Oracle buys Sun!
It was just announced that Oracle is buying Sun. This is not a drill. How is this going to play out for Java and MySQL? -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Oracle buys Sun!
And VirtualBox, and Open Solaris... ET James Mcphee writes: It was just announced that Oracle is buying Sun. This is not a drill. How is this going to play out for Java and MySQL? -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: wireless problem
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: I'm having a problem connecting with encryption enabled. My setup is a Desktop and a Dell latitude laptop both running Ubuntu 8.04 and both running wicd (at the moment). The desktop is hard wired to the Linksys WRT54GL router. So the desktop is not involved in wireless in any way except that you use it to change settings on the router/AP. It should not be affected by any of the wireless setings including encryption. Though one might wonder why you are running wicd on the desktop if it has a wired connection to the router. If I configure the router with the web based utility and don't enable encryption I can connect and access everything on the net with no problem. As expected and I presume it is true for both machines. Though you don't say which, only the laptop should be affected so I presume that is what you are reporting. If I go back and enable wpa or wpa2 and save, the connection is dropped. Again, this should only happen on the laptop. When I try to reconnect the error message says that this network requires encryption to be enabled even though the network is detected as having wpa or wpa2 encryption. Opening advanced settings on wicd shows encryption to be enabled. I have seen where the wireless network connection needs to be deleted so it can be rediscovered in order to have it ask you for the new passphrase instead of just failing with the old settings. You might try that. So on the laptop, go into the network setup, select the wireless connection and delete it. Now let the laptop re-discover your wireless signal and it should again ask you for the passphrase. I tried entering a random string as a pass phrase when I set up the encryption Huh? While you might choose a random passphrase when you change settings on the router, you must match it exactly when you input it on the laptop there is no automatic discovery as there were with early versions of WEP. Someone stomp on this if I am mis-speaking. and also tried letting the configuration automatically do it, both with no luck. If you are talking about the easy setup software that came with the router/AP, you must be taling about doing this in Windows as I don't think Linksys provides Linux setup software. Also, even when I connect unsecured, the desktop won't connect. At this point I am beginning to look at the block wall in my back yard and wonder if I can put the router through it. Any help *greatly* appreciated. -- Bob Holtzman --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: More Firefox weirdness
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 12:13 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote: FF3 is VERY buggy. -jmz On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 12:08 PM, stu w wie...@cox.net wrote: Greetings All, Paying bills today, which I normally do online, and have never run into a problem with Firefox on Ubuntu 8.10. After logging off from APS, I got a pop-up asking me to take a survey for APS. I clicked on it, and it was a nightmare from my old windows days. It kept opening up blank browser windows faster than I could click out of them! I do have the Firefox pop-up blocker enabled, but the windows continued to open even after I disconnected from the network. Does anyone know if this is an issue with Firefox, or the APS website? Thanks, Stu there are many websites that just design and test just for IE, some possibly for IE Safari and if not designed and tested with FF too, can produce some unpredictable results. I don't blame all weirdness on FF just because it's FF. Then I have found that the Adobe plugins are somewhat problematic on FF but they are getting better. The AdobeReader plugin on FF has long been a nightmare and I typically install AdobeReader and remove the FF plugin so PDF files are downloaded instead of opened directly in a FF window/tab. That said, if you do a survey for APS, it strikes me as fate. Craig In fact, I have always thought most of the problems people have with FF have more to do with the many add-ons most people use. I seldom have more than three and have rarely had any issues other than with sites using microsoft specific extensions. Interestingly enough, today's email had a reference to: http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7307/1.html which seems to confirm that theory. I do not mean that other suggestions are wrong, just that one might suspect add-ons first as a source for wierdnesses. -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: More Firefox weirdness
BTW, although that article talks about people using betas and nightly builds and having problems, the point about using many add-ons remains even for a release version. I have seen other articles saying that. This article just happened to come along today. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Oracle buys Sun!
Excerpts from James Mcphee's message of Mon Apr 20 04:52:33 -0700 2009: It was just announced that Oracle is buying Sun. This is not a drill. How is this going to play out for Java and MySQL? Why did they buy Sun? Is that all these rich people do? Hmmm... *fingertip-touching in front of own face thing* How can I get my name on Slashdot again... *yawn* Ah, hell, I'll just buy Sun. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: More Firefox weirdness
Am 18. Apr, 2009 schwätzte stu w so: Greetings All, Paying bills today, which I normally do online, and have never run into a problem with Firefox on Ubuntu 8.10. After logging off from APS, I got a pop-up asking me to take a survey for APS. I clicked on it, and it was a nightmare from my old windows days. It kept opening up blank browser windows faster than I could click out of them! I do have the Firefox pop-up blocker enabled, but the windows continued to open even after I disconnected from the network. Does anyone know if this is an issue with Firefox, or the APS website? That is an issue with Firefox. It should limit how many windows/popups/dialog boxes can be opened in order to prevent this type of denial of service. Firefox is better than it used to be, but there are still some issues. In the preferences on the content tab there are options to configure java and javascript. I allow changing images and turn off all other options. The link from Lisa links to an article on Controle de Scrtips, which gives even more control. http://www.firefoxfacts.com/2008/06/04/tell-javascript-what-it-can-and-can-not-do/ I also have popups open new tabs rather than popup windows. I don't like things that try to steal focus and demand my attention. ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # ... All true wisdom is found on T-shirts.--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: More Firefox weirdness
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:19 PM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote: Am 18. Apr, 2009 schwätzte stu w so: Greetings All, Paying bills today, which I normally do online, and have never run into a problem with Firefox on Ubuntu 8.10. After logging off from APS, I got a pop-up asking me to take a survey for APS. I clicked on it, and it was a nightmare from my old windows days. It kept opening up blank browser windows faster than I could click out of them! I do have the Firefox pop-up blocker enabled, but the windows continued to open even after I disconnected from the network. Does anyone know if this is an issue with Firefox, or the APS website? That is an issue with Firefox. It should limit how many windows/popups/dialog boxes can be opened in order to prevent this type of denial of service. Firefox is better than it used to be, but there are still some issues. In the preferences on the content tab there are options to configure java and javascript. I allow changing images and turn off all other options. I had forgotten that and yes, I do the same including opening new tabs rather than new windows. Thanks for the reminder The link from Lisa links to an article on Controle de Scrtips, which gives even more control. http://www.firefoxfacts.com/2008/06/04/tell-javascript-what-it-can-and-can-not-do/ I also have popups open new tabs rather than popup windows. I don't like things that try to steal focus and demand my attention. ciao, der.hans -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes/ # ... All true wisdom is found on T-shirts. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Oracle buys Sun!
thats rather extreme for a simple /. fame... i have a feeling they have a number of ideas of what to do with the whole of it. On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Andrew Tuna Harris t...@supertunaman.com wrote: Excerpts from James Mcphee's message of Mon Apr 20 04:52:33 -0700 2009: It was just announced that Oracle is buying Sun. This is not a drill. How is this going to play out for Java and MySQL? Why did they buy Sun? Is that all these rich people do? Hmmm... *fingertip-touching in front of own face thing* How can I get my name on Slashdot again... *yawn* Ah, hell, I'll just buy Sun. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RE: Oracle buys Sun!
Oracle bought the Sun ? Wow, maybe they can do something about global warming, Turn the Temp down a little, stop all those sun spots. Huh, Hmmm, Oh, NEVERMIND -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Stephen Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 1:22 PM To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: Oracle buys Sun! thats rather extreme for a simple /. fame... i have a feeling they have a number of ideas of what to do with the whole of it. On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Andrew Tuna Harris t...@supertunaman.com wrote: Excerpts from James Mcphee's message of Mon Apr 20 04:52:33 -0700 2009: It was just announced that Oracle is buying Sun. This is not a drill. How is this going to play out for Java and MySQL? Why did they buy Sun? Is that all these rich people do? Hmmm... *fingertip-touching in front of own face thing* How can I get my name on Slashdot again... *yawn* Ah, hell, I'll just buy Sun. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: More Firefox weirdness
Would this be a cookie issue? There are cookie manager add-ons for Firefox. After I installed one, I just goto: Tools=Page Info=Permissions=Set Cookies. Then choose between Use Default, Allow, Allow for session, Block. I know the back button not working is a cookie issue. I had Firefox set to allow because I was posting to forums and went to other websites which broke my back button so the I could not leave the site. Once I set the cookies back to default the problem with the back button went away. MatthewMPP der.hans wrote: Am 18. Apr, 2009 schwätzte stu w so: Greetings All, Paying bills today, which I normally do online, and have never run into a problem with Firefox on Ubuntu 8.10. After logging off from APS, I got a pop-up asking me to take a survey for APS. I clicked on it, and it was a nightmare from my old windows days. It kept opening up blank browser windows faster than I could click out of them! I do have the Firefox pop-up blocker enabled, but the windows continued to open even after I disconnected from the network. Does anyone know if this is an issue with Firefox, or the APS website? That is an issue with Firefox. It should limit how many windows/popups/dialog boxes can be opened in order to prevent this type of denial of service. Firefox is better than it used to be, but there are still some issues. In the preferences on the content tab there are options to configure java and javascript. I allow changing images and turn off all other options. The link from Lisa links to an article on Controle de Scrtips, which gives even more control. http://www.firefoxfacts.com/2008/06/04/tell-javascript-what-it-can-and-can-not-do/ I also have popups open new tabs rather than popup windows. I don't like things that try to steal focus and demand my attention. ciao, der.hans --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Oracle buys Sun!
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:52 AM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote: It was just announced that Oracle is buying Sun. This is not a drill. How is this going to play out for Java and MySQL? I've been quite fond of OpenSolaris lately.What I really hope they do is license ZFS and Dtrace for GPLv2 so Linux can use them. They did mention Solaris a bit in the press releases, so it is a major part of the deal.It's not a bad OS and is open source.If they license it GPLv2, everybody will win in the end. Solaris will get to borrow drivers from Linux and Linux will get ZFS and Dtrace. As for Java, just look at the nightmare that is OAS (Oracle Application Server).Hopefully they'll fire that entire unit (sans the guys responsible for TopLink) and replace it with Glassfish. If they try to use their own Java people, it'll be a mess and Java will suffer. That much is proven by their track record with OAS. I think MySQL will live on but its name will change to one of the forks like Drizzle or the other bit one whose name I forget.Then again, maybe they'll start adding PL/SQL and other goodies to MySQL and evolve it into a kind of gateway drug to Oracle, which would be just fine with me. I'd love to be able to do full Oracle SQL and PL/SQL in MySQL and scale up to full Oracle later on. Almost nobody writes straight to the C API's any more so it's feasible. Anyways, those are my fanboi dreams for this deal. I really look forward to seeing how this plays out. It's definitely going to be more interesting and less scary than the IBM deal would have been. -Al Tobey -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Oracle buys Sun!
seeing ZFS and dtrace in the Linux world would be amazing.. but seeing more of the linux world in opensolaris would be equally amazing... and having a full UNIX server to build an optimized oracle for would be interesting to. the mind spins with geeky dreams On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Al Tobey tob...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:52 AM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote: It was just announced that Oracle is buying Sun. This is not a drill. How is this going to play out for Java and MySQL? I've been quite fond of OpenSolaris lately. What I really hope they do is license ZFS and Dtrace for GPLv2 so Linux can use them. They did mention Solaris a bit in the press releases, so it is a major part of the deal. It's not a bad OS and is open source. If they license it GPLv2, everybody will win in the end. Solaris will get to borrow drivers from Linux and Linux will get ZFS and Dtrace. As for Java, just look at the nightmare that is OAS (Oracle Application Server). Hopefully they'll fire that entire unit (sans the guys responsible for TopLink) and replace it with Glassfish. If they try to use their own Java people, it'll be a mess and Java will suffer. That much is proven by their track record with OAS. I think MySQL will live on but its name will change to one of the forks like Drizzle or the other bit one whose name I forget. Then again, maybe they'll start adding PL/SQL and other goodies to MySQL and evolve it into a kind of gateway drug to Oracle, which would be just fine with me. I'd love to be able to do full Oracle SQL and PL/SQL in MySQL and scale up to full Oracle later on. Almost nobody writes straight to the C API's any more so it's feasible. Anyways, those are my fanboi dreams for this deal. I really look forward to seeing how this plays out. It's definitely going to be more interesting and less scary than the IBM deal would have been. -Al Tobey -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Fw: Re: Oracle buys Sun!
If Java slips that might put Flex in place to become the next big language. Keith Smith --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Al Tobey tob...@gmail.com wrote: From: Al Tobey tob...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Oracle buys Sun! To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 1:36 PM On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:52 AM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote: It was just announced that Oracle is buying Sun. This is not a drill. How is this going to play out for Java and MySQL? I've been quite fond of OpenSolaris lately. What I really hope they do is license ZFS and Dtrace for GPLv2 so Linux can use them. They did mention Solaris a bit in the press releases, so it is a major part of the deal. It's not a bad OS and is open source. If they license it GPLv2, everybody will win in the end. Solaris will get to borrow drivers from Linux and Linux will get ZFS and Dtrace. As for Java, just look at the nightmare that is OAS (Oracle Application Server). Hopefully they'll fire that entire unit (sans the guys responsible for TopLink) and replace it with Glassfish. If they try to use their own Java people, it'll be a mess and Java will suffer. That much is proven by their track record with OAS. I think MySQL will live on but its name will change to one of the forks like Drizzle or the other bit one whose name I forget. Then again, maybe they'll start adding PL/SQL and other goodies to MySQL and evolve it into a kind of gateway drug to Oracle, which would be just fine with me. I'd love to be able to do full Oracle SQL and PL/SQL in MySQL and scale up to full Oracle later on. Almost nobody writes straight to the C API's any more so it's feasible. Anyways, those are my fanboi dreams for this deal. I really look forward to seeing how this plays out. It's definitely going to be more interesting and less scary than the IBM deal would have been. -Al Tobey -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Fw: Re: Oracle buys Sun!
Let's hope that doesn't happen. Flex is a very limited language, and doesn't really have architecture to be expanded to cover the immense breadth of what Java covers (particularly the server-side and mobile spaces, which is 90+% of all Java). Fortunately Java 7 is already under GPL and dual-hosted on independent sites, so if Oracle tries to mess with it, the community will just dump their contribs and continue on without them. The JCP organization is already independent enough to ensure that Oracle can't screw up the language spec (IBM and others demanded that shift almost 10 years ago when people though MS was going to buy Sun). keith smith wrote: If Java slips that might put Flex in place to become the next big language.� Keith Smith --- On Mon, 4/20/09, Al Tobey tob...@gmail.com wrote: From: Al Tobey tob...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Oracle buys Sun! To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 1:36 PM On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:52 AM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote: It was just announced that Oracle is buying Sun.� This is not a drill.� How is this going to play out for Java and MySQL? I've been quite fond of OpenSolaris lately.� � What I really hope they do is license ZFS and Dtrace for GPLv2 so Linux can use them.� They did mention Solaris a bit in the press releases, so it is a major part of the deal.� � It's not a bad OS and is open source.� � If they license it GPLv2, everybody will win in the end.���Solaris will get to borrow drivers from Linux and Linux will get ZFS and Dtrace. As for Java, just look at the nightmare that is OAS (Oracle Application Server).� � Hopefully they'll fire that entire unit (sans the guys responsible for TopLink) and replace it with Glassfish.���If they try to use their own Java people, it'll be a mess and Java will suffer.���That much is proven by their track record with OAS. I think MySQL will live on but its name will change to one of the forks like Drizzle or the other bit one whose name I forget.� � Then again, maybe they'll start adding PL/SQL and other goodies to MySQL and evolve it into a kind of gateway drug to Oracle, which would be just fine with me.� I'd love to be able to do full Oracle SQL and PL/SQL in MySQL and scale up to full Oracle later on.���Almost nobody writes straight to the C API's any more so it's feasible. Anyways, those are my fanboi dreams for this deal.���I really look forward to seeing how this plays out.���It's definitely going to be more interesting and less scary than the IBM deal would have been. -Al Tobey -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Apache basic authentication not working
We are using the ViewVC tool[1] as a web interface for browsing CVS and Subversion repositories. Been working wonderfully for a long time. Recently we wanted to limit the access to browse the source. We want to do this with Apache's basic authentication capability. All a great plan. On Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 the configuration of Apache is controlled by configuration files in /etc/httpd/conf.d. Every file in that directory whose name ends in .conf is read as an Apache configuration file. For example, our server has files like apcupsd.conf perl.conf ssl.conf twiki.conf and so on. All of them are read in alphabetical order and concatenate to make the Apache configuration. The viewvc.conf file is shown below. The attempt is to require a user password for all access to ViewVC. The authentication points at the user file for Subversion so if you have Subversion access, you have repository browsing access. The user file works fine for Subversion as defined in a separate subversion.conf file. The painful part is that the configuration does not work. Navigating to the ViewVC URL always results in displaying the interface and information. Apache never asks for the authentication. Here is what I have tried: - Rename the viewvc.conf file to viewvc.DISABLED, restart Apache, URL now returns 404 not found, as it should - Edit viewvc.conf to put an invalid directive in the Location block, restart Apache, Apache fails to start because of a configuration error. This proves that the viewvc.conf file is being read. - Navigated to the URL using MS Internet Explorer, which I normally never use. The page loads normally without asking for a password proving it is not a browser caching issue with Firefox. So the file is being read but it is not working at all. Do any of you see something obviously wrong with the viewvc.conf contents below? Do you have any other things I could try? ---[begin viewvc.conf]--- ScriptAlias /viewvc /var/www/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi ScriptAlias /query /var/www/cgi-bin/query.cgi Alias /viewvc-static /var/www/viewvc Directory /var/www/viewvc Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory Directory /var/www/cgi-bin Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory Location /viewcvs AuthType Basic AuthName Subversion ID AuthUserFile /etc/svn-auth-file Require valid-user /Location Location /query AuthType Basic AuthName Subversion ID AuthUserFile /etc/svn-auth-file Require valid-user /Location ---[end viewvc.conf]--- Alan [1]http://viewvc.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectHome --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Lighting/Sunbird/iCal howto
To whom it may concern, Here is how you can add events from online calendars. The links included are AZloco, Fridge (Ubuntu Events), Plug (not a continuous feed, only a partial). File= New= Calendar= OnTheNetwork= Format= iCalendar= Location= AZloco: (paste link in location) http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/27h62u2a9up3i78tsneu4qhdfk%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics Fridge: (paste link in location) http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/j5q85mmi6ujvjtii5s1n3li5io%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics Plug: [This will only give you a partial for PLUG. :-( ] http://plug.phoenix.az.us/event/ical MatthewMPP --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
How to properly re-establish users after a reinstall?
A question about how to properly re-establish the two users that I had prior to reinstalling my Linux operating system (only the OS in the / partition)? I had to reinstall because when I tried to install Virtual Box, it screwed up my system and caused X to no longer work. I could get to the command line, but could not startx. So, I used the live CD that I had initially used to re-install just the / portion that I had previously installed on /dev/hda5, and I reformatted only that / partition but I *did not* reformat the /home partition that was on /dev/hda7. In my original installation, I had created two users: /home/joe and /home/patti. The reinstall process required a user other than root to be created, so I created user patti (because she had nothing crucial to be protect), but I did not create a new user joe. The reinstallation went fine and X was restored; and when I examined the results from the command line, I found all of my original user files were preserved (curiously in /home/joe/joe) even though I did not create a new user joe. But here's the confusion: I now have two patti directories. One in /home/patti and another in /home/joe/patti. $ df shows the following file system: FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda5 3.9G 875M 2.8G 24% / /dev/hda1 10G 4.3G 5.8G 43% /mnt/win_c /dev/hda7 7.7G 1.6G 6.2G 20% /home/joe So, my question is, can I just move /home/joe/patti to /home/patti? And then create a new user joe and move the old /home/joe/joe to /home/joe? Or is there something different I need to do to make sure that I don't create problems? FWIW, I uploaded a survey of the newly reinstalled system's files at this link: http://www.upquick.com/view/t40.pdf j...@actionline.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RE: Oracle buys Sun!
Larry Ellison, Oracle's chief executive, in a conference call described Java as the single most important software asset we have ever acquired. so Java is probably safe, sun hardware and OS will likely get a boost, and MySQL is likely to be spun off as a pure community project with corporate support. But this is just my guess. I do not see this as a bad thing. Also remember that while Oracle (which is a really good DB by the way) is Oracles flagship product they are trying to go the IBM route of service company. So far they have retained the worst parts of their acquisitions culture so I am not sure how well it will work in the long run, but they are a juggernaut rite now. _ From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of James Mcphee Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:53 AM To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Subject: Oracle buys Sun! It was just announced that Oracle is buying Sun. This is not a drill. How is this going to play out for Java and MySQL? -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: How to properly re-establish users after a reinstall?
On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 18:40 -0700, Josef Lowder wrote: A question about how to properly re-establish the two users that I had prior to reinstalling my Linux operating system (only the OS in the / partition)? I had to reinstall because when I tried to install Virtual Box, it screwed up my system and caused X to no longer work. I could get to the command line, but could not startx. So, I used the live CD that I had initially used to re-install just the / portion that I had previously installed on /dev/hda5, and I reformatted only that / partition but I *did not* reformat the /home partition that was on /dev/hda7. In my original installation, I had created two users: /home/joe and /home/patti. The reinstall process required a user other than root to be created, so I created user patti (because she had nothing crucial to be protect), but I did not create a new user joe. The reinstallation went fine and X was restored; and when I examined the results from the command line, I found all of my original user files were preserved (curiously in /home/joe/joe) even though I did not create a new user joe. But here's the confusion: I now have two patti directories. One in /home/patti and another in /home/joe/patti. $ df shows the following file system: FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda5 3.9G 875M 2.8G 24% / /dev/hda1 10G 4.3G 5.8G 43% /mnt/win_c /dev/hda7 7.7G 1.6G 6.2G 20% /home/joe So, my question is, can I just move /home/joe/patti to /home/patti? And then create a new user joe and move the old /home/joe/joe to /home/joe? Or is there something different I need to do to make sure that I don't create problems? FWIW, I uploaded a survey of the newly reinstalled system's files at this link: http://www.upquick.com/view/t40.pdf it appears that you have mounted /dev/hda7 as /home/joe rather than just /home if you haven't created anything else (i.e., users, in /home, you could probably just change the mount point in /etc/fstab and 'umount /home/joe' and 'mount -a' and everything would be fixed. You would of course want users named joe and patti and if you haven't already created them, you could figure out which uid number they had previously... ls -ldn /home/joe/* and their user group numbers from your old system should be displayed. Then you could create them again with a 'useradd' command like, useradd -u 501(or ??) -g 501(or ??) type 'useradd --help' for information. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: How to properly re-establish users after a reinstall?
Thanks Craig. I can't imagine how this could have come about as I know that hda7 was originally specified as just /home But I really appreciate your response and guidance. On 4/20/09, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: it appears that you have mounted /dev/hda7 as /home/joe rather than just /home if you haven't created anything else (i.e., users, in /home, you could probably just change the mount point in /etc/fstab and 'umount /home/joe' and 'mount -a' and everything would be fixed. You would of course want users named joe and patti and if you haven't already created them, you could figure out which uid number they had previously... ls -ldn /home/joe/* and their user group numbers from your old system should be displayed. Then you could create them again with a 'useradd' command like, useradd -u 501(or ??) -g 501(or ??) type 'useradd --help' for information. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Apache basic authentication not working
Alan: ---[begin viewvc.conf]--- ScriptAlias /viewvc /var/www/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi ScriptAlias /query /var/www/cgi-bin/query.cgi Alias /viewvc-static /var/www/viewvc Directory /var/www/viewvc AuthType Basic AuthName Subversion ID AuthUserFile /etc/svn-auth-file Require valid-user Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory # The cgi-bin needs to evaluated for security also like the Directory directive above. Directory /var/www/cgi-bin Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory Location /viewcvs AuthType Basic AuthName Subversion ID AuthUserFile /etc/svn-auth-file Require valid-user /Location Location /query AuthType Basic AuthName Subversion ID AuthUserFile /etc/svn-auth-file Require valid-user /Location ---[end viewvc.conf]--- References: http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/PasswordBasicAuth http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/programs/htpasswd.html Run her with these changes and respond with the Apachectl error message: apachectl -f /etc/httpd/conf/httpd-testing.conf Call me when you are implementing it and we can hash it out real quick. On 4/20/09, Alan Dayley ala...@consultpros.com wrote: We are using the ViewVC tool[1] as a web interface for browsing CVS and Subversion repositories. Been working wonderfully for a long time. Recently we wanted to limit the access to browse the source. We want to do this with Apache's basic authentication capability. All a great plan. On Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 the configuration of Apache is controlled by configuration files in /etc/httpd/conf.d. Every file in that directory whose name ends in .conf is read as an Apache configuration file. For example, our server has files like apcupsd.conf perl.conf ssl.conf twiki.conf and so on. All of them are read in alphabetical order and concatenate to make the Apache configuration. The viewvc.conf file is shown below. The attempt is to require a user password for all access to ViewVC. The authentication points at the user file for Subversion so if you have Subversion access, you have repository browsing access. The user file works fine for Subversion as defined in a separate subversion.conf file. The painful part is that the configuration does not work. Navigating to the ViewVC URL always results in displaying the interface and information. Apache never asks for the authentication. Here is what I have tried: - Rename the viewvc.conf file to viewvc.DISABLED, restart Apache, URL now returns 404 not found, as it should - Edit viewvc.conf to put an invalid directive in the Location block, restart Apache, Apache fails to start because of a configuration error. This proves that the viewvc.conf file is being read. - Navigated to the URL using MS Internet Explorer, which I normally never use. The page loads normally without asking for a password proving it is not a browser caching issue with Firefox. So the file is being read but it is not working at all. Do any of you see something obviously wrong with the viewvc.conf contents below? Do you have any other things I could try? ---[begin viewvc.conf]--- ScriptAlias /viewvc /var/www/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi ScriptAlias /query /var/www/cgi-bin/query.cgi Alias /viewvc-static /var/www/viewvc Directory /var/www/viewvc Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory Directory /var/www/cgi-bin Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory Location /viewcvs AuthType Basic AuthName Subversion ID AuthUserFile /etc/svn-auth-file Require valid-user /Location Location /query AuthType Basic AuthName Subversion ID AuthUserFile /etc/svn-auth-file Require valid-user /Location ---[end viewvc.conf]--- Alan [1]http://viewvc.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectHome --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- www.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 Contradictions do not exist. A. Rand --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Oracle buys Sun!
They just didn't want IBM to write SUN off at a loss - since their competing products with Redhat/JBOSS/Blades (can you say backplane?) are so much higher dollar ROI. A great number of enterprise web and database Oracle farms run on Sun Hardware and Sun Unix [I have built and supported them for 20 years...] Some say that XEN and other Virtualization products available in portal IBM systems (RHEL) and blades are so s-hexy as to make zfs and zones/containers laughable? I do seriously love Sun hardware howeverN1 cluster over a fine T2000 with 2450 fiber channel system is well, you have to taste one to appreciate I doubt very much if Oracle really had much of a choice. What is going to be interesting is what will happen in the way of: 1) Hardware offerings 2) Offshored/Outsourced support 3) Technology level for product base On 4/20/09, Andrew Tuna Harris t...@supertunaman.com wrote: Excerpts from James Mcphee's message of Mon Apr 20 04:52:33 -0700 2009: It was just announced that Oracle is buying Sun. This is not a drill. How is this going to play out for Java and MySQL? Why did they buy Sun? Is that all these rich people do? Hmmm... *fingertip-touching in front of own face thing* How can I get my name on Slashdot again... *yawn* Ah, hell, I'll just buy Sun. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- www.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 Contradictions do not exist. A. Rand --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: wireless problem
Sorry, The source your firmware is running has the known WPA/WPA2 encryption issues. I am fairly sure that this is not your 8.04 stack, but you might try an updated system (or a neighbors). My 8.04 behaves the same way, while my 8.10 is fine with the same settings running to the same router. Different firmware (or getting it exploited via script kiddies running DoS remote firmware hacks - causes my connection to drop. You need to get an OpenWRT or upgraded firmware for that WRTG54GL On 4/20/09, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: I'm having a problem connecting with encryption enabled. My setup is a Desktop and a Dell latitude laptop both running Ubuntu 8.04 and both running wicd (at the moment). The desktop is hard wired to the Linksys WRT54GL router. So the desktop is not involved in wireless in any way except that you use it to change settings on the router/AP. It should not be affected by any of the wireless setings including encryption. Though one might wonder why you are running wicd on the desktop if it has a wired connection to the router. If I configure the router with the web based utility and don't enable encryption I can connect and access everything on the net with no problem. As expected and I presume it is true for both machines. Though you don't say which, only the laptop should be affected so I presume that is what you are reporting. If I go back and enable wpa or wpa2 and save, the connection is dropped. Again, this should only happen on the laptop. When I try to reconnect the error message says that this network requires encryption to be enabled even though the network is detected as having wpa or wpa2 encryption. Opening advanced settings on wicd shows encryption to be enabled. I have seen where the wireless network connection needs to be deleted so it can be rediscovered in order to have it ask you for the new passphrase instead of just failing with the old settings. You might try that. So on the laptop, go into the network setup, select the wireless connection and delete it. Now let the laptop re-discover your wireless signal and it should again ask you for the passphrase. I tried entering a random string as a pass phrase when I set up the encryption Huh? While you might choose a random passphrase when you change settings on the router, you must match it exactly when you input it on the laptop there is no automatic discovery as there were with early versions of WEP. Someone stomp on this if I am mis-speaking. and also tried letting the configuration automatically do it, both with no luck. If you are talking about the easy setup software that came with the router/AP, you must be taling about doing this in Windows as I don't think Linksys provides Linux setup software. Also, even when I connect unsecured, the desktop won't connect. At this point I am beginning to look at the block wall in my back yard and wonder if I can put the router through it. Any help *greatly* appreciated. -- Bob Holtzman --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry -- www.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 Contradictions do not exist. A. Rand --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: How to properly re-establish users after a reinstall?
Looks like your /home partition was being equated as /hda7 - which makes sense. umount /dev/hda7 mkdir /home mount -t ext3 (or whatever it is) /dev/hda7 /home df -k vi /etc/passwd ls -al ~joe ls -al ~pattie You can change the mount point via /etc/fstab You can change the users home via /etc/passwd Be sure to chown/chgrp all the files to their corresponding users cd ~joe | chown -R joe:joe * cd ~pattie | chown -R pattie:pattie * On 4/20/09, Josef Lowder j...@actionline.com wrote: Thanks Craig. I can't imagine how this could have come about as I know that hda7 was originally specified as just /home But I really appreciate your response and guidance. On 4/20/09, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: it appears that you have mounted /dev/hda7 as /home/joe rather than just /home if you haven't created anything else (i.e., users, in /home, you could probably just change the mount point in /etc/fstab and 'umount /home/joe' and 'mount -a' and everything would be fixed. You would of course want users named joe and patti and if you haven't already created them, you could figure out which uid number they had previously... ls -ldn /home/joe/* and their user group numbers from your old system should be displayed. Then you could create them again with a 'useradd' command like, useradd -u 501(or ??) -g 501(or ??) type 'useradd --help' for information. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- www.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 Contradictions do not exist. A. Rand --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
