Re: OT: Which tablet?

[Stephen Partington]

I have been very pleased with my OnePlus under these circumstances. but
your screen requirements are a little open ended.



On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:27 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote:

 Hello there:
 I need the tablet with the biggest screen (Android or Mac) that can be
 visible in direct sunlight as well as dim(able) to the point of being
 visible under *VERY* low light without blinding brightness.
 This is the test for brightness:
 Stay in a totally dark room for an hour and then turn the tablet on.
 If you get a barely uncomfortably blinding screen, it is too bright.
 Price unimportant, I hope that I don't have to go Mac, but my Android
 phone hasn't had a shining performance either...   :(
 Thanks!
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Re: openelec

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I think that it would depend on where you are installing.

http://wiki.openelec.tv/index.php?title=Installation
On Mar 14, 2015 7:03 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've decided to try to run the operating system openelec. I was wondering
 how big of an SD card I need for it. The instructions for installation are:

 dd if=OpenELEC-Generic.x86_64-5.0.0-efi.img of=/dev/sdb bs=4M


 Does this mean the sd card needs to be 4 mb in size? Can I even buy one
 that small? What about swap?
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Re: OT Cable Modem Woes

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As long as you are willing to pay for it they can do a good job, but there
are also some real dingbats doing the job as well. If you get a cox direct
guy then you likely are going to get a good deal. if you get a contractor
then not so much...

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
wrote:

 A short recap on the problem

 I signed up for the Cox home cable plant support option - $7/month. Cox
 came out yesterday and the technician said the signal as too strong, and he
 removed an amplifier from the circuit and now the modem is not dropping the
 signal. The new signal strength is 2-3 dBmV. My average ping time to
 google.com also dropped by 2 ms! He did not change any cables. He did
 replace some old splitters in the attic for the TVs, and the signal
 strength there improved, too.

 So, for once, Cox came through.I think!

 Thanks for all the advice!

 Mark

 On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Mark Phillips 
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote:

 Thanks again for all the input. I will check out the Cox service plan for
 $7.00/month and see if they can get it fixed!

 Mark

 On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have the internal wiring insurance offered by Cox. SO far, its been
 worth the additional $6 a month. The phone lines in this house (which are
 covered) are about 50 years old. we will need to get them replace soon (my
 ham radio keeps coming in on the phone). We had all the cable redone in the
 house about 10 years ago, and even have a single dedicated line out to the
 pedestal for the cable modem. So far, that one line is noise free and the
 cable modem (a motorola make) has been chugging along happily for about 7
 years.

 anyway, thats my story and I am sticking to it. :)

 -eric



 On Feb 21, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Michael Butash wrote:

  As long as it's not RG-58 (stuff satellite usually installs), it's
 probably ok.  Cox will only install RG-8 these days, so check what you have,
 
  My coax is going on 15-20 years old, and I've never had an issue with
 it.  This isn't usually the issue
 
  Another thing that goes bad are splitters.  Mine has crapped out a few
 times over the years too.  Since I never watch tv, and haven't had cable tv
 since the 90's, I just removed all the splitters and use a 1-to-1 joint
 from the external to my modem.
 
  Have cox replace your external line, they should do that for free, and
 start there.
 
  What others will do/have done is get the coverage package from cox
 per month, another 6-8 bucks, have them fix/replace your inside lines, and
 cancel the service.  Janky., but I was told that by a cox field tech.  :)
 
  -mb
 
 
  On 02/20/2015 11:41 PM, Mark Phillips wrote:
  Thanks for the info! Do you know any reasonable cable installers who
 could replaces the coax in my house? It is over ten years old, and probably
 the problem. The cable to the dmz is just a year old, and at the opposite
 end of the house from the cable modem. I have also been having some issues
 with the tvs in the house, so time to replaces all of it.
 
  Mark
 
  On Feb 20, 2015 9:35 PM, Zany Yan sirli...@cox.net wrote:
  Mark,
 
  I used to have a LOT of problems with my Cox connection. It was
 working then it would start recycle the modem like every 2 mins for a long
 while. My signal was CRAP!
 
  Finally, it totally quit all together. Couldn't even connect.
 Finally, a Cox technical person came over. Looked at my cable from the DMZ
 box on the side of the house to inside with a meter and it was VERY bad.
 
  Ended up totally replacing the cable from the DMZ box all the way to
 the cable modem.
 
  Once that was done, my connection came back.
 
  You want to call COX Internet technical support line, don't call the
 help line. Make sure you keep telling them that the connection has been
 dropping like crazy.
 
  Jon
 
  On 02/20/2015 08:06 PM, Mark Phillips wrote:
  I have a 1-3 year old Motorola Surfboard SB6141 and Cox. The modem and
  my LAN are up 24/7. Recently, I have been loosing my connection to the
  Internet. My local LAN is up (I can ping/ssh other computers on the
 LAN)
  but I get and error message of Can't resolve host when I try to ping
  google. A quick power off, wait 30 seconds, power on of the modem
 fixes
  the problem. These outages are happening more frequently - daily for
 the
  last two days. The lights on the front of the modem are not different
  between running normally and unable to access the Internet.
 
  The downstream signal to noise is 37 - 38 dB @ 14 dBmV. The upstream
  power level is 41 - 45 dBmV.
 
  I am seeing this in the logs for the modem on a regular basis after
 the
  reboots
 
  MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file
 
 MIMO=-1;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
 
  TLV-11 - unrecognized
 
 OID;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
 
  Do I need to buy a new modem? Is there anything Cox 

ProxMoxVE, Ceph, and migrating from HyperV

[Stephen Partington]

So as part of a project here i have been experimenting with Proxmox and
Ceph. It up and running and works really well. Bur we have a few MUST HAVE
vm's i need to bring over.

So far i have not found a graceful way to do this in this configuration.

The most graceful so far appears to be a combination of Selfimage (dd for
windows) to clone the drive via NBD directly into the proxmox server. but
using Ceph this is more challenging as i do not have a normal path for
access to write the disk image, NBD or no.

If there are some suggestions on how to process this i would be open to
hearing them. so far it is looking like a cross of selfimage to local disk
then migrating into the ceph cluster... It would almost be easier to
rebuild vm's that way.

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Re: OnePlus One invites

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CyanogenOS12 is nice, I am very happy with it. Beware the wakelock issue
with Google Play services.

http://www.xda-developers.com/psa-google-play-services-wakelock-affects-many-5-x-roms/

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro wrote:

 I am getting ready to flash mine over to the Cyanogenmod 12 version as
 soon as I get some play time.


 On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:46 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 This phone just received 2 different official lollipop releases of
 Cyanogen 12 and OxygenOS both are slick, So far i am login the update to
 Cyanogen.

 And it will not work on sprint either ;-)

 On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:18 AM, Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro wrote:

 I have a invite for a OnePlus One if anyone wants one. It is good for
 today only though

 Description of phone
 https://oneplus.net/one

 Invite

 https://account.oneplus.net/invite/claim/GLTM-X7EZ-4GCV-KPRP

 https://account.oneplus.net/invite/claim/GLW2-TNI9-BNLX-DTVS


 If you use the invite please reply to the list with the one you used so
 someone else doesn't try to use it.

 Before I forget this is a GSM phone so it will not work on your Verizon
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Re: OnePlus One invites

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If you are a heavy user wakelocks aren't going to change much as your
device is already very active. it mostly kills naptime and where you get
your big power conservation.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote:

  Interesting, nice heads up here - thanks too.  This explains why I saw
 some rumblings about the play services, but don't follow trends close
 enough to see this.

 My battery life was poop on KK already, why I said heck with it and went
 forward, so far it's no worse really, hopefully the nightly includes some
 of th recent workarounds.

 -mb


 On 04/20/2015 08:02 AM, Shawn Badger wrote:

 Thanks for the heads up on the play store issue.

 On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 7:40 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  CyanogenOS12 is nice, I am very happy with it. Beware the wakelock
 issue with Google Play services.


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Re: OnePlus One invites

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Oh and they dropped the invite system,
https://blog.oneplus.net/2015/04/open-sales-for-the-oneplus-one-forever/

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Well, Dalvik is gone in 5.0 in favor of Art. No more JIT complies of
 applications.

 On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net
 wrote:

  I just flashed my sony z1 compact over to lollipop last night on cm12
 kernel with Pacman Rom, and so far it's about 200x better in terms of
 smoothness and performance.  Mine always seems to bog down constantly, even
 flushing dalvik and such never seems to help, so hoping they fixed some of
 that with 5.0.  Next test today, see if bluetooth is still crippled from
 KitKat.

 Weird part is it seems to have fixed my camera, which always had massive
 bugs with the old cm11 kernels (thanks to sony bootloader drm), never
 auto-focusing properly.  It's like a brand new device, super crisp images
 again, so wondering if they fixed it, or just bypassed it to spite sony.
 Either way, I'll take it!

 -mb



 On 04/20/2015 07:40 AM, Stephen Partington wrote:

  CyanogenOS12 is nice, I am very happy with it. Beware the wakelock
 issue with Google Play services.


 http://www.xda-developers.com/psa-google-play-services-wakelock-affects-many-5-x-roms/

 On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro wrote:

 I am getting ready to flash mine over to the Cyanogenmod 12 version as
 soon as I get some play time.


 On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:46 AM, Stephen Partington 
 cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

  This phone just received 2 different official lollipop releases of
 Cyanogen 12 and OxygenOS both are slick, So far i am login the update to
 Cyanogen.

  And it will not work on sprint either ;-)

  On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:18 AM, Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro
 wrote:

   I have a invite for a OnePlus One if anyone wants one. It is good
 for today only though

  Description of phone
 https://oneplus.net/one

  Invite

 https://account.oneplus.net/invite/claim/GLTM-X7EZ-4GCV-KPRP

 https://account.oneplus.net/invite/claim/GLW2-TNI9-BNLX-DTVS


  If you use the invite please reply to the list with the one you used
 so someone else doesn't try to use it.

  Before I forget this is a GSM phone so it will not work on your
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Re: OnePlus One invites

[Stephen Partington]

Well, Dalvik is gone in 5.0 in favor of Art. No more JIT complies of
applications.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote:

  I just flashed my sony z1 compact over to lollipop last night on cm12
 kernel with Pacman Rom, and so far it's about 200x better in terms of
 smoothness and performance.  Mine always seems to bog down constantly, even
 flushing dalvik and such never seems to help, so hoping they fixed some of
 that with 5.0.  Next test today, see if bluetooth is still crippled from
 KitKat.

 Weird part is it seems to have fixed my camera, which always had massive
 bugs with the old cm11 kernels (thanks to sony bootloader drm), never
 auto-focusing properly.  It's like a brand new device, super crisp images
 again, so wondering if they fixed it, or just bypassed it to spite sony.
 Either way, I'll take it!

 -mb



 On 04/20/2015 07:40 AM, Stephen Partington wrote:

  CyanogenOS12 is nice, I am very happy with it. Beware the wakelock issue
 with Google Play services.


 http://www.xda-developers.com/psa-google-play-services-wakelock-affects-many-5-x-roms/

 On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro wrote:

 I am getting ready to flash mine over to the Cyanogenmod 12 version as
 soon as I get some play time.


 On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:46 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com
  wrote:

  This phone just received 2 different official lollipop releases of
 Cyanogen 12 and OxygenOS both are slick, So far i am login the update to
 Cyanogen.

  And it will not work on sprint either ;-)

  On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:18 AM, Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro wrote:

   I have a invite for a OnePlus One if anyone wants one. It is good
 for today only though

  Description of phone
 https://oneplus.net/one

  Invite

 https://account.oneplus.net/invite/claim/GLTM-X7EZ-4GCV-KPRP

 https://account.oneplus.net/invite/claim/GLW2-TNI9-BNLX-DTVS


  If you use the invite please reply to the list with the one you used
 so someone else doesn't try to use it.

  Before I forget this is a GSM phone so it will not work on your
 Verizon or Sprint service

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Network bridge over bond?

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I am working on a ProxmoxVE cluster i have set up.

I am needing a bit better network performance as i am also running CEPH for
the stoage layer

This is what i have for network configuration is the following. it seems to
be working. the nodes i have configured appear to be running with better
throughput.

root@computername:~# cat /etc/network/interfaces
# network interface settings
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

iface eth0 inet manual

iface eth1 inet manual

auto bond0
iface bond0 inet static
address  10.40.216.235
netmask  255.255.255.0
slaves eth0 eth1
bond_miimon 100
bond_mode 802.3ad
bond_xmit_hash_policy layer2

auto vmbr0
iface vmbr0 inet static
address  10.40.216.235
netmask  255.255.255.0
gateway  10.40.216.1
bridge_ports bond0
bridge_stp off
bridge_fd 0

root@computername:~#

The backend network these servers are connected to are a Cisco Catalyst
4705R loaded with WS-X4524-GB-RJ45V modules.

All my research says to use a network bond running LCAP for best
compatability/performance with this hardware. it all seems to be running,
but it is kind of weird that Proxmox would want me to create the bridge for
the VMs to run on kind of makes sense just feels weird to run a bond
inside  bridge.

If anyone who has worked with proxmox has a better suggestion please let me
know.

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Re: Have you heard of this yet?

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As long as the customer hasi their paid for bandwidth there should be no
issue with that service set up. I would take it the next step and provide
the modem for free with the profision that this Antenna, X we call it will
be used for that purpose so you save the cash on modem rental. cox manages
the modem and wifi for you. gives you wifi to use as yours, and then wifi X
will be used for their service.

but its all about agreed expectations and service. Comcast was not telling
anyone about this. or giveing the option to opt in/out.

On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote:

  Interesting concept...

 Cisco and all the other vendors are building and branding wireless for
 seamless roaming, given carrier-grade wireless is provided (ie. vendor
 selling the solution). Most cell hardware vendors (cisco, alcatel, juniper,
 etc) also sell wireless solutions, so why not blend the two for mobile
 roaming with carrier solution backhaul and roaming capabilities?


 http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/solutions/collateral/service-provider/service-provider-wi-fi/white_paper_c11-701018.html

 I was chatting with someone from cox, guess they're doing what every other
 last-mile provider is, building wifi into their next-gen modems to not only
 service local traffic (for customers), but also reusing bandwidth for their
 own free wifi service.  This is the same thing Comcast is being sued for
 currently by the way.

 If you think about it it, Cox, Comcast, all the MSO's driven by vendor are
 pushing to use your connection for reselling, or giving value-add service
 for everyone, giving they're using your last-mile connection for it too.
 Comcast is being sued because someone realized they're resusing their
 connection they're paying for, but is it wrong?

 What they do is reuse channels, yes, like old analog channels of rf
 spectrum over their closed plant, for this, while giving you otherwise what
 you pay for.  With 42mb a channel x 24 or 32 channels of docsis 3.0+,
 whatever you're not paying for, they see as free game.  Since no one buys
 actual cable tv now, why not - revenue!

 Again, this is a net neutrality thing.  Is it wrong to reuse unused docsis
 upstream/downstream channels when you're not paying for full-service
 anyways?  If it's logically secure, who cares?  Does it impede on your
 service really?

 Exactly what the cable MSO's are looking for, and Google trying to
 piggy-back on them.  Can't say I blame Google, this is Milo Medin's revenge
 for them, as well as google fiber, for scuttling @Home Networks.  Death by
 a thousand cuts, if they let him in.

 Interesting part is Cable is not regulated like the Baby Bell's are,
 curious to see if they just try to push him, google, and everyone else
 out.  Cox is doing so for playing nice with other cable companies, but I'll
 be curious to see if they let Google in on the party.

 -mb


 On 05/07/2015 09:52 AM, Michael Havens wrote:

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Re: moving!

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happy hunting and good luck!

On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, as the heading for this email implies I am moving.
 Where are you moving, Mike?
 Where am I moving? Glad you asked. I'm moving to Jacksonville initially. I
 keep in touch with my buddies and the last time I spoke with one of my
 friends in FL he turned me on to a job. I asked him what it was and he told
 me it had to do with Verizon's 4G. I was intrigued but wasn't sure if I
 should do it. I asked him where I should move to and he suggested
 Gainesville. I then asked if I could crash in his place until I could get
 some money and move out on my own. To my amazement he said yes. That is
 very promising because if I wasn't going to be making a lot of money he
 surely wouldn't be offering to house me.
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Re: ubuntu and kvm

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I had some very strange issues running qemu/kvm with ubuntu, lacked the
time to track it down and had to move on to a different solution. I cannot
say it was qmeu/kvm or what, but that whole project was scrapped.

MAde me sad too, because proxmox and ceph were exceeding neat to manage.
but if my VM's get wonky and have issues then i cannot use that solution.

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:21 AM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote:

 Curious if anyone is using (successfully) ubuntu 14.04 with kvm,
 virt-manager, qemu, spice, etc.

 I ask because out of frustration with commercial vendors not supporting
 virtualbox (meh oracle, can't blame em), and finally trying kvm now as they
 have an image for that, just to launch this darn thing.  KVM is pretty new
 to me, or modern iterations of it, and it incessantly refuses to import or
 build a vm, seemingly due to an issue with this spice reporting it's not
 built in.  Seemed an easy enough install on the surface

 Did some research, spice as the graphic acceleration for console video was
 new to me, seems more of a pain than worth, but I can't seem to work around
 it and simply not use it.  The module is there, yet the binary reports it's
 not, no one else complains on teh googles since 12.04 with the last major
 bug, but this simply refuses to work.  The old references from 12.04 just
 indicate it had to symlink a different binary, the scripts were just broken
 with hard references, but that isn't the case.  This simply says spice
 isn't built into it, when every other thing seems to indicate it is.

 Tracking it back, some suggestions were to use the vnc lib vs. spice, and
 that starts complaining that I think ubuntu screwed up the apparmor profile
 as it's denying when I attempt the vnc display profile.  Removing apparmor
 just breaks libvirt and causes a segfault internally without apparmor hook
 completion.  I ended up wasting a better part of today, and finally giving
 up in frustration, just to get a stinking f5 load-balancer appliance to
 boot.

 Ugh.  Starting to hate ubuntu again, and f5.

 Anyone at all use ubuntu 14.04 with kvm successfully with or without these
 quirks?  Weird I don't see any trace of the same issues from others, but
 really can't see how this is something I did wrong following from a few
 diff how to guides on ubuntu 14.04 was was just installing packages and a
 re-login for group perms.

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Re: Chrome/chromium constantly exhausting file handlers/ulimits

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I have recently started migrating back to Firefox. Chrome memory
utilization has become absurd.
On Apr 15, 2015 12:48 PM, Kevin Fries ke...@fries-biro.com wrote:

 I have seen both Chrome and Chromium go ape s#$ on my system.  While it
 does happen very occasionally on other systems, my old netbook that only
 runs 32bit is damn near unusable with either browser... I have had to
 resort to xombrero.

 And yes, Google does EVERYTHING in Linux.  They use Ubuntu as the
 corporate standard in house.  But sometimes I think they suffer from the
 same problem as Sun used to... they are so used to nearly inexhaustible
 pockets, they forget that sometimes people have old, small machines.

 Kevin
 On Apr 15, 2015 11:46 AM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote:

 Just wondering if others have issues with chrome/chromium under linux
 perpetually forking up to kill your system?  This has been happening for
 some time, but I have recently had to switch to using multiple profiles,
 and it's only made the problem factorial now.

 I've read there are tons of issues with chrome requiring ulimit increases
 (linux forkbomb protection), all of which I've done, but I'm still seeming
 exhausting them to the point it's absurd that it should require so drastic
 an increase outside of norm.

 You might not even realize it at first, I didn't, but it'll manifest
 itself a number of ways, including things not opening, things hanging,
 dialogs not opening, plugins not working, etc.  Then I'll notice my system
 in various other ways start freaking out.  Logs or running them via cli
 usually shows it can't request handlers for files or libraries to launch.
 Doing a killall -9 on chrom* fixes it.

 Why though, and what are other's experiences?  Google doesn't seem to
 find it an issue, but I wonder if those dorks really do anything productive
 with linux outside of a chromebook with 2 apps open anyways.  I can tax my
 32gb of ram at times in not frivolous manors, but chrome is just being a
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Re: OnePlus One invites

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This phone just received 2 different official lollipop releases of Cyanogen
12 and OxygenOS both are slick, So far i am login the update to Cyanogen.

And it will not work on sprint either ;-)

On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:18 AM, Shawn Badger sh...@badger.pro wrote:

 I have a invite for a OnePlus One if anyone wants one. It is good for
 today only though

 Description of phone
 https://oneplus.net/one

 Invite

 https://account.oneplus.net/invite/claim/GLTM-X7EZ-4GCV-KPRP

 https://account.oneplus.net/invite/claim/GLW2-TNI9-BNLX-DTVS


 If you use the invite please reply to the list with the one you used so
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 Before I forget this is a GSM phone so it will not work on your Verizon or
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http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=14847

Just thought a few of you might enjoy the geekout.

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Re: I have an 8GB card....

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Personally I would have used cfdisk parted or gparted to look at the
partition layout and make applicable changes.
On Apr 4, 2015 9:24 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I want to use this card. Currently it is partitioned. Can I delete all of
 the partitions by formatting it with mkfs? I would have just tried it
 without asking but I can't remember what the command is to see what number
 the device has been assigned (/dev/sd??) so I need help with that as well.
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Re: apt-get upgrade vs synaptic

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As a result of this i usually run an apt-get update/upgrade after i
successfully complete one just to make sure i didn't miss anything (might
as well while i am there)

On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote:

 The package system works by copying the database of available software
 from the server to your computer.  At that moment all your packaging
 software knows about is what is in it's local copy of the database.

 You probably did one upgrade in synaptic based on a slightly older version
 of the package database, and when that was done you got a fresh copy of the
 database and were then able to upgrade to all the changes that were made
 during the time between the first and second time you downloaded the
 database.

 It's also possible that there were simply new programs added while you
 were doing the first upgrade.  There is so much software in the
 repositories that it's extremely likely they are any moment something you
 have loaded is getting updated.

 Brian Cluff

 On 04/01/2015 10:56 PM, Michael Havens wrote:

 yeah. but why did apt-get upgrade it after I had already upgraded
 with synaptic?

 :-)~MIKE~(-:

 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:07 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com
 mailto:jmc...@gmail.com wrote:

 the update refreshes your package cache.  that would mean there were
 changes between the last time and this time you updated the cache.

 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com
 mailto:bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 you know, I merrily did an upgrade with synaptic and the little icon
 by the clock showed that all was well. for some reason I decided to
 run 'apt-get update' 'apt-get upgrade' and more files upgraded.
 why?? :-)~MIKE~(-:

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Re: OT: private messaging tool?

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So newsgroup? or even really old school with UUCP?

sorry, low blow :-)

you can certainly host a jabber instance pretty easy. or even an IRC server?

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:12 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote:

 Thanks Stephen.

  The Google drive simultaneous edit functionality
  is probably my favorite feature of their services...

 I agree that simultaneous edit is great.
 Just want to find something a **whole lot simpler** and faster.

  however. Take a look at owncloud. it is an opensource/php
  driven relative.

 Still too cluttered for my taste.

 Just want plain text input with zero graphics.

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Re: OT: private messaging tool?

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oh the part of owncloud that i forgot to mention, https://apps.owncloud.com/
they have apps that you can use to add functionality past stock.

They also have a libreoffice integration that i have yet to try to set up.
but it suggests you can integrate directly with libreoffice or stream
libreoffice. not sure wich it is.

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 1:16 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote:

 After posting the subject question, I found a couple of options,
 one of which is http://www.quicktopic.com -- not bad, but still
 not as simple as I would like and not hosted on my own system.

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Re: OT: private messaging tool?

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The Google drive simultaneous edit functionality is probably my favorite
feature of their services...

however. Take a look at owncloud. it is an opensource/php driven relative.

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 12:43 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote:

 Is there such a thing as a private message exchange tool that one can
 install on one's own web host server to allow two (or more) people to
 write and edit an ongoing stream of notes in the most efficient, least
 cumbersome manner?

 Decades ago, I had just such a tool with an old bulletin board system
 where anyone could login and write a note that would be automatically
 logged and any message that they wrote would be logged with their
 username, date, time, and text message.

 Simple, fast, efficient.

 I've tried to use Google Drive but (to me) it seems slow and cumbersome.

 PS: Also had a private, simple, and highly efficient chat utility that
 would allow two people to type interactively and save the results to a
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Re: Fan-fic site

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I will second wordpress, It is pretty much designed for written content
management. and its plugins allow you to do other strange and interesting
things.

On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Keith Smith techli...@phpcoderusa.com
wrote:

 If you are going to write reviews WordPress would work just fine with the
 addition of a couple plugins.  If you are going to build a site that works
 like a search engine, you could use WordPress with a plugin for such a
 thing.

 We would need more information to really give you any real feedback.  What
 features are looking for?  Is there an existing site that does what you
 want to do?  If so please share the link.





 On 2015-06-06 21:36, trent shipley wrote:

 I'm thinking of starting a fan-fic site. I had one years ago. Keeping
 track of the links was hell. Would a content management system help?

 I'm thinking of using shared hosting. There won't be any commerce.

 What suggestions do you have?

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Re: Fan-fic site

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I am more suspect of the experience than Django as a whole. Mainly because
of my experience with other code from the group that implemented Django.
On Jun 7, 2015 11:16 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote:

 Sorry to hear that. The latest release is 1.8.2, if that makes a
 difference.

 Mark
 On Jun 7, 2015 8:58 PM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I know it is not likely django's fault but my last experience with it was
 awful...

 On Sunday, June 7, 2015, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
 wrote:

 Just to be different, I really like django (
 https://www.djangoproject.com/ - Python framework) for web development.
 There are several cms type projects based on django. Two good ones are:

 http://www.django-cms.org/en/
 http://mezzanine.jupo.org/

 Lots of modules, lots of options, open source, all Python.

 If you want to see how django works as a framework, take spin through
 the basic tutorial - https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.8/ see First
 Steps. A very strong and helpful community.

 Have fun!

 Mark

 On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Stephen Partington 
 cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I will second wordpress, It is pretty much designed for written content
 management. and its plugins allow you to do other strange and interesting
 things.

 On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Keith Smith techli...@phpcoderusa.com
 wrote:

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 the addition of a couple plugins.  If you are going to build a site that
 works like a search engine, you could use WordPress with a plugin for such
 a thing.

 We would need more information to really give you any real feedback.
 What features are looking for?  Is there an existing site that does what
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 I'm thinking of starting a fan-fic site. I had one years ago. Keeping
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 I'm thinking of using shared hosting. There won't be any commerce.

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Re: Fan-fic site

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I know it is not likely django's fault but my last experience with it was
awful...

On Sunday, June 7, 2015, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote:

 Just to be different, I really like django (https://www.djangoproject.com/
 - Python framework) for web development. There are several cms type
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 http://www.django-cms.org/en/
 http://mezzanine.jupo.org/

 Lots of modules, lots of options, open source, all Python.

 If you want to see how django works as a framework, take spin through the
 basic tutorial - https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.8/ see First Steps.
 A very strong and helpful community.

 Have fun!

 Mark

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 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cryptwo...@gmail.com'); wrote:

 I will second wordpress, It is pretty much designed for written content
 management. and its plugins allow you to do other strange and interesting
 things.

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 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','techli...@phpcoderusa.com'); wrote:

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 What features are looking for?  Is there an existing site that does what
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Re: OT: Data Recovery

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1 to of online storage can be had for cheap. USB backup drives. Or even a
simple raid 1. Look at your Data stored if the cost of any of those is
worth less than the data you store there do something about it.

Advice I give to EVERYONE. Heck look at the disk recovery costs listed. A
2nd drive and external backup is a savings.
On Jun 2, 2015 4:51 PM, Keith Smith techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote:


 Sorry for your lose!

 Interestingly enough the article says The surprising (and bad) news is
 that Seagate 3.0TB drives are failing a lot more, with their failure rate
 jumping from 9% to 15%. The Western Digital 3TB drives have also failed
 more, with their rate going up from 4% to 7%.

 According to the article all others are performing within expected failure
 range... or would that be acceptable range for them?

 I buy Dell and I think they come with Seagate.  I hope I never lose a
 drive.  I lost one at work about 18 years ago.  My manager lost a drive a
 month earlier.  I've had a very uneventful life when it comes to computer
 failures and i hope it stays that way.




 On 2015-06-02 15:46, Eric Cope wrote:

 not at all.
 The failure ended up being two-tiered. The first problem was a
 firmware failure. The fee to recover the first pass was $395. After
 the first pass, they recovered my critical data successfully, however
 it was discovered there were 2 heads that were failing. There was data
 that couldn't be recovered without replacing the heads. They offered
 to take it into their clean room for $750, replace the heads, and
 recover the rest of the data. I didn't need it (it was my brother's
 data and he was too cheap to pay for recovery), so I opted not to
 continue the recovery process.

 FYI - if you have data on Seagates, get it
 off:
 https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-update-september-2014/
 [3]

 Eric

 On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net
 wrote:

  Ouch, if you don't mind my asking, what did it end up costing
 total?  Luckily never needed to myself, but people have asked and I
 never have an answer.

 On or off-list is fine.  :)

 -mb

 On 06/02/2015 11:22 AM, Eric Cope wrote:

  Hi everyone,
 I recently had a Seagate 3TB drive fail on me. The local company,
 Desert Data Recovery, was able to recover all of my critical data.
 They were very responsive and really inexpensive. They did a free
 evaluation and offered a No Data, No Fee policy. I'd highly
 recommend them.

 http://www.desertdatarecovery.com/ [2]

 Just thought I would share. Backups are cheaper, but if you need
 recovery services, check them out.

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Re: OT : Using gmail

[Stephen Partington]

I use google apps at work, as well as gmail for personal use. It has a ton
of solid features. i really like them.
i also like that android and chrome can be set up to keep multiple google
profiles and keep them separate.

Let me know if you have specifc questions. my biggest suggestion is to use
chrome with multiple profiles (if you are going to use it) or (firefox has
a less smooth ability to do this) and make sure to keep the information
seperate.


On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Keith Smith techli...@phpcoderusa.com
wrote:



 Hi,

 I have an email with gmail that is in the form of my-dom...@gmail.com.
 This is a new website I am configuring and I have several google features
 or services configured with the gmail account such as webmaster tools, you
 tube channel, G+... etc.

 I was thinking of using this gmail account as one of my main accounts and
 utilizing the calendar, doc, etc.  I will be focusing mostly on this new
 website and it is for my business.  I already have my-n...@my-domain.com
 to use for business purposes.  I was thinking the gmail calendar and docs
 might a be nice addition.

 I know Google is the biggest of the big brothers and I do not like them
 for that reason.  I was wondering if anyone else was using gmail in earnest
 and what feedback... suggestions... etc you might have.

 Thanks!!

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Re: OT : Using gmail

[Stephen Partington]

I think you can do a 30 day trial and use your provider to point domain
traffic at them without switch fully for 30 days. And it gives you every
feature that you would have with gmail/Google at your business domain.
On Jun 9, 2015 8:06 PM, Keith Smith techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote:

 On 2015-06-09 12:11, Stephen Partington wrote:

 I use google apps at work, as well as gmail for personal use. It has a
 ton of solid features. i really like them.
 i also like that android and chrome can be set up to keep multiple
 google profiles and keep them separate.


 So far I think I just need one.  I was looking at Google apps for work and
 I like what I see.


 Let me know if you have specifc questions. my biggest suggestion is to
 use chrome with multiple profiles (if you are going to use it) or
 (firefox has a less smooth ability to do this) and make sure to keep
 the information seperate.


 Do you know if their email comes with webmail?

 Thank you for your help!!





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 techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote:

  Hi,

 I have an email with gmail that is in the form of
 my-dom...@gmail.com.  This is a new website I am configuring and I
 have several google features or services configured with the gmail
 account such as webmaster tools, you tube channel, G+... etc.

 I was thinking of using this gmail account as one of my main
 accounts and utilizing the calendar, doc, etc.  I will be focusing
 mostly on this new website and it is for my business.  I already
 have my-n...@my-domain.com to use for business purposes.  I was
 thinking the gmail calendar and docs might a be nice addition.

 I know Google is the biggest of the big brothers and I do not like
 them for that reason.  I was wondering if anyone else was using
 gmail in earnest and what feedback... suggestions... etc you might
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 Thanks!!

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Re: OT - sort of

[Stephen Partington]

Evo850 by Samsung is the winner for me. They are fast. Cheap. And come with
a 5 year warranty.
On Jun 23, 2015 12:11 PM, Lyle Tuttle l.tut...@cox.net wrote:

  OK, the hard drive on my windows box is getting old, and every now and
 then during startup, I hear a short burst of chattering..no such
 problem on my Linux laptop, but it does not get as much use, either...

 I want to replace my aging hard drive with a solid state unit.

 Suggestions?  Advice?  Personal experiences to share?

 My Dell System was purchased in December 2010 (I but them heavily loaded,
 and hope they will still be good for a long time, hardware-wise.), and runs
 all day, every day I am home, which is most of the timeI started it
 shortly b4 5am today and will shut down about 10pmtypical day.I
 consider it pretty heavy use.

 TIA

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Re: Games....

[Stephen Partington]

http://store.steampowered.com/browse/linux/

a fast start.

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 I am not a gamer but I was wondering how the selection of games is in
 recent times. It is strange, they don't seem to advertise for games any
 longer. But then again I don't watch much TV with advertising on it.

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Re: xorg: Maximum number of clients reached

[Stephen Partington]

Now this is interesting. It looks like they tuned the FB from a few angles
in Linux.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Nvidia-352-21-Linux-Video-Driver-Is-a-Massive-Update-484392.shtml



On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote:

 Yeah, I've run into that first, I blew out/increased my ulimit's to those
 to some 768k from a default 32k (chrome, thanks), and didn't seem to hit
 those last time, rather just the xclient limit.  Not really sure how much I
 *should* open them really, considering 32k is default, even setting to 3/4
 of a million seems absurd, or a bug, or just google + now kodi.

 I haven't used windoze in so long - do they just not limit anything ala
 fork-bomb style file descriptors?  It's that old paranoia that linux
 bothers to set some limits (justified, I had an old security-inclined buddy
 fubar a system of mine once to prove it, single-user style to recover), but
 seems there just aren't limits under windoze that people consider.

 Guess people are just used to windoze tipping over and rebooting. Granted,
 so am I at this point linux.

 -mb



 On 06/14/2015 09:32 PM, Brian Cluff wrote:

 I was just googling around and found someone who mentioned that the
 Maximum number of clients reached can mean literally that, or can mean
 that your system has run out of file descriptors.
 Check the output of lsof instead of xlsclients and see if you can figure
 out what is eating your system since it sounds like it's more of an FD type
 problem than a max client problem.

 Brian Cluff

 On 06/14/2015 09:22 PM, Michael Butash wrote:

 And right after, could no longer unlock my desktop to get at it, even
 switch ctrl-alt-F1 and back to F7, which normally works until the system
 just comes unglued.

 So there's apparently 2 layers of problems:

 1) xorg clients exceed counts

 2) system craps the bed as a result, not able to spawn new applications
 via xorg display's

 Odd that system level things like simple-locker break when doing so,
 simply no longer rendering.  Upon montior wake-up, I'll see my full
 desktop, even able to mouse over some things like cairo-dock that
 respond to compositing (of which I killed as a test, no kwin/desktop
 effects running since boot), but cannot otherwise interact enough to
 restart/unlock/reboot the window-manager or system.

 Side note, my tty's seem to bind to the non-existent intel sh*t
 card/port on the mobo, so even when ctrl-alt-F1, I don't actually get a
 term.  I can ssh to it, but have tried this, restarting lightdm just
 hangs the system.  Hard reset like a windoze box time.

 And it's back for a few days, again.

 I really don't think my usage that abnormal, but seems no one else runs
 into these things.  Very frustrating.

 -mb


 On 06/14/2015 08:55 PM, Michael Butash wrote:

 Ah, xbmc/kodi seems to be a big reason.

 Fired kodi up to catch certain season ending content tonight, and
 yeah, took me from 118 xclients before to max after.  At least I got
 to watch though.

 I tried to launch something after moving it to the background, no
 launch, no error, just usual telltale signs of brokenness, so checked...

 mb@host:~$ xlsclients -a | sort | wc -l
 Maximum number of clients reachedxlsclients:  unable to open display
 :0
 0

 Thought what changed from an hour ago, nothing more than launching
 kodi.  Killed it (kill -9 pids, kodi wouldn't die otherwise), and voila.

 mb@host:~$ xlsclients -a | sort | wc -l
 118

 As usual, probably plugins developed on windoze that doesn't bother to
 limit exploit of the os (probably more encouraged by the nsa).  But
 hey, at least I know I need to yell at someone there to figure out how
 to code it and their plugins properly.

 Just an fyi.

 Side note, this isn't the ultimate evil it seems but a significant
 one.  Tried to launch a gl-based game last night too, and get things
 like sdl() failures to spawn a window, so there's something else
 getting run-down over time.  Craptastic part is absolutely nothing
 errors system-wise, even doing a blanket tail -f on /var/log/*, hoping
 something would bark to indicate such.  I still think amd binary
 drivers are crap.

 -mb


 On 06/14/2015 12:33 AM, Michael Butash wrote:

 It's gotten *that* unstable lately, it's hardly worse than rebooting
 every few days.

 -mb




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Re: xorg: Maximum number of clients reached

[Stephen Partington]

I think their consumer cards and quadros are limited to 2 displays. And the
nvs line is built for 4. Now depending on what your system has available
you could go with 3 cheaper desktop cards and run them that way. Makes me
wonder if Matrox is still around doing their thing or not.
On Jun 13, 2015 11:43 PM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote:

  Interesting note (imho), I went digging around nvidia's site today,
 trying to familiarize myself with their line of overpriced video cards aka
 quadro's.  What I found was most of their website doesn't render or work
 properly, half the links were broken, half their pdf's didn't download, and
 in general looks like something a 10 year old put together (or me, meh for
 aesthetics).  Wow, you'd think they could afford some competent web
 developers at least.

 Sadly seems every card that can do mosaic mode, including sli to achieve
 nvidia's qualifications to support sli were $500+ used on ebay, needing
 multiple cards of them, in the kepler (K) line of cards or better to
 achieve.  I guess it's one of those ymmv/get what you pay for sort of
 things to support what I don't necessarily expect should cost me $1000+ to
 support my 6 displays, and really not sure even that is any better/worse
 than AMD's support until I see it.

 Seeing as no one at AMD gives a real darn about real linux support (hark!
 yet another COD windoze game came out with broken dx rendering, support!),
 it might be worth the price, but the childish/broken website from nvidia
 makes me loathe to want to invest there either, figuring I'll see the same
 brokenness I see with amd.

 -mb


 On 06/12/2015 06:45 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:

 I need to install and check.
 On Jun 12, 2015 4:20 PM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote:

  Stephen, out of curiosity, what does your xrandr show as a max
 framebuffer size on your quadro?

 mb@host:~$ xrandr | grep maximum
 Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 11520 x 1200, maximum 16384 x 16384

 This was a big limiter for me, in the past I couldn't figure out why my
 old ATI 5800 card with 6 ports wouldn't support a full, single framebuffer,
 but was internally limited to 8192x8192, with the 6xxx+ supporting
 16384x16384.  Xorg wasn't too forthcoming with that info, and it was prior
 to xrandr support in their drivers, so totally left me scratching my head
 until escalating with AMD support to an engineer with a clue that told me
 that.

 With the advent of 4k displays, they still seem limited to that, which
 means I can only do 4x wide until vendors give to open that up.

 Thanks!

 -mb


 On 06/12/2015 03:55 PM, Michael Butash wrote:

 Next time I have an absolute need to upgrade hardware, I plan on avoiding
 ati/amd at all costs.  After dealing with them for a good 5 years as the
 only real viable option to run my displays, only to be wrought with
 constant disappointment, problems, and frustration.  Buying highly
 overpriced quadro cards might be money well spent at this point, but I
 still despise nvidia that they're really little other than rebranded, and
 marked-up normal video cards with driver-locked (to bios-id) features.

 That said, going to set up some ebay agents to look for decent quadro's
 to snipe.  I had good luck getting my last few amd cards that way on the
 cheap, gotta love jbidwatcher for cheating some other person with a
 last-second bid.

 Thanks as always for the input Stephen.

 -mb


 On 06/12/2015 03:20 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:

  I have almost given up on ATI, if i want just multiple screens i would
 look into the Quadro NVS cards. Such as the NVS 510 or the K1200. They may
 be very proprietary to get running, but my success with Nvidia cards in
 both linux and windows really makes it worthwhile. These cards will only do
 a single monitor, but they are cheap enough to run 2 cards with reasonable
 usability. or one NVS and one more Gamer friendly card.



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Re: OT: Laptop Disposal

[Stephen Partington]

There are some similar parts between the 610 and the 620
On Jun 13, 2015 5:45 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote:

 I wonder if it would work on a Dell D620? I have one of those that works
 (I think) but the screen is dead.

 Or, perhaps we are both in need of a donation drop for laptops? ;)

 Mark

 On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 3:27 PM, AZ Pete p...@cactusfamily.com wrote:

  Hi All,

 I have an old laptop that I need to dispose of. I've never had to
 dispose of a laptop before and want to know where I can properly dispose
 of this thing.  I live in N. Scottsdale, so somewhere close by would be
 great.

 BTW, if anyone wants an old, non-functioning Dell Latitude D610, come get
 it . No charge.
 It boots to the the Dell screen and freezes. Never gets to the O/S.  Maybe
 good for parts??

 Thanks,
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Re: xorg: Maximum number of clients reached

[Stephen Partington]

This is a bit of what I had in mind 90 a card. Dual head. 3 cards for sub
300

Here is a great deal on the PNY Quadro NVS 310 VCNVS310DVI-PB 512MB 64-bit
DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Workstation Video Card ,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-133-463
I found.
On Jun 13, 2015 11:53 PM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think their consumer cards and quadros are limited to 2 displays. And
 the nvs line is built for 4. Now depending on what your system has
 available you could go with 3 cheaper desktop cards and run them that way.
 Makes me wonder if Matrox is still around doing their thing or not.
 On Jun 13, 2015 11:43 PM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote:

  Interesting note (imho), I went digging around nvidia's site today,
 trying to familiarize myself with their line of overpriced video cards aka
 quadro's.  What I found was most of their website doesn't render or work
 properly, half the links were broken, half their pdf's didn't download, and
 in general looks like something a 10 year old put together (or me, meh for
 aesthetics).  Wow, you'd think they could afford some competent web
 developers at least.

 Sadly seems every card that can do mosaic mode, including sli to
 achieve nvidia's qualifications to support sli were $500+ used on ebay,
 needing multiple cards of them, in the kepler (K) line of cards or better
 to achieve.  I guess it's one of those ymmv/get what you pay for sort of
 things to support what I don't necessarily expect should cost me $1000+ to
 support my 6 displays, and really not sure even that is any better/worse
 than AMD's support until I see it.

 Seeing as no one at AMD gives a real darn about real linux support (hark!
 yet another COD windoze game came out with broken dx rendering, support!),
 it might be worth the price, but the childish/broken website from nvidia
 makes me loathe to want to invest there either, figuring I'll see the same
 brokenness I see with amd.

 -mb


 On 06/12/2015 06:45 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:

 I need to install and check.
 On Jun 12, 2015 4:20 PM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote:

  Stephen, out of curiosity, what does your xrandr show as a max
 framebuffer size on your quadro?

 mb@host:~$ xrandr | grep maximum
 Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 11520 x 1200, maximum 16384 x 16384

 This was a big limiter for me, in the past I couldn't figure out why my
 old ATI 5800 card with 6 ports wouldn't support a full, single framebuffer,
 but was internally limited to 8192x8192, with the 6xxx+ supporting
 16384x16384.  Xorg wasn't too forthcoming with that info, and it was prior
 to xrandr support in their drivers, so totally left me scratching my head
 until escalating with AMD support to an engineer with a clue that told me
 that.

 With the advent of 4k displays, they still seem limited to that, which
 means I can only do 4x wide until vendors give to open that up.

 Thanks!

 -mb


 On 06/12/2015 03:55 PM, Michael Butash wrote:

 Next time I have an absolute need to upgrade hardware, I plan on
 avoiding ati/amd at all costs.  After dealing with them for a good 5 years
 as the only real viable option to run my displays, only to be wrought with
 constant disappointment, problems, and frustration.  Buying highly
 overpriced quadro cards might be money well spent at this point, but I
 still despise nvidia that they're really little other than rebranded, and
 marked-up normal video cards with driver-locked (to bios-id) features.

 That said, going to set up some ebay agents to look for decent quadro's
 to snipe.  I had good luck getting my last few amd cards that way on the
 cheap, gotta love jbidwatcher for cheating some other person with a
 last-second bid.

 Thanks as always for the input Stephen.

 -mb


 On 06/12/2015 03:20 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:

  I have almost given up on ATI, if i want just multiple screens i would
 look into the Quadro NVS cards. Such as the NVS 510 or the K1200. They may
 be very proprietary to get running, but my success with Nvidia cards in
 both linux and windows really makes it worthwhile. These cards will only do
 a single monitor, but they are cheap enough to run 2 cards with reasonable
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Re: xorg: Maximum number of clients reached

[Stephen Partington]

I have almost given up on ATI, if i want just multiple screens i would look
into the Quadro NVS cards. Such as the NVS 510 or the K1200. They may be
very proprietary to get running, but my success with Nvidia cards in both
linux and windows really makes it worthwhile. These cards will only do a
single monitor, but they are cheap enough to run 2 cards with reasonable
usability. or one NVS and one more Gamer friendly card.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote:

 Looking at those results after responding, I noticed I only have 5 okular
 instances open, the pdf reader (sadly I stay mired in pdf documentation
 often), when it's spawning 13 xclient sessions.  I wonder if this is just
 being stupid is what's blowing it out somehow.

 PDF's, another bit lf legacy windoze technology I wish would die. I hate
 adobe, but it's become defacto for doc standards when libreoffice vs.
 openoffice vs. microsith office stay in a pissing match with each other.

 -mb



 On 06/12/2015 02:56 PM, Michael Butash wrote:

 Thanks for the comments Matt - in line.

 On 06/12/2015 02:18 PM, Matt Graham wrote:

 On 2015-06-11 17:20, Michael Butash wrote:

 [X reaching a maximum number of clients is a problem] in that it
 simply refuses to open new [X clients], and [I] find this happens
 more and more these days. Am I like the only actual person to use
 linux these days that this occurs with?


 I've never seen this happen.  What do you get when this is happening and
 you do xlsclients | sort | uniq -c ?  I currently have 64 X clients
 running here.  Most KDE things show up as 2 or 3 X clients.  plasma-desktop
 shows up as 20.  firefox shows up as 1.

 I was actually trying to remember that command as I've seen it referenced
 and checked before, so thanks for that.

 Every now and then problem will piss me off royally as literally my pc
 won't be able to wake my monitors up out of dpms sleep because of this
 (presumably), thus I have to hard reboot.  Odd part is when it freaks like
 this, even ssh'ing in from my laptop, killing some pids (ie.
 chrome|chromium I have an xargs script I keep to seek and destroy all), and
 it still won't wake then.  I need add something to watch these...

 After it did this the other day upon composition of the email, I killed
 the chrom*'s, and it's been a bit stable.  xrestop was another that was
 recommended to watch, but by the time I hit that limit, even xrestop gives
 me the max number of clients reached, even though a cli application...

 Another way I know my system is almost ready to implode is waking up out
 of monitor sleep, expecting to see the simple-locker screen, rather I see a
 full desktop, unhidden, but I can't actually click on anything.  Yeah, so
 much for privacy/security, but at least someone couldn't interact with it.
 It requires me to ctrl-alt-F1, switch to a tty, and back to F7 to see the
 locker again, unlock, and actually use my desktop.  Seem another byproduct
 of xorg freaking out.

 At the (working) moment...

 mb@host:~$ xlsclients | sort | wc -l
 144
 mb@host:~$ xlsclients | sort | uniq -c
   1 host  baloo_file
   1 host  bamfdaemon
   1 host  Banshee
   1 host  blueman-applet
   1 host  cairo-dock
   1 host  chromium-browser
   1 host  dolphin
   1 host  eom
   1 host  evince
   1 host  gcalctool
   1 host  gkrellm
   1 host  gnome-terminal
   1 host  ibus-ui-gtk3
   1 host  ibus-x11
   1 host  kactivitymanagerd
   3 host  kded4
   1 host  'kdeinit4: kded4 [kdeinit]'
   1 host  'kdeinit4: ksmserver [kdeinit]'
   1 host  kglobalaccel
   1 host  klipper
   1 host  kmix
   1 host  knotify4
   1 host  konsole
   1 host  korgac
   1 host  krunner
   2 host  ksmserver
   1 host  kuiserver
   1 host  kwalletd
   6 host  kwin
   1 host  mate-screensaver
   1 host  nautilus
   5 host  okular
   1 host  pavucontrol
   1 host  Pidgin
   1 host  plasma-desktop
   1 host  pluma
   1 host  polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1
   1 host  soffice.bin
   1 host  thunderbird
   1 host  transmission-remote-gtk
   2 host  /usr/bin/baloo_file
   3 host  /usr/bin/dolphin
   1 host  /usr/bin/kactivitymanagerd
   2 host  /usr/bin/kglobalaccel
   3 host  /usr/bin/klipper
   8 host  /usr/bin/kmix
   8 host  /usr/bin/konsole
   2 host  /usr/bin/korgac
   3 host  /usr/bin/krunner
   2 host  /usr/bin/kuiserver
   2 host  /usr/bin/kwalletd
  13 host  /usr/bin/okular
  29 host  /usr/bin/plasma-desktop
   2 host /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1
   2 host  /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin
   1 host  /usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox
   2 host  /usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox --comment shitxp --startvm
 81289eb9-7de8-492c-9a4f-56977a2b8eca --no-startvm-errormsgbox
   1 host  vino-server
   2 host  VirtualBox
   

Re: xorg: Maximum number of clients reached

[Stephen Partington]

I need to install and check.
On Jun 12, 2015 4:20 PM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote:

  Stephen, out of curiosity, what does your xrandr show as a max
 framebuffer size on your quadro?

 mb@host:~$ xrandr | grep maximum
 Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 11520 x 1200, maximum 16384 x 16384

 This was a big limiter for me, in the past I couldn't figure out why my
 old ATI 5800 card with 6 ports wouldn't support a full, single framebuffer,
 but was internally limited to 8192x8192, with the 6xxx+ supporting
 16384x16384.  Xorg wasn't too forthcoming with that info, and it was prior
 to xrandr support in their drivers, so totally left me scratching my head
 until escalating with AMD support to an engineer with a clue that told me
 that.

 With the advent of 4k displays, they still seem limited to that, which
 means I can only do 4x wide until vendors give to open that up.

 Thanks!

 -mb


 On 06/12/2015 03:55 PM, Michael Butash wrote:

 Next time I have an absolute need to upgrade hardware, I plan on avoiding
 ati/amd at all costs.  After dealing with them for a good 5 years as the
 only real viable option to run my displays, only to be wrought with
 constant disappointment, problems, and frustration.  Buying highly
 overpriced quadro cards might be money well spent at this point, but I
 still despise nvidia that they're really little other than rebranded, and
 marked-up normal video cards with driver-locked (to bios-id) features.

 That said, going to set up some ebay agents to look for decent quadro's to
 snipe.  I had good luck getting my last few amd cards that way on the
 cheap, gotta love jbidwatcher for cheating some other person with a
 last-second bid.

 Thanks as always for the input Stephen.

 -mb


 On 06/12/2015 03:20 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:

  I have almost given up on ATI, if i want just multiple screens i would
 look into the Quadro NVS cards. Such as the NVS 510 or the K1200. They may
 be very proprietary to get running, but my success with Nvidia cards in
 both linux and windows really makes it worthwhile. These cards will only do
 a single monitor, but they are cheap enough to run 2 cards with reasonable
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Re: Fan-fic site

[Stephen Partington]

There is a great deal on wordpress both in print and online. But any basic
lamp set up would do, you can even get a free wp instance at
http://wordpress.orgwordpress.com to evaluate.
OK. WordPress gets better reviews. I guess what I need to do before finding
a shared host that supports WordPress (which I suspect will be most of
them) is to set up my development site on my home computer.

So what is that?

* Fedora on virtual machine. (On the theory I'll be hosted on Red Hat --
I'll want a Red Hat derived distro.)
* Apache, or maybe Tomcat, serving local host
* WordPress (and pre-requisites)

A dead tree book on WordPress
Eclipse or whatever IDE you develop PHP in (maybe)

A web authoring program.

Feedback is much appreciated.



On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 4:16 PM Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I am more suspect of the experience than Django as a whole. Mainly because
 of my experience with other code from the group that implemented Django.
 On Jun 7, 2015 11:16 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
 wrote:

 Sorry to hear that. The latest release is 1.8.2, if that makes a
 difference.

 Mark
 On Jun 7, 2015 8:58 PM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I know it is not likely django's fault but my last experience with it
 was awful...

 On Sunday, June 7, 2015, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
 wrote:

 Just to be different, I really like django (
 https://www.djangoproject.com/ - Python framework) for web
 development. There are several cms type projects based on django. Two good
 ones are:

 http://www.django-cms.org/en/
 http://mezzanine.jupo.org/

 Lots of modules, lots of options, open source, all Python.

 If you want to see how django works as a framework, take spin through
 the basic tutorial - https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.8/ see First
 Steps. A very strong and helpful community.

 Have fun!

 Mark

 On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Stephen Partington 
 cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I will second wordpress, It is pretty much designed for written
 content management. and its plugins allow you to do other strange and
 interesting things.

 On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Keith Smith techli...@phpcoderusa.com
  wrote:

 If you are going to write reviews WordPress would work just fine with
 the addition of a couple plugins.  If you are going to build a site that
 works like a search engine, you could use WordPress with a plugin for 
 such
 a thing.

 We would need more information to really give you any real feedback.
 What features are looking for?  Is there an existing site that does what
 you want to do?  If so please share the link.





 On 2015-06-06 21:36, trent shipley wrote:

 I'm thinking of starting a fan-fic site. I had one years ago. Keeping
 track of the links was hell. Would a content management system help?

 I'm thinking of using shared hosting. There won't be any commerce.

 What suggestions do you have?

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Re: xorg: Maximum number of clients reached

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Have you tried weyland yet to see if it is any improvement? I think fedora
has a build running weyland. (memory is fuzzy on this one.)
On Jun 11, 2015 5:20 PM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote:

 So this seems to be a big problem for me, in that it simply refuses to
 open new apps, and find this happens more and more these days. Am I like
 the only actual person to use linux these days that this occurs with?

 I've seen reports of this, stating it's a hard-coded thing in xorg code,
 which I find entirely asinine, but seems a reality when using
 Chrome/Chromium that launches some 300 flocks on various things, and blows
 out the 256/512 client count on xorg.  I find this almost stupid, and feel
 I'm back to the days of windoze me having to reboot every other day.

 Reality is I have 3 chrome profiles open, some pdfs, libreoffice, some
 chrome apps, some file manager windows (dolphin/kde), and not much else.
 Sort of want to punch someone in the face when I see this - someone is
 obviously doing something wrong, and really can't see why.  All I can ever
 think is really, am I the only person that really uses a linux desktop to
 see these?

 Uninstalling pepperflash, or any flash vermin, seems to have done some
 good, no longer causing a persistent memory leak in xorg/fglrx drivers, but
 otherwise chrome|chromium still seems an absolute basketcase under linux,
 forgetting there are resource limits they should consider adhering to.

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Re: what to do if lost password

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I think i recall you working with Linux Mint, but this should be reasonably
close for most *buntu/debian related builds.

http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/339

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I haven't changed anything yet but in my trial run on the computer I do
 not want to change anything on it asked me for the new password.
  These are the instructions I followed:

 Just use GRUB to boot into single user mode / recovery mode.

 (1) At grub boot screen (after restart)
 (2) Select the kernel
 (3) Press the e key to edit the entry
 (4) Select line starting with the word kernel or linux
 (6) Append the letter S (or word Single) to the end of the (kernel) line
 Append init=/bin/sh to the kernel command line
 cntrl-X
  then mount the root filesystem (if it isn't already done for you) and run
 passwd to reset the root password or passwd user to reset user's password.


 :-)~MIKE~(-:

 On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 This works great on Linux based systems. But on something running Linux
 you will need to hash the registry and reset the password. There is a tool
 to do this if there are any local users present. (does not work on active
 directory accounts).
 On May 27, 2015 7:17 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I got a friend upon whose computer (old XP) I installed Linux. She
 called me last night  because she forgot the password. Well, I asked the
 Florida user group about what to do and this is what they had to say:


 Just use GRUB to boot into single user mode / recovery mode.

 Append *init=/bin/sh* to the kernel command line, then mount the root
 filesystem (if it isn't already done for you) and run *passwd *to reset
 the root password or *password user *to reset user's password.



 http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-recover-root-password-under-linux-with-single-user-mode/
 I'd bring a CD containing System Rescue CD just in case.

 http://www.sysresccd.org/SystemRescueCd_Homepage

 By the way, you can bust back into borked VMs with System Rescue CD ISO
 files, too.

 By the way, if you use System Rescue CD, do something like this,
 assuming her / is the mountpoint for /dev/sda1:

 mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
 chroot /mnt/ bash
 cd /etc
 vi passwd

 Now delete the x between the first and second colons, for both user
 root and her ordinary username, then quit vi

 exit
 umount /mnt
 reboot

 Now, when asked for her password, leave it blank and she'll get in.
 Then she can change her password as desired. Same thing's true the
 first time she logs in as root.

 If she's not trustworthy enough to leave with blank passwords, you
 could probably use the passwd program after the chroot to change the
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Re: Article / Data warehouse cms software

[Stephen Partington]

I was looking at the WordPress knowledge base plugin is pretty neat.
On May 26, 2015 6:58 PM, Nathan England nat...@nmecs.com wrote:

 Thanks for all the input. The articles that are going to be put into the
 system currently only exist on paper. Which I have no plans of scanning in.
 These will be lovingly typed in, mostly by myself. Many of the articles
 will have references to each other, so wikimedia's easy ability to link
 between other documents is important to me. I want it simple.

 This is definitely one of those issues where I really want the technology
 to just help me do what I want to do and not turn into a major development
 project or something that requires more time to maintain than the system
 itself for me to use.

 I just want to type in my documents and be able to search and link between
 them.

 If it helps at all, this is personal bible study notes and sermons from
 the last 10 years. I don't want to lose any of it and I want to expand on a
 lot of it. I also want to begin typing up a complete commentary as detailed
 as possible. I really want to take advantage of the inter-linking between
 documents.

 Thanks again for all your thoughts!




 On 2015-05-26 17:33, Mark Phillips wrote:

  I also looked at dspace. It has lots of bells and whistles for
 professional archivists, especially in the workflow for adding something to
 the repository. I am not sure if one can bypass any of the steps. It was
 too complicated for my needs. It meets all sorts of standards for archiving
 documents, but my project does not need to be standards compliant. Mayan
 also has a workflow associated with adding something to the repository, but
 it seems to be much more streamlined and appropriate for my archiving
 needs. Dspace is also a Java/Tomcat application, so a bit heavier than I
 wanted to host for my project. Just my 2 cents based on a fair amount of
 research in this area. I am by no means an expert!


 Mark

 On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Well if you are looking to store a digital library you can consider
 something like D-Space

 http://www.dspace.org/

 It is a bit finicky to set up but it does work on revision management and
 actually managing and maintaining your data. do some reading before you
 decide to try it. it is not for the feint of heart.

 On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Mark Phillips 
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote:

   Nathan,

 I am in the same boat. I have lots of scaned documents (pdfs, tiffs,
 jpegs, etc.) to tag and make searchable. I tried a wiki and did not have
 much luck. I stumbled upon mayan edms (http://www.mayan-edms.com/) and
 it looks pretty good. It is a django based open source project for storing,
 tagging, and searching documents such as I have. It also does ocr as
 documents are imported, so the searches cover both meta tags and document
 content. It keeps a modification history for all documents. It can use
 SQLite, MySql, postgress, etc. as the db. Django is a pretty simple
 framework to understand. The only downside is that the community support is
 sparse and the docs are also sparse. I am just now looking at the code to
 see how well it is documented.

 Most of the archival software I looked at are Java based, and I prefer
 Python because for this small project it uses less resources.

 Let me know if you plan to use it. Perhaps we could help each other
 understand the project.

 Mark

 On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Stephen Partington 
 cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

  If you know wordpress i would stick with it. additionally there are
 plugins for wiki as well.

 https://wordpress.org/plugins/search.php?q=wiki

 and knowledge base functionality. (might have to investigate these for
 my own use)

 https://wordpress.org/plugins/search.php?type=termq=knowledgebase

 On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Matt Graham mhgra...@crow202.org
 wrote:

 On 2015-05-25 21:08, Nathan England wrote:

 I have a project to store a lot of data. Articles, stories, and
 encyclopedia type stuff. My first thought was to use a wiki
 (wikimedia) as it makes the contents easily searchable, but what
 about
 other cms systems like wordpress?

  Wordpress is generally more centralized, as it puts the most
 recent blog posts up on the main page.  Whether you'd use it or a wiki
 really depends on what the users will be doing since there are things 
 wikis
 do better than wordpress.  The default wordpress search seems to work OK.
 Writing internal links using wordpress is more difficult than doing that 
 in
 a wiki.

 I am not familiar with wikimedia and its maintenance requirements.
 I can say that WordPress does not require a lot of attention.


 This depends greatly on the users.  Setting up a wiki and running it
 is not really difficult or resource-consuming if you don't have many users
 and none of them are actively trying to destroy the site.  If you have a
 bunch of active users, you're going to need moderators and handle

Re: Chromium -vs- chrome on Linux Mint?

[Stephen Partington]

Well chrome/chromium both use lots of ram and file handlers intentionally.
Pre caching page loads and a few other things. Extra threads so that (in
theory) one page bites it the other process should still be just fine.
On Jun 1, 2015 11:14 PM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote:

 I'm pretty abusive on my system as I do what I consider well more than
 most with it, but honestly, I don't see it should be an issue with the
 latest i7 proc and loaded with memory, if they build it to scale properly.
 Mine simply works, until it comes unglued, which seems to be more and more
 often, almost at least once a day, usually more.

 Weird part is I do limit extensively what plugins and scripts run, exactly
 to limit this, and websites doing nefarious things, this just seems like
 systemically buggy with the browser.  Adblock, scriptsafe are staples,
 which has always sufficed to keep it on a short leash.

 Because it does tend to be unstable, and ubuntu to boot, I tend to watch
 htop constantly on a spare monitor (joy of having 5 currently), and will
 see things like pepper-flash kick off, go ape, and slam my system until I
 kill -9 it.  Flash sucks.  Thusly I recently decided to go flash-free, and
 any site still lame enough to use it can bite me.  This helped, but still
 rampantly goes batty.

 As mentioned, the worst part is with my setup, with an extensive number of
 tabs as I normally keep open, tends to consume somewhere in the
 neighborhood of 250k file handlers between unix sockets and actual files
 (mostly shared libs).  At first I thought his was a bug, then began doing
 some statistical analysis of the situation, browsers (chrome|chromium) x
 profiles (3x for personal, work and work) x tabs (lots) x libs+sockets each
 (man).  All I can think is wow, this is a highly inefficient piece of
 shit.

 Then I think back to old firefox circa 2005, single instantiated memory
 space for all tabs being not that cool either, buggy, crashy, but that was
 also under windoze, part of what drove me to linux.  Before bloated window
 managers, compositing, gpu weirdness, etc, it worked 20x better than
 windoze, then chrome came along and blew it away.  At the cost of memory,
 but it never used to be this horribly random and buggy to where memory was
 a small price for hyper usage.

 I don't know, perhaps I really am just abusing the system, but it works
 great, until it doesn't.  Lately it just reminds me of the dark days of
 windoze 98/me crashing or needing reboot every few days with not even that
 much abuse.

 -mb


 On 06/01/2015 08:23 PM, Michael Havens wrote:

 Michael, Chrome never  crashes on me. I used chromium before and it too
 never crashed. Maybe I don't do as intensive things as you.

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Re: Laptop teardown

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I know on amazon right now you can find 15 based Dell Lattitude E5420's for
200-250 with 4GB ram. they are refurbished but its a pretty smokin deal for
a laptop that is easier to work on than your average consumer use laptop.

On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 to get my keyboard replaced it cost almost as much as the laptop
 (christmas sale price).

 On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 A new laptop is a better idea.

 On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Jack Hildwine jackhildw...@cox.net
 wrote:

 I have an HP Pavillion dv4 circa 2008 and the fan is running more
 lately. I started-in to try and remedy this myself then stopped and watched
 a couple YouTube videos and decided that I'd rather pay someone else for
 what is essentially a full teardown.

 Does anyone have a recommendation for a shop in the Chandler, Gilbert,
 Mesa, Scottsdale arc that can do this for me?

 TIA,
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Re: A question regarding LAG/Ping on game servers.

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Mostly it's in how they are making cheaper gigabit ethernet.
On Jul 3, 2015 4:40 PM, Wayne D wayda...@centurylink.net wrote:

 I have a question regarding ping times in game servers:


 I've noticed when playing several online games that ping times go up as
 more players connect.
 I also run a small game server here at my house and have witnessed this
 issue first-hand. The processing overhead of the game is actually quite
 small even with 12 players and I suspect it would not go above 25 to 30%.

 This issue doesn't make any sense to me when we are talking about no more
 than 12 players connected.
 My bandwidth both up and down are sufficient to handle the traffic with
 plenty of room to spare.

 The extra overhead on a single pipe in my mind should not make any
 difference considering the processor speeds are so much faster than the
 data travelling across the Internet. From my perspective, I should be able
 to connect 100 different players and see no change in lag/ping TO EACH
 PLAYER.  I understand that all players have to go through the protocol
 stack on the net card but that shouldn't matter correct?

 Or, is the actual problem the network card itself? Is that the reason for
 the lag? If so, is there a type of card that I should be looking for “high
 throughput?

 Could somebody elaborate on the mechanics of this?

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Re: New controller card

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I have not seen this combination before. I have seen headers that will
export a Satan connection to e-sata. And USB3 cards. But both sepereate
especially when power is involved.
On Jun 27, 2015 9:28 PM, Steve B stev...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can anyone direct me to a PCIe controller card that has an eSATA and USB 3
 port externally and both a power and internal connector for some sort of
 USB 3 hub? Google shows several but most lack the power and internal
 connector.

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Re: Self signed cert for multiple websites

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As long as the domain remains the same the same cert should work. Once
that changes you will need a new cert.


On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Keith Smith techli...@phpcoderusa.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 I've configured a VM using VirtualBox and it is running CentOS 6.6.

 To create the self signed cert I followed 3 steps:

 1) mkdir /etc/httpd/ssl

 2) cd /etc/httpd/ssl

 3) openssl req -x509 -nodes -days 4000 -newkey rsa:2048 -keyout
 /etc/httpd/ssl/name-of-my-test-site.key -out
 /etc/httpd/ssl/name-of-my-test-site.crt

 I've tested the cert and it works.

 Now I want to add more test sites to my VM.

 I've done some research and am not finding any information about how to
 configure the self signed cert(s) for multiple sites.  From reading the
 docs it appears that I create one cert for the box and it will be used by
 all the sites on my box (test/dev VM).  Is this true or do I need to create
 a cert specific for each virtual host?  If I need to create a cert for each
 virtual host, how do I do so?

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Re: OT: Is it just me or is Firefox slowing worse?

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I actually have been noticing this. Have since moved back to Chrome for a
small handful of reasons.


On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 4:43 PM, j...@actionline.com wrote:

 Is it just me or is Firefox slowing down worse all the time?

 Is there anything (new) that can be done to speed it up?

 I've made all the changes in about:config that I know to make.

 Or ... is the problem (also) my computer?

 Is there some way to clear memory other than to have to reboot?

 Day by day, everything just seems to get slower and slower
 until I finally give up and reboot and then things work
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Re: Article / Data warehouse cms software

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If you know wordpress i would stick with it. additionally there are plugins
for wiki as well.

https://wordpress.org/plugins/search.php?q=wiki

and knowledge base functionality. (might have to investigate these for my
own use)

https://wordpress.org/plugins/search.php?type=termq=knowledgebase

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Matt Graham mhgra...@crow202.org wrote:

 On 2015-05-25 21:08, Nathan England wrote:

 I have a project to store a lot of data. Articles, stories, and
 encyclopedia type stuff. My first thought was to use a wiki
 (wikimedia) as it makes the contents easily searchable, but what about
 other cms systems like wordpress?


 Wordpress is generally more centralized, as it puts the most recent blog
 posts up on the main page.  Whether you'd use it or a wiki really depends
 on what the users will be doing since there are things wikis do better than
 wordpress.  The default wordpress search seems to work OK.  Writing
 internal links using wordpress is more difficult than doing that in a wiki.

  I am not familiar with wikimedia and its maintenance requirements.
 I can say that WordPress does not require a lot of attention.


 This depends greatly on the users.  Setting up a wiki and running it is
 not really difficult or resource-consuming if you don't have many users and
 none of them are actively trying to destroy the site.  If you have a bunch
 of active users, you're going to need moderators and handle the inevitable
 flame wars.  They come out with a new version of wordpress every couple of
 months, and updating usually doesn't break anything or take a lot of time.
 If you have comments enabled on wordpress, you will need to periodically
 get rid of the spam since there are many people out there comment-spamming
 wordpress sites.

  If you are doing something very heavy duty Drupal might be a
 candidate.


 I'd say avoid drupal unless you know you need it but that's just MHO.

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Re: Article / Data warehouse cms software

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CMS is really meant to be touched allot and make for easy updates, blogging
etc. Wiki is still a really good candidate, also knowledgebase systems
would be something to consider. whatever you use make sure it has a god
application of meta tagging.

In the end all that matters is searchability, layout, and entry for SME's.

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 I have a project to store a lot of data. Articles, stories, and
 encyclopedia type stuff. My first thought was to use a wiki (wikimedia) as
 it makes the contents easily searchable, but what about other cms systems
 like wordpress?

 My question is, do any of you store lots of content which can be edited
 occasionally, searched often, and constantly has new stuff added? What do
 you use to store it in?

 Another great benefit would be an easily backed up system, obviously a
 wordpress/db or wiki/db would be easily backed up. But I also need the
 ability to print in a basic format. And if I could access it and read on my
 phone it would be even better.

 I appreciate your thoughts and input!

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Re: Article / Data warehouse cms software

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Well if you are looking to store a digital library you can consider
something like D-Space

http://www.dspace.org/

It is a bit finicky to set up but it does work on revision management and
actually managing and maintaining your data. do some reading before you
decide to try it. it is not for the feint of heart.

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
wrote:

 Nathan,

 I am in the same boat. I have lots of scaned documents (pdfs, tiffs,
 jpegs, etc.) to tag and make searchable. I tried a wiki and did not have
 much luck. I stumbled upon mayan edms (http://www.mayan-edms.com/) and it
 looks pretty good. It is a django based open source project for storing,
 tagging, and searching documents such as I have. It also does ocr as
 documents are imported, so the searches cover both meta tags and document
 content. It keeps a modification history for all documents. It can use
 SQLite, MySql, postgress, etc. as the db. Django is a pretty simple
 framework to understand. The only downside is that the community support is
 sparse and the docs are also sparse. I am just now looking at the code to
 see how well it is documented.

 Most of the archival software I looked at are Java based, and I prefer
 Python because for this small project it uses less resources.

 Let me know if you plan to use it. Perhaps we could help each other
 understand the project.

 Mark

 On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 If you know wordpress i would stick with it. additionally there are
 plugins for wiki as well.

 https://wordpress.org/plugins/search.php?q=wiki

 and knowledge base functionality. (might have to investigate these for my
 own use)

 https://wordpress.org/plugins/search.php?type=termq=knowledgebase

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 wrote:

 On 2015-05-25 21:08, Nathan England wrote:

 I have a project to store a lot of data. Articles, stories, and
 encyclopedia type stuff. My first thought was to use a wiki
 (wikimedia) as it makes the contents easily searchable, but what about
 other cms systems like wordpress?


 Wordpress is generally more centralized, as it puts the most recent
 blog posts up on the main page.  Whether you'd use it or a wiki really
 depends on what the users will be doing since there are things wikis do
 better than wordpress.  The default wordpress search seems to work OK.
 Writing internal links using wordpress is more difficult than doing that in
 a wiki.

  I am not familiar with wikimedia and its maintenance requirements.
 I can say that WordPress does not require a lot of attention.


 This depends greatly on the users.  Setting up a wiki and running it is
 not really difficult or resource-consuming if you don't have many users and
 none of them are actively trying to destroy the site.  If you have a bunch
 of active users, you're going to need moderators and handle the inevitable
 flame wars.  They come out with a new version of wordpress every couple of
 months, and updating usually doesn't break anything or take a lot of time.
 If you have comments enabled on wordpress, you will need to periodically
 get rid of the spam since there are many people out there comment-spamming
 wordpress sites.

  If you are doing something very heavy duty Drupal might be a
 candidate.


 I'd say avoid drupal unless you know you need it but that's just MHO.

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Re: Seeking recommendations for best Linux ultralights

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I have been trying to wrap my head around a Chromebook experience with
limited success. I would also be interested in hearing about your
experience.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Keith Smith techli...@phpcoderusa.com
wrote:

 Please post your experience so we can learn from it.



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 Thanks to everyone for all the helpful suggestions.

 We have a chromebook, but never learned how to work with
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Re: OT: Strong wireless signal on phone won't connect??

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check the router for errors or mac address blocks?

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 Why is wifi failing to connect on one phone when others on my system
 connect okay?

 It says the signal is excellent and Authenticating
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Ubuntu Touch on Nexus 7 2013 (LTE)

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So i was recently able to get a hold of a 2013 Nexus 7 tablet.  Didn't last
long before stock was no fun anymore (its an issue i know) and installed CM
12.1 this is working well for me but i then recalled how much i have been
wanting to try Ubuntu Touch. so i set myself up to install today. so far it
has installed nicely.

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Re: Ubuntu Touch on Nexus 7 2013 (LTE)

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so far it is really nice.

just signed in to Ubuntu One and am getting updates.

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 you're cool man!

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 So i was recently able to get a hold of a 2013 Nexus 7 tablet.  Didn't
 last long before stock was no fun anymore (its an issue i know) and
 installed CM 12.1 this is working well for me but i then recalled how much
 i have been wanting to try Ubuntu Touch. so i set myself up to install
 today. so far it has installed nicely.

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Re: Ubuntu Touch on Nexus 7 2013 (LTE)

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They wouldn't need to emulate the android run-time as much as include it.
as the android run-time is an engine on top of a Linux kernel. that would
give them a huge application repository.

I am not a fan of a number of the web-apps they have. but the native ones
are really nice when you can find them. And i think i rather like the
general OS navigation.

I think i will endeavor to be at the sammtich tonight and bring it along
for people to look at.

On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote:

 That's very cool, I've wondered how usability of ubuntu touch is
 progressing.  I'd love to put it on my old transformer infinity, maybe
 unity might actually be useful then.  Yes, needs apps...

 Re: Apps, They can do what makers of devices with less produced apps
 attempt, emulate android runtime for importing apps (ahem, windoze and
 blackberry), which has always been my vote for ubuntu touch (and linux).
 Not sure if use of dalvik to art changes things, but there never seemed to
 be any good ways short of running it in qemu or like vm for hardware level
 abstraction under linux.  And that was shoddy at best for me.

 There was the chrome hack for running android apps, but chrome hates amd
 video, and amd hates everyone to produce suitable linux drivers.  It never
 worked for me, thanks gpu.

 Anyone else know if there are better ways to run native apps under linux
 or touch these days?  Seems since the kernels aren't that different,
 emulation could be made to work enough for the runtimes natively, and
 apparently others have or are figuring it out in much more foreign waters
 (ew, windoze phone).

 -mb


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Re: Windows 10 – Microsoft’s Big Data-grabbing (or spying?) OS

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you get the choice of sharing with your friends. and it is specifically
your friends only that get that information. My concern is if i bring my
friend over and he is sharing his wifi ap information I do not get the
option of who he shares with, just if it is shared.

MS has said they are working on improving this feature due to concerns, but
for now _optout is the only option.

On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Bob Elzer bob.el...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well wifi-sense will share your wifi password. What gets me is microsoft
 is saving a database of all these passwords.

 They say you can add _optout to your wifi name and it will stop the
 sharing, but it could take up to two hours to do so.

 That means to me, that they ignore the optout, store your password and
 then dont give it out, but still keep it around.

 HOw the government would let this go on, is beyond me.

 is every business going to have to change their access point names ?

 First windows 10  phone to enter the pentagon, will send out all the
 passwords lmao.
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 ​While they are broad, these are all things you can turn on or off.​

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Re: Windows 10 – Microsoft’s Big Data-grabbing (or spying?) OS

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I do have to say, It has been nice to do a fresh install and have it sync
my wifi information and auto-magically connect. Android will do the same
thing. I am just annoyed by the lack of control on who shares my WIFI data.

On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 7:35 AM, Bob Elzer bob.el...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, you really don't  have a choice, even with optout it still gets sent.

 And why do I have to change my cool looking wifi name, just to prevent
 microsoft from spreading it.

 With every security person telling you to protect your passwords, why are
 there no lawyers suing MS for passing out our passwords like candy.

 I just keep shaking my head about this one.
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 your friends only that get that information. My concern is if i bring my
 friend over and he is sharing his wifi ap information I do not get the
 option of who he shares with, just if it is shared.

 MS has said they are working on improving this feature due to concerns,
 but for now _optout is the only option.

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 Well wifi-sense will share your wifi password. What gets me is microsoft
 is saving a database of all these passwords.

 They say you can add _optout to your wifi name and it will stop the
 sharing, but it could take up to two hours to do so.

 That means to me, that they ignore the optout, store your password and
 then dont give it out, but still keep it around.

 HOw the government would let this go on, is beyond me.

 is every business going to have to change their access point names ?

 First windows 10  phone to enter the pentagon, will send out all the
 passwords lmao.
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Re: Windows 10 – Microsoft’s Big Data-grabbing (or spying?) OS

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Still about MS covering their ass not the NSA. This just makes sure that
the NSA is the one that takes the heat and not them.

On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Lyle l.tut...@cox.net wrote:



 On 08/17/2015 09:27 AM, Stephen Partington wrote:

 The same is true of most social media networks when you join them. In
 some ways some of the EULA is written in ways to protect them while they
 handle data back and forth. W10 is trying to do allot of stuf for you
 and share data between devices.


 AND NSA


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 And that is good.  The article points out they are enabled by
 default and most will not turn them off.



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Re: My machine died two days before I hit the road.

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Something to consider is you can get a decent SSD for another 60 or so and
that machine will run like a champ. The only weirdness you may have is for
multiple displays.
On Aug 2, 2015 9:48 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:

 Bring over a System Rescue CD and a Lubuntu 15.04 live CD to make sure
 it works (no HD, after all). You can look at /proc/* and lshw to verify
 that what he says is in there is in there. You can look
 at /proc/cpuinfo to verify that it has hardware virtualization. If it
 works with System Rescue CD, and it is substantially as described
 including the CPU having hardware virtualization, do the following:

 * Do NOT grind him on price. He might change his mind.

 * Whip out $60 cash, get a receipt.

 * Drive 4 blocks away, where he can't see or hear you.

 * Get out of the car, do a victory dance.

 * Order a fifty buck SATA hard disk from Newegg when you get home.
   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339.
   Because you're moving, have it go to someone you trust to keep it
   safe. DO NOT have it go to the address you're moving out of or the
   address you're moving to. It will be gone.

 * Install the hard drive, install Linux, have fun.

 * For extra credit, you might want to install 16GB RAM on there and
   turn it into a monster VM machine. Take it from me, VMs, not metal,
   are where you want to do your experimentation.

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  Yep
  On Aug 2, 2015 8:07 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   the price is good even without the hard drive?
  
   On 8/2/15, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
even without the hard drive?
   
On 8/2/15, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:
For 60 it's fine. It will run Linux very well once you wrangle
the AMD drivers. That will be a touch special.
On Aug 2, 2015 4:27 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com
wrote:
   
I'm in Florida now and I have a University professor offering
me a computer for 60 dollars. He built it himself around 2010
and he gives the specs (below). I wish I didn't have to ask but
does it sound like a good deal?
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---  Case: Antec 300
   
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
   
---  Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
   
 http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3138#ov
   
---  CPU:  AMD Athlon II X4 620 95W AM3 2MB Cache 2.6 GHz
   
   http://www.amazon.com/AMD-Athlon-620-2600MHz-Retail/dp/B002MAPTFW
   
--- RAM:  Mushkin Blackline 996587B (2x2GB)  total 4GB
   
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146731
   
--- Video:  Sapphire Radeon HD 4850 1GB GDDR3  PCI-E,
HDMI,DVI-I,VGA.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102837
   
--- Power supply: Antec SP-500, 500 watt PSU
   
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Re: $89 computer

[Stephen Partington]

But they are based on an Ubuntu core so that will have an effect.
On Aug 3, 2015 1:23 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mint is NOT ubuntu.

 On 8/3/15, Kevin Fries ke...@fries-biro.com wrote:
  I thought about trying Mint, but Ubuntu makes some horrible design
  choices.  Went to Arch, and have never looked back.  If it isn't in
 pacman,
  AUR almost always has it, and if the packager does something silly (for a
  while, VIM did not have python support, so you couldn't use NERDTree!), I
  can always use ABC to fix it... if only Ubuntu had a tool that would fix
  Upstart and Unity, ha ha.
 
  Kevin F
  On Aug 3, 2015 1:43 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  yeah... mint is the only thing i run.
 
  On 8/3/15, Keith Smith techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote:
  
   Put Mint 17 on it.  I think Mint 17 is based on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
  
   I'm running Mint 17 KDE and here is what my version file(s) say:
  
  
 cat /etc/*-release
   DISTRIB_ID=LinuxMint
   DISTRIB_RELEASE=17
   DISTRIB_CODENAME=qiana
   DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION=Linux Mint 17 Qiana
   NAME=Ubuntu
   VERSION=14.04, Trusty Tahr
   ID=ubuntu
   ID_LIKE=debian
   PRETTY_NAME=Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
   VERSION_ID=14.04
   HOME_URL=http://www.ubuntu.com/;
   SUPPORT_URL=http://help.ubuntu.com/;
   BUG_REPORT_URL=http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/;
   cat: /etc/upstream-release: Is a directory
  
  
  
  
  
   On 2015-08-03 08:13, Michael Havens wrote:
  
 
 http://symplepc.com/blogs/news/16853255-symple-introduces-the-89-planet-friendly-ubuntu-linux-web-workstation.html
   I wish we could get something other than Ubuntu  pre-installed!
  
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Re: $89 computer

[Stephen Partington]

You can get a Debian core Mint now as well (on version 2 based on Debian
Jessie.)
On Aug 3, 2015 1:16 PM, Kevin Fries ke...@fries-biro.com wrote:

 I thought about trying Mint, but Ubuntu makes some horrible design
 choices.  Went to Arch, and have never looked back.  If it isn't in pacman,
 AUR almost always has it, and if the packager does something silly (for a
 while, VIM did not have python support, so you couldn't use NERDTree!), I
 can always use ABC to fix it... if only Ubuntu had a tool that would fix
 Upstart and Unity, ha ha.

 Kevin F
 On Aug 3, 2015 1:43 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 yeah... mint is the only thing i run.

 On 8/3/15, Keith Smith techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote:
 
  Put Mint 17 on it.  I think Mint 17 is based on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
 
  I'm running Mint 17 KDE and here is what my version file(s) say:
 
 
cat /etc/*-release
  DISTRIB_ID=LinuxMint
  DISTRIB_RELEASE=17
  DISTRIB_CODENAME=qiana
  DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION=Linux Mint 17 Qiana
  NAME=Ubuntu
  VERSION=14.04, Trusty Tahr
  ID=ubuntu
  ID_LIKE=debian
  PRETTY_NAME=Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
  VERSION_ID=14.04
  HOME_URL=http://www.ubuntu.com/;
  SUPPORT_URL=http://help.ubuntu.com/;
  BUG_REPORT_URL=http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/;
  cat: /etc/upstream-release: Is a directory
 
 
 
 
 
  On 2015-08-03 08:13, Michael Havens wrote:
 
 http://symplepc.com/blogs/news/16853255-symple-introduces-the-89-planet-friendly-ubuntu-linux-web-workstation.html
  I wish we could get something other than Ubuntu  pre-installed!
 
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Re: in need of a computer

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Once you jump hoops they generally are pretty good about moving you along
ASAP.

its better for their AHT.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 8:41 PM, coverturtle covertur...@gmail.com wrote:

 Call your ISP.  They'll tell you to power cycle the modem and the computer
 but you tried that and it didn't work, Right?  Get them to help.


 On 08/08/2015 09:50 AM, Michael Havens wrote:

 hey, I just wired a computer to a router and no internet. I thought
 that maybe it was the rj-45  and when I put a new end on and plugged
 it in the info window appeared saying, 'You are now connected.' After
 internet still didn't work I unplugged it again and the info window
 said, 'You are now disconnected from the internet'. The router lights
 up when I plug it in and the lights on the NIC flash (so the two
 devices are communicating). Is there a hardware firewall I need to be
 aware of or something like that? This is when I was running a Live
 Linux distro. When I was logged in to windows7 it said something about
 the DNS after I clicked the troubleshooting. When I was on the Linux
 side 'connection information' said that the DNS was the router
 (192.168.0.1) and 205.171.3.25 . When I attempted to go to the 205
 ip it appears to be no longer a valid address; however, the other
 device connected to the router is working just fine. Any ideas as to
 what is wrong?

 On 8/7/15, Manuel E. Bermudez man...@cise.ufl.edu wrote:

 Hey.  Just woke up.  Come on over whenever you're ready.
 On Aug 7, 2015 8:22 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you so much! I went out and got it and after tax it cost around
 $45. Give me a call when you want me to come out and do it, I an
 meeting someone at 2:30 so no later than noon. I would really much
 prefer it to be 9 but I think you said you are asleep until 11.

 On 8/6/15, Manuel E. Bermudez man...@cise.ufl.edu wrote:

 Hey,  I'll be happy to buy you the pull string.
 On Aug 6, 2015 10:31 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am so sorry. Something unusual is happening this weekend. I'm
 going to be occupied. I could do it tomorrow morning. I have a request
 that you buy me a bucket of pull string.



 http://www.lowes.com/pd_473019-295-PL6500___?productId=50111388pl=1Ntt=cable+pull+string

 I know I said I would do it for free but I just realized I needed this
 and I can't afford it right now.

 On 8/6/15, Manuel E. Bermudez man...@cise.ufl.edu wrote:

 Hey.  Sure, I'd be happy to, but did you know you can burn it under
 Windows ?Just download the ISO file from the Ubuntu site you

 mentioned,

 and double click it.  Windows will give the option of burning it,
 even
 if
 what you're burning is for another operating system.

 Still, I'll be happy to do it for you.   Just bring a  CD, or DVD,
 or
 whatever's needed.

 I think I'll take you up on your generous offer to run the Cat 5E

 cable

 through
 my house.   I found a laptop to do the job today, much sooner
 than I thought.   I imagine you'd want to do it in the morning,
 before
 it
 gets
 too hot.  Would tomorrow or Saturday be too soon ?I'm dying to
 see
 my
 rig fully set up.

 Cheers,

 -
 Manuel E. Bermudez, Ph.D., Associate Professor
 Latin America and Caribbean Outreach CoordinatorComputer and
 Information Science and Engineering




 On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 8:43 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I hate to bug you because you have been so helpful but if you could
 help me again I would be oh so grateful. Could you burn a disk for

 me?

 It is here:
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
 if you need a cd-r/w let me know.


 On 8/5/15, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm going to need to run an ethernet cable to it though! it
 doesn't
 haVE THE DRIVER for the wireless dongle!

 On 8/5/15, Manuel E. Bermudez man...@cise.ufl.edu wrote:

 Great !  Enjoy.
 On Aug 5, 2015 10:36 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com

 wrote:

 yeah buddy. that was the problem. Thanks!

 On 8/5/15, Manuel E. Bermudez man...@cise.ufl.edu wrote:

 Hey.  One thing occurs to me, and I really hope this is it:

 make sure you're connecting the monitor to the VGA connector
 on

 the

 video card, not the VGA connector on the motherboard.

 Please let me know.



 Cheers,

 -
 Manuel E. Bermudez, Ph.D., Associate Professor
 Latin America and Caribbean Outreach CoordinatorComputer and
 Information Science and Engineering





 On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Michael Havens
 bmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I don't know what is wrong. I plug the monitor in an turn on
 the
 computer and I get the windows chimes but the monitor
 doesn't

 come

 up.
 Do you think the power surge finally took the monitor out
 too?

 Why

 did
 it happen over a month later? Perhaps the VGA cable got

 damaged

 in

 the
 move.

 The computer is a Dimension C521

 I left you a voice mail about this but I'll mention it here
 too:

 Let's ask the LUG members to donate old hardware for our
 computer-donation idea. I live in a two 

Re: did I screws up router?

[Stephen Partington]

Power surge can affect the Modem and router just as easily as any other
electrical device. So you may need to fully powercycle the modem and router
(power both off, power on modem first and fully then router on) and see if
that resets you.

but much like a previous thread you may have to reset your router or even
see if it is damaged.

On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 well, I was  on the pi doing something when there was another power surge.
 This time nothing seemed to be amiss but now I can't open the ip address of
 the router. the media center won't connect to the internet (as said before)
 and so I did a reset  of the router which cleared the password I saved in
 it so I need to reset the password so the pi will work wirelessly gosh,
 maybe I did that before  and that is why it won't connect. Regardless, why
 can't I get into the ip address?

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Re: Samba Connecting, cannot transfer files

[Stephen Partington]

Also make sure that your network is set in such a way that you can ping and
see your VM. ( i have wanted to put my head into the wall because i let
virtualbox put a VM on nat that i was expecting to be bridged.

On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Todd Millecam tyg...@gmail.com wrote:

 If I remember right, samba doesn't follow regular *nix permissions.
 Try running the command:
 smbadduser

 to get your user name and password in.  Use those credentials when you
 login to transfer files and see if it works.

 On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Keith Smith techli...@phpcoderusa.com
 wrote:



 Hi,

 I am running Mint 17 KDE.  I've uploaded Virtualbox and created a vm
 using CentOS 6.6.  On the CentOS 6.6 VM I installed Samba.

 I created a user on the VM and created the same user as a Samba user.
 I created a directory off root : /work
 smb and nmb are both running.
 in the /etc/samba/smb.conf I:
 1) set the workgroup - I do not think this is necessary since I am
 connection from Linux.
 2) commented out all the cups references
 3) added the following lines:

   - path = /work
   - writable = yes
   - browseable = yes
   - read only = no

 SELinux is disables
 IPTables is disabled


 I have the exact same config on a laptop running CentOS 6.6 and it works
 fine.  Only difference is the laptop mounts and connects to Samba from the
 fstab.

 To connect to the Samba share on the VM I issue the following command
 from my desktop's command line:

 sudo mount -t cifs -o user='username' //192.168.20.51/work/
 /mnt/centos6(command line on my desktop)

 It mounts and I can view the /work directory in Dolphin on the the parent
 (mint 17 KDE desktop).

 I cannot upload files though.

 To test I : chmod -R 777 /work   which did not help.

 I checked the Samba logs and they contain almost nothing - no errors are
 being logged.

 I've scoured the internet and am finding no solution.


 Tied:

 create mask = 0755
 create mode = 0660
 directory mode = 0770
 force create mode = 0660
 force directory mode = 0770
 force user = keith
 force group = keith

 which did not make a difference.


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Re: Samba Connecting, cannot transfer files

[Stephen Partington]

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/samba-smbpasswd-file-missing-750367/



On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Keith Smith techli...@phpcoderusa.com
wrote:


 Thanks!!  I added the Samba user as one of the first steps.  My smb.config
 shows passdb backend = tdbsam.  I cannot find the tdbsam file.  What am I
 missing?







 On 2015-07-26 09:56, Todd Millecam wrote:

 If I remember right, samba doesn't follow regular *nix permissions.
 Try running the command:
 smbadduser

 to get your user name and password in.  Use those credentials when you
 login to transfer files and see if it works.

 On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Keith Smith
 techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote:

  Hi,

 I am running Mint 17 KDE. I've uploaded Virtualbox and created a
 vm using CentOS 6.6. On the CentOS 6.6 VM I installed Samba.

 I created a user on the VM and created the same user as a Samba
 user.
 I created a directory off root : /work
 smb and nmb are both running.
 in the /etc/samba/smb.conf I:
 1) set the workgroup - I do not think this is necessary since I am
 connection from Linux.
 2) commented out all the cups references
 3) added the following lines:

 - path = /work
 - writable = yes
 - browseable = yes
 - read only = no

 SELinux is disables
 IPTables is disabled

 I have the exact same config on a laptop running CentOS 6.6 and it
 works fine. Only difference is the laptop mounts and connects to
 Samba from the fstab.

 To connect to the Samba share on the VM I issue the following
 command from my desktop's command line:

 sudo mount -t cifs -o user='username' //192.168.20.51/work/ [1]

 /mnt/centos6 (command line on my desktop)

 It mounts and I can view the /work directory in Dolphin on the the
 parent (mint 17 KDE desktop).

 I cannot upload files though.

 To test I : chmod -R 777 /work which did not help.

 I checked the Samba logs and they contain almost nothing - no
 errors are being logged.

 I've scoured the internet and am finding no solution.

 Tied:

 create mask = 0755
 create mode = 0660
 directory mode = 0770
 force create mode = 0660
 force directory mode = 0770
 force user = keith
 force group = keith

 which did not make a difference.

 Any ideas are much appreciated.

 Thanks!!
 Keith

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KDE enters the mobile development space

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http://itsfoss.com/kde-announces-plasma-mobile

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Re: KDE enters the mobile development space

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Windows 10 desktop environment is i think the best it has been. Not saying
it does not have issues. But it is a good environment to work in.

My weirdness is the lack of control over updates. But it is pretty nice.
On Jul 26, 2015 3:41 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote:

 I've been waiting years for KDE to throw their hat into mobile.  They've
 been talking about their plans for years and from what they have described,
 it makes a lot more sense to have shared programs and widgets that can be
 used across all environments but to have your phones interface act like a
 phone and your desktop act like a desktop but to have them all feel
 similar.
 That makes a lot more sense than a single interface to spread across all
 devices.  That just seems to me that the very best you can come up with is
 something that will be described as on avarage as not completely horrible
 across all devices.  That doesn't sound very good to me (I'm talking to you
 Windows and Ubuntu). :)

 Brian Cluff

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 http://itsfoss.com/kde-announces-plasma-mobile

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Re: KDE enters the mobile development space

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Agreed, they actually listened to feedback this time.

On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com wrote:

 I haven't used windows 10, but I had windows 8 more in mind when I wrote
 that.

 I would say that Windows 10 is direct evidence that MS has figured out
 that having the same interface across all devices doesn't work very well.

 Brian Cluff

 On 07/26/2015 03:45 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:

 Windows 10 desktop environment is i think the best it has been. Not
 saying it does not have issues. But it is a good environment to work in.

 My weirdness is the lack of control over updates. But it is pretty nice.

 On Jul 26, 2015 3:41 PM, Brian Cluff br...@snaptek.com
 mailto:br...@snaptek.com wrote:

 I've been waiting years for KDE to throw their hat into mobile.
 They've been talking about their plans for years and from what they
 have described, it makes a lot more sense to have shared programs
 and widgets that can be used across all environments but to have
 your phones interface act like a phone and your desktop act like a
 desktop but to have them all feel similar.
 That makes a lot more sense than a single interface to spread across
 all devices.  That just seems to me that the very best you can come
 up with is something that will be described as on avarage as not
 completely horrible across all devices.  That doesn't sound very
 good to me (I'm talking to you Windows and Ubuntu). :)

 Brian Cluff

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 http://itsfoss.com/kde-announces-plasma-mobile

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Juniper and Caononical networking

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Saw this post wander by, and was wondering what some of your takes would be.

I for one am a huge supporter in the idea of opensource networking
infrastructure. but also the idea of a network that is even more modular...

=

World waves 'goodbye' to CISCO!

With new generation of Debian/UBUNTU GNU/Linux switches, coming with full
sources for ‪#‎SDN‬
https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/sdn?source=feed_textstory_id=10203152126003649
(Software
Defined Networking).

After ‪#‎Snowden‬
https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/snowden?source=feed_textstory_id=10203152126003649
/ ‪#‎NSA‬
https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/nsa?source=feed_textstory_id=10203152126003649
revelations
nobody in the world is buying U.S. closed software/hardware any longer.

Large parts of Linux now run on ultra fast, freely programmable ASICs,
being able to completely replace CISCO greenware.

But not only that. You now can run your UBUNTU Snappy containers directly
on your switches. No more dedicated servers. Oops?

Wave 'goodbye' to John Chambers at Levi’s Stadium on July 27 with some
handful of ‪#‎Cisco‬
https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/cisco?source=feed_textstory_id=10203152126003649
employees,
that are left over: ‪#‎CiscoRocks‬
https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/ciscorocks?source=feed_textstory_id=10203152126003649
 and‪#‎WeAreCisco‬
https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/wearecisco?source=feed_textstory_id=10203152126003649
.

https://insights.ubuntu.com/…/worlds-first-25100-gigabit-o…/
https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/06/18/worlds-first-25100-gigabit-open-ethernet-based-switch-launches/

https://insights.ubuntu.com/…/iot-world-snappy-for-whitebo…/
https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/05/13/iot-world-snappy-for-whitebox-switches/

https://insights.ubuntu.com/…/lxd-crushes-kvm-in-density-a…/
https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/05/18/lxd-crushes-kvm-in-density-and-speed/

https://insights.ubuntu.com/…/the-power-of-software-define…/
https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Finsights.ubuntu.com%2F2015%2F04%2F08%2Fthe-power-of-software-defined-networking-appliances-sdna%2Fh=mAQFMThAyAQGLjmP6UTRpWw_YlvhH6Q-KBGUed1RRSEAXgwenc=AZMuPvIw_Hye0sWpIds18MkF4MCedQ7ALMtyvBLBnqJam_8g2HRSixsDis2YBQmL-FpqqsZS0UAyD8261SfVls26gBU4GhhiRpM3V9vc1J5-BfnFSEoUwEVDeIeIsnAtrs_j1gUW4CHiW3b-cr2OP4zSsfFXB7V-r-hcJA2CZwt1oeQCokI60vPL-w9ICluoS4gs=1

https://insights.ubuntu.com/…/juju-for-telcos-and-service-…/
https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Finsights.ubuntu.com%2F2015%2F07%2F01%2Fjuju-for-telcos-and-service-providers-pt-1-2%2Fh=hAQH4fSmGAQGHgaT6_nHiXaesz7tWpvCZeli3jwKhE8_ALAenc=AZOPRSCdIOH8TKworlVEJd4daQoj7O0OC4lBzrmX8WJmHJTWpkKLocYQVvgchsK7z4Y-wHkxAdySwz7ntOOXEba_2JAi6M0H-CNLp930lYJvR5YEszrYtwtDMIUBJzJk7HaDJWS2lYNwNfAGq4Q09Wro272ELQijVTh13YHx6z1UQr9p1B8vy9CzZOocoI1pTSMs=1

https://insights.ubuntu.com/…/juniper-canonical-partner-on…/
https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Finsights.ubuntu.com%2F2015%2F02%2F26%2Fjuniper-canonical-partner-on-openstack-cloud-solutions-for-telcos%2Fh=5AQHcPpPeAQFb_xtgfuDJqVWaBN_Lz-aGnY8VbHtudGRfLAenc=AZNxSa0FMDFu19nbygu9CirNwkXSG1L5X6tA3hfmQwlCkqGUg1CWtHpf1kmmoDaFHdug0LY5F1jznSVTNF02TMv2iw9sjtoykRmBVzvXiFc5psCQvQfrbu50nOjfBRIBmpJ9UiD6fZKjbPHdfGro_fXGz_JKe-nfsHkmvRJOy-90hUQw53vuipSMBA3o9GL5rHYs=1

https://code.facebook.com/…/facebook-open-switching-system…/
https://code.facebook.com/posts/843620439027582/facebook-open-switching-system-fboss-and-wedge-in-the-open/




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LVM and raid

[Stephen Partington]

I am working on a home server running EFI. i have Ubuntu 15.04 installed
and am looking to find out if there is a way to migrate to raid on a
running system.

In theory i should be able to do this by creating a degraded portion of the
raid volume on the empty disk, extend/move my LVM to that disk then rebuild
the original disk as part of that raid volume.

I was wondering if anyone had some documentation of information i could
read about this scenario. Added complication so far seems to be that this
is a 2013 mac mini.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: O/T : Looking for an entry level LAMP developer for contract work.

[Stephen Partington]

For all of the weirdness in the Pearson hiring process the Hiring Manager
writes the requirements in full for any posting. Not HR or whomever.

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 6:46 AM, David Schwartz newslett...@thetoolwiz.com
wrote:

 The current process of matching resumes with job reqs passed from managers
 to HR to recruiters / web sites to developers and back is totally broken.

 We have hiring managers on one end who have been out of the loop for a
 while and don’t seem to understand a lot of the tech used by the people
 they manage.

 They write a job req and give it to HR.

 The HR people are handling job reqs for the entire company and tend to not
 be very well-versed in tech either. They “polish up” the ads a bit then
 post them online.

 Recruiters get hold of them and tweak them a bit.

 Then actual devs read them and cannot figure out why a job looking for a
 “programmer” requires 3+ years working with the entire Adobe Creative Suite
 including Photoshop and Fireworks, and why they say they’re building a CMS
 but there’s no requirement for any database experience.

 So someone perfectly suited for the job responds and gets rejected because
 they don’t have the requisite “design” expertise.

 Last week I saw a job req for a junior web developer that requires,
 “extensive experience with Adobe Creative Suite, php, perl, python, MySQL
 (including stored procs), database design and administration, Apache,
 TomCat, and HTML5/CSS3.

 There was a position on Dice looking for “a minimum of 5 years of
 demonstrable experience writing apps in Swift”.

 I got an email from a recruiter last week (a young woman who probably
 recently left a phone sales job with AmEx or Vanguard) who said, “I’ve got
 a requirement for someone with extensive C++ programming experience,
 including OOA and OOD. I don’t see a lot of people with OOA and OOD
 experience listed in their resume, so you probably have a really great shot
 at this position!” [never heard back]

 Job req stated: “Java experience helpful”.  Me: “What version of Java are
 they using?” Recruiter: “They just said Java. Does it matter what version?”

 Recruiter: “I see you have some php experience in your background. We have
 a web developer position that I think you’d be a great fit for.” Me: “Do
 they require any graphic arts or visual design experience?” Recruiter: “No,
 they don’t mention that.” Job req: “Requires: 5+ years Adobe Creative
 Suite, including Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Fireworks, etc.”

 Job req: “We’re looking for a seasoned senior devleoper with 10+ years of
 C++ expertise.” Recruiter: “They’re looking for someone with recent C++
 experience; you haven’t worked with it in several years.” Me: “What version
 of C++ are they using?” Recruiter: “It doesn’t say…” Next day: “I checked
 with the manager and he said they’re using C++99.” Me: “I worked with that
 version for quite a while.” Recruiter: “I’m sorry, they really want someone
 with recent experience.”

 HR: “We’re looking for someone with experience in Java, specifically
 lambdas and closures.” Me: “So you’re using Java 8?” HR: “No, this is for a
 Java 6 role. But you have to have experience with lambdas and closures. I
 don’t see that on your resume.” [Lambdas and closures are mostly new to
 Java 8, and not present in Java 6.]

 My question: How in the hell does anybody get hired ANYWHERE without flat
 out LYING about stuff on their resume?

 Everybody is hiring for experience with the latest tooks and buzzwords.
 Nobody cares that you’ve got 10+ years of OOA/OOD/OOP expertise if you
 cannot write code in the latest language du jour with your eyes closed.
 They prefer college kids with no depth of experience but one semester of
 some language over senior people with tons of experience and nothing as
 current as the college kid has. And from what I can tell, I could spend the
 next two years working with everything under the sun on my own, and nobody
 will give a rip because I have no “on the job experience” with any of it.

 It’s really messed up. When I go to job fairs there are mostly foreigners
 and older folks. And recruiters basically admitting that nobody is hiring
 into junior roles to learn new stuff except college grads. Everybody says
 they want to hire someone who can “hit the ground running”, which makes no
 sense to me because I’ve never had a job where I didn’t have to spend
 several weeks (if not months) learning their software apps first (mostly by
 reading the code b/c they don’t like their devs wasting time writing
 documentation).

 -David



  On Jul 22, 2015, at 10:40 PM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote:
 
  Am 22. Jul, 2015 schwätzte Nathan England so:
 
  moin moin,
 
  The company I currently work for has 3 developer position openings and
 in 4 months we've had only two candidates apply. That seems to me a real
 need for developers. Either that or the job description is too complicated
 for them to get past.
 
  ( None of this is pointing at any specific person or 

Re: O/T : Looking for an entry level LAMP developer for contract work.

[Stephen Partington]

The amount of Truth in this is daunting.

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:40 PM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote:

 Am 22. Jul, 2015 schwätzte Nathan England so:

 moin moin,

  The company I currently work for has 3 developer position openings and in
 4 months we've had only two candidates apply. That seems to me a real need
 for developers. Either that or the job description is too complicated for
 them to get past.


 ( None of this is pointing at any specific person or company, it just
 seems like the best place in the thread to mention it. )

 There's an open secret about tech unemployment, it's been really low for
 years, even when general unemployment was really high.

 Due to this apparently being a secret, we get job descriptions that list
 every technology someone can cut and paste from Internet search results.

 But, since tech unemployment is actually low, it's hard to find candidates.

 In tech we're also usually looking for specialists. Do welding companies
 ask for someone expert in one particular welder? Are there dozens of
 brands of welders to choose from such that skills ( from the viewpoint of
 HR ) don't transfer to another brand of welder? Sorry, you only know java
 welders...

 So, we have a lack of candidates because people have jobs and don't
 need to look around and also because job descriptions are searching for
 unrealistic lists of skills while simultaneously focusing on narrow
 fields.

 Then, when candidates do appear, many get overlooked due to the narrow
 field view or lack of buzzwork bingo on their resumes. The habitually
 unemployed or new to the field seem are really up against heavy odds, even
 in the low unemployment state we've been in for years.

 Even an expert will have a learning curve to learn how your environment
 does it. The example I like to give is that if you hire Larry Wall to join
 your Perl team ( or Guido von Rossum for Python or Rasmus Lerdorf for
 PHP... ), he will need time to learn how your team works. Granted, if he
 then makes suggestions your team should probably listen intently :).

 For entry and junior level positions, look for candidates that are good at
 technology and learning, then give them room to grow into the specific
 position. You need that anyway because your environment *is* different.

 For senior positions, find those who know the field, then see if you think
 they can become the expert you need. The most likely reason we're looking
 is to do something new :).

 Also, please cross-train so when someone does leave the rest of the team
 isn't left with huge gaps in knowledge and experience!

 ciao,

 der.hans

  Nathan

 On 2015-07-22 10:45, Keith Smith wrote:

 Hi,

 I posted for an entry level LAMP developer a week or so ago figuring I
 would find a number of people wanting to break into LAMP development.
 What I received was a lackluster response.  I was offering $22/hr 1099
 with the potential to bill 40 hours a week.  I figured by the time
 that person pays for health insurance figured at $250/mo, pays he self
 employment tax, and takes some vacation time and holiday time off,
 this compensation would be about $18 an hour W2 or $36,000 a year.

 Here is the contract description:

 I am looking for an entry level LAMP developer.  Would like someone
 with entry level PHP skills and entry level Linux skills.  Stuff like
 the ability to add a user, add a sudo user, and configure vhosts on
 apache.  I will give directions with examples and they will be working
 on a development VPS so if they blow it we just spin up another.  As
 for PHP skills if this person knows how to write a MySql connection
 string and is able to insert, update, delete and list this person
 could be what I am looking for.  This is a maintenance job.   This
 person would need to know some HTML and CSS.  jQuery would be a plus.

 This contract could last as long as 2 or 3 years.  At that point we
 would need to either up the compensation or understand when this
 person takes off for other opportunities.

 Is the compensation fair?  Any ideas why I received such a lukewarm
 response?


 Your feedback is much appreciated.

 Keith

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Re: LVM and raid

[Stephen Partington]

A couple of things i have set up for. The initital install is on LVM
already so most of that was in place (including /) and i have no data on
this. so if it wrecked its only an install away to start over.

But this is a good start for some reading, thank you!

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Matt Graham mhgra...@crow202.org wrote:

 On 2015-07-21 13:28, Stephen Partington wrote:

 Ubuntu 15.04 installed and am looking to find out if there is a way
 to migrate to raid on a running system.

 In theory i should be able to do this by creating a degraded portion
 of the raid volume on the empty disk, extend/move my LVM to that disk
 then rebuild the original disk as part of that raid volume.


 This is a softRAID-1, right?  That makes the most sense for what you've
 said.

  I was wondering if anyone had some documentation of information i
 could read about this scenario.


 I did something like this when I moved my stuff from just 1 disk on
 regular partitions to softRAID-1.  First, back up all your junk, because
 there are multiple points in this where you could scribble all over your
 disks.  Second, make sure you have a LiveCD or LiveUSB disk to boot from if
 the bootloader goes wonky.
 https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Complete_Handbook/Software_RAID should be
 pretty applicable to working with softRAID and applicable to distros that
 are not Gentoo.

 You'd first take the new disk and partition it.  I would think you'd need
 at least 2 partitions since having /boot on LVM is not going to work, and
 possibly 3 because having / on LVM has more fiddly bits than having it on a
 regular partition.

 So, fdisk /dev/sdb , set it up with 2 or 3 partitions (whichever), and
 then set up the RAID.  This'll assume that your largest partition (the one
 that'll be your PV) is /dev/sdb2 .  You'd then do

 mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb2 missing

 This'll set up an array in degraded mode on /dev/md0.  You'd then pvcreate
 /dev/md0 , then vgextend $VG_NAME /dev/md0 , then pvmove
 /dev/$OLD_PV_LOCATION .  Then vgreduce $VG_NAME /dev/$OLD_PV_LOCATION  and
 pvremove /dev/$OLD_PV_LOCATION to remove the old PV from lvm's config.
 Then you'd add the old PV back to the md0 with mdadm /dev/md0 --add
 /dev/$OLD_PV_LOCATION .  The disk sync will probably take a while.

 You'll have to set things up so that the bootloader can figure everything
 out.  Are you going to put / on LVM?  That requires that the initrd have
 all the LVM tools on it.  I don't know if Ubuntu can handle that
 automatically or not--I would guess so, but ICBW.

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Re: Fedora 22 issues

[Stephen Partington]

If the various caches are getting cleared this will cause an issue. If you
have any scripts or settings that will clear this you will see this sort of
behavior.

Note, you can set up last pass separately on each browser (2 accounts).

what is clearing this i am not sure.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Nathan England nat...@nmecs.com wrote:


 I've been running Fedora 22 since it came out and have been very happy
 except a couple issues.

 * Firefox wants me to login to sync everytime I close the browser and open
 it again. It says there is a problem syncing. However, once I give it my
 password again it syncs fine and continues to work until I close the
 browser (all instances). Then when I open it again it all starts over.

 * Similarly Chrome has an issue remember passwords. It seems while it is
 open it remembers my passwords and all works well, but initially when I
 open it I have to log in to several places as if it does not remember my
 passwords.

 I am not using LastPass. I like the default password managers for both
 browsers. I use them for separate things and I do not want unified
 passwords between the two.

 Does F22 have a temp problem? I really get the impression that much of my
 browser data is being stored in tmp space and is lost when I reboot, which
 is daily because Grid Autosport doesn't work in Linux... ;-)

 I cannot find any references to this in Google as all searches with
 Firefox and sync return lots of people having problems, but not my problem.
 These issues are common across several machines I have and each has been
 wiped/installed multiple times.

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Re: cox vs centurylink

[Stephen Partington]

Yes, in my days of dialup i had 2 lines. one with the features we wanted,
(caller ID, long distance etc) and one line that was stripped bare for just
dialup access. The dialup line kept getting features added to it every time
i would call for support or to pay my bill.

That left a pretty lasting impression.


On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 11:14 AM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote:

 Am 17. Jul, 2015 schwätzte Stephen Partington so:

 moin moin Stephen,

  I am curious about the difference as well. I have been running Cox
 services
 for quite some time as us west was horrible about random new features
 being


 Random new features?

 ciao,

 der.hans


  added without any consent. This likely has changed but Cox really has
 provided good service until recently. I am trying to decide if I want to
 move service or buy a new cable modem (would improve service as i cannot
 get full speed on my current modem)
 On Jul 17, 2015 12:17 AM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote:

  moin moin,

 it would be a pay-per-view grudge match :).

 Anyway, time to reconsider ISPs. Those are the two wired options
 available. No charter in my neighborhood and I have been told by many,
 many people to be thankful of that.

 Anyway, my requirements are to have all ports open, static IPs and decent
 upstream bandwidth.

 Cox residential is out because they block ports 25 and 80.

 Cox business allows all ports, offers static IPs and has decent bandwidth
 in both directions.

 CenturyLink wants to hide all the information about its services. I did
 finally find some information including further contradictory
 information,
 so I'm confused about what they offer. I have little confidence in their
 sales support knowing.

 CenturyLink partners with m$ for services I don't care about ( hosted
 mail
 and web ).

 It looks like CenturyLink is prepping to compete with Google fiber, but
 not holding my breath for that service or the competitive response from
 the incumbants.

 Then again, CenturyLink's site is dedicated to bundling with little
 information for what you actually get in the bundles.

 Any feedback on experience with Qwest/CenturyLink?

 ciao,

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Re: cox vs centurylink

[Stephen Partington]

that is correct.

I really look forward to the shake up that will happen with Google fiber...

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 11:21 AM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote:

 Am 17. Jul, 2015 schwätzte Stephen Partington so:

 moin moin Stephen,

  Well i have to say in my area Century Link is a horrible amount of fail.
 20mb max residential and business is up to 40mb but with only 2mb upload
 for almost 200 a month.


 Wow! The site lists 40MB for less than $40/month for residential. It looks
 like that jumps to $150/mo for commercial.

 Both seem to have the same rules, but as I pointed out in the original
 post, their documentation on what is included in the service is
 non-existent or non-transparent.

 ciao,

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Re: backup software?

[Stephen Partington]

That's a huge failure in my book.
On Jul 19, 2015 12:35 PM, Matt Graham mhgra...@crow202.org wrote:

 On 2015-07-17 12:38, Stephen Partington wrote:

 rsbackup is another one i thought was pretty slick.


 The idea's good.  I installed it and tried it out, and may keep using it
 in the future.  Its refusal to back up a volume more than once a day is a
 pretty glaring wart though.  I had to grab the SQLite DB and delete the row
 for today's backup before it'd let me back up the volume again.

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Re: tablet

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​the surface pro are pretty swanky
​

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wrote:

 How about a MS Surface Pro - core i7? You can wipe Windows and install
 Linux. Very portable. But expensive.

 Mark

 On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Stephen Partington cryptwo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 This is an idea.
 http://linuxgizmos.com/tablet-runs-ubuntu-touch-on-intel-core-m/

 Also I would suggest the nexus tablets. You can even install ubuntu touch
 on them. (in addition to being a good device)
 On Jul 19, 2015 3:01 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey guys,
 My laptop crapped out. I have decided that since I rarely use the laptop
 that I will opt to get a tablet. What do you recommend I get?

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Re: tablet

[Stephen Partington]

This is an idea.
http://linuxgizmos.com/tablet-runs-ubuntu-touch-on-intel-core-m/

Also I would suggest the nexus tablets. You can even install ubuntu touch
on them. (in addition to being a good device)
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 My laptop crapped out. I have decided that since I rarely use the laptop
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Re: tablet

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any windows pro tablet should also be able to run full windows applications.


On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I figured that out a couple of hours after I thought of going with a
 tablet instead of a llaptop.

 On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 7:08 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 no tablet. I need a laptop with a windows os so I can update my tomtom
 gps unit.

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 This is an idea.
 http://linuxgizmos.com/tablet-runs-ubuntu-touch-on-intel-core-m/

 Also I would suggest the nexus tablets. You can even install ubuntu
 touch on them. (in addition to being a good device)
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Fwd: Linux Administrator Opportunity in Chandler

[Stephen Partington]

Just in case any of you would be interested.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Casas, Michael (00210) michael.ca...@rht.com
Date: Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 9:57 AM
Subject: Linux Administrator Opportunity in Chandler
To: Casas, Michael (00210) michael.ca...@rht.com


Good Morning,



My client in Chandler is in need of a Linux Administrator who has 7+  years
of experience as a Linux Administrator and has strong experience with
VMware virtualizing the servers.  This opportunity is a 6 month contract
that has the option to be renewed twice, for a total of 18 months on the
project.  The client is flexible with pay at this point.



This is going to also be an on call position.  The ideal candidate will
have leadership experience as well.



If you know anyone who may be interested in this opportunity, please
contact me ASAP.  If you are interested in this opportunity, please forward
me your updated resume and I can have the client review your qualifications
immediately!



Thank you for your time and I hope to hear from you soon.




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Re: When Linux provides so many high-quality operating systems of many varieties free of...? - Quora

[Stephen Partington]

I love my high end current hardware with Linux. :-D

On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> why in the world would anyone buy new equipment if they use Linux? (not
> counting laptops used laptops suck! Though I did put Linux on an xp
> laptop for a lady I knew when i lived in Cottonwood)
>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 7:58 PM, Keith Smith 
> wrote:
>
>> Most of what you talk about is outside the scope of a data center.
>>
>> On 2015-10-25 15:42, Eric Oyen wrote:
>>
>>> time may be money, but sometimes its worth it to have alternatives.
>>>
>>
>> I like alternatives.  I run Mint on my desktop.  I've been fortunate
>> enough that it just worked so it was cost effective.  I like buying
>> discounted hardware and putting Linux on it.  I would have difficulty
>> leaving home with a Mac that might cost $2k or more yikes.
>>
>> Still time is money.  All things being equal, a top end programmer might
>> make $40 - $60 plus per hour W2 plus benefits.  Is it cost effective to
>> have that person or someone else compile a driver for their hardware?
>> Probably not unless they have a very specific need. They need something
>> that gets them to work as fast as possible.  I think that was the one of
>> the points of the article.
>>
>> I used Windows for years, even though I have never been a fan of M$.  Why
>> because it did the job.  Until several years ago I did not like Linux on my
>> desktop, even though I tried to go M$ free on two prior occasions dating
>> back to 2000.
>>
>> I think what you are describing is a business niche or someone with Linux
>> admin skills messing with their own hardware.
>>
>>
>> Sure, on a mac everything "just works" (well, mostly). The issue here
>>> is that all IT personnel need to know how to deal with any OS on their
>>> network, including being able to edit and compile drivers for
>>> specialized hardware. I have an old mac here (its a series 2007
>>> vintage white book) and I managed to get linux working on it. The key
>>> is finding the correct drivers. If one doesn't exist, but is close to
>>> another in the same chipset, it isn't that hard to modify it to work
>>> (or, it may just work anyway). The kicker is getting the source info
>>> from the manufacturer (in the case of apple, its Intel). SOmetimes
>>> they are helpful and sometimes they aren't .
>>>
>>> -eric
>>>
>>> On Oct 25, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Keith Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>

 "Linux is only free if your time is worthless." - A guy that owns a
 data center told me he buys Mac because he does not have the time to fix
 driver issues etc.  Time is money!!




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Re: LinuxMint Question

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Dont forget that there are options for live cd's so he can try both and see
which he likes the most.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:41 AM, Phil Waclawski 
wrote:

> Well, if he's never used Linux before, one of the desktop friendly distros
> (Mint, Ubuntu, Kubuntu) is definitely where to start, but the big help
> would be someone helping with the initial setup. Find out what they want.
> Show them how to find and install software, how to set up basic internet
> connections and so on.
>
> That may be of more use than the particular distro (so long as you pick a
> desktop friendly one. ;)
>
> Phil W
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:22 AM, Nathan England  wrote:
>
>>
>> My Pastor told me tonight he's had enough of Windows and wants to go to
>> Linux.
>> I was impressed he even knew it existed, but that's beside the point. It
>> left me with a hard question...
>>
>> LinuxMint Cinnamon or LinuxMint Mate
>>
>> First impressions I like that Mate shows program descriptions (thinking
>> it might be easier for him to find things) and I can drag and drop
>> applications from the menu right to the desktop.
>>
>> But Cinnamon really looks nice and has the latest libraries.
>>
>> So my question is, which is better for a complete noob to linux?
>> He really is only interested in LibreOffice, Chrome and maybe Firefox.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: cheap ISP for low-bandwidth use?

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Cox is pretty much the best option in the metro valley.

35/mo for 5 up / 1 down. and they only close of port 80 and the various
smtp ports (but allow you to use their smart forwarders)

Century link is offering 20/mo for 10 down / something up (im guessing 2mb
or so) but i have no idea what they filter and block.

Google fiber is coming and everyone is now touting gigabit internet but
nobody is saying where it will be yet.

then there is T-mobile with one of their unlimited plans for 50/ month and
either 10mb/month or unlimited internet which you can tether to for 50-60.



On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Tom Roche  wrote:

>
> [Apologies if this is too off-topic: I'm a new user of this list.]
>
> For how cheap can one rent a reliable, Linux-compatible internet
> connection in the Valley? What I mean, why I ask:
>
> I was a longtime user of TWC/Roadrunner (data only--been TV-free for
> decades) for internet access at my previous home. ~2012 (IIRC) TWC raised
> their internet-only price to (IIRC) >60 $/mo. I raised both middle fingers
> and switched to FreedomPop's {$24, 10 GB}/mo Sprint-4G-based home service.
> FP
>
> * played well with my (now-aging, but all up-to-date Debian) laptops and
> WRT54GL router
>
> * was generally reliable (except during major thunderstorms).
> Particularly, it tolerated my then-employer's kludgey VPN (used for SSH-ing
> into compute/storage clusters).
>
> * was fast enough (though faster is always better :-)
>
> * gave just enough data (I don't game or stream much video) that I never
> went over-limit (which would have incurred fairly onerous charges).
>
> - had very bad customer service/support, which I was barely able to
> tolerate given the price delta with local competition.
>
> I recently relocated at roughly the same time as FP announced its home
> device (the FreedomPop Hub Burst) would EOS. This is not currently a
> problem--I'm sharing a roommate's ISP--but eventually I'll probably need to
> get my own connection. So I'd like to know what other folks (if anyone on
> this list is as cheap as I am :-) are doing for cheap internet access.
> Bridging off phones? Jumping from one yearly teaser rate to another?
> Something Completely Different?
>
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Re: When Linux provides so many high-quality operating systems of many varieties free of...? - Quora

[Stephen Partington]

I certainly was getting nervous until i found solaar to manipulate the
Logitech unifying devices.

Really the only thing i am having trouble with is getting Nvidia drivers to
work with this fool Macbook Pro.

On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> I don't know what their talking about I have NO problems with Linux.
> It is very stable and never crashes and never fails to start when I rarely
> shut it down. It might not play all the games but if you look in the
> repository there is doom and quake and others I've never heard of. I run
> Mint.
>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Steve Litt 
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 16:14:39 -0700
>> Mike Schwartz  wrote:
>>
>> > I am not saying that (or whether) I agree.
>> > This is just "FYI".
>> > ("Read or Toss"  -- !)
>> >
>> > The first item in this e-zine has a LINK to
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.quora.com/When-Linux-provides-so-many-high-quality-operating-systems-of-many-varieties-free-of-cost-why-do-people-still-buy-Mac-OS-and-Windows-OS
>>
>> Sounds like what we discussed a few days ago: It's all about use case.
>>
>> SteveT
>>
>> Steve Litt
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Re: Anyone install kubuntu on one of these?

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I have personally not done this. but there seems to be a group that does...

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2181460

http://expiredpopsicle.com/2015/10/09/Cintiq_Companion_2_Running_Linux.html



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wrote:

>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacom-Cintiq-Companion-512GB-Core-i7-8GB-RAM-13-3in-DTH-W1300H-/171986349111?hash=item280b2f6c37:g:0rQAAOSwo0JWNrAz
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>
> It looks very tempting, and some of the searches I've done have suggested
> that you can, but so far nothing definite.
>
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Re: Anyone install kubuntu on one of these?

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It the start of some research for sure.
On Nov 9, 2015 4:13 PM, "Phil Waclawski" <phil.waclaw...@mesacc.edu> wrote:

> Yes I found the same article. Told me all the wonderful things they did
> "after" they installed, but no details about 'how'.
>
> Not sure if it is worth taking a risk for that kind of money.
>
> Phil W
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Stephen Partington <cryptwo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I have personally not done this. but there seems to be a group that
>> does...
>>
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2181460
>>
>>
>> http://expiredpopsicle.com/2015/10/09/Cintiq_Companion_2_Running_Linux.html
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 11:12 PM, Phil Waclawski <
>> phil.waclaw...@mesacc.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacom-Cintiq-Companion-512GB-Core-i7-8GB-RAM-13-3in-DTH-W1300H-/171986349111?hash=item280b2f6c37:g:0rQAAOSwo0JWNrAz
>>>
>>>
>>> It looks very tempting, and some of the searches I've done have
>>> suggested that you can, but so far nothing definite.
>>>
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Re: POLICE WEB APPLICATION DEVELOPER

[Stephen Partington]

"Thanks for posting this Keith. I don't make it to the mailing list very
often any more.
Just as a reminder the position closes this Friday so please power the
application site to get your name in."

This may be part of why you might not have heard back...

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Shawn Badger  wrote:

> Thanks for posting this Keith. I don't make it to the mailing list very
> often any more.
> Just as a reminder the position closes this Friday so please power the
> application site to get your name in.
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Keith Smith 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Last night at the meeting several people said they were looking to hire.
>> One of the positions is with the Chandler police department.
>>
>> They need a PHP programmer to do WordPress programming.
>>
>> Looks to be a great opportunity.
>>
>> http://www.chandleraz.gov/default.aspx?pageid=97
>>
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Re: google maps

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you have to zoom out, and then choose earth at the bottom, then zoom out
again.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> I can't repeat the process. I think you need to have the pictures along
> the bottom of the window showing before you zoom out because the moon,
> mars, and earth appear in the pictures and you select one of them.
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
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>> if you zoom out as far as you can on google maps you can then look at
>> maps of the moon or of mars
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MacBook Pro Late 2010 and Ubuntu

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So i have been tinkering with this macbook, and Everything works right up
to the point i give it the Nvidia base driver (replacing Nouveau) at this
point the instant X comes up the whole thing just stops rendering video.

Kind of frustrating

So far this round this is the only hope i have found:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/264247/proprietary-nvidia-drivers-with-efi-on-mac-to-prevent-overheating

Does anyone have something more graceful?

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Re: i3/i5/i7 vs Intel Xeon

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nice lil pocket server for sure.

On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Keith Smith 
wrote:

>
> I don't know how I ended up on this page :
> http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/deals?~ck=mn#!dlpgid=poweredge-tower-server-deals
> Probably because I am always looking for deals.
>
> That is what prompted my question about i3/i5/i7 vs Intel Xeon.
>
> I was looking at the PowerEdge T110 II Tower Server which is selling for
> $369.00.  I was thinking it would be nice to upgrade this to 16GB and add a
> couple HD's to it (that I can get off new egg) and configure as RAID 1.
> Add a couple inexpensive video cards and potentially drive 4 flat screens.
> The CPU Intel Xeon E3-1230 v2 is smoken' hot!!  4 cores and 8 threads.  And
> the benchmark is plenty good.
> http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1230+V2+%40+3.30GHz
>
> This might only cost $1300 or $1400 for everything.
>
> Or use it to build a very nice web server.
>
>
>
>
> On 2015-10-09 21:58, Kevin Fries wrote:
>
>> I7 is quad core, Xeon can go to 18 core and have dual procs.  We are
>> currently considering Power Edge blades with 2x14 cores to build
>> private cloud.
>>
>> Kevin
>> On Oct 9, 2015 2:10 PM, "Keith Smith" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I was browsing Dell's PowerEdge servers and noticed they use the
>>> Intel Xeon. I was wondering what might be the advantage of a Intel
>>> Xeon vs. an i3/i5/i7 ?
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
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Re: Open Relay question

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google open relay test there are a number of ways to test. If you are
behind cox then you have to use a forward via one of their servers.

On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Keith Smith 
wrote:

>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> How can I verify my server is not an open relay which will allow others to
> send spam through my box?
>
> Ubuntu 14.04LTS
> Postfix+Dovecot
>
> Thanks in advance
>
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Re: ups

[Stephen Partington]

On a machine that old you would have a better and smoother experience just
converting it to a VM. There are some good tools to convert to KVM/Quemu
from raw disk.


On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 11:34 PM, Steve Litt 
wrote:

> LOL,
>
> Sitting right next to me, I have a 1997 Pentium II that's my Windows
> machine. I fire it up every couple months to do a little Micrografx
> Windows Draw. It uses my Linux desktop's data directories via Samba.
>
> SteveT
>
>
> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 00:54:09 -0400
> Michael Havens  wrote:
>
> > you have 12 year old computers?
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Keith Smith
> >  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I've been using isobar since about 1993.  I believe that is why I
> > > have not had any equipment failure.  13 or 14 years ago the
> > > transformer attached to where I was living exploded.  I was sure it
> > > cooked my computer.  Nothing happened to my computer.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8=isobar=googhydr-20=aps=84109345576=1t1==g=6200554956233029823===b=c=pd_sl_2hv0pgf2to_b_p2
> > >
> > > Of course it is not going to keep your computer running when the
> > > power goes out.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2015-10-11 16:11, Steve Litt wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 13:39:53 -0400
> > >> Michael Havens  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I finally broke down and bought a UPS:( I got a 650 VA for $57. The
> > >>> 550 VA was $55 so I figured it was worth the 2 extra dollars. Now
> > >>> I don't have to worry about frying my computer during one of the
> > >>> many lightening storms here in gainesville!
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >> That's a great price!
> > >>
> > >> The benefit of a UPS isn't preventing frying in a lightning storm.
> > >> A simple surge protector does a better job of that. A UPS prevents
> > >> your computer frying during a brownout or severel rapid
> > >> transitions between power and no power. It also gives you a
> > >> reasonable timeframe to perform an orderly shutdown, and in cases
> > >> of > 1minute power outages, which describes over half of our power
> > >> outages here in Seminole County Florida, you just keep computing.
> > >>
> > >> Another great thing about a UPS is when your printer starts up and
> > >> all the lights dim and your ceiling fan slows down,  (Brother
> > >> MFC8810dw prints suck *a lot* of current), you hear your UPS
> > >> click, but otherwise there's no sign of the undervolt. I hate to
> > >> thing what would happen to my box if I didn't have a UPS.
> > >>
> > >> I wouldn't be caught dead without a UPS on my daily driver or my
> > >> whole-house pfSense router/firewall.
> > >>
> > >> SteveT
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Re: ups

[Stephen Partington]

I just pitched one of these this last summer.

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 7:14 AM, Keith Smith 
wrote:

> On 2015-10-11 21:54, Michael Havens wrote:
>
>> you have 12 year old computers?
>>
>>
> No those computers are long gone.  The event was 13 or 14 years ago.  My
> oldest box, which is not used, is a 2005 Dell with a celeron cpu 1.25G RAM
> (upgraded from 256M)and a 40G IDE HD.  Old iron
>
> I like to replace at 5 or 6 years.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Keith Smith
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I've been using isobar since about 1993. I believe that is why I
>>> have not had any equipment failure. 13 or 14 years ago the
>>> transformer attached to where I was living exploded. I was sure it
>>> cooked my computer. Nothing happened to my computer.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8=isobar=googhydr-20=aps=84109345576=1t1==g=6200554956233029823===b=c=pd_sl_2hv0pgf2to_b_p2
>>
>>> [1]
>>>
>>>
>>> Of course it is not going to keep your computer running when the
>>> power goes out.
>>>
>>> On 2015-10-11 16:11, Steve Litt wrote:
>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 13:39:53 -0400
>>> Michael Havens  wrote:
>>>
>>> I finally broke down and bought a UPS:( I got a 650 VA for $57. The
>>> 550 VA was $55 so I figured it was worth the 2 extra dollars. Now I
>>> don't have to worry about frying my computer during one of the many
>>> lightening storms here in gainesville!
>>>
>>> That's a great price!
>>>
>>> The benefit of a UPS isn't preventing frying in a lightning storm.
>>> A
>>> simple surge protector does a better job of that. A UPS prevents
>>> your
>>> computer frying during a brownout or severel rapid transitions
>>> between
>>> power and no power. It also gives you a reasonable timeframe to
>>> perform
>>> an orderly shutdown, and in cases of > 1minute power outages, which
>>> describes over half of our power outages here in Seminole County
>>> Florida, you just keep computing.
>>>
>>> Another great thing about a UPS is when your printer starts up and
>>> all
>>> the lights dim and your ceiling fan slows down, (Brother MFC8810dw
>>> prints suck *a lot* of current), you hear your UPS click, but
>>> otherwise
>>> there's no sign of the undervolt. I hate to thing what would happen
>>> to
>>> my box if I didn't have a UPS.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't be caught dead without a UPS on my daily driver or my
>>> whole-house pfSense router/firewall.
>>>
>>> SteveT
>>>
>>> Steve Litt
>>> October 2015 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times
>>> http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive [2]
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Re: ups

[Stephen Partington]

I have to say i have always liked working with Supermicro hardware. Built
hundreds of systems with their hardware. less than 1% fail rate (SM parts
specifically)

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Steve Litt 
wrote:

> Yes.
>
> What's amazing is how solid this machine is. It has a supermicro mobo,
> and a case that could survive a collision with a train. It runs Win98
> just as perfectly as it did in 1998.
>
> SteveT
>
>
>
> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 07:15:33 -0700
> Keith Smith  wrote:
>
> > That will be a collector's item soon.
> >
> > On 2015-10-11 23:34, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > LOL,
> > >
> > > Sitting right next to me, I have a 1997 Pentium II that's my Windows
> > > machine. I fire it up every couple months to do a little Micrografx
> > > Windows Draw. It uses my Linux desktop's data directories via Samba.
> > >
> > > SteveT
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 00:54:09 -0400
> > > Michael Havens  wrote:
> > >
> > >> you have 12 year old computers?
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Keith Smith
> > >>  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > I've been using isobar since about 1993.  I believe that is why I
> > >> > have not had any equipment failure.  13 or 14 years ago the
> > >> > transformer attached to where I was living exploded.  I was sure
> > >> > it cooked my computer.  Nothing happened to my computer.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8=isobar=googhydr-20=aps=84109345576=1t1==g=6200554956233029823===b=c=pd_sl_2hv0pgf2to_b_p2
> > >> >
> > >> > Of course it is not going to keep your computer running when the
> > >> > power goes out.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On 2015-10-11 16:11, Steve Litt wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 13:39:53 -0400
> > >> >> Michael Havens  wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I finally broke down and bought a UPS:( I got a 650 VA for $57.
> > >> >> The
> > >> >>> 550 VA was $55 so I figured it was worth the 2 extra dollars.
> > >> >>> Now I don't have to worry about frying my computer during one
> > >> >>> of the many lightening storms here in gainesville!
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >> That's a great price!
> > >> >>
> > >> >> The benefit of a UPS isn't preventing frying in a lightning
> > >> >> storm. A simple surge protector does a better job of that. A
> > >> >> UPS prevents your computer frying during a brownout or severel
> > >> >> rapid transitions between power and no power. It also gives you
> > >> >> a reasonable timeframe to perform an orderly shutdown, and in
> > >> >> cases of > 1minute power outages, which describes over half of
> > >> >> our power outages here in Seminole County Florida, you just
> > >> >> keep computing.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Another great thing about a UPS is when your printer starts up
> > >> >> and all the lights dim and your ceiling fan slows down,
> > >> >> (Brother MFC8810dw prints suck *a lot* of current), you hear
> > >> >> your UPS click, but otherwise there's no sign of the undervolt.
> > >> >> I hate to thing what would happen to my box if I didn't have a
> > >> >> UPS.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I wouldn't be caught dead without a UPS on my daily driver or my
> > >> >> whole-house pfSense router/firewall.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> SteveT
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Re: What is your system advice? Solved.

[Stephen Partington]

you bought it an SSD instead of a fan?

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Nathan England  wrote:

>
>
> I have a T500 that I bought years ago. I begged and begged and Lenovo
> support sent me the better hard-backed keyboard which I promptly replaced.
> It was originally a core 2 duo 2.8GHz with 4GB of ram and a 160GB 7200 rpm
> drive.
>
> The fan went out a week after the warranty ended and I never had the extra
> 60 bucks to replace it, so it has lived on with the dual cores disabled in
> bios and powermanagement forcing it to run at 800MHz.
>
> I replaced the hard drive with a Samsung 840 Pro SSD and still use it with
> a single core at 800 and that laptop is faster than HP zBook with a fancy
> new core i7 and 16GB of ram. Well, it was until I put the same SSD in the
> zBook... but that's a different story.
>
> Long live Lenovo Thinkpads!
>
>
>
>
> On 2015-10-06 16:02, j...@actionline.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks again for all the helpful input in response to my
>> recent question: "What is your advice to update my system?"
>>
>> After much research, I finally decided that, for my needs, the best
>> option was a used T420 Thinkpad. I've had excellent results with IBM
>> Thinkpads and never had one fail. Now they are all Lenovo, of course; and
>> I found one from a private party on Craigslist for $200 that looks
>> absolutely brand new, like it has never been used, and with 8-Gb RAM.
>>
>> Lots of them on ebay for as little as $99 with no OS and priced all over
>> the map up to $500 and even more.
>>
>> Now just need to flush the 500-gig hard drive and install Linux Mint and
>> I should be good to go for the next 5 years or longer.
>>
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Re: DNS Servers

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​I am running my own internal DNs server and the list i had earlier is what
i am using to seed my DNS.​

On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Keith Smith 
wrote:

>
> I'm running bind, does that change my question?  I was talking about the
> two DNS servers that are part of the network Config.
>
> I'm running Ubuntu 14.04lts
>
> /etc/network/interfaces contains a line :
>
> dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4
>
> These are the name servers I asking about.  Sorry for any confusion.
>
>
> Kevin Fries, on another project I've been using ZoneEdit for maybe 3 years
> with only a problems. Have not had an issue in maybe 2 years. Interface is
> easy to understand and pricing seems reasonable.
>
>
>
>
> On 2015-10-05 12:41, Kevin Fries wrote:
>
>> My boss has started talking about using Amazon's hosted DNS solution.
>> On paper it sounds great, anybody use it?  And how does it stack up
>> against those mentioned here.  I have always used OpenDNS, with great
>> luck, but Amazon's redundancy built in solution sounds solid.
>>
>> Kevin
>> On Oct 5, 2015 1:35 PM, "Keith Smith" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Stephen and Michael!!
>>>
>>> Sense I am running a server connected to Cox, is there any
>>> advantage of using Cox's DNS servers?
>>>
>>> Thanks!!
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>> On 2015-10-04 21:40, Michael Butash wrote:
>>> So I still use the same dns server in phoenix and dallas they had
>>> when
>>> they took over from @home/work, 68.2.16.30 and 68.1.208.30. These
>>> were old farm vips of e220 solaris boxen that served from the dark
>>> days, and remain (hopefully as not those same slowaris boxen)
>>> somewhat
>>> unhampered as so much internal stuff uses them too. Sort of like
>>> their old green-screen terminal crm they still use internally...
>>>
>>> I specifically don't use their dhcp-fed servers, as those are
>>> intercepted for their ridiculous cox search page. I somewhat take
>>> offense to it actually, I consider it a man in the middle attack.
>>> Those old vip's don't do that.
>>>
>>> Otherwise, you feed google's analytics engines with dns queries.
>>> Pick
>>> your evil marketing engine doing creative business intelligence
>>> analystics against your search queries. Sadly I'm always searching
>>> google, so I might as well feed them my dns too, but I don't.
>>>
>>> -mb
>>>
>>> On 10/04/2015 08:09 PM, Keith Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm configuring a web server on my Cox business connection. I used
>>> Google's DNS servers 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 on the box.
>>>
>>> I'm now wondering if I should use Cox's DNS servers.
>>>
>>> Your thoughts are much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Keith
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Re: How to add an ssd drive?

[Stephen Partington]

Looks like what I want to do for my wife's laptop
On Oct 6, 2015 5:41 PM,  wrote:

> Brian Cluff last wrote:
> > You'll enjoy that Laptop a lot. I just picked up a T420 myself
> > a few weeks ago and everything works perfect right out of the box.
> > I did add 8 gigs of ram for a total of 12 and installed a 240Gig
> > mSATA SSD ... an addition to the 320 Gig spinning drive that
> > I put /home on, and that made a huge difference in the speed
> > of all the apps loading.
>
> How difficult is it to add an SSD?
>
> I really don't need the 500-gig HD that is in this T420
> that I just bought. On my old net-top system, df shows this:
> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/sda5   15307020  6231552   8307468  43% /
> udev 10207084   1020704   1% /dev
> tmpfs 412276 1060411216   1% /run
> none51200  5120   0% /run/lock
> none 103068021072   1009608   3% /run/shm
> /dev/sda6   71559236 26600696  41374540  40% /home
>
> Instead of flushing the 500-gig HD, could I just install
> a 64-gig or 128-gig SSD and install Linux on that and leave
> the 500-gig unused? I don't need to bother with dual boot.
>
> I looked on Amazon and saw these:
>
> Transcend 64GB SATA III 6Gb/s MSA370 mSATA Solid State Drive
> (TS64GMSA370) by Transcend $39.99 Prime
>
> MyDigitalSSD 128GB 50mm Bullet Proof 4 BP4 50mm mSATA
> Solid State Drive SSD SATA III 6G - MDMS-BP4-120
> by MyDigitalSSD $55.00 Prime or $44.95 used (3 offers)
>
> Also, what is the best way to install Linux Mint 17.2?
>
> I downloaded linuxmint-17.2-mate-32bit.iso but the size
> is 1,572,864,000 so I can't burn that onto a dvd to
> install it.
>
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Re: build your own DSN receiver

[Stephen Partington]

Awesome
On Oct 9, 2015 9:21 PM, "der.hans"  wrote:

> moin moin,
>
> last night we had a question about building your own satellite dish for
> listening in on the deep space network.
>
> Looks like someone has figured it out for less than $400.
>
> https://plus.google.com/+ciprianmoloci/posts/9njsYoZXTzt
>
> ciao,
>
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Re: i3/i5/i7 vs Intel Xeon

[Stephen Partington]

Those are some sexy blades.
On Oct 9, 2015 9:58 PM, "Kevin Fries"  wrote:

> I7 is quad core, Xeon can go to 18 core and have dual procs.  We are
> currently considering Power Edge blades with 2x14 cores to build private
> cloud.
>
> Kevin
> On Oct 9, 2015 2:10 PM, "Keith Smith"  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was browsing Dell's PowerEdge servers and noticed they use the Intel
>> Xeon.  I was wondering what might be the advantage of a Intel Xeon vs. an
>> i3/i5/i7  ?
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
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Re: RHEL 8

[Stephen Partington]

Fedora 23 is looking really slick... and i am liking their
Workstation/Server/Cloud installer splits.

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Ed  wrote:

> Kieth - not for years, besides most biz are still looking at the 6->7
> migration as a TODO.
> If you are itching for RHEL8 - get your fix with Fedora - 23 is due soon.
>
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Keith Smith 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was looking around for some info for when RHEL 8 might come on the
> scene.
> > The last two releases where about 3 1/2 years apart.  I'm guessing maybe
> > around the first part of 2018.
> >
> > A quick search produced little insight.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks!!
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Re: i3/i5/i7 vs Intel Xeon

[Stephen Partington]

Intel has some amazing documentation on this. And ark.intel.com has some
solid data on processors. The main difference in a nutshell is no gpu
support and fewer desktop features and more server features.
On Oct 9, 2015 1:10 PM, "Keith Smith"  wrote:

>
>
> Hi,
>
> I was browsing Dell's PowerEdge servers and noticed they use the Intel
> Xeon.  I was wondering what might be the advantage of a Intel Xeon vs. an
> i3/i5/i7  ?
>
> Any thoughts?
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Re: OT: Blocking Sites

[Stephen Partington]

the fastest solution would be to route the domains via local copy of the
hosts file. to say localhost or some place you approve of. then you can
look for a more long term solution.



On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 1:26 PM, AZ Pete p...@cactusfamily.com wrote:

  All,

 I have two boys who's video gaming on their laptops is out of control. If
 me or my wife aren't *constantly* looking over their shoulders, they will
 be playing games. And they are savvy enough to have their educational
 lessons open in one tab and games in another and alt-tab away from the game
 when we are walking past.

 I need a solution that will block their game sites, while still allowing
 access to all the other sites that are needed for school, lessons, research
 etc.

 Is there some method I can block DNS requests to certain domains, while
 keeping others active for only their computers? I want something *very
 easy* to set up and maintain that runs on Windows (all computers in my home
 network are Win based). I have a Windows file server I could load some kind
 of proxy software on and have the kids computers hit the proxy to resolve
 DNS calls. But again, I don't want to screw around with complex proxy
 servers, net nanny based software, etc. Also, simply editing their hosts
 file isn't terribly realistic either.

 Basically, I want a solution where I can easily enter a domain to be
 blocked (or removed for access) for only their PCs, without having to sink
 hours and hours into learning/configuring/maintaining some complex software
 solution. I'd also rather not have to load some kind of net-nanny software
 onto each of their computers (which would be a pain to constantly have to
 maintain the block list on each machine).

 Free/Open Source would be best, but I'll be willing to pay if the price is
 right.

 I'm at my wits end with this game addition (and yes it's an addiction) and
 need a solution.

 Any thoughts would be most appreciated.

 Peter

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