Re: internal drive shows up as removable. Removable usb stick doesn't show at all
This may be a trip to the motherboard manufacturer's documentation. Id the port it is connected to, and find out what chipset it is connected to. I have seen some of these "3rd party" chipsets used to provide cheap fakeraid, extra ports when the primary chipset doesn't have enough PCI/PCIe lanes and a handful of other reasons. they invariably cause issues with Linux because they try to fake something that Linux sees through and tells them to Stuff it. Also check in BIOS if you can enable any extra removable features this will convince Linux its not a real HDD and put it behind the USB flags. On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 9:18 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > I shut down the machine so I could open it up and see which sata port > that drive was plugged into. I was wrong earlier when I said it was > plugged into one of the sata ports on the motherboard. It was plugged into > an addon card that's plugged into a pcie slot. I have a trayless hot swap > mobile rack I use for drives I use for backups. I switched the two sata > cables. The internal drive now connects to the motherboard. The hot swap > rack connects to the sata addon card. I rebooted and the internal drives > don't show.. Apparently anything connected to the sata ports on the > motherboard is treated as an internal drive and anything conneccted to an > addon cars is treated as an external drive whether it is or not. > On 4/3/24 16:00, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > Not sure. What port is it plugged into? > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2024, 6:53 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > >> The bios has nothing to specify whether a drive is internal or external. >> Is there some way for me to tell the system that it's an internal drive? >> On 4/3/24 12:50, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> >> Check bios, some have a removable hardware flag that you can set to allow >> them to be hot swap. Sata, SAS and U.2 NVME drives support this at a >> hardware level natively so the bio may just need to have a setting updated. >> >> On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 7:28 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss < >> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >> >>> Os = Kubuntu 22.04 >>> >>> I have a problem with the two partitions on /dev/sdd showing up in Gnome >>> Disk Utility and in Disks & Devices in the Kubuntu system tray as >>> removable. The real removable drive, a USB stick doesn't show at all. >>> Somehow I got Gnome Disk Utility to show all disk, including the USB >>> stick. >>> >>> In /sys/block/sdd there's a file named removable. In it is just a >>> number 1. The other internal drives have a 0 in the removable file. >>> >>> >>> Does anyone have an idea how I can fix this? >>> >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> -- >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >> >> Stephen >> >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail >> settings:https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail > settings:https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: internal drive shows up as removable. Removable usb stick doesn't show at all
On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 6:18 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > I shut down the machine so I could open it up and see which sata port > that drive was plugged into. I was wrong earlier when I said it was > plugged into one of the sata ports on the motherboard. It was plugged into > an addon card that's plugged into a pcie slot. I have a trayless hot swap > mobile rack I use for drives I use for backups. I switched the two sata > cables. The internal drive now connects to the motherboard. The hot swap > rack connects to the sata addon card. I rebooted and the internal drives > don't show.. Apparently anything connected to the sata ports on the > motherboard is treated as an internal drive and anything conneccted to an > addon cars is treated as an external drive whether it is or not. > What is the "add-on" card and how is it connected to the motherboard? lspci and lsusb may give more information to help understand the anomaly. -- Arun Khan --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: internal drive shows up as removable. Removable usb stick doesn't show at all
I shut down the machine so I could open it up and see which sata port that drive was plugged into. I was wrong earlier when I said it was plugged into one of the sata ports on the motherboard. It was plugged into an addon card that's plugged into a pcie slot. I have a trayless hot swap mobile rack I use for drives I use for backups. I switched the two sata cables. The internal drive now connects to the motherboard. The hot swap rack connects to the sata addon card. I rebooted and the internal drives don't show.. Apparently anything connected to the sata ports on the motherboard is treated as an internal drive and anything conneccted to an addon cars is treated as an external drive whether it is or not. On 4/3/24 16:00, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: Not sure. What port is it plugged into? On Wed, Apr 3, 2024, 6:53 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss wrote: The bios has nothing to specify whether a drive is internal or external. Is there some way for me to tell the system that it's an internal drive? On 4/3/24 12:50, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: Check bios, some have a removable hardware flag that you can set to allow them to be hot swap. Sata, SAS and U.2 NVME drives support this at a hardware level natively so the bio may just need to have a setting updated. On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 7:28 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss wrote: Os = Kubuntu 22.04 I have a problem with the two partitions on /dev/sdd showing up in Gnome Disk Utility and in Disks & Devices in the Kubuntu system tray as removable. The real removable drive, a USB stick doesn't show at all. Somehow I got Gnome Disk Utility to show all disk, including the USB stick. In /sys/block/sdd there's a file named removable. In it is just a number 1. The other internal drives have a 0 in the removable file. Does anyone have an idea how I can fix this? Thanks. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: internal drive shows up as removable. Removable usb stick doesn't show at all
It's my mistake. There's one drive with two partitions on it. It and the other 3 drives are each plugged into one of the 4 sata ports on the motherboard. Thanks for your replies. On 4/3/24 16:00, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: Not sure. What port is it plugged into? On Wed, Apr 3, 2024, 6:53 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss wrote: The bios has nothing to specify whether a drive is internal or external. Is there some way for me to tell the system that it's an internal drive? On 4/3/24 12:50, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: Check bios, some have a removable hardware flag that you can set to allow them to be hot swap. Sata, SAS and U.2 NVME drives support this at a hardware level natively so the bio may just need to have a setting updated. On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 7:28 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss wrote: Os = Kubuntu 22.04 I have a problem with the two partitions on /dev/sdd showing up in Gnome Disk Utility and in Disks & Devices in the Kubuntu system tray as removable. The real removable drive, a USB stick doesn't show at all. Somehow I got Gnome Disk Utility to show all disk, including the USB stick. In /sys/block/sdd there's a file named removable. In it is just a number 1. The other internal drives have a 0 in the removable file. Does anyone have an idea how I can fix this? Thanks. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: internal drive shows up as removable. Removable usb stick doesn't show at all
Not sure. What port is it plugged into? On Wed, Apr 3, 2024, 6:53 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > The bios has nothing to specify whether a drive is internal or external. > Is there some way for me to tell the system that it's an internal drive? > On 4/3/24 12:50, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > Check bios, some have a removable hardware flag that you can set to allow > them to be hot swap. Sata, SAS and U.2 NVME drives support this at a > hardware level natively so the bio may just need to have a setting updated. > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 7:28 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > >> Os = Kubuntu 22.04 >> >> I have a problem with the two partitions on /dev/sdd showing up in Gnome >> Disk Utility and in Disks & Devices in the Kubuntu system tray as >> removable. The real removable drive, a USB stick doesn't show at all. >> Somehow I got Gnome Disk Utility to show all disk, including the USB >> stick. >> >> In /sys/block/sdd there's a file named removable. In it is just a >> number 1. The other internal drives have a 0 in the removable file. >> >> >> Does anyone have an idea how I can fix this? >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail > settings:https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: internal drive shows up as removable. Removable usb stick doesn't show at all
The bios has nothing to specify whether a drive is internal or external. Is there some way for me to tell the system that it's an internal drive? On 4/3/24 12:50, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: Check bios, some have a removable hardware flag that you can set to allow them to be hot swap. Sata, SAS and U.2 NVME drives support this at a hardware level natively so the bio may just need to have a setting updated. On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 7:28 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss wrote: Os = Kubuntu 22.04 I have a problem with the two partitions on /dev/sdd showing up in Gnome Disk Utility and in Disks & Devices in the Kubuntu system tray as removable. The real removable drive, a USB stick doesn't show at all. Somehow I got Gnome Disk Utility to show all disk, including the USB stick. In /sys/block/sdd there's a file named removable. In it is just a number 1. The other internal drives have a 0 in the removable file. Does anyone have an idea how I can fix this? Thanks. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list:PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss--- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: internal drive shows up as removable. Removable usb stick doesn't show at all
Check bios, some have a removable hardware flag that you can set to allow them to be hot swap. Sata, SAS and U.2 NVME drives support this at a hardware level natively so the bio may just need to have a setting updated. On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 7:28 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > Os = Kubuntu 22.04 > > I have a problem with the two partitions on /dev/sdd showing up in Gnome > Disk Utility and in Disks & Devices in the Kubuntu system tray as > removable. The real removable drive, a USB stick doesn't show at all. > Somehow I got Gnome Disk Utility to show all disk, including the USB stick. > > In /sys/block/sdd there's a file named removable. In it is just a > number 1. The other internal drives have a 0 in the removable file. > > > Does anyone have an idea how I can fix this? > > > Thanks. > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
internal drive shows up as removable. Removable usb stick doesn't show at all
Os = Kubuntu 22.04 I have a problem with the two partitions on /dev/sdd showing up in Gnome Disk Utility and in Disks & Devices in the Kubuntu system tray as removable. The real removable drive, a USB stick doesn't show at all. Somehow I got Gnome Disk Utility to show all disk, including the USB stick. In /sys/block/sdd there's a file named removable. In it is just a number 1. The other internal drives have a 0 in the removable file. Does anyone have an idea how I can fix this? Thanks. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
