Re: Best Vista Error EVAR, gaming, and software requests, and an Ubuntu gripe
OMG, I didn't know that! I'm willing to bet a lot of people on the list didn't, either! I guess I'm just lucky as, since I don't need it, I don't run it. Mike On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:32:08 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Quoting der.hans [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am 20. Mai, 2008 schwätzte Erich Newell so: If you do this however...I highly recommend editing the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file to not allow root logon. Shouldn't sshd generally be configured to not allow logging in as root? It should. But even recent distros like RHEL5 shipped sshd_config with 'PermitRootLogin yes', which for some unfathomable reason is the default set by the OpenSSH project. I just checked the source code for OpenSSH 5.0p1, which is the most recent stable release I could find, and 'PermitRootLogin yes' is still the default in sshd_config. http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/openssh/portable/openssh-5.0p1.tar.gz alex --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Lost text input on command line
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Jon M. Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try typing reset without the quotes to see if that helps. Thank you for this answer. This does resolve the issue I was experiencing. OranRoot1000: I use rtorrent for cli and it works great. ctorrent hasn't been maintained for years it seems and is slow and buggy. rtorrent has been rock solid for me. Don't forget to use moblock/mobloquer. I am trying out various command line torrent apps and rtorrent is on my list (also tried transmssioncli). I have not heard of moblock/mobloquer. A quick search of gentoo's portage tree doesn't reveal them. I'm guessing they are programs designed to protect identity or hide torrent traffic from ISP's? Matrix Mole --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Best Vista Error EVAR, gaming, and software requests, and an Ubuntu gripe
FreeBSD, and I would have to assume OpenBSD have root login via ssh disabled by default. It doesn't make much sense why linux distros don't change this, but it doesn't make sense why MySQL is shipped without a root password either. I guess someone thinks it's a good idea, or doesn't think it's a bad enough idea to fix a common sense security flaw. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OMG, I didn't know that! I'm willing to bet a lot of people on the list didn't, either! I guess I'm just lucky as, since I don't need it, I don't run it. Mike On Wed, 21 May 2008 11:32:08 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Quoting der.hans [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am 20. Mai, 2008 schwätzte Erich Newell so: If you do this however...I highly recommend editing the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file to not allow root logon. Shouldn't sshd generally be configured to not allow logging in as root? It should. But even recent distros like RHEL5 shipped sshd_config with 'PermitRootLogin yes', which for some unfathomable reason is the default set by the OpenSSH project. I just checked the source code for OpenSSH 5.0p1, which is the most recent stable release I could find, and 'PermitRootLogin yes' is still the default in sshd_config. http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/openssh/portable/openssh-5.0p1.tar.gz alex --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Microsoft joins OLPC
Ted Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 21:01 -0700, Dennis Kibbe wrote: I agree with everyone else that this is a sad day. Following on the ISO fiasco I can't see it as any other than more of M$ Embrace, Extend and Extinguish. No, I think this is much simpler. MS realizes that if they loose out on the netbook market they loose in an massive future market. The OLPC was the first and the most recognized of these today. It's a good thing to put in ads. But, more over, besides the PR bump I don't see this as a significant loss for Linux. The reality is that the OLPC project ha(d|s) tons of problems, I mean they basically messed up on 16 thousand orders that they did have. In the future there will be more netbooks, and I imagine that a lot of them will run Linux. Those will start to be more interesting and where we should be focusing our attention as a community. Well put Ted. The idea of RMS using a laptop built for children is truly poetic. --Ted I was at the FSF office in Boston in March when Richard, Justin and JAG (FSF sysadmins) were trying the work out the details of using the XO. The USB bus didn't have enough power for the external hard drive and the non-proprietary USB wifi dongle to be used at the same time. The XO keyboard was impractical for adults to type on so Richard put a Happy Hacker keyboard on risers to allow it to sit on top of the XO keyboard. On the plus side, he didn't need to used the big under the laptop external battery that he had for the Thinkpad. Dennisk -- Free as in Freedom Free Software Foundation --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Best Vista Error EVAR, gaming, and software requests, and an Ubuntu gripe
Pretty much it's assumed that if you can login to a machine in any way, you know the password and you change it regularly. It's just a bad thing when it's decryptable in my opinion. Otherwise, there's a huge problem with SSH in general and should be avoided like the plague. (in 2 occasions or so lol) SSH has been around long enough with options such as that where people could have learned that in elementary school if they taught more than Apple IIe or Windows. Have to admit, it's a world different than rsh, I almost cried in happiness when ssh was invented. Everytime I've ever installed MySQL (via emerge/dpkg/etc), it's almost always said something along the lines of 'now's the time to set the root password with xyz command'. I do agree though, it should be part of the initial startup... if root is blank, prompt user for password then timeout after 20 seconds and kill the running app. --Dan On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Jon Ernster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FreeBSD, and I would have to assume OpenBSD have root login via ssh disabled by default. It doesn't make much sense why linux distros don't change this, but it doesn't make sense why MySQL is shipped without a root password either. I guess someone thinks it's a good idea, or doesn't think it's a bad enough idea to fix a common sense security flaw. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Microsoft joins OLPC
That was a serious concern? Man, I thought it was standard practice to use a usb hub with power plugin when using 2 items of relatively high power usage. On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Dennis Kibbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was at the FSF office in Boston in March when Richard, Justin and JAG (FSF sysadmins) were trying the work out the details of using the XO. The USB bus didn't have enough power for the external hard drive and the non-proprietary USB wifi dongle to be used at the same time. -- Thanks, Dan Lund --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ubuntu vs fedora vs mandriva...
On Thu, 2008-05-22 at 12:37 -0700, Josh Coffman wrote: Hi, It's been a while since I took a few distro's recent releases for a test drive. I've stuck with Ubuntu not because I love it but because it was a lot easier to get a working desktop with than my favored Fedora. With recent releases and how fast things improve in nix world, I'm wondering if other major distros have gotten better at the desktop. Can anyone say whether the recent releases from Fedora, Mandriva, or even OpenSuse make setting up your desktop easier? I should mention that at one time I had written down every step and command I used to get a working desktop with Fedora 6. This, for me, means including nvidia drivers, ndiswrapper with broadcom driver (at the time bcm43xx drivers didn't support faster than 802.11b speeds), compiz, multimedia playback, and my personal favorite apps/games. Ubuntu enables easier installation of nvidia, ndiswrapper, and multimedia. Has Fedora gotten better or are they still in a death grip with purist theology? I thought Mandriva felt a little lite as a desktop, and YAST2 makes me crazy. How are these doing? Yeah, I read some reviews, but those only say so much. Besides, I've always gotten good feedback from PLUG members. Fedora 9 (the latest release) uses xorg that is not presently supported by nvidia and thus, there would be no way to make compiz work with an nvidia card today. That could change tomorrow but I think it will take a month or so. Fedora 9 also took a major jump in KDE (KDE-4) which does have some feature regression at this stage if you are a KDE user. As for multimedia...it is doubtful that they will ever change their position, they don't provide binaries/codecs but they do offer to link you in with fluendo where you can 'purchase' licensed copies and of course, you always have the option of installing livna repository which will get the various codecs for multimedia. Livna also publishes the ati nvidia binary packages (when available) and it makes sense to add Livna to your repository list. I suppose that if you felt that they were ever in a 'death grip with purist theology', then you won't feel that they've changed. In all, it was a very aggressive release. Craig --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ubuntu vs fedora vs mandriva...
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Craig White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-22 at 12:37 -0700, Josh Coffman wrote: Hi, It's been a while since I took a few distro's recent releases for a test drive. I've stuck with Ubuntu not because I love it but because it was a lot easier to get a working desktop with than my favored Fedora. With recent releases and how fast things improve in nix world, I'm wondering if other major distros have gotten better at the desktop. Can anyone say whether the recent releases from Fedora, Mandriva, or even OpenSuse make setting up your desktop easier? I should mention that at one time I had written down every step and command I used to get a working desktop with Fedora 6. This, for me, means including nvidia drivers, ndiswrapper with broadcom driver (at the time bcm43xx drivers didn't support faster than 802.11b speeds), compiz, multimedia playback, and my personal favorite apps/games. Ubuntu enables easier installation of nvidia, ndiswrapper, and multimedia. Has Fedora gotten better or are they still in a death grip with purist theology? I thought Mandriva felt a little lite as a desktop, and YAST2 makes me crazy. How are these doing? Yeah, I read some reviews, but those only say so much. Besides, I've always gotten good feedback from PLUG members. Fedora 9 (the latest release) uses xorg that is not presently supported by nvidia and thus, there would be no way to make compiz work with an nvidia card today. That could change tomorrow but I think it will take a month or so. Fedora 9 also took a major jump in KDE (KDE-4) which does have some feature regression at this stage if you are a KDE user. As for multimedia...it is doubtful that they will ever change their position, they don't provide binaries/codecs but they do offer to link you in with fluendo where you can 'purchase' licensed copies and of course, you always have the option of installing livna repository which will get the various codecs for multimedia. Livna also publishes the ati nvidia binary packages (when available) and it makes sense to add Livna to your repository list. I suppose that if you felt that they were ever in a 'death grip with purist theology', then you won't feel that they've changed. In all, it was a very aggressive release. Craig I've had strange package conflicts before from livna versus other repos. Its been a while but i think it was because I was getting the nvidia driver from them and some other package from another place and they both had the same dependency but different version numbers. I understand where they are coming from; I just wish there was an easier/faster way to get a desktop setup with Fedora. So is OpenSuse or Mandrake any easier as a multimedia desktop? -j --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ubuntu vs fedora vs mandriva...
The latest Mandriva 2008 Spring has been a joy to install and use. All multimedia capabilities you would expect are easily installed and configured. The nVidia drivers are offered to be loaded at install if applicable. Compiz sets up with a few clicks. Respositories setup easily and program installs are a breeze. You can try it out with the Live version, even including the nVidia drivers. I have been using Mandrake/Mandriva for years and the last two versions have been vastly improved over previous releases. On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Josh Coffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had strange package conflicts before from livna versus other repos. Its been a while but i think it was because I was getting the nvidia driver from them and some other package from another place and they both had the same dependency but different version numbers. I understand where they are coming from; I just wish there was an easier/faster way to get a desktop setup with Fedora. So is OpenSuse or Mandrake any easier as a multimedia desktop? -- Donn There is a very fine line between hobby and mental illness. -- Dave Barry --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ubuntu vs fedora vs mandriva...
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Donn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The latest Mandriva 2008 Spring has been a joy to install and use. All multimedia capabilities you would expect are easily installed and configured. The nVidia drivers are offered to be loaded at install if applicable. Compiz sets up with a few clicks. Respositories setup easily and program installs are a breeze. You can try it out with the Live version, even including the nVidia drivers. I have been using Mandrake/Mandriva for years and the last two versions have been vastly improved over previous releases. -- Donn There is a very fine line between hobby and mental illness. -- Dave Barry --- Is it easy to install flash player? My kids play on a couple flash sites. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ubuntu vs fedora vs mandriva...
I don't remember actually installing it, but about:plugins in Firefox reports version 9.0 r48 and the Adobe Flash site, youtube, and flash on every site I have visited works fine. The Mandriva Documentation says that Flash can be installed directly from the Flash site via RPM. On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Josh Coffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Donn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The latest Mandriva 2008 Spring has been a joy to install and use. All multimedia capabilities you would expect are easily installed and configured. The nVidia drivers are offered to be loaded at install if applicable. Compiz sets up with a few clicks. Respositories setup easily and program installs are a breeze. You can try it out with the Live version, even including the nVidia drivers. I have been using Mandrake/Mandriva for years and the last two versions have been vastly improved over previous releases. -- Donn There is a very fine line between hobby and mental illness. -- Dave Barry --- Is it easy to install flash player? My kids play on a couple flash sites. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Donn There is a very fine line between hobby and mental illness. -- Dave Barry --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
URL paste in firefox 3
moin moin, this might be just a change for Ubuntu. For a long time Firefox allowed pasting a URL via the middle mouse button. Firefox would then open that URL. The Firefox 3 beta in hardy no longer allows using the middle button to paste a URL to open. I constantly use this, so it was dearly missed. It used to be that setting middlemouse.paste to true on the about:config page would enable pasting URLs, but that was on and pasting to open was still broken on a couple of boxen. Apparently middlemouse.contentLoadURL needs to be set to true as well. Changing that on both boxen that weren't working fixed the problem. I still need to check the other two boxen that were still pasting to open. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/33511 ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/https://LOPSA.org/ # Batman Sues Batsignal: Demands Trademark Royalties. -- Cory Doctorow --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
