB3 and the
>>> enclosure
>>> > also is USB3.   USB2 would just make your storage painfully slow.
>>> >
>>> > An NVMe is a new kind of SSD that is essentially attached directly to a
>>> > mini PCIe port.  Since it can be accessed at PCIe speeds it isn't
>>> bottle
>>> > necked by the SATA bus, so the read speeds are in gigabytes per second.
>>> > Or in other words it makes everything hard drive related happen
>>> > instantly.  Boot times are usually less 

Re: New computer.

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

My only suggestion on this machine is to use a 16gb stick, just so if you
ever decide you need more memory you won't have to replace the smaller
sticks. With 16gb sticks you can have 64gb total. If you ever think you
might like to have 128gb of memory the you could get a 32gb memory stick.

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 9:29 AM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> Just an idea and ballpark cost.
>
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 6:11 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> yeah? I was planning on doing the enclosure thing powered separately.
>> As for whether my USBs are 1 or 2 lshw|grep us seems to indicate I
>> only have USB2. But you know what they say play with what you
>> have!
>> *-usb:0
>>*-usbhost
>> bus info: usb@1
>> logical name: usb1
>> capabilities: usb-2.00
>>   *-usb
>>bus info: usb@1:1
>>capabilities: usb-2.00
>> *-usb:1
>>*-usbhost
>> bus info: usb@2
>> logical name: usb2
>> capabilities: usb-2.00
>>   *-usb
>>bus info: usb@2:1
>>capabilities: usb-2.00
>>  *-usb:0
>>   bus info: usb@2:1.4
>>   capabilities: bluetooth usb-2.00
>>   configuration: driver=btusb speed=12Mbit/s
>>  *-usb:1
>>   bus info: usb@2:1.7
>>   capabilities: usb-2.00
>> *-usb:0
>>  bus info: usb@2:1.7.2
>>  capabilities: usb-1.10
>>  configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=100mA
>> speed=2Mbit/s
>> *-usb:1
>>  bus info: usb@2:1.7.3
>>  capabilities: usb-2.00
>>  configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=98mA
>> speed=2Mbit/s
>> *-usb:2
>>  bus info: usb@2:1.7.4
>>  capabilities: usb-2.00 scsi emulated scsi-host
>>  configuration: driver=usb-storage
>> maxpower=100mA speed=480Mbit/s
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 4:21 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > It's a good idea, however I don't think a NUC will have a big enough
>> > power supply to support that many hard drives.  If you could get that
>> > many attached to it, it would probably cause the hard drive to fail
>> > rather quickly on a NUC.  You would need to get some sort of external
>> > USB attached hard drive enclosure with it's own power supply to make it
>> > work right.  I would only do that if your NUC has USB3 and the enclosure
>> > also is USB3.   USB2 would just make your storage painfully slow.
>> >
>> > An NVMe is a new kind of SSD that is essentially attached directly to a
>> > mini PCIe port.  Since it can be accessed at PCIe speeds it isn't bottle
>> > necked by the SATA bus, so the read speeds are in gigabytes per second.
>> > Or in other words it makes everything hard drive related happen
>> > instantly.  Boot times are usually less that 2 to 3 seconds.  Login
>> > times are virtually instant.  When you first get one, you will tell your
>> > computer to reboot and then wonder why al lt did was logout until you
>> > realize that it completely shut down and rebooted to the login screen in
>> > less time than your old computer could just logout.
>> >
>> > Brian Cluff
>> >
>> > On 7/18/20 12:35 AM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>> > > Thanks Brian. The hard drive is actually only 5yo with 2 years of use.
>> > > What is a NVMe? What do you think about what I';m thinking about doing
>> > > with the NUC?
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 3:29 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
>> > >  wrote:
>> > >> You'll need RAM too... didn't see that in the list.
>> > >>
>> > >> I would also make sure that you get a motherboard that has a place
>> for
>> > >> at least 1 NVMe.  Then I would recommend that you get at least one
>> > >> NVMe.  It doesn't have to be huge, but if you can put at least your
>> OS
>> > >> on the NVMe, it will make your whole machine feel 50 times faster
>> than
>> > >> if you keep using a 10 year old hard drive Trust me, it will be
>> > >> worth every cent to get it.
>> > >>
>> > >> I would also recommend getting an AMD machine right now.  You can
>> get a
>> > >> whole lot more for your money right now with AMD.
>> > >>
>> > >> BTW  What's the price range you are looking at spending?
>> > >>
>> > >> Brian Cluff
>> > >>
>> > >> On 7/17/20 11:11 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>> > >>> I think I figured out what I want to do. I'm going to buy a
>> > >>> chassis, motherboard, CPU, and power supply and then frankenstein
>> the
>> > >>> hard drive, the wireless card, and the video card from the old
>> machine
>> > >>> (

Re: OT: How to make this simple html menu work?

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

"No video with supported format and MIME type found.

If you are getting this error, your video is probably not in mp4 format,
while you can link any video file, html5 will only work with certain videos
formats. It might be named mp4 but you'll need to check.

You can still right click and copy link location and then and then paste
that into VLC open network stream menu


On Sat, May 9, 2020, 4:49 PM Joe Lowder via PLUG-discuss <
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> Thanks Brian, but I had read that page and tried to
> implement everything suggested there. Couldn't get
> any of it to work. The article describes doing this
> on a windows box and I'm on Linux.
>
> Splash 3
> Splash 4
> Splash 5
>
> The code I shared in my original question did use
> similar syntax to what the article suggests, but
> it doesn't work. The closest I got was a result
> that showed the following message:
>
> "No video with supported format and MIME type found."
>
>
> ---
> May 9, 2020 12:41 am, Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> > I believe this page has a well worded answer to your question:
> >
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18246053/how-can-i-create-a-link-to-a
> > -local-file-on-a-locally-run-web-page/18246357
> >
> > Brian Cluff
>
> ---
> > On 5/8/20 11:14 PM, Joe Lowder via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> >
> >> How can I get the simple html menu
> >> (example code shown below) work to view mp4 videos
> >> from a menu link on my local computer in the same way that I can view
> >> jpg images (and when all the same files are uploaded as at this link:
> >>
> >> https://upquick.com/viewpix/
> >>
> >> Below is the simple code example:
> >>
> >> Click to view each image:
> >>
> >> the end
> >> todo list
> >> together
> >> toilet paper
> >> TP wedding dress
> >> Turkey Bacon
> >> 
> >> But none of the examples below work on my computer. Why?
> >> Splash 1
> >> Splash 2
> >> On the command line this works: vlc
> >> splash.mp4  
> >> What would be the simplest code to be able to
> >> just click on a menu link to view an mp4 video?
>
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Re: ssh

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I believe vnc is named vino on mint. You use it to connect to the desktop
like teamviewer. Then you can set things up on the nuc. You could also just
connect a keyboard mouse and monitor.

You want to set up your nuc to share the drive on the network. Then mount
the share on the other machine. Google setting up NFS on mint



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> Thanks for the tips Michael and Shaun! I'm not to concerned about
> security I will only be using it between two machines which are
> right next to each other to drag files betw. wait! I can't do that
>  with a vnc. Darn. Looks like I'm stuck with filezilla!
>
> On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 11:39 AM Michael Butash  wrote:
> >
> > You need a vnc server, of which there are multiple.  Try "apt search
> vnc".  Google for a decent one these days how to install it.
> >
> > I never much like VNC, not much security to it.
> >
> > As much as it pains me to admit, rdp with windows is a pretty robust
> solution, and know there's xrdp, but needs to usually work with vnc, still
> lacks most rdp security features, and never had any good luck getting it
> all working.  Linux is just sort of bad about remote desktop handling in
> general, at least compared to windows.
> >
> > -mb
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 8:34 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> apparently it is not on MINT and it is not available  in apt.
> >>
> >> sudo apt-get install vnc
> >> [sudo] password for bmike1:
> >> Reading package lists... Done
> >> Building dependency tree
> >> Reading state information... Done
> >> E: Unable to locate package vnc
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 11:03 AM Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss
> >>  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Team viewer runs on Linux too. Vnc  is already installed on most
> Linux distro's
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, May 7, 2020, 7:51 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for telling me about nomachine. that is what I was looking
> for!
> >> >> it is like team viewer but made for linux and by that I assume more
> >> >> secure than team viewer!
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 6:21 PM Michael  wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > yes I used this before. i think i'll use this.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 6:00 PM Todd Cole via PLUG-discuss
> >> >> >  wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > filezilla is a gui sftp over ssh easy to use and available in
> most dist
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 2:50 PM Donald Mac McCarthy via
> PLUG-discuss  wrote:
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> You can also use the NoMachine software as well, it works quite
> nicely
> >> >> > >> over an SSH connection.
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Mac
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote on 5/6/20 2:19 PM:
> >> >> > >> > Thanks, I'll check it out.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 5:19 PM Shaun Anderson <
> shaunanderso...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > >> >> Alexander was correct...it's openssh-server.  Graphically
> will depend on the desktop you're using.
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> You can setup NFS to mount another computer as a local
> drive.  See this link for configuring autofs
> >> >> > >> >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >>
> >> >> > >> >> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 2:16 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> >> >> > >> >>> Thanks! What about doing it graphically?
> >> >> > >> >>>
> >> >> > >> >>> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 4:25 PM Snyder, Alexander J
> >> >> > >> >>>  wrote:
> >> >> > >> >>>> Search for openssh 

Re: ssh

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

Team viewer runs on Linux too. Vnc  is already installed on most Linux
distro's



On Thu, May 7, 2020, 7:51 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
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> Thanks for telling me about nomachine. that is what I was looking for!
> it is like team viewer but made for linux and by that I assume more
> secure than team viewer!
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 6:21 PM Michael  wrote:
> >
> > yes I used this before. i think i'll use this.
> >
> > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 6:00 PM Todd Cole via PLUG-discuss
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > filezilla is a gui sftp over ssh easy to use and available in most dist
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 2:50 PM Donald Mac McCarthy via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> You can also use the NoMachine software as well, it works quite nicely
> > >> over an SSH connection.
> > >>
> > >> Mac
> > >>
> > >> Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote on 5/6/20 2:19 PM:
> > >> > Thanks, I'll check it out.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 5:19 PM Shaun Anderson <
> shaunanderso...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> Alexander was correct...it's openssh-server.  Graphically will
> depend on the desktop you're using.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> You can setup NFS to mount another computer as a local drive.  See
> this link for configuring autofs
> > >> >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 2:16 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> > >> >>> Thanks! What about doing it graphically?
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 4:25 PM Snyder, Alexander J
> > >> >>>  wrote:
> > >>  Search for openssh or openssh-server or something like that. I
> forget the actual package name, but "Open SSH" is what you want.
> > >> 
> > >>  I'm pretty sure it's comes by default on all major distributions.
> > >> 
> > >>  s...@newserver.com
> > >> 
> > >>  Thanks,
> > >>  Alexander
> > >> 
> > >>  Sent from my Galaxy S10+
> > >> 
> > >>  On Wed, May 6, 2020, 13:03 Michael via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> > >> > I'm going to want the business computer to talk to the main
> one. You
> > >> > do that via ssh? I seem to remember that you needed ssh-server
> (or
> > >> > something like that) installed on at least one of the computers
> but
> > >> > apt-get install ssh shows that nothing like that is on
> > >> > apt What's the deal?
> > >> >
> > >> > What I would really like is for one of the computers to just
> appear on
> > >> > the other computer as if it were like an external drive.
> > >> >
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Re: NUC as new drive?

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

If all you want is an extra drive for your PC then just get an extra drive.
How much data/files are you planning to put on this SSD ?
The closer an SSD gets to being full, the faster it starts wearing out.

If you are going to make it a Nas, I would put a bigger drive in it.. think
of the nuc as a mini PC that you can dedicate  to some task, whether it's a
Nas, a home theater, or an everyday system for browsing and reading mail.

I wouldn't recommend it for gaming. Though it could probably run some
simple games.


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> NAS? I'll wait until I get the stuff and then you can tell me how. I
> got more memory and a 240GB SSD
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:41 AM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss
>  wrote:
> >
> > A Nuc is a full-on computer.
> https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/71484/intel-nuc-kit-dccp847dye.html
> >
> > You might have better results turning it into a small NAS device.
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 6:21 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> My father gave me an old NUC (DCCP847DYE) that needed an SSD. I I
> >> ordered the SSD yesterday and am awaiting it now and I was hoping to
> >> just use the NUC as an external USB drive. Is it as simple as
> >> connecting the two computers with a USB cord? or will I have to use an
> >> ethernet cable?
> >>
> >> --
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> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
> >
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Re: BBB testing Sunday evening

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

Hey Hans,

I set a reminder for tonight, I don't have a camera which is where I got
stuck last time but I'll give it a try.

Bob




On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 1:58 AM der.hans via PLUG-discuss <
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> moin moin,
>
> If you're interested in helping me test BigBlueButton please join me
> Sunday night at 22:00. Sorry for being late, but that's when I can be
> avaialble to participate.
>
> https://lufthans.bigbluemeeting.com/b/der-49z-7u7
>
> Pass code: 630680
>
> They've added an option to generate a random passcode in the last week.
>
> Among the things I'd like feedback on are:
>
> * Could you connect with just a browser without needing to install addons
> or apps?
>
> * How long did it take to do the sound test?
>
> * Could you see other people when you first joined?
>
> * Could you join without the passcode?
>
> * What are sound and video quality like for you?
>
> ciao,
>
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Re: wine temp files question ...

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

The fact that the name of the directory is temp means you can delete it.

I wouldn't give the files a second thought.

I would try and figure out which program is leaving them. If it is PSP then
maybe it has something to do with running it in wine.

Delete all the files run PSP and then check it again. Keep checking until
you find it.





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> Still hoping for an answer for this:
>
> Subject: Question re .wine Temp files ...
> Date:Sun, April 12, 2020 12:01 pm
> To:  plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org
>
> I just discovered a thousand or so huge .tmp files
> in a /hme/joe/.wine/drive_c/Users/joe/Temp subdirectory
> dating back to 2017 and I have no idea what is in those
> files. most are 1 to 3 megabyte each.
>
> The most recent are 30 files from April 6, 2020 over
> a span of about 10 minutes, but none since then even
> though I have been using the one and only program that
> I use under .wine and older version of Paint Shop Pro 7
> (which works great, by the way)
>
> I tried to view some of the files with several different
> image viewers to see what was in them, but no success.
>
> Any suggestions how I might find out what is in any of
> those files? and/or if it would be risky to delete all
> of those otherwise apparently space-wasting files?
>
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Re: video card for watching videos

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

In that case the rx580 seems to be the best bet if you go with AMD,  if you
use the first link I posted before and look to the left you'll see the
comparable Nvidia cards. Then search for the prices for each.
You might even look at the Rx 5500 xt



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> I have an Nvidia Geforce GT 520.  I can't spend more than $150, but would
> like to keep it lower if possible.
> On 4/24/20 8:19 AM, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>
> You haven't said what you want to spend, or what you currently have ?
>
> This link compares Nvidia vs AMD video cards and groups them in tiers so
> you can see the counterparts
> https://www.logicalincrements.com/articles/graphicscardcomparison
> I prefer AMD, on the 580 vs 5600 I think the new draws less power and is
> faster, if you can spend about $100 more
> this link compares the two
>
> https://www.gpucheck.com/compare/amd-radeon-rx-580-vs-amd-radeon-rx-5600-xt/intel-core-i7-7700k-4-20ghz-vs-intel-core-i7-8700k-3-70ghz/
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 4:18 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for a new video card.  I'll use it mainly for watching
>> videos.  I'm looking for something that will play h265 video and not bog
>> down my system.  What should I look for in a video card?  thanks
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Re: video card for watching videos

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

You haven't said what you want to spend, or what you currently have ?

This link compares Nvidia vs AMD video cards and groups them in tiers so
you can see the counterparts
https://www.logicalincrements.com/articles/graphicscardcomparison
I prefer AMD, on the 580 vs 5600 I think the new draws less power and is
faster, if you can spend about $100 more
this link compares the two
https://www.gpucheck.com/compare/amd-radeon-rx-580-vs-amd-radeon-rx-5600-xt/intel-core-i7-7700k-4-20ghz-vs-intel-core-i7-8700k-3-70ghz/

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> I'm looking for a new video card.  I'll use it mainly for watching
> videos.  I'm looking for something that will play h265 video and not bog
> down my system.  What should I look for in a video card?  thanks
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Re: video conferencing last night

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

Out of last night's test, I think jitsi went the best,


On Wed, Apr 8, 2020, 7:26 PM Bob Elzer  wrote:

> I'm currently connected to last night's jitsi stream this time using
> chrome  if anyone wants to try it again
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020, 7:13 PM der.hans via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> Am 08. Apr, 2020 schwätzte Stephen Partington so:
>>
>> > I am an SSL certificate away from getting a big blue button server up.
>> I am
>> > not 100% sure of how well it will do.
>> >
>> > If it works out I should have the bandwidth to support our meetings and
>> If
>> > I can get the cert in time would not mind testing it with plug and even
>> > using for some of our meetings.
>>
>> That's awesome. Thanks for the offer! I'm certain we can help with the
>> testing.
>>
>> Perhaps a presentation on BBB next month is in order :).
>>
>> Mac has us setup for tomorrow. The waiting room even mentions it's for
>> PLUG and gives tomorrow's date and time.
>>
>> ciao,
>>
>> der.hans
>>
>> > On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 4:52 PM der.hans via PLUG-discuss <
>> > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> moin moin,
>> >>
>> >> it did not go well
>> >>
>> >> We were chatting in jitsi prior to starting, but once I started the
>> >> meeting I could no longer hear others.
>> >>
>> >> We moved to bluejeans and a couple of us were not able to connect.
>> >>
>> >> Afterwards I tested zoom with Mac. Had some issues there as well. Sound
>> >> kept getting reset. Perhaps that's what was happening with jitsi. As I
>> >> wasn't presenting in zoom, we took time to get my client reset.
>> >>
>> >> I haven't had that type of problem with either jitsi or zoom in the
>> past.
>> >> Perhaps it was something I was doing last night.
>> >>
>> >> In testing zoom, I discovered that attendees have to present a name and
>> >> email address. Neither have to be accurate and the domain doesn't need
>> to
>> >> exist.
>> >>
>> >> We were able to test making me a host, giving attendees the mic and
>> taking
>> >> it away. We're up for more testing tonight if anyone wants to get
>> familiar
>> >> with the host tools. Not too complicated, but it some unexpected
>> places.
>> >>
>> >> zoom requires an app or browser plugin. You can't just use a browser
>> as we
>> >> can with jitsi and BigBlueButton.
>> >>
>> >> We can configure zoom to not allowing anyone into the conference until
>> the
>> >> host shows up to avoid a Slap Shot style pre-game. (diable Join by
>> host)
>> >>
>> >> We can also put attendees in their own waiting rooms until a host
>> places
>> >> them in the conference. (enable Waiting room)
>> >>
>> >> Mac also pointed out that zoom can live stream to YouTube. We can also
>> do
>> >> that with jitsi. We could then setup the video conferencing for only
>> >> speakers and moderators and everyone else views via YouTube. We then
>> take
>> >> questions via IRC or other mechanism. I believe we can do a hidden
>> YouTube
>> >> broadcast that goes away after the meeting. We could use Brian's
>> account
>> >> for that or setup a new account.
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Re: video conferencing last night

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

I'm currently connected to last night's jitsi stream this time using
chrome  if anyone wants to try it again


On Wed, Apr 8, 2020, 7:13 PM der.hans via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> Am 08. Apr, 2020 schwätzte Stephen Partington so:
>
> > I am an SSL certificate away from getting a big blue button server up. I
> am
> > not 100% sure of how well it will do.
> >
> > If it works out I should have the bandwidth to support our meetings and
> If
> > I can get the cert in time would not mind testing it with plug and even
> > using for some of our meetings.
>
> That's awesome. Thanks for the offer! I'm certain we can help with the
> testing.
>
> Perhaps a presentation on BBB next month is in order :).
>
> Mac has us setup for tomorrow. The waiting room even mentions it's for
> PLUG and gives tomorrow's date and time.
>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans
>
> > On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 4:52 PM der.hans via PLUG-discuss <
> > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> >
> >> moin moin,
> >>
> >> it did not go well
> >>
> >> We were chatting in jitsi prior to starting, but once I started the
> >> meeting I could no longer hear others.
> >>
> >> We moved to bluejeans and a couple of us were not able to connect.
> >>
> >> Afterwards I tested zoom with Mac. Had some issues there as well. Sound
> >> kept getting reset. Perhaps that's what was happening with jitsi. As I
> >> wasn't presenting in zoom, we took time to get my client reset.
> >>
> >> I haven't had that type of problem with either jitsi or zoom in the
> past.
> >> Perhaps it was something I was doing last night.
> >>
> >> In testing zoom, I discovered that attendees have to present a name and
> >> email address. Neither have to be accurate and the domain doesn't need
> to
> >> exist.
> >>
> >> We were able to test making me a host, giving attendees the mic and
> taking
> >> it away. We're up for more testing tonight if anyone wants to get
> familiar
> >> with the host tools. Not too complicated, but it some unexpected places.
> >>
> >> zoom requires an app or browser plugin. You can't just use a browser as
> we
> >> can with jitsi and BigBlueButton.
> >>
> >> We can configure zoom to not allowing anyone into the conference until
> the
> >> host shows up to avoid a Slap Shot style pre-game. (diable Join by host)
> >>
> >> We can also put attendees in their own waiting rooms until a host places
> >> them in the conference. (enable Waiting room)
> >>
> >> Mac also pointed out that zoom can live stream to YouTube. We can also
> do
> >> that with jitsi. We could then setup the video conferencing for only
> >> speakers and moderators and everyone else views via YouTube. We then
> take
> >> questions via IRC or other mechanism. I believe we can do a hidden
> YouTube
> >> broadcast that goes away after the meeting. We could use Brian's account
> >> for that or setup a new account.
> >>
> >> Let me know if you'd like to help with testing tonight.
> >>
> >> ciao,
> >>
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Re: standalone mic

[Bob Elzer]

Just my two cents or rather 99 cents

I have a teamspeak server so i use that a lot and before  I used a headset
to talk with people in game. What bugged me was that expensive headsets
would always wind up breaking the wires with no way to fix it. So I got
tired of buying new ones. I wound up buying a cellphone mic in a 99 cent
store and bought an adapter at radio shack that let me plug it into my
sound card. It worked sounded great so i bought five more, when the wire
broke I threw it out and used the next one. I found an old desktop mic and
gutted it out and inserted the mic I was using. I haven't had to replace it
yet. Still have 4 replacements if something does happen. I've seen others
buy expensive mics and sound bad and I have been using my same mic since
2010

If anyone wants to connect to my teamspeak and hear how it sounds let me
know

So find whatever works for you and don't think that it has to be an
expensive solution.



On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 4:42 PM der.hans  wrote:

> moin moin,
>
> With everyone else suddenly going online I need to finally improve some of
> my versatility.
>
> Any recommendations for microphones?
>
>
> Needs:
>
> * something that does well with voice, e.g. podcasts, presentations,
> meetings
>
> * something that will work for an acoustic instrument
>
> * works with laptops and desktops
>
> * can eliminate background noises
>
> * works with debian/Ubuntu
>
>
> Wants:
>
> * one mic to rule them all rather than needing multiple mics
>
> * works with cellphones
>
> * wired connection option
>
> * inexpensive
>
> * can be used in an open room with someone else joining the same chat room
> in a different room in the house without flashback sound effects
>
> * can be used in an open room with someone else joining the same chat room
> in a different room in the house with flashback sound effects because
> kidling thinks it's hilarious :)
>
>
> We already have that last feature with the current setup.
>
> For the most part, mic use can be in isolated parts of house. I might end
> up needing multiple mics. If so, preferably they'd all be the same, but
> that's not strictly a requirement. Most likely, I'll be buying one mic and
> multiple headsets with mics.
>
> Preferably, I'll be buying from Newegg.
>
> ciao,
>
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Re: How to get different wallpapers on linux mint kde 18.3

[Bob Elzer]

Abby, good point thanks Stephen

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 12:41 PM Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> Like me he was at one time a google + user is my guess. My picture likely
> will show up there as well.
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 11:41 AM Bob Elzer  wrote:
>
>> Sorry to crash this subject, but Micheal how did you get your picture to
>> come up in my gmail when you're not in my contacts lol
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 10:15 AM Michael Butash  wrote:
>>
>>> KDE loves different wallpapers, for some unfathomable reason.
>>> Apparently they haven't heard of high-resolution 11520x2160 resolution
>>> wallpapers that make my desktop look beautiful ala digitalblasphemy.com
>>> since the 90's.  Particularly you just need to right click on each
>>> desktop and set the background, I tend to do a rolling pattern of 4k
>>> displays when using KDE, otherwise I use 4Kx3 display images at full triple
>>> 4k resolution that are beautiful when the desktop (like kde) isn't stupid
>>> to disallow this.
>>>
>>> Cinnamon/mint do this, but do not let you split the screens per
>>> desktop.  One reason I really hate KDE still.  Give me my single
>>> framebuffer for 3x 4k displays!  Everything else does
>>>
>>> -mb
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 12:08 AM Joe Lowder  wrote:
>>>
>>>> How can I get different wallpapers on each virtual desktop with linux
>>>> mint kde 18.3 ?
>>>>
>>>> I have that working on one of my other computers with Mint 17.3, but I
>>>> can't figure out how to get it working on mint kde 18.3
>>>>
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Re: How to get different wallpapers on linux mint kde 18.3

[Bob Elzer]

Sorry to crash this subject, but Micheal how did you get your picture to
come up in my gmail when you're not in my contacts lol

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 10:15 AM Michael Butash  wrote:

> KDE loves different wallpapers, for some unfathomable reason.  Apparently
> they haven't heard of high-resolution 11520x2160 resolution wallpapers that
> make my desktop look beautiful ala digitalblasphemy.com since the 90's.  
> Particularly
> you just need to right click on each desktop and set the background, I tend
> to do a rolling pattern of 4k displays when using KDE, otherwise I use 4Kx3
> display images at full triple 4k resolution that are beautiful when the
> desktop (like kde) isn't stupid to disallow this.
>
> Cinnamon/mint do this, but do not let you split the screens per desktop.
> One reason I really hate KDE still.  Give me my single framebuffer for 3x
> 4k displays!  Everything else does
>
> -mb
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 12:08 AM Joe Lowder  wrote:
>
>> How can I get different wallpapers on each virtual desktop with linux
>> mint kde 18.3 ?
>>
>> I have that working on one of my other computers with Mint 17.3, but I
>> can't figure out how to get it working on mint kde 18.3
>>
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Re: A lot for CentOS 7, but for 8?

[Bob Elzer]

I waited a long time before going to CentOs 7 from 6 and by then there was
lots of information available. Since CentOs 8 is fairly new there's a lot
still needed.

I for one am hoping that mate desktop gets ported, I really don't like
gnome 3

Given a little time I think you'll start seeing more documentation on
things.


On Tue, Mar 3, 2020, 10:05 AM Jerry Snitselaar  wrote:

> On Tue Mar 03 20, Seabass wrote:
> >So, I’ve noticed a few places have made documentation for centOS 7, but
> not 8.
> >
> >Since 8 never had docs made for it, I’m wondering if there would be
> >consequences to using 7, since 8 exists.
> >For one of the things I’ve tried (phusion passenger and nginx install),
> install
> >configs and files are different enough to need 7.
> >
> >Can I assume 7 is still getting security updates?
> >Would there be any actual consequences to using 7 over 8 anytime in the
> near
> >future?
> >
> >
> >
>
> RHEL7 will go into maintenance support 2 phase later this year.
>
> https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata
>
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Re: Filesystem Optimization

[Bob Elzer]

Well if you create a new filesystem and do an rsync then there is nothing
to compare so the copy should go fast.

If you have 46k files and they need to be compared before overwriting then
that may take a little longer.

Try copying a 2gb file across your nfs and see how long that takes. I once
had a config error that caused my network copies to run slower than they
should.

Also run you rsync a second time to a full tmpfs and check the timing I
suspect it will take longer. Not sure how many of your files change, but
you might have to let some change to get a better reading.





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>
>
> I realize ext4 does not easily fragment, but when you have a large
> volume with lots of files of differing size, how can you optimize it?
>
> I have a 2TB mirrored array that has hundreds of thousands of less than
> 12KB files and hundreds of files that are more than 1MB and of course
> lots of movies and such which can be 1 to 4GB. Over the years it has
> gotten really slow.
>
> I have a shell script that basically runs rsync against my home
> directory and pushes it to a specific folder on my file server (part of
> this 2TB array).
>
> Typically the script runs in the wee hours when I'm asleep. But the
> other day I decided to run it just to watch it and see what happens. It
> was horrendously slow!
> I tried timing it. I ran time { rsync -av /home/myuser/.cache/
> remote:/backup/dir/.cache/; } and after 75 minutes I cancelled it. There
> are 46k files in that folder and it is roughly 2GB... 75 minutes it
> wasn't finished. Now this is running over an NFS link just FYI.
>
> So I created a 4GB tmpfs and mounted it where I needed and ran my time
> backup again and it took 2 minutes and 6 seconds. Obviously my network
> is not the issue.
>
> So today I'm trying to find places to store 2TB of data so I can
> rearrange things, but I'm wondering...
>
> Is there a program that watches and optimizes placement of files on a
> hard drive? I know these exist for windows, but linux?
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Re: Creating a kdenlive intro

[Bob Elzer]

If you mean making it look like old home movies here is a quick tutorial
https://youtu.be/qoly_IIyqyI



On Mon, Dec 16, 2019, 6:37 PM Aaron Jones  wrote:

> What’s the easiest way to make a retro themed intro in kdenlive?
>
> Are there templates available or a place to get premade video stuff?
>
> Thanks,
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Re: Learning Python

[Bob Elzer]

I have so many O'Reilly books I used to lear programming and Systems. My
first were Learning Perl and Perl Cookbook.

While I haven't learned Python, I would think the Learning Python and
Python Cookbook would be good books.

On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 6:31 PM Phil Waclawski 
wrote:

> VS Code is actually not bad (I still can't believe I'm saying this about a
> MS product, what is the world coming to?) I have my students use pycharm
> (the community version) which is also good.
>
> There are so many books to learn from, check out packt publishing, they
> have a free series that you can access online, if you want to download it
> as a file (pdf mobi etc) or a paper book, that will cost you a bit, but not
> bad.
>
> Phil W
>
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 5:57 PM AZ Pete  wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm interested in learning Python and thought I'd ask the PLUG brain
>> trust on some recommendations for books.
>>
>> My main interest in learning Python is more for data analysis
>> (Statistics, AI, etc), not web programming. I'm a SQL Server DBA/Developer
>> and recent versions of SQL Server have the ability to run Python within the
>> database engine as another avenue for data analysis. I'm also interested in
>> moving toward more data analysis/BI roles and Python fits the bill quite
>> well. I have 20 years of DBA experience, so I don't necessarily need
>> beginner level programming books. But having said that, I have no
>> experience with Python at all.
>>
>> I've found countless video tutorials on Python (Pluralsight, EdX,
>> Coursera, etc.), but I still prefer book learning, especially books that
>> teach a concept and then give you "homework" assignments to practice.
>>
>> Any recommendation on Python books for programming (not website stuff,
>> though) would be very much appreciated.
>> Also, recommendations for an IDE on Windows would be appreciated. I
>> already use VS Code for Powershell development, so maybe that will be ok
>> for Python?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Peter
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Re: recovery

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It's kind of like windows safe mode boot.

The recovery kernel boots with enough stuff for you to do maintenance or
recovery work on your system. Like performing a chkdisk or maybe restoring
a tar file or other things.


On Fri, Nov 15, 2019, 8:37 AM Michael  wrote:

> yes but I was wondering about the recovery kernels.
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 10:29 AM Bob Elzer  wrote:
>
>> There is a setting that lets you specify how many previous versions of
>> the kernel to show on the boot screen. Whenever the kernel is updated the
>> new kernel will be listed as the first and selected kernel on the boot
>> screen, with the previous kernels listed below it followed by the recovery
>> kernel.
>>
>> You can interrupt the countdown to the boot process by hitting the ESC
>> key.
>>
>> After which you can use the up and down keys to select the kernel you
>> want to boot followed by the return key.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019, 7:12 AM Michael  wrote:
>>
>>> There ia a screen in which you can select which kernel you wish to load.
>>> it gives a list of kernels and every other one is a recovery kernel. How do
>>> you use those kernels?
>>>
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Re: recovery

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There is a setting that lets you specify how many previous versions of the
kernel to show on the boot screen. Whenever the kernel is updated the new
kernel will be listed as the first and selected kernel on the boot screen,
with the previous kernels listed below it followed by the recovery kernel.

You can interrupt the countdown to the boot process by hitting the ESC key.

After which you can use the up and down keys to select the kernel you want
to boot followed by the return key.


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> There ia a screen in which you can select which kernel you wish to load.
> it gives a list of kernels and every other one is a recovery kernel. How do
> you use those kernels?
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Re: what does it mean

[Bob Elzer]

Use the command "last"

It can tell you when the machine was rebooted or crashed
Then look at the programs that crashed during that time with the abrt
program.

With CentOs 7 the alsa sound routines caused problems on my system in the
early days. They have been fixed now.





On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 12:45 PM Michael  wrote:

> I found something that might work. Thanks, Bob.
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 10:28 AM Bob Elzer  wrote:
>
>> CentOs has a program called gnome-abrt  it is the automatic bug reporting
>> tool
>>
>> It shows a list of programs that have crashed along with the dump data.
>> It also includes kernel crashes.
>>
>> See if you have a similar program on your OS
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 8:16 AM Michael  wrote:
>>
>>> memtest reported: pass complete- no errors
>>> it took about an hour. should it have taken longer?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 3:44 AM  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Run memtest...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michael writes:
>>>>
>>>> > It doesn't happen often bu every once in a while the computer
>>>> freezes. I
>>>> > then do a hard reboot (push the button until it turns off) and when
>>>> it is
>>>> > powering on nothing loads not even the BIOS screen (the first
>>>> screen
>>>> > that appears after pushing the power button). Any ideas as to what is
>>>> going
>>>> > on?
>>>> >
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Re: what does it mean

[Bob Elzer]

CentOs has a program called gnome-abrt  it is the automatic bug reporting
tool

It shows a list of programs that have crashed along with the dump data. It
also includes kernel crashes.

See if you have a similar program on your OS


On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 8:16 AM Michael  wrote:

> memtest reported: pass complete- no errors
> it took about an hour. should it have taken longer?
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 3:44 AM  wrote:
>
>> Run memtest...
>>
>>
>> Michael writes:
>>
>> > It doesn't happen often bu every once in a while the computer freezes. I
>> > then do a hard reboot (push the button until it turns off) and when it
>> is
>> > powering on nothing loads not even the BIOS screen (the first screen
>> > that appears after pushing the power button). Any ideas as to what is
>> going
>> > on?
>> >
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Re: Is it screw with your admin day?

[Bob Elzer]

>From the rm manual page: To remove a file  whose name starts with a '-' for
example '-foo' use one of these commands
rm --   -foo
rm  ./-foo


I knew the double dash one not the other

It's nice to know someone realized this could happen and provided a
solution.



On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, 4:57 AM Eric Oyen  wrote:

> Put quotes around it. That’s how I handle any filename with strange
> characters or something that happens to match a flag for a particular CLI
> utility or 2.
>
> -Eric
> From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Debugging and Revisions
> Dept.
>
>
> > On Nov 1, 2019, at 6:56 PM, Seabass  wrote:
> >
> > I suddenly found the folder “-p” in my home directory, one day...
> >
> > “ ls -p”
> > -p/
> >
> > “ ls -p/”
> > / is not a flag option
> >
> > ”ls *”
> > -p
> >
> > “ls */*”
> > No file nor directory...
> >
> > “rm -p”
> > -p isn’t a flag
> >
> > So
> > I dunno about you guys, but this sucked figuring out how to handle.
> > It can be removed with
> > “rm -r ./-p/“
> > But everything else makes it into a flag.
> >
> > Moral of the story:
> > If a file like “-a” shows up and it’s existence bothers you,
> > DON’T TRY REMOVING IT WITHOUT
> > “./“ or some other path behind it!
> >
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Re: CentOS 8

[Bob Elzer]

I run 7 with the mate desktop. I'm wondering when that will be ready.

I have 8 in a VM as well. What I plan on doing is working on a kick-start
script that will install everything that I want and automate some of the
initial setup

I use iptables now and need to check out nftables to see how compatible it
is.

Have to see if any of my web pages break on 8

Lots of little thing to check.

Next cloud should now work better

Probably stuff I'm forgetting





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alexan...@snyderfamily.co> wrote:

> Has anyone done any real work with CentOS 8 yet?
>
> I've played around with it on a VM, but nothing substantial.
>
> I'm preparing to move my home servers over to it on the 1st.  Can anyone
> share any pitfalls they've had with it?  Anything to avoid, or anything I
> need to know, would be very helpful.
>
> Home Servers will be running SabNZB, Sonarr, Radarr, and Plex.
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: impress?

[Bob Elzer]

Here is the site which has plenty of templates

https://extensions.libreoffice.org/templates

It even has a category  for brochure/pamphlet


On Fri, Sep 27, 2019, 9:50 AM Michael  wrote:

> I'm looking for some way to make a pamphlet. What is the best way? Do I
> need to download a template? Where do I download it to? I tried just using
> Writer but it doesn't act the way I want it too when pictures are involved
> (I can't get a space between the picture and the text  when the alignment
> is set to justify.
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Re: impress?

[Bob Elzer]

Impress is similar to PowerPoint which makes slide presentation's.

Use writer, you can probably find a template in there.


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> need to download a template? Where do I download it to? I tried just using
> Writer but it doesn't act the way I want it too when pictures are involved
> (I can't get a space between the picture and the text  when the alignment
> is set to justify.
>
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Re: OT: Non-Geek wants honest Registrar and Host service

[Bob Elzer]

Google domains is $12 a year.

No extra fees. You can even hide your info for Free.



On Fri, Aug 30, 2019, 12:51 PM Andrew McRobb  wrote:

> Sadly a lot of those "button-pressing" hosting services are going to cost
> a bit more money vs firing up a instance on AWS or Droplet. Plus if all
> your friend needs is Wordpress and email. What's wrong with firing up an
> EC2 instance for like 10/20 bucks a month and Namecheap for the DNS? Heck
> you can get an email provider that does the heavy lifting for 5 bucks a
> month if email is a huge concern.
>
> With tons of migration tools for MySQL and rsync, migration should be a
> breeze if you know what you are doing. Let me know if I'm missing something
> here.
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 12:43 PM Victor Odhner  wrote:
>
>> A friend who is totally non-technical wants to move their WordPress from
>> the current registry and hosting service, and is looking for is good
>> providers of registry and hosting, with the most honest reputations within
>> a reasonable cost.
>>
>> A few years ago I worked with NameCheap, and have heard fairly good
>> stories.
>>
>> I’ve heard some registrars are in a better chance to negotiate transfer
>> of a name which may be owned by the current registrar.
>>
>> I’m pretty sure my friend was spoon-fed the setup with a single phone
>> call, and might find a change too complicated. I am personally free of [
>> *largest-of-local-providers*], so my bias is towards running away from [
>> *that*], but I don’t really know what choices are “out there” for
>> innocent button-pressing clients.
>>
>> Thanks for any advice,
>> Victor Odhner
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Re: Printer Time

[Bob Elzer]

P.S. I use the brother HL-2170W foomatic driver in my Linux setup

On Tue, Aug 27, 2019, 5:23 PM Nathan  wrote:

>
> Hey All,
>
> I'm in the market for a new printer. I tend to only print b/w and about
> 200 - 250 pages a month. I would really prefer something with an
> ethernet cable over wifi, but as long as it has network connectivity
> it's good.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
> P.S. I apologize if anyone got this twice, I forgot to switch "from"
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Re: Printer Time

[Bob Elzer]

Check out this brother laser printer, I have an older model that I'm happy
with

https://www.amazon.com/Compact-Laser-Printer-HL-L2370DW-Wireless/dp/B076Q1FK19/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_229_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=K4W40PV2EHVJSQY0HRJS



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> Hey All,
>
> I'm in the market for a new printer. I tend to only print b/w and about
> 200 - 250 pages a month. I would really prefer something with an
> ethernet cable over wifi, but as long as it has network connectivity
> it's good.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
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Re: System building trouble

[Bob Elzer]

Glad to hear it's working.


On Mon, Aug 12, 2019, 11:30 AM Adam Mercer  wrote:

> Hi
>
> Just an update regarding this, I initiated an RMA and the replacement
> board arrived this morning. Connected it up and it worked first time!
>
> Thanks everyone for the help with this!
>
> Cheers
>
> Adam
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 4:32 PM Adam Mercer  wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Just started building a new Ryzen 3000 system and having some issues,
> > after installing the CPU, cooler, CPU fan cables, RAM, and GPU I
> > connected the power supply cables to the motherboard and attempt to
> > power on. The fan in the PSU doesn't spin up and the CPU cooler fans
> > don't spin either.
> >
> > Prior to connecting the PSU I used the supplied test tool connected to
> > the 24pin connector and with that the PSU fan spun up without issue,
> > so I believe the PSU is good.
> >
> > I've reseated all the cables, RAM, CPU, and GPU and the same occurs.
> > I've got a support request out to Gigabyte but in the meantime has
> > anyone got another other suggestions of things to try and troubleshoot
> > this?
> >
> > I've tried both in and out of the case with the same outcome.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
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Re: Bootable CD ...

[Bob Elzer]

wouldn't it be easier to create a bootable usb drive using unetbootin?

https://unetbootin.github.io/



On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, 4:24 PM Michael Butash  wrote:

> I'd check out clonezilla bootable images, I've booted a server on a vm and
> started imaging other vms with it before, it's pretty cool.  Using the
> lite-server might add a quickie option to get it booted over the network.
> Note: this puts a dhcp on your network, which will probably conflict with
> your lan router, so use a crossover cable if possible or a separate
> switch/vlan.
>
>
> https://clonezilla.org/show-live-doc-content.php?topic=clonezilla-live/doc/11_lite_server
> https://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-SE/
>
> -mb
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 3:43 PM Harold Hartley 
> wrote:
>
>> Download an image for installing over network from whatever distro you
>> want to use. Then burn it to cd and install on computer and it will run and
>> connect to the the distro site and will start to install the files.
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, at 15:31, Snyder, Alexander J wrote:
>>
>> I've never installed _anything_ over the network.
>>
>> Can you give me a solid tutorial to follow?
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 11:44 AM Harold Hartley 
>> wrote:
>> > __
>> > It won’t recognize the usb ssd unless you upgrade the bios.
>> >
>> > On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, at 11:41, Snyder, Alexander J wrote:
>> >> The internal drive is recognized by the BIOS, but fails to spin up.
>> >>
>> >> The Laptop was built in 2009 by Puget Systems (
>> https://www.pugetsystems.com/), so yes, the hardware is old, but I
>> highly doubt it's "Too Old" for Linux. I found another USB SSD I bought the
>> same time as the laptop, so I'm going to try and format that and see if it
>> works as a bootable device.
>> >>
>> >> Trying to get CentOS 7 on it, but I'm flirting with the idea of trying
>> Manjaro on it.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, 10:50 Matthew Gibson <
>> guanjun.de.geliq...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Does it have the ability to boot from network? Didn't you say that
>> the laptop has an internal DVD/CD drive? Could your install media need to
>> be locked in some way after the burn is complete? Is the ISO too new to
>> work with old hard ware?
>> >> >
>> >> > These are a few of my thoughts. I'll see if I can find my own drives
>> to burn a disc for you.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, 8:57 AM Snyder, Alexander J <
>> alexan...@snyderfamily.co> wrote:
>> >> >> I wasn't able to go to Installfest, we had guests.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> After they left, I went hunting in the garage and found an old
>> DVD-R (USB). I went to Best Buyand got a few blank DVDs. So, it won't read
>> from a 2019 USB-SSD, but it'll boot from a ~2015 USB-DVD drive?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I can get into the CentOS 7 setup but it fails to verify the media,
>> and refuses to continue. When I skip verify, it still fails by saying the
>> media is not fit for install.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So now I'm really confused.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> Alexander
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sent from my Galaxy S10+
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, 08:43 Matt Graham 
>> wrote:
>> >> >>> On 2019-08-03 10:49, Snyder, Alexander J wrote:
>> >> >>> > Does anyone have a bootable Linux CD?
>> >> >>> > I don't have a burner, or discs. So I'm asking for help!
>> >> >>> > Can someone burn CentOS7 minimal for me?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Did you get a CD from Installfest? If not, I have a DVD+-RW and a
>> CD-R
>> >> >>> blank somewhere around here. Reply with your snail-mail address if
>> you
>> >> >>> still need help.
>> >> >>>
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Re: System building trouble

[Bob Elzer]

That seems to be enough, I wish you had access to an 850w to try it.

My only other thought would be to check to make sure the cooler fan is
plugged in correctly and that it is plugged into the correct fan header. I
think some motherboards won't boot if a fan isn't detected.



On Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 1:29 AM Eric Oyen  wrote:

> It could be infancy failure of the board, or GPU or CPU. The board is most
> likely suspect if the supply works otherwise.
>
> -Eric
> From the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Parts is parts Dept.
>
> > On Jul 29, 2019, at 11:09 PM, Adam Mercer  wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 9:24 PM Bob Elzer  wrote:
> >
> >> You could go to PCPartPicker and build a system with all your exact
> parts and see if it gives you a warning about the wattage
> >
> > I used PCPartPicker to assemble the list and check compatibility. That
> > gave me a power usage of just shy of about 370W so I doubled that and
> > selected a 750W to be on the safe side.
> >
> >> You could also list your parts here too. Did you get a x570 Mb? I hear
> those draw more power too.
> >
> > It is a x570 board. It's a beast with a lot of upgrade potential.
> >
> > The parts list is here:
> >
> > https://pcpartpicker.com/user/skymoo/saved/gtVdXL
> >
> > Cheers
> >
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Re: System building trouble

[Bob Elzer]

I agree, but he didn't list his specific hardware he could be interfacing
it with a Doc Brown Delorean.


On Mon, Jul 29, 2019, 9:40 PM Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> Unless he has an old fury or 8800 ultra the 750 should be fine.
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019, 9:24 PM Bob Elzer  wrote:
>
>> I would think 750w power supply would be enough? But I have older stuff
>>
>> You could go to PCPartPicker and build a system with all your exact parts
>> and see if it gives you a warning about the wattage
>>
>> You could also list your parts here too. Did you get a x570 Mb? I hear
>> those draw more power too.
>>
>> GPU does also.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019, 5:19 PM Adam Mercer  wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 4:59 PM Stephen Partington 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > This is possible. do you have a spare PSU to test on the board? It
>>> could be a simple compatibility issue
>>>
>>> I do not, this build is to replace an aging iMac.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
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Re: System building trouble

[Bob Elzer]

I would think 750w power supply would be enough? But I have older stuff

You could go to PCPartPicker and build a system with all your exact parts
and see if it gives you a warning about the wattage

You could also list your parts here too. Did you get a x570 Mb? I hear
those draw more power too.

GPU does also.




On Mon, Jul 29, 2019, 5:19 PM Adam Mercer  wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 4:59 PM Stephen Partington 
> wrote:
>
> > This is possible. do you have a spare PSU to test on the board? It could
> be a simple compatibility issue
>
> I do not, this build is to replace an aging iMac.
>
> Cheers
>
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Re: System building trouble

[Bob Elzer]

How man watts is the power supply?

If the  the power supply is not enough it won't power up.

I had the same thing happen on a previous build.


On Mon, Jul 29, 2019, 4:33 PM Adam Mercer  wrote:

> Hi
>
> Just started building a new Ryzen 3000 system and having some issues,
> after installing the CPU, cooler, CPU fan cables, RAM, and GPU I
> connected the power supply cables to the motherboard and attempt to
> power on. The fan in the PSU doesn't spin up and the CPU cooler fans
> don't spin either.
>
> Prior to connecting the PSU I used the supplied test tool connected to
> the 24pin connector and with that the PSU fan spun up without issue,
> so I believe the PSU is good.
>
> I've reseated all the cables, RAM, CPU, and GPU and the same occurs.
> I've got a support request out to Gigabyte but in the meantime has
> anyone got another other suggestions of things to try and troubleshoot
> this?
>
> I've tried both in and out of the case with the same outcome.
>
> Cheers
>
> Adam
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Re: Configure ktorrent for fastest downloads

[Bob Elzer]

sign up for gigabit download speeds

actually that won't guarantee anything, what determines down speed is the
upload speeds of the hosts.

most of the settings are for telling ktorrent how many concurrent downloads
you want and and how many connections to each torrent you want. make sure
you have enough.

after that it depends on how many seeders are offering the torrent and
their uplod speeds

if you have a torrent with one seeder then you are at his mercy if he is
online or not

there are settings in ktorrent to slow down transfers so you dont take up
all your bandwidth, but those are off by default.



On Sun, Jun 23, 2019, 10:36 AM Jim  wrote:

> I'm looking to configure ktorrent for the fastest possible downloads.
> I know there are many things that can affect how fast something
> downloads via bittorrent, but I'm looking to get the best speeds
> possible.  Any help will be appreciated.  Thanks
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Re: OT: html code to open a document in kwrite?

[Bob Elzer]

I think we are getting into overkill, He said he just wanted to click on
something to run the command.

Desktop icon would be the fastest and easiest to do.


On Wed, Jun 5, 2019, 9:34 AM azlobo73  wrote:

> A related option that might work depending on the browser used is webdav,
> but actually it would need to call a local file manager to do the lifting:
>
> Here's an example setup via ownCloud and KDE / Dolphin (just as an
> example):
>
>
> https://doc.owncloud.com/server/user_manual/files/access_webdav.html#accessing-files-with-kde-and-dolphin-file-manager
>
> One would hope that the functionality would be wired into the protocol
> (webdav:// or webdavs://) so if a link is crafted with it, the appropriate
> file manager launches to handle it.
>
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>
> python -c "exec(\"import math\\nprint ''.join(map(lambda x: chr(x), (
> (ord('a')-(3*5)), int(math.sqrt(math.pi*76)*5+2),
> int(math.ceil(math.e)*28), int(math.floor(math.e)*35),
> long(abs(4%3*35+3)*2\")"
>
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 11:29 AM Matt Graham  wrote:
>
>> >>> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 10:16 AM Joe Lowder 
>> >>> wrote:
>>  $ kwrite filename 
>>  But I would like to be able to do it by simply
>>  clicking on an entry in a simple html menu.
>> 
>>  These attempts do not work:
>>  open notes text file
>>
>> As I said the last time you posted this about a year ago:  If you have
>> an HTML file on your local disk opened with Konqueror, and that HTML
>> file has a link like this, you can
>> right-click on that link and get a KDE menu where one of the choices is
>> "Open with".  Kate and kwrite are choices available here.  While this is
>> not a single-click solution, it's a heck of a lot easier than almost
>> anything else anyone has mentioned.
>>
>> On 2019-05-31 12:02, Michael Butash wrote:
>> > Keep in mind, what you're asking to do (I think) is essentially
>> > allowing html and hosted files to transcend the browser to open files
>> > in the os and launch a file with a given application
>>
>> See above.  When the HTML file and the files it's linking to are all on
>> a local filesystem, as is the case here, the rules get relaxed.
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Re: OT: html code to open a document in kwrite?

[Bob Elzer]

My 2 cents

So it sounds you just don't want to type the command?

Setting this up in a browser makes you open the browser and then open the
page and then click on the link.

I think the simplest solution would be to add an entry to the system menu
or an icon to the panel or desktop.

Depending on you distribution the steps will be different, but somewhat
similar.

If you right click on the desktop there should be an entry to create a
launcher

Give it a name, add the command you want and you can even customize the
icon and save it.

Now you can click on it and it will do what you want.

You can also drag the icon to the panel or menu.



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> Thanks for all comments and suggestions.
>
> 
> May 31, 2019 Brian Cluff wrote:
> > Are you trying to make a list that can let you edit
> > files on the local hard drive or are you trying to
> > edit files on a server?
> 
>
> Just want to edit files on my local hard drive
> something like this simple
>
>  small menu test 
>
> Small menu test: The objective is simply to be able to 
> tap to open each example file with the kwrite text editor 
> from a menu list, edit the named file, save that file, 
> and upon save and close, go right back to the menu.
>
> note1 text file
> note2 text file
> note3 text file
>
> 
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Re: Linux Mint mutes parts of music

[Bob Elzer]

I thought you were having problems in other players?
was top saying clementine was using 10% ? how much was pulse taking as
clementine was running? Any other programs listed in top as you are using
clementine?
Check if clementine has a fade in delay.
Odd tones makes me think corrupt files, which could be the sign of a disk
going bad
Same with blank audio
You say it worked fine for a year, and you did no updates, that would make
me think a hardware issue.
You could look at iostat on the disk or check the number of bad sectors
with smart tools





On Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 9:49 AM Victor Odhner  wrote:

> Victor M.
> Thanks for the suggestions. I do think I need to try a new OS, so maybe
> one of these.
> I’ll grab another hard disk and start fresh, using the year-old disk to
> copy my library and scripts.
> In my researching, I’ve encountered a number of complaints about
> PulseAudio.
>
> Anybody familiar with either AV Linux or KX Studio?
>
> Aaron:
> I have various people running this system, so command line is definitely
> out of the question. Everyone knows Windows, so if my next attempt doesn’t
> work perfectly I’ll have to cave in and buy Win10. Being the sole geek is
> not good for the organization.
> (The way cmus is described tells me it very should work extremely well.)
>
> Bob:
> I’m using a small amount of my year-old 2 TB hard disk.
> TOP says I’m using <10% of my CPU. I haven’t run any updates, in the year
> it’s been running.
> I hardly look at bitrate, so don’t know. Clementine shows song moving
> smoothly with no sound, then sound kicks in at five seconds into the song.
> If music is corrupted, why would it play smoothly in several other
> programs?
> 
>
> On 20190430, at 06:49, Bob Elzer  wrote:
>
> hard drive or ssd? What size and how much free space?
> Have you tried running top to see if the CPU is getting overloaded?
> Are you doing regular updates? You say it was running fine, did you start
> having problems after an update. If that is the case, do you really need to
> do the updates? If it ain't broke...
> Could be a drive problem how old is the drive?
> What bitrate is the music? Is the music stuttering or actually continuing
> later in the song?
> Can you copy the music file you had the problem with to another computer
> to make sure it didn't get corrupted?
> _
>
> On 20190430, at 01:25, Aaron Jones  wrote:
>
> Try cmus if you are comfortable doing it from the command line. You get a
> tui for managing it but it can also be scripted.
> https://cmus.github.io/
>
> _
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 1:49 AM Victor Montoya 
> wrote:
>
>> I suggest Linux Calculate.  It is a Gentoo based distro that I believe
>> doesn't have pulse audio.
>> I also suggest Linux MX.  It is Debian based and had system d and pulse
>> audio by passed.  It will also probably be easier to install and maintain.
>> I find that many audio problems have their roots in System D and pulse
>> audio.
>> _
>>
>> On Apr 29, 2019, at 11:13 PM, Victor Odhner  wrote:
>>
>> A computer I built, dedicated to play music in church, is muting pieces
>> of the music. It used to run smoothly.
>>
>> Can someone suggest a *more stable music-playing distro of Linux,*
>> and/or a better *play-list manager*?
>>
>> *Requirements;*
>> Maintain my mp3 library and manage play-lists.
>> Build a play-list for an event. Play each song on cue, and stop when done.
>> Play a video program to a separate port (video projector), but not
>> simultaneously with playing music.
>>
>> I had used Clementine for managing and playing the music.
>> Now music is not always played smoothly: some segments are muted, and an
>> occasional “rogue” note is played out of place.
>> I have tried different tests, switched some hardware, but I think my
>> problem is software.
>>
>> *The problem:* Clementine has served us well for about a year.
>> Now,* when I play a song, it mutes the first five seconds of the song!*
>>
>> A few songs work well, consistently. For a few other songs I get the
>> first beat of the song, then it plays the next five seconds silently, then
>> turns the sound back on. Every now and then, just a beat or two is replaced
>> by a rogue note from the same song; those are not reproducible.
>>
>> Clementine has a feature where we can mark the last song in a group, but
>> now that is broken too: it stops at the end of the marked song, but spits
>> out one beat of the next song!
>>
>> *Status:* I am desparate.
>> I could try to update from Mint 18 to 19.
>>

Re: Linux Mint mutes parts of music

[Bob Elzer]

hard drive or ssd? What size and how much free space?
Have you tried running top to see if the CPU is getting overloaded?
Are you doing regular updates? You say it was running fine, did you start
having problems after an update. If that is the case, do you really need to
do the updates? If it ain't broke...
Could be a drive problem how old is the drive?
What bitrate is the music? Is the music stuttering or actually continuing
later in the song?
Can you copy the music file you had the problem with to another computer to
make sure it didn't get corrupted?




On Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 1:49 AM Victor Montoya 
wrote:

> I suggest Linux Calculate.  It is a Gentoo based distro that I believe
> doesn't have pulse audio.
> I also suggest Linux MX.  It is Debian based and had system d and pulse
> audio by passed.  It will also probably be easier to install and maintain.
> I find that many audio problems have their roots in System D and pulse
> audio.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 29, 2019, at 11:13 PM, Victor Odhner  wrote:
>
> A computer I built, dedicated to play music in church, is muting pieces of
> the music. It used to run smoothly.
>
> Can someone suggest a *more stable music-playing distro of Linux,* and/or
> a better *play-list manager*?
>
> *Requirements;*
> Maintain my mp3 library and manage play-lists.
> Build a play-list for an event. Play each song on cue, and stop when done.
> Play a video program to a separate port (video projector), but not
> simultaneously with playing music.
>
> I had used Clementine for managing and playing the music.
> Now music is not always played smoothly: some segments are muted, and an
> occasional “rogue” note is played out of place.
> I have tried different tests, switched some hardware, but I think my
> problem is software.
>
> *The problem:* Clementine has served us well for about a year.
> Now,* when I play a song, it mutes the first five seconds of the song!*
>
> A few songs work well, consistently. For a few other songs I get the first
> beat of the song, then it plays the next five seconds silently, then turns
> the sound back on. Every now and then, just a beat or two is replaced by a
> rogue note from the same song; those are not reproducible.
>
> Clementine has a feature where we can mark the last song in a group, but
> now that is broken too: it stops at the end of the marked song, but spits
> out one beat of the next song!
>
> *Status:* I am desparate.
> I could try to update from Mint 18 to 19.
> I thought Linux wouldn’t jerk me around like Windows does. Maybe the wrong
> distro?
> Does PulseAudio have something to do with this? Should I use JACK?
> I could try AV Linux — it’s 32bit not 64, but is supposed to be extremely
> stable with rich audio repositories.
> I could try KX Studio — supposedly very stable, with frequent tested
> updates of audio tools.
>
> I could switch to (gasp!) windows since I’m the only Linux geek in the
> organization. Help me to be strong!
>
> *The problem is not just with Clementine.*
> I tested with some other software:
> * *Rhythmbox* plays well, with the occasional *injection of a rogue note.*
> * *Media Player* seems to run well, and *SM Player* & *MPV* likewise. But
> these *aren’t good for managing play lists.*
> * *VLC* sputters along continually in a sort of motorboat pattern. You
> can hear the song faintly, with bits of the song alternating with muted
> moments several times a second.
> * I tried *Audacity* for an extra “player” test: I used it as the “open
> with” choice for a song. As it launched, it made *a nasty scratching
> noise* that I have not learned before. But then when I hit the play
> button it rendered the song nicely, like Media Player etc.
>
> In my research I’ve found discussions of earlier troubles in Mint, with
> scratching noises and stuff. Mine seems different.
>
> Does this sound like
>
> *Computer Configuration:*
> Intel Celeron CPU G3930 800.048 MHZ
> MOBO Gigabyte H110M-M2-CF
> Audio HDA-INTEL PCH, USB Audio CODEC
> CODEC REALTEC ALC887-VD
> HDA Intel PCH Line Out ALSA Driver Ver K4.10.0-38-generic
> (Audio is fed from USB port to a Behringer U-Control adapter, then to the
> Mackie mixer board.)
> MINT 18.3 (MATE 1.18.2 Metacity Marco)
> x86_64 Linux - OS Release 4.10.0-36 generic
> Memory: 8 GB.
>
> Thanks for any suggestion you might have for me.
> Victor Odhner
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Re: How to migrate Ubuntu to new computer?

[Bob Elzer]

first thing I would try is to clone the disks and stick them in the new
computer and see if it boots.

it would help if you could give the specs of the old and new computers what
motherboards, how many disk's, memory and video cards



On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 9:03 PM Stephen Elliott  How do I migrate the full Ubuntu 18.04 os, setup, and data to a new
> computer?
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Re: OT : Screen Recording and Editing Software

[Bob Elzer]

Check out OBS Studio. https://obsproject.com

it runs on windows, mac and linux



On Thu, Feb 7, 2019, 11:38 AM  Hi,
>
> This is OT.
>
> I am looking at Camtasia for Screen Recording and Editing.  I want to
> create some YouTube videos that will show me coding and I need to be able
> to edit the video as well as add video taken with a camera or phone.
> Merging it altogether and edit to make one video
>
> I've heard in the past that Camtasia was the best for this.  I am
> currently reading there is a number of Camtasia like apps out there.  Even
> some that run on Linux.  I will be doing this in Windows though.
>
> Camtasia is marketed as All-In-One Recorder & Editor.
>
> Any thoughts are much appreciated.
>
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Re: rsync permission denied

[Bob Elzer]

is seagate mounted ?  is it write protected ?



On Wed, Jan 30, 2019, 7:52 AM  > rsync -aWuq --delete-before /home/bmike1/Documents /media/bmike1/Seagate
> > rsync: mkdir "/media/bmike1/Seagate" failed: Permission denied (13)
> Mike, this suggests that whatever user is login in to the remote box
> doesn't
> have the rights to 'mkdir /media/bmike1/Seagate'
>
> Login to that box with that user and run that mkdir.
> If it fails (and most likely will), you know what the problem is.
> Being that the problem, there is a wide array of options to overcome it.
> ET
>
>
>
> Michael writes:
>
> >  rsync -aWuq --delete-before /home/bmike1/Documents /media/bmike1/Seagate
> > rsync: mkdir "/media/bmike1/Seagate" failed: Permission denied (13)
> > rsync error: error in file IO (code 11) at main.c(675) [Receiver=3.1.2]
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 8:25 AM Snyder, Alexander J <
> > a...@misteralexander.com> wrote:
> >
> >> What is the exact text of the error? What are the existing permissions
> of
> >> what you're trying to backup?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Alexander.
> >>
> >> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019, 05:28 Michael  >>
> >>> I was trying to backup my system for the first time and rsync is
> throwing
> >>> a permission denied error up. Did something change with rsync or is
> this a
> >>> user error? How do I fix it?
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Re: sleep and rsync

[Bob Elzer]

there are two different things.

screen saver and power management.

power management will put the computer in suspend mode which will copy
memory to a buffer then put the system into a very low power mode waiting
to be woke up after wich it will copy the buffer back to memory and resume
where it left off.

screen savers can display nice graphics but they can also turn off the
monitor.

if a screen saver turns off the monitor, the computer continues to run and
perform all its functions.

if you move the mouse or type something and the monitor responds with a
password right away, then it is the screen saver turning off the monitor.

if it takes a little while and the disks are flashing and making noise that
would be the computer waking up from suspend mode.

hope this helps


On Tue, Jan 1, 2019, 5:34 PM Michael  , doesn't work. Oh well, all use the media player because when that is
> playing it does not go off
>
> On Tue, Jan 1, 2019, 18:33 David Lopez 
>> keep computer on by simply using the linux (ubuntu) timer on until rsync
>> is finished.
>>
>>settings-->power-->power saving=="never"
>>
>> this is a time set at 3 minutes  - change it to an hour or more until
>> rsync is done.
>>
>> david lopez
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 4:25 PM David Lopez 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> keep computer on by simply using the linux (ubuntu) on until rsync is
>>> finished.
>>>
>>>settings-->power-->power saving==never
>>>
>>> this is a time set at 3 minutes  - change it to an your or more until
>>> rsync is done.
>>>
>>> david lopez
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 1:33 PM Michael  wrote:
>>>
 how does one make it so the computer will not go to sleep?

 On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 1:26 PM der.hans  wrote:

> Am 01. Jan, 2019 schwätzte Michael so:
>
> moin moin,
>
> your computer effectively turns off when it goes to sleep.
>
> tcp connections such as rsync might continue if you bring the computer
> out
> of sleep soon enough. Most likely you'll have to restart the rsync as
> the
> tcp connections will have timed out. rsync might also have controls to
> require re-authentication.
>
> rsync will continue from where it left off once you restart it.
>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans
>
> > I run rsync and sometimes the computer goes to sleep while I'm
> running it
> > (or at least the screen goes black and I need to reenter the pass
> word).
> > What happens to rsync when it goes to sleep? Like does it continue
> to run
> > or is it suspended? Do I need to ^C the thing and restart it or does
> it
> > pick up where it left off (if it does not continue to run)?
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Re: android question

[Bob Elzer]

There are two kinds of unlocking, carrier unlocking which lets you use the
phone on any carrier, this is free providing you have paid for your phone
your carrier will provide you with a code or an app to unlock it. this has
nothing to do with using your phone as a mobile hotspot.

the other unlocking involves unlocking the bootloader which lets you
replace the roms or root your phone. most manufacturers don't want you
doing this because it makes your phone unsecure.

rooting the phone usually involves running an exploit that gives you root
and allows you to install su (superuser) so you can grant those permissions
to other apps.

You want to root your phone and run some other app that will let you run a
mobile hotspot app that hopefully your carrier won't be able to detect it.
You should google your phone and carrier to see if anyone has accomplished
this before you spend the money.

These things don't always work.


On Mon, Dec 31, 2018, 10:42 AM Jim  My current phone is from cricket.  I don't like their idea of blocking a
> feature the manufacturer built into the phone (sharing the internet
> connection) and charging to restore it.  The LG X charge I had when I
> was with comcast enables  the sharing of the phone's internet
> connection.  I think i'll pay the $20 to get it unlocked then put the
> cricket sim card in it.
>
> On 12/31/18 10:15 AM, Matt Graham wrote:
> >> On 12/30/18 10:57 PM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. wrote:
> >>> If it is a AT&T device then you are dead in the water. There is no
> >>> way to unlock the bootloader on those deives.
> > On 2018-12-31 04:55, Jim wrote:
> >> Thanks Alexander, Stephen and Herminio. I've learned a lesson here.
> >> Make sure the device can be rooted before buying it.
> >
> > Also note that things can be more complicated than that.  The Samsung
> > Galaxy S7 was listed on lineageos.org as working.  This is only
> > half-correct.  The Galaxy S7s that are sold in Europe and Asia can
> > have their bootloaders unlocked.  The Galaxy S7s that are sold in the
> > USA cannot.  So check very carefully before buying anything.  I
> > *think* the best bet right now is an LG phone; many are supposed to be
> > unlockable.  None of the LG phones my carrier is selling are listed on
> > https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/ though.
> >
> > The other thing casual users may not know is that it's possible to
> > uninstall some things that appear to be stuck forever.  "adb shell"
> > then "pm list packages | sort | more" and find the thing you want to
> > get rid of (com.facebook.evil or whatever).  Then "pm uninstall
> > com.facebook.app" or whatever and you will bypass that "can't
> > uninstall this from the settings->apps menu" problem. NOTE:  Back up
> > your phone before doing this, in case you accidentally uninstall
> > something you find you need later.
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Re: I want to download a program (mint 19.1)

[Bob Elzer]

go to the website, click on the download link of the version you want

simple


On Mon, Dec 31, 2018, 11:01 AM Michael  sorry. I meant I want to download an ISO.
>
> On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 6:34 AM  wrote:
>
>> apt-get install and/or dpkg!
>>
>>
>> Michael writes:
>>
>> > should I use wget?
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