Re: Command Line Tools

[Matrix Mole]

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Matthew A Coulliette
 wrote:

> I have researched the commands and there are a
> few I could not find or understand.  I am hoping you guys will give me a
> little more direction on the following items:
>
> relabel, enableaudit, audit2allow, dig, nslookup, git, svn, cvs, scp,
> ps, aux, poe, imo, uudeview.

First thing, make sure you've executed 'man ' to get any
possible ideas regarding the programs.

I'll try to shed a little light on some of these. nslookup is part of
most distro's network tools packages (although some distro's may have
replaced it with the dig command). nslookup/dig is used to lookup up
the DNS information on a domain name/IP address. git, svn, and cvs are
tools that help with group development projects (at least, from what I
can gather of them, never used them myself since I'm not a developer).
scp is usually installed as part of openssh and is used to copy files
from one host to another via an ssh encrypted connection. ps is a
process listing tool (aux is actually flags to use with ps so that the
command is 'ps aux'). ps is very useful in tracking down what programs
are running on the system and getting the necessary process id (PID)
of the program to manipulate it as necessary (usually with kill
command).

uudeview is a binhex/base64/yEnc/uu decoder, which is the format
messages are usually posted to newsgroups in. It's not a standard
program in that every distro has it installed by default, instead
you'd have to go and download/install it yourself most of the time (or
check to see if it's listed in your distro package manager). The
website for the program can be found here:
http://www.fpx.de/fp/Software/UUDeview/

The other programs in the list above I've never heard of (although imo
may not be a progarm name at all, but instead merely the shortcut for
In My Opinion).
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Re: List of Command Line Tools

[James Mcphee]

Screen is the greatest tool EVER!!!  A CLI window manager!  I mean, DUDE!!!

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:04 PM, Bryan O'Neal
wrote:

> I'll be honest I have been reading this and going "oh yha, that is a good
> one" but I have never heard of screen until now
> http://www.manpagez.com/man/1/screen/
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Matrix
> Mole
> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 10:06 AM
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> Subject: Re: List of Command Line Tools
>
> I am surprised, with all these great command line tools that have been
> mentioned no one has yet to mention screen, an almost vital component in my
> toolbox for command line usage.
>
> Other programs I use that I don't believe I've seen mentioned:
>
> rtorrent - Torrents
> mcabber - Jabber tool (connected to gchat) uudeview - used to decode binary
> files from newgroups
>
> I've tried both tin and slrn for newsgroup reading, both work great for
> text, but for some reason seem to fail at binary newgroup usage in my
> opinion (been over a year since I used newsgroups though so couldn't say
> off
> the top of my head why now). I've found nget works great for pure binaries
> though.
>
> I've been trying to find a really good imap based command line email client
> that blends almost perfectly with gmail and it's inability to accurately
> implement imap according to the RFCs (basically something that does similar
> to thunderbird but via command line instead). I've tried mutt, but it
> generated extra emails whenever I send for some reason (they appear in my
> inbox as replies of my email for some reason, causing unnecessary clutter).
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RE: List of Command Line Tools

[Bryan O'Neal]

I'll be honest I have been reading this and going "oh yha, that is a good
one" but I have never heard of screen until now
http://www.manpagez.com/man/1/screen/ 

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Mole
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 10:06 AM
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Subject: Re: List of Command Line Tools

I am surprised, with all these great command line tools that have been
mentioned no one has yet to mention screen, an almost vital component in my
toolbox for command line usage.

Other programs I use that I don't believe I've seen mentioned:

rtorrent - Torrents
mcabber - Jabber tool (connected to gchat) uudeview - used to decode binary
files from newgroups

I've tried both tin and slrn for newsgroup reading, both work great for
text, but for some reason seem to fail at binary newgroup usage in my
opinion (been over a year since I used newsgroups though so couldn't say off
the top of my head why now). I've found nget works great for pure binaries
though.

I've been trying to find a really good imap based command line email client
that blends almost perfectly with gmail and it's inability to accurately
implement imap according to the RFCs (basically something that does similar
to thunderbird but via command line instead). I've tried mutt, but it
generated extra emails whenever I send for some reason (they appear in my
inbox as replies of my email for some reason, causing unnecessary clutter).
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Command Line Tools

[Matthew A Coulliette]

Hi all,

Recently, I posted a reply to "Yet Another PGP Test..." which I had
intended to be a new thread.  The subject on the reply was "List of
Command Line Tools".  I would like to thank everyone for posting the
commands that they use.  I have researched the commands and there are a
few I could not find or understand.  I am hoping you guys will give me a
little more direction on the following items:

relabel, enableaudit, audit2allow, dig, nslookup, git, svn, cvs, scp,
ps, aux, poe, imo, uudeview.

Some commands seem to be out-of-date:

growisofs=>dvd+rw-tools
mkisofs=>genisoimage
cdrecord=>wodim
dvdrecord=>wodim

Thanks. - MatthewMPP


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Re: OT: Most fun in Arizona?

[keith smith]

Nice List!


Keith Smith


--- On Mon, 5/18/09, Josef Lowder  wrote:

> From: Josef Lowder 
> Subject: Re: OT: Most fun in Arizona?
> To: "Plug" 
> Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 3:40 PM
> On 5/16/09, Josef Lowder wrote:
> > What are the most fun things to do in Arizona?
> 
> A few days ago, I ask this question, and I received
> more than 20 very helpful responses.
> 
> Thanks to everyone who contributed suggestions.
> 
> I've attempted to consolidate the lists somewhat
> and added some items from various other sources,
> the preliminary results of which can be viewed at this
> link:
> 
> http://www.UpQuick.com/fun/az2do.txt
> 
> Hope to further improve this list, add-to-it, eliminate
> duplications, include more URL links, location info, etc.
> But it's a start.
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OT: Re: HTTP Access Logging and apology to Hans

[Lisa Kachold]

Hans is not a celebrity, but acts like one,  so I am sure neither of you
could do anything to rattle his cool demeaner.

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Bob Elzer  wrote:

>  I was trying to be funny, hence the LOL
>
> If it wasn't taken that way I apologize.
>
>
>  --
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> *Sent:* Monday, May 18, 2009 4:11 PM
> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
> *Subject:* Re: HTTP Access Logging and apology to Hans
>
> that sounds mean, BOB. If you were trying to sound funny it didn't work.
>
> further:
>
> Hans, I re-read my comment concerning the picture and asking if that was
> you and realized it might be misconstrued as an insult. I did not mean it
> that way. Sorry.
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 3:53 PM, keith smith wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your kindness!
>>
>> 
>> Keith Smith
>>
>>
>> --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Craig White  wrote:
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>> > From: Craig White 
>> > Subject: Re: HTTP Access Logging
>> > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
>> > Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 12:50 PM
>>  > On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 11:23 -0700,
>> > keith smith wrote:
>> > > Sorry for the confusion.  I was thinking it was
>> > June not may.  Everything is there.  Silly me!
>> > 
>> > it feels like June outside
>> >
>> > Craig
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RE: HTTP Access Logging and apology to Hans

[Bob Elzer]

I was trying to be funny, hence the LOL
 
If it wasn't taken that way I apologize.
 

  _  

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that sounds mean, BOB. If you were trying to sound funny it didn't work.

further:

Hans, I re-read my comment concerning the picture and asking if that was you
and realized it might be misconstrued as an insult. I did not mean it that
way. Sorry.


On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 3:53 PM, keith smith  wrote:




Thanks for your kindness!


Keith Smith


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> From: Craig White 

> Subject: Re: HTTP Access Logging

> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
> Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 12:50 PM

> On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 11:23 -0700,
> keith smith wrote:
> > Sorry for the confusion.  I was thinking it was
> June not may.  Everything is there.  Silly me!
> 
> it feels like June outside
>
> Craig
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Re: Wireless connection problem

[Robert Holtzman]

On Sun, 17 May 2009, Lisa Kachold wrote:

> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Robert Holtzman  wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 17 May 2009, Josef Lowder wrote:
>>
>> ..snip...
>>
>>>
>>> In the control center network center, the qwest3856 SSID shows up with
>>> 5-bars signal strength, Managed operating mode, and wep-manual 40/64
>>> bit (10 characters) encryption.  But when I try to connect, it says
>>> "cannot connect."  I reconfigured the router to "no privacy" and can
>>> connect, but I cannot connect with wep security.
>>
>> I have the same problem running Ubuntu Hardy and a Linksys WRT54GL
>> router. If you get it resolved please post the solution as I have been
>> going around and around with the problem for over a month.
>>
>>
> This is the type of technical information anyone needs to help you:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/183619
>
> What is your patch version, driver, hardware, logs, etc?

I ran thru most of this under a thread from mid April called "the 
infamous linux wifi monster strikes" including a lot of the information 
required. A number of people were quite helpful but I had to break off
with no final resolution when I got called out of town. Later this week
or early next I'll have time to readdress the problem and I'll resupply 
the information.

Thanks for the reply.

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OT: Facebook in English (Pirate)

[Ryan Rix]

Hi,

Didn't know if anyone knows about this (Tuna does) but Facebook lists
English (Pirate) as a supported language
http://twitter.com/phrkonaleash/status/1841770685

More awesome than Google's Klingon and Bork Bork bork simply because it
affects the ENTIRE site except third party applications (even the Java photo
uploader usese it. :)

Ye matey,
Ryan

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Re: OT: [Computerworld:] "Cisco takes aim at WiMax"

[Joseph Sinclair]

There are some substantial differences between WiMax and WiFi.
The Muni WiFi nets are about providing 802.11 throughout an area. Considering 
the limited range of the 2.4GHz band used, it's fairly difficult and there tend 
to be a lot of small dead zones.
WiMax is a wide-area technology in a completely different (and fully licensed) 
band.  WiMax placements cannot be done by consumers because you have to pay a 
lot of money for the location-specific license and meet FCC siting 
requirements.  ClearWire holds most (about $3 billion worth transferred from 
Sprint) of the WiMax licenses in the US.
WiMax is more of a competitor to 3G cellular. Some have put it forward as the 
4G cellular standard, but it's not clear what will happen there, since Sprint 
and Intel prefer WiMax, but NGMN chose LTE, and many carriers don't care which 
is used, as long as everyone uses the same radio standard.

The Cisco thing is about providing the base-station equipment to ClearWire and 
offering a Linksys box for WiMax-to-WiFi similar to routers already available 
from various competitors for 3G-cellular-to-WiFi.

Hope that helps.


Mike Schwartz wrote:
> This link:
> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=339523&source=CWNLE_nlt_thisweek_2009-05-18
> 
> points to an article ("Cisco takes aim at WiMax") from Computerworld.
> Does this relate to this old thread? :
> http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us/lurker/message/20080225.172251.1ee32f7a.en.html
> [OT: (is this OT?) ["Tempe ... isn't alone"] www.computerworld.com on
> municipal wifi woes]
> or, is my ignorance about the term [WiMax] even more than I thought?
> "see also": this other old post:
> http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us/lurker/message/20080324.232746.84d13a21.en.html
> [Re: OT: (is this OT?) udpate - [news item: "Sebastopol"] (was: Re: [...]
> municipal wifi woes)]
> (including, the link it has, to a NY Times story...)
> 
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Re: OT: [Computerworld:] "Cisco takes aim at WiMax"

[Joshua Zeidner]

 its that old WiMax chestnut again...  :)

 -jmz

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Mike Schwartz  wrote:
> This link:
> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=339523&source=CWNLE_nlt_thisweek_2009-05-18
> points to an article ("Cisco takes aim at WiMax") from Computerworld.
> Does this relate to this old thread? :
> http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us/lurker/message/20080225.172251.1ee32f7a.en.html
> [OT: (is this OT?) ["Tempe ... isn't alone"] www.computerworld.com on
> municipal wifi woes]
> or, is my ignorance about the term [WiMax] even more than I thought?
> "see also": this other old post:
> http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us/lurker/message/20080324.232746.84d13a21.en.html
> [Re: OT: (is this OT?) udpate - [news item: "Sebastopol"] (was: Re: [...]
> municipal wifi woes)]
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Re: OT: [Computerworld:] "Cisco takes aim at WiMax"

[Lisa Kachold]

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Mike Schwartz  wrote:

> This link:
>
> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=339523&source=CWNLE_nlt_thisweek_2009-05-18
>
> points to an article ("Cisco takes aim at WiMax") from Computerworld.
> Does this relate to this old thread? :
>
> http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us/lurker/message/20080225.172251.1ee32f7a.en.html
> [OT: (is this OT?) ["Tempe ... isn't alone"] www.computerworld.com on
> municipal wifi woes]
> or, is my ignorance about the term [WiMax] even more than I thought?
> "see also": this other old post:
>
> http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us/lurker/message/20080324.232746.84d13a21.en.html
> [Re: OT: (is this OT?) udpate - [news item: "Sebastopol"] (was: Re: [...]
> municipal wifi woes)]
> (including, the link it has, to a NY Times story...)
> --
>

Yes, this is a subject for discussion, however, might not be linux specific,
really.  But it is something for the PLUG open source politicos?

The whole discussion of where the cable/telco's are going with regards to
providing information access bandwidth seems to be as varied as political
ideologies.  Sure, it could be managed in a non-profit way, and various
muni's have big WiFi.  I believe  Microsoft's investment is a new technology
that expands on airwaves opened recently.  One of the big technologies to
watch is expected to be National WiFi/WiMax.

There is expected to be strong competition between the phone companies and
any big wireless breakthrough.  In Europe they are less controlled with
regards to Voip packet traffic access than America, but the new G2 phones
(and the old G1 T-Mobile Hotspot Google phones running the Android system)
also provide free Wifi that actually works to automatically provide free
Internet services without paying airtime.

In 2003, I put in a private enterprise Nomadix in Produce Row in Portland
that covered nearly half of the whole SE/Downtown area, which did a http
request to ElevenWireless who handled all the billing.  It WAS VERY
PROFITABLE in the bars/coffee shops and uber renewed industrial artists
lofts.  But of course, everyone has tried to use the ASU systems (didn't
work for me)?


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ot Rain

[mike havens]

This is quite the welcome change since moving  it rains here. It  seems
hurricane season is early this year. (heard that on the radio this morning)

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Re: HTTP Access Logging and apology to Hans

[mike havens]

that sounds mean, BOB. If you were trying to sound funny it didn't work.

further:

Hans, I re-read my comment concerning the picture and asking if that was you
and realized it might be misconstrued as an insult. I did not mean it that
way. Sorry.

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 3:53 PM, keith smith  wrote:

>
>
> Thanks for your kindness!
>
> 
> Keith Smith
>
>
> --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Craig White  wrote:
>
> > From: Craig White 
> > Subject: Re: HTTP Access Logging
> > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
> > Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 12:50 PM
> > On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 11:23 -0700,
> > keith smith wrote:
> > > Sorry for the confusion.  I was thinking it was
> > June not may.  Everything is there.  Silly me!
> > 
> > it feels like June outside
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
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Re: OT: Most fun in Arizona?

[Josef Lowder]

On 5/16/09, Josef Lowder wrote:
> What are the most fun things to do in Arizona?

A few days ago, I ask this question, and I received
more than 20 very helpful responses.

Thanks to everyone who contributed suggestions.

I've attempted to consolidate the lists somewhat
and added some items from various other sources,
the preliminary results of which can be viewed at this link:

http://www.UpQuick.com/fun/az2do.txt

Hope to further improve this list, add-to-it, eliminate
duplications, include more URL links, location info, etc.
But it's a start.
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semi ot joke at windows expense

[Stephen]

Q why does windows crash so often.

A it is attempting to do the honorable thing and commit seppiku for a
failure to be a competent operating system.

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Re: Migrating from Outlook to Evolution

[Chris Gehlker]

On May 18, 2009, at 1:21 PM, Stephen wrote:

> well the imap solution would have been my suggestion as well.

I think I found the solution.

If this doesn't work, gmail sync is a great solution. Turns out I can  
migrate the contacts as vCards.

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OT: [Computerworld:] "Cisco takes aim at WiMax"

[Mike Schwartz]

This link:
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=339523&source=CWNLE_nlt_thisweek_2009-05-18

points to an article ("Cisco takes aim at WiMax") from Computerworld.
Does this relate to this old thread? :
http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us/lurker/message/20080225.172251.1ee32f7a.en.html
[OT: (is this OT?) ["Tempe ... isn't alone"] www.computerworld.com on
municipal wifi woes]
or, is my ignorance about the term [WiMax] even more than I thought?
"see also": this other old post:
http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us/lurker/message/20080324.232746.84d13a21.en.html
[Re: OT: (is this OT?) udpate - [news item: "Sebastopol"] (was: Re: [...]
municipal wifi woes)]
(including, the link it has, to a NY Times story...)
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Re: Migrating from Outlook to Evolution

[Stephen]

well the imap solution would have been my suggestion as well.

I know you can get Google sync and sync his contacts with a gmail
account, also handy to sync the email on the same acct if they create
a new one.

i cannot remember if Google will sync with evolution however.

Alternatively you use the IMAP fro the email store and you use a CSV
export for contacts.. then edit the resulting spreadsheet and then
import.

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Chris Gehlker  wrote:
> On May 18, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:
>
>> If you set up an IMAP server, you can simply use Outlook to move the
>> messages out of the local pst file into the IMAP store. Then you can
>> access the email from any IMAP client (including Blackberry).
>>
>> Probably not the solution you're looking for though. :( And that does
>> nothing about contacts, etc.
>
> Thanks for the reply. Not moving the address book is a big issue. I
> got a screenshot of his folder hierarchy and it's pretty simple so the
> T-Bird method looks very doable.
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RE: Access Log Times

[Bob Elzer]

I'm assuming you're in the Phoenix area or the machine is or was.

The time is 13:80 or 1:18pm local time (mst) that's that the -0700 means -7
hours from GMT

 

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Hi All,

Thanks for understanding of my missed date.

I'm looking in the access log and I see the date in this format
[16/May/2009:13:18:08 -0700] .

This brings up the question.

In this case is this the server time or do I need to add in the GMT offset
of 7 hours to get the time.

In other words is this actually 18:08 (6:08pm) server time or is it 11:08am
server time.

Thanks in advance.

Keith


  
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Re: Access Log Times

[Lisa Kachold]

This includes the -7 (see it says that)

I would strongly suggest that you setup a nice log server solution, so you
can see at a glance referrers, and errors, 404, etc.


On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:44 PM, keith smith  wrote:

>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Thanks for understanding of my missed date.
>
> I'm looking in the access log and I see the date in this format
> [16/May/2009:13:18:08 -0700] .
>
> This brings up the question.
>
> In this case is this the server time or do I need to add in the GMT offset
> of 7 hours to get the time.
>
> In other words is this actually 18:08 (6:08pm) server time or is it 11:08am
> server time.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Keith
>
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Re: HTTP Access Logging

[keith smith]

Thanks for your kindness!


Keith Smith


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> From: Craig White 
> Subject: Re: HTTP Access Logging
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
> Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 12:50 PM
> On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 11:23 -0700,
> keith smith wrote:
> > Sorry for the confusion.  I was thinking it was
> June not may.  Everything is there.  Silly me!
> 
> it feels like June outside
> 
> Craig
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Re: HTTP Access Logging

[Craig White]

On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 11:23 -0700, keith smith wrote:
> Sorry for the confusion.  I was thinking it was June not may.  Everything is 
> there.  Silly me!

it feels like June outside

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Re: Access Log Times

[Craig White]

On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 12:44 -0700, keith smith wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Thanks for understanding of my missed date.
> 
> I'm looking in the access log and I see the date in this format 
> [16/May/2009:13:18:08 -0700] .
> 
> This brings up the question.
> 
> In this case is this the server time or do I need to add in the GMT offset of 
> 7 hours to get the time.
> 
> In other words is this actually 18:08 (6:08pm) server time or is it 11:08am 
> server time.

log entries should be in 'localtime' which is what I believe you are
calling server time. You would add 7 hours to make it GMT time.

execute 'date' command from cli to see what the server actually uses for
localtime.

Craig


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Access Log Times

[keith smith]

Hi All,

Thanks for understanding of my missed date.

I'm looking in the access log and I see the date in this format 
[16/May/2009:13:18:08 -0700] .

This brings up the question.

In this case is this the server time or do I need to add in the GMT offset of 7 
hours to get the time.

In other words is this actually 18:08 (6:08pm) server time or is it 11:08am 
server time.

Thanks in advance.

Keith


  
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Re: HTTP Access Logging

[Lisa Kachold]

Hi!

Logging is decreed by the httpd configuration files, and can either be
included in a directory full of configuration files, configured in
httpd.conf which can be either in /etc/httpd/conf.d (/etc/httpd/conf) or
another location (which can be set during build of binary or by distro.

So from httpd.conf

#CustomLog logs/access_log common
CustomLog logs/access_log combined
#CustomLog logs/dummy-host.example.com-access_log common

So the URL is consistent with ServerRoot:
# ServerRoot: The top of the directory tree under which the server's
ServerRoot "/etc/httpd"
[r...@chipmonk android-sdk-linux_x86-1.5_r1]#



Your best bet is to setup a well customized logging format so that you
retain only the information you need.  Awstats is a fine add-on for
manipulating log data into meaningful use, which is searchable, etc.
Generally, awstats is best run on exported and mounted log data on an
adjacent server (it's a security issue).  Other logging to a mysql server
solutions for instance also have some real performance problems in real
time.

Your custom configuration can also rotate your logs or they can be called
and moved via logrotate from the /etc/logrotate.d directory but an apache
reset is required.

I prefer to manage my Apache logs from within Apache using the logformat
commands.

You can easily find your logfile location in this way:

# locate httpd.conf

# grep access_log /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf

I always copy configuration files to a backup before editing.

See http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/logs.html

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:14 AM, keith smith  wrote:

>
>
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I'm running a CentOS LAMP server and it appears that access logging has
> discontinued.
>
> I'm thinking there is a messages log file some place that might shed light
> on what or how the access logging was turned off.
>
> I've looked under /var/log and do not find what I'm looking for.  I'm not
> sure I am on the right track.
>
> This is a little beyond my area of expertise so any advise is much
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Keith
>
>
>
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RE: HTTP Access Logging

[keith smith]

Sorry!  I'm from the state of confusion this morning!!

I work out of my home and sometimes I forget what day it is or what the date 
is.  

I spend most of my time at home with my computers, cats, and wife.




Keith Smith


--- On Mon, 5/18/09, Bob Elzer  wrote:

> From: Bob Elzer 
> Subject: RE: HTTP Access Logging
> To: "'Main PLUG discussion list'" 
> Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 11:54 AM
> What planet are you from.  Are
> you sure you're on the right one.  LOL
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us]
> On Behalf Of keith
> smith
> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 11:23 AM
> To: Main PLUG discussion list
> Subject: Re: HTTP Access Logging
> 
> 
> Sorry for the confusion.  I was thinking it was June
> not may.  Everything is
> there.  Silly me!
> 
> 
> 
> Keith Smith
> 
> 
> --- On Mon, 5/18/09, keith smith 
> wrote:
> 
> > From: keith smith 
> > Subject: Re: HTTP Access Logging
> > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
> > 
> > Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 11:21 AM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Charles Jones 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Charles Jones 
> > > Subject: Re: HTTP Access Logging
> > > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
> > > 
> > > Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 11:17 AM
> > > 
> > > On 5/18/09 11:14 AM, "keith smith" 
> > > wrote:
> > > > I'm running a CentOS LAMP server and it
> appears
> > that
> > > access logging has
> > > > discontinued.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm thinking there is a messages log file
> some
> > place
> > > that might shed light on
> > > > what or how the access logging was turned
> off.
> > > > 
> > > > I've looked under /var/log and do not find
> what
> > I'm
> > > looking for.  I'm not sure
> > > > I am on the right track.
> > > 
> > > They should be in /var/log/httpd/
> > > 
> > > -Charles
> > > 
> > 
> > I looked at the access logs located at
> /var/log/httpd/.
> > 
> > I found the messages log and it stops at May
> 18th.  It appears all the 
> > logs stop at May 18th.
> > 
> > Any way I can turn logging back on?  
> > 
> > Is there any way to determine how logging was turned
> off?
> > 
> > Thanks so much.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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RE: HTTP Access Logging

[Bob Elzer]

What planet are you from.  Are you sure you're on the right one.  LOL
 

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Subject: Re: HTTP Access Logging


Sorry for the confusion.  I was thinking it was June not may.  Everything is
there.  Silly me!



Keith Smith


--- On Mon, 5/18/09, keith smith  wrote:

> From: keith smith 
> Subject: Re: HTTP Access Logging
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
> 
> Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 11:21 AM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Charles Jones 
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Charles Jones 
> > Subject: Re: HTTP Access Logging
> > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
> > 
> > Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 11:17 AM
> > 
> > On 5/18/09 11:14 AM, "keith smith" 
> > wrote:
> > > I'm running a CentOS LAMP server and it appears
> that
> > access logging has
> > > discontinued.
> > > 
> > > I'm thinking there is a messages log file some
> place
> > that might shed light on
> > > what or how the access logging was turned off.
> > > 
> > > I've looked under /var/log and do not find what
> I'm
> > looking for.  I'm not sure
> > > I am on the right track.
> > 
> > They should be in /var/log/httpd/
> > 
> > -Charles
> > 
> 
> I looked at the access logs located at /var/log/httpd/.
> 
> I found the messages log and it stops at May 18th.  It appears all the 
> logs stop at May 18th.
> 
> Any way I can turn logging back on?  
> 
> Is there any way to determine how logging was turned off?
> 
> Thanks so much.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Migrating from Outlook to Evolution

[Chris Gehlker]

On May 18, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:

> If you set up an IMAP server, you can simply use Outlook to move the
> messages out of the local pst file into the IMAP store. Then you can
> access the email from any IMAP client (including Blackberry).
>
> Probably not the solution you're looking for though. :( And that does
> nothing about contacts, etc.

Thanks for the reply. Not moving the address book is a big issue. I  
got a screenshot of his folder hierarchy and it's pretty simple so the  
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Re: HTTP Access Logging

[keith smith]

Sorry for the confusion.  I was thinking it was June not may.  Everything is 
there.  Silly me!



Keith Smith


--- On Mon, 5/18/09, keith smith  wrote:

> From: keith smith 
> Subject: Re: HTTP Access Logging
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
> Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 11:21 AM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Charles Jones 
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Charles Jones 
> > Subject: Re: HTTP Access Logging
> > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
> > Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 11:17 AM
> > 
> > On 5/18/09 11:14 AM, "keith smith" 
> > wrote:
> > > I'm running a CentOS LAMP server and it appears
> that
> > access logging has
> > > discontinued.
> > > 
> > > I'm thinking there is a messages log file some
> place
> > that might shed light on
> > > what or how the access logging was turned off.
> > > 
> > > I've looked under /var/log and do not find what
> I'm
> > looking for.  I'm not sure
> > > I am on the right track.
> > 
> > They should be in /var/log/httpd/
> > 
> > -Charles
> > 
> 
> I looked at the access logs located at /var/log/httpd/.
> 
> I found the messages log and it stops at May 18th.  It
> appears all the logs stop at May 18th.
> 
> Any way I can turn logging back on?  
> 
> Is there any way to determine how logging was turned off?
> 
> Thanks so much.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: HTTP Access Logging

[keith smith]

--- On Mon, 5/18/09, Charles Jones  wrote:

> From: Charles Jones 
> Subject: Re: HTTP Access Logging
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
> Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 11:17 AM
> 
> On 5/18/09 11:14 AM, "keith smith" 
> wrote:
> > I'm running a CentOS LAMP server and it appears that
> access logging has
> > discontinued.
> > 
> > I'm thinking there is a messages log file some place
> that might shed light on
> > what or how the access logging was turned off.
> > 
> > I've looked under /var/log and do not find what I'm
> looking for.  I'm not sure
> > I am on the right track.
> 
> They should be in /var/log/httpd/
> 
> -Charles
> 

I looked at the access logs located at /var/log/httpd/.

I found the messages log and it stops at May 18th.  It appears all the logs 
stop at May 18th.

Any way I can turn logging back on?  

Is there any way to determine how logging was turned off?

Thanks so much.




  
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Re: HTTP Access Logging

[Charles Jones]

On 5/18/09 11:14 AM, "keith smith"  wrote:
> I'm running a CentOS LAMP server and it appears that access logging has
> discontinued.
> 
> I'm thinking there is a messages log file some place that might shed light on
> what or how the access logging was turned off.
> 
> I've looked under /var/log and do not find what I'm looking for.  I'm not sure
> I am on the right track.

They should be in /var/log/httpd/

-Charles

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HTTP Access Logging

[keith smith]

Hi Everyone,

I'm running a CentOS LAMP server and it appears that access logging has 
discontinued.

I'm thinking there is a messages log file some place that might shed light on 
what or how the access logging was turned off.

I've looked under /var/log and do not find what I'm looking for.  I'm not sure 
I am on the right track.

This is a little beyond my area of expertise so any advise is much appreciated.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Keith
 



  
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Re: Migrating from Outlook to Evolution

[Eric Shubert]

Chris Gehlker wrote:
> I'm trying to help a Linux newbie migrate his personal data from  
> Outlook to Evolution and so far the solutions I have found seem  
> unnecessarily convoluted.
> Here are the approaches I have found so far:
> 1.Install something like Thunderbird or Eudora that can import .pst  
> files and then move the mbox files to Linux. This involves re-nesting  
> all your folders.
> 2.Move the .pst file to OS X and use one of the specialized freeware  
> or shareware conversion programs. Surprisingly Entourage, The OS X  
> version of Outlook, can't read .pst files.
> 
> I suspect that if there are specialized .pst->mbox programs for OS X  
> then there are Linux versions of these programs but Google isn't being  
> helpful.
> --
> A young idea is a beautiful and a fragile thing. Attack people, not  
> ideas.
> 

If you set up an IMAP server, you can simply use Outlook to move the 
messages out of the local pst file into the IMAP store. Then you can 
access the email from any IMAP client (including Blackberry).

Probably not the solution you're looking for though. :( And that does 
nothing about contacts, etc.

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Migrating from Outlook to Evolution

[Chris Gehlker]

I'm trying to help a Linux newbie migrate his personal data from  
Outlook to Evolution and so far the solutions I have found seem  
unnecessarily convoluted.
Here are the approaches I have found so far:
1.  Install something like Thunderbird or Eudora that can import .pst  
files and then move the mbox files to Linux. This involves re-nesting  
all your folders.
2.  Move the .pst file to OS X and use one of the specialized freeware  
or shareware conversion programs. Surprisingly Entourage, The OS X  
version of Outlook, can't read .pst files.

I suspect that if there are specialized .pst->mbox programs for OS X  
then there are Linux versions of these programs but Google isn't being  
helpful.
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ideas.

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RE: Format

[Bob Elzer]

I'll make sure on my double posts, to add extra information to the first
post, and remove it from the second.

So when you read the second you'll wonder what I'm talking about.

And if you filter my posts out, I'll sign up as Leo G Carroll, aka "Topper"
and do the same.

muwhahaha


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topper_(TV_series)


-Original Message-
From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
[mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Ryan Rix
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 8:53 AM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: Format

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Stephen  wrote:
> double post as needed but expect some people to skip the second one?
>
> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Bob Elzer  wrote:
>> What are the rules on double posting ???

I'll skip the top posts from now on then...
Huh? what? Why are you posting blank messages?


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Re: Format

[Ryan Rix]

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Stephen  wrote:
> double post as needed but expect some people to skip the second one?
>
> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Bob Elzer  wrote:
>> What are the rules on double posting ???

I'll skip the top posts from now on then...
Huh? what? Why are you posting blank messages?


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Sheffey - Class of 2009, Rest in peace.
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Re: Yet Another PGP Test...

[Ryan Rix]

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Tuna  wrote:
> That's where all my email are belong to there.

wtf?

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Re: Format

[Stephen]

double post as needed but expect some people to skip the second one?

On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Bob Elzer  wrote:
> What are the rules on double posting ???
> 
> From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Ryan Rix
> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 4:09 PM
> To: Main PLUG discussion list
> Subject: Re: Format
>
> PLUGaz, Free as in "I can top OR bottom post!"
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Lisa Kachold 
> wrote:
>>
>> Again,
>>
>> Posting format like much of PLUG, is not decreed by rule for a reason.
>
>
> PLUGaz, Free as in "I can top AND/OR bottom post!"
>
> --
> Thanks and best regards,
> Ryan Rix
> TamsPalm - The PalmOS Blog
> (623)-239-1103 <-- Grand Central, baby!
>
> Jasmine Bowden - Class of 2009, Marc Rasmussen - Class of 2008, Erica
> Sheffey - Class of 2009, Rest in peace.
>
> What are the rules on double posting ???
>
>
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