Re: panic

2011-11-28 Thread Dazed_75
Mint is derived from Ubuntu as are many distros.  There is also a version
of Mint derived directly from Debian as is Ubuntu itself.
On Nov 27, 2011 8:53 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 The reason I believe LinuxMint is Ubuntu is because durring the install of
 Mint it asks if I should install beside ubuntu or upgrade ubuntu10 to
 Ubuntu12.

 On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote:

 Linux Mint is NOT the next version of Ubuntu.  Whatever gave you that
 idea?

 Michael, do you ever try to read the pages you go to or do a simple
 search to answer your own questions?  Googling Mint 12 codecs gave the
 answer in both of the 1sr two results.  and looking at the release notes
 for the Mint 12 you downloaded shows:

 CD images

 If you install Linux Mint from the CD, you're missing some applications
 and the multimedia codecs. You can install the missing applications by
 clicking on Upgrade to the DVD edition in the welcome screen or in
 Menu-Administration. And you can install the missing codecs by clicking
 on Install Multimedia Codecs in the welcome screen or in Menu-Sound and
 Video.



 On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Okay. I got the CD to burn. It took multiple tries. Then Linux Mint
 wouldn't load on the first try. oh cool Linux Mint is the next version
 of Ubuntu! How do a download the codecs and stuff I didn't d/l because I
 could only burn a cd?

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Re: oh my goodness....

2011-11-28 Thread Stephen
Oddly i was kind of entertained by gnome 3 when i fiddled with it this morning..

But then again i was also running on about 4 hours of sleep.

On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Mark Phillips
m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote:
 Not as much as gnome 3

 On Nov 25, 2011 11:23 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 even windows7 sucks!

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Re: 32 vs 64

2011-11-28 Thread Stephen
It is 64 bit.

On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Jim March 1.jim.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Do a google search on the AMD C-50 CPU and pull up AMD's spec sheet.  Odds
 are vastly in favor of it being 64.
 On Nov 25, 2011 2:23 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 how do I tell if I have a 32 bit system or a 64 bit?

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Re: I'm trying to install LinuxMint

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Havens
yes. internet is present on my system.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Jim March 1.jim.ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 or something like that (quoting you) means we can't google for an
 answer.  Neither can you.  So...dude, you really need to step up your
 game here, write down exact error messages, and if you can't find
 anything googling at least we can.

 Sigh.

 Look...I just now got Mint12 running myself, using the
 whole-disk-encryption process at:

 http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/344

 ...and that's harder than the standard install - you REALLY need to
 pay attention and not do a reboot when the Mint installer wants you
 to, you have to let the script work in the terminal.

 One thing about the Mint install that's different from Ubuntu: it
 wants to do the latest updates as part of the install, so it wants a
 real Internet connection while you're doing the LiveCD.  In my case
 that's a bit of a pain as my WiFi card needs firmware (Broadcom 4312)
 and hence can't work in LiveCD.  So I end up taking my Android phone
 (HTC G2), setting it up to use my normal WiFi hotspot, doing tethering
 off that to USB - basically using my phone as a USB WiFi card :).
 That got me started, then using that I downloaded the WiFi firmware I
 needed.

 So...do you have a working Internet connection while on the Mint12 LiveCD?

 Jim

 On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
  Well, I tried Ubuntu 11.10 but when I am running of the battery it
 craashes.
  So I was told to try LinuxMint. I download it and it runs fine from the
 CD
  but when I'm trying to install it it hangs  towards the end when it
 tells me
  it is 'restoring previously installed software' (or something like that).
  What to do... oh what to do! Any advice?
 
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Re: sleep mode

2011-11-28 Thread Stephen
Every time i put Linux on a Laptop/netbook i have taken to using this tool

http://sourceforge.net/projects/jupiter/

took a default Ubuntu 10.10 on my e6510 (i7 with a quatro 3100) from
2.5 hours to 4-5 hours use time.

and kept it rather useable and peppy.

Jupiter is a rather nice set of power management settings and
management interface.

On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 Coffee!

 On Nov 25, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 how can I get the OS not to fall asleep?

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Re: Before I blow windows away....

2011-11-28 Thread Stephen
In the future, if you have a need to backup an OS for possible later
use i suggest looking at clonezilla. it will back up to Internal
drive, usb, nfs, smb, or ftp and it uses dd to make a low level backup
of your drive and partclone to map your partition layout and will do
just about every Os i have run into including mac.

An its not Microsoft, its the OEM vendors not shipping media, you can
order replacement media usually for 10-20 bux to cover SH ect if you
grumble enough they will sometimes just send it to you. and even then
your 50/50 odds at getting restore media as opposed to install media.

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I didn't care to keep windows. I blew it away!

 On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
 wrote:

 Win 7 works just fine as a dual boot with Debian. It also plays very well
 in VMPlayer with Debian as the host.
 Mark

 On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Charles Lewton clewto...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Michael,

 If you have enough disk space, dual boot is a good option.  Or does 7
 not like dual boot?

 Chuck

 On 11/25/11, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
  Before I blow windows away I think I should make a copy of the hard
  drive
  in case I need to re-install it. How do I do that  and can I back up
  the
  boot sector as well? I'll be backing up to a cd. Would I use dd?
 
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Re: Errors in Kubuntu or Kate

2011-11-28 Thread Stephen
Ubuntu and its derivatives have specifically limited X so that it
cannot be run as root, only as a user.

This is why it complains, other distros that allow x to run as root
are the ones who don't complain because it can spawn root X elements.

this is done as a security choice.

IT wreaks unholy hell with an installer we use at work to install our
software because it wont work unless it runs as root. so that limits
what distros we can even hope to install on. but as it does work on
the one we do support development is happy.

On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote:
 ROFL !!!  One of the things I have always disliked about KDE is the
 insistence that that jave to roll their own packages and name them with an
 initial k or kde.  I am sure there is sometimes a reason to do that but with
 sudo?  I hardly think there could be a real reason.  Of course, I have not
 yet hit my limit of being wrong 100 times yet today.

 On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:13 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Agreed.  Maybe kdesudo would play happier.  But goofy stuff like that is
 why I decided to switch away from kde.

 On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote:

 Of course.  And I did ignore it.  However, sudo does not give those kinds
 of errors in other distros and derivatives where I have used it.  Kind of
 silly to give errors saying we know what you are doing and while it is
 perfectly legitimate and the purpose of using sudo, we just thought we would
 complain and possibly confuse you.  :)

 On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:05 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote:

 You're running a kde app as root, that's what the sudo thing does.  It
 tries to connect to your kde session and notices that it's owned by you and
 not the UID of the process you're launching, and complains.  If it works, I
 say ignore it.

 On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone know why these errors would occur from trying to edit a system
 file in Kubuntu 11.10 using Kate?

 larry@hammerhead:~$ sudo kate /etc/lsb-release
 Error: /var/tmp/kdecache-larry is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid
 0.
 Error: /tmp/kde-larry is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
 Error: /tmp/ksocket-larry is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
 kdeinit4: Shutting down running client.
 Connecting to deprecated signal
 QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString)
 Error: /tmp/ksocket-larry is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
 Error: /tmp/kde-larry is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
 Error: /var/tmp/kdecache-larry is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid
 0.
 kbuildsycoca4 running...
 Error: /var/tmp/kdecache-larry is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid
 0.
 Error: /var/tmp/kdecache-larry is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid
 0.
 Error: /tmp/kde-larry is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid
 0.

 larry@hammerhead:~$

 Kate ran and the edit did work BTW
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Re: left while downloading

2011-11-28 Thread Stephen
It is why 90% of all downloads have md5 sums or something similar, to
make sure your DL is good.

verify, if bad DL again.

On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Thomas Cameron
thomas.came...@camerontech.com wrote:
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 On 11/27/2011 09:09 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
 I was downloading a program and I stepped out for a moment. Well, when
 I returned the machine was asleep. When I woke the machine up I
 discovered the download was complete. Is the download good or should I
 do it again?

 More than likely, the download site should have an md5sum or sha256sum.
 Check your download against it.

 Thomas
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Re: I'm trying to install LinuxMint

2011-11-28 Thread Stephen
The other point of note, do not install on battery, this is generally
a no no as it will do some CPU intensive things in addition to the
DC/HDD access and none of it with any power management to speak of.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 yes. internet is present on my system.

 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Jim March 1.jim.ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 or something like that (quoting you) means we can't google for an
 answer.  Neither can you.  So...dude, you really need to step up your
 game here, write down exact error messages, and if you can't find
 anything googling at least we can.

 Sigh.

 Look...I just now got Mint12 running myself, using the
 whole-disk-encryption process at:

 http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/344

 ...and that's harder than the standard install - you REALLY need to
 pay attention and not do a reboot when the Mint installer wants you
 to, you have to let the script work in the terminal.

 One thing about the Mint install that's different from Ubuntu: it
 wants to do the latest updates as part of the install, so it wants a
 real Internet connection while you're doing the LiveCD.  In my case
 that's a bit of a pain as my WiFi card needs firmware (Broadcom 4312)
 and hence can't work in LiveCD.  So I end up taking my Android phone
 (HTC G2), setting it up to use my normal WiFi hotspot, doing tethering
 off that to USB - basically using my phone as a USB WiFi card :).
 That got me started, then using that I downloaded the WiFi firmware I
 needed.

 So...do you have a working Internet connection while on the Mint12 LiveCD?

 Jim

 On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
  Well, I tried Ubuntu 11.10 but when I am running of the battery it
  craashes.
  So I was told to try LinuxMint. I download it and it runs fine from the
  CD
  but when I'm trying to install it it hangs  towards the end when it
  tells me
  it is 'restoring previously installed software' (or something like
  that).
  What to do... oh what to do! Any advice?
 
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md5sum

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Havens
there is a file on the CD titled 5d5sum.txt
is this the file I look at to see if the md5sum is correct? Which one would
I compare?  Would it be possible to compare the numeral before the cd is
burned?

This is the contents of md5sum.txt:
5a93a111efeb5305075c5e077715b6cd  ./install/sbm.bin
f4bb8675b6c726f43199c55b0f95b759  ./install/mt86plus
8d6a2a045d7c0f48fe2e088f3f87b6ce  ./install/README.sbm
ed4604e47167175515efa84c847d33b2  ./isolinux/vesamenu.c32
9bc6a7a5f0da786e4f63843cc645ec18  ./isolinux/isolinux.cfg
2e00bbc97aa398fea542dde339e0fb4c  ./isolinux/memtest
e4cd8d58183b940236d395a2714d778a  ./isolinux/splash.jpg
c29b6d131ba2f870b9692c4ba07e8656  ./isolinux/gfxboot.c32
0b631486f45023d97837bada4d881ae7  ./autorun.inf
728cb968a88534e0c50a9d99621f13eb  ./.disk/cd_type
5b1a5e0e66e8e94fb03585117d05ea58  ./.disk/info
3747d022f16c7d7e304a25f775ab2ab7  ./.disk/release_notes_url
00700d3575dda0740c054f06e50485b2  ./.disk/casper-uuid-generic
4c2494545787d83142356cf8a922a96e  ./.disk/mint4win
d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e  ./.disk/base_installable
818e8b0e5e668ceda49ba075e99df762  ./casper/filesystem.manifest-desktop
0a44fae23dd89107300b6c1b2da1b8b3  ./casper/filesystem.size
a543f77dcd9352bde3843972cacffb00  ./casper/filesystem.squashfs
c5683e93a14c002efc0d8e861b9073b8  ./casper/initrd.lz
25dcd13bc472649e1308e7635bd72b91  ./casper/filesystem.manifest
fde150f5c6fd2de66ed7876efbfcc4c7  ./casper/vmlinuz
e4514c09013029f20ffed4b211147bf9  ./casper/filesystem.manifest-remove
0391854d1af5a015a667f29fa0442e78  ./preseed/ltsp.seed
0fac8373df31ebf3547bc550e7cc94c5  ./preseed/mint.seed
7e3aa6d1958baf72d369392fdb175486  ./preseed/cli.seed
91a9f4679770868e71e61fb9b09440d3  ./mint4win.exe
9efeb6b955dbb803b37cb661ef670d1d  ./boot/grub/loopback.cfg

Why are there so many md5sum?
if this is the correct file the md5 sum is incorrect.
This is what it says the md5sium is:

*Download*:

Md5 sums:

   - DVD 32-bit: ee3d6e2ca498bc7685b7f17cdb5f2eea
   - DVD 64-bit: 548f0ac303fea840ef138e5669880a74
   - CD no codecs 32-bit: 40562d26447207cb5111f94b93957a58
   - CD no codecs 64-bit: 641e0ab8f746b82c36fc3f0bbca70dc7

found at: http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1889
Is there someway to ensure it is correct?

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Re: I'm trying to install LinuxMint

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Havens
desIt won't allow me to install while running off of the battery. Well,
maybe it will but I didn't try to because I wanted all check marks  you
know where it says,they need so much space and an internet connection and
it needs to be plugged in. Besides, the computer is panicing when running
off of the battery and that is why I want to try LinuxMint.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 The other point of note, do not install on battery, this is generally
 a no no as it will do some CPU intensive things in addition to the
 DC/HDD access and none of it with any power management to speak of.

 A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from
 rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.

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Re: Errors in Kubuntu or Kate

2011-11-28 Thread Dazed_75
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ubuntu and its derivatives have specifically limited X so that it
 cannot be run as root, only as a user.

 This is why it complains, other distros that allow x to run as root
 are the ones who don't complain because it can spawn root X elements.


Except that on ubuntu it works and does not complain.  On Kubuntu, it
complained, but it worked anyway.  Ubuntu does have gksudo intended for
using sudo to run gui stuff and apparently (from another response)
Kubuntu/KDE has kdesudo.   Seems a waste to have two utilities if they both
work.  I wonder what actual difference there is that might add value to the
latter.


 this is done as a security choice.

 IT wreaks unholy hell with an installer we use at work to install our
 software because it wont work unless it runs as root. so that limits
 what distros we can even hope to install on. but as it does work on
 the one we do support development is happy.

 On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote:
  ROFL !!!  One of the things I have always disliked about KDE is the
  insistence that that jave to roll their own packages and name them with
 an
  initial k or kde.  I am sure there is sometimes a reason to do that but
 with
  sudo?  I hardly think there could be a real reason.  Of course, I have
 not
  yet hit my limit of being wrong 100 times yet today.
 
  On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:13 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Agreed.  Maybe kdesudo would play happier.  But goofy stuff like that is
  why I decided to switch away from kde.
 
  On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Of course.  And I did ignore it.  However, sudo does not give those
 kinds
  of errors in other distros and derivatives where I have used it.  Kind
 of
  silly to give errors saying we know what you are doing and while it is
  perfectly legitimate and the purpose of using sudo, we just thought we
 would
  complain and possibly confuse you.  :)
 
  On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:05 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  You're running a kde app as root, that's what the sudo thing does.  It
  tries to connect to your kde session and notices that it's owned by
 you and
  not the UID of the process you're launching, and complains.  If it
 works, I
  say ignore it.
 
  On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Anyone know why these errors would occur from trying to edit a system
  file in Kubuntu 11.10 using Kate?
 
  larry@hammerhead:~$ sudo kate /etc/lsb-release
  Error: /var/tmp/kdecache-larry is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid
  0.
  Error: /tmp/kde-larry is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
  Error: /tmp/ksocket-larry is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
  kdeinit4: Shutting down running client.
  Connecting to deprecated signal
 
 QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString)
  Error: /tmp/ksocket-larry is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
  Error: /tmp/kde-larry is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
  Error: /var/tmp/kdecache-larry is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid
  0.
  kbuildsycoca4 running...
  Error: /var/tmp/kdecache-larry is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid
  0.
  Error: /var/tmp/kdecache-larry is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid
  0.
  Error: /tmp/kde-larry is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid
  0.
 
  larry@hammerhead:~$
 
  Kate ran and the edit did work BTW
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Re: Before I blow windows away....

2011-11-28 Thread Mark Phillips
Stephen,

One caveat with clonezilla - it cannot handle a disk to disk clone if the
source has 512 byte sectors and the destination has 4096 byte sectors. Many
of the new, larger, drives use 4096 byte sectors, and this is a problem
than clonezilla has not yet addressed (I have been waiting 6 months). Their
work around is to copy an image to another storage location, then copy the
image back to the destination. However, you end up with a 4096 byte sector
hard drive formatted with 512 byte sectors, and the accompanying loss
in performance.

Mark

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 In the future, if you have a need to backup an OS for possible later
 use i suggest looking at clonezilla. it will back up to Internal
 drive, usb, nfs, smb, or ftp and it uses dd to make a low level backup
 of your drive and partclone to map your partition layout and will do
 just about every Os i have run into including mac.

 An its not Microsoft, its the OEM vendors not shipping media, you can
 order replacement media usually for 10-20 bux to cover SH ect if you
 grumble enough they will sometimes just send it to you. and even then
 your 50/50 odds at getting restore media as opposed to install media.

 On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
  I didn't care to keep windows. I blew it away!
 
  On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Mark Phillips 
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
  wrote:
 
  Win 7 works just fine as a dual boot with Debian. It also plays very
 well
  in VMPlayer with Debian as the host.
  Mark
 
  On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Charles Lewton clewto...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Michael,
 
  If you have enough disk space, dual boot is a good option.  Or does 7
  not like dual boot?
 
  Chuck
 
  On 11/25/11, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
   Before I blow windows away I think I should make a copy of the hard
   drive
   in case I need to re-install it. How do I do that  and can I back up
   the
   boot sector as well? I'll be backing up to a cd. Would I use dd?
  
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Re: md5sum

2011-11-28 Thread Kevin Fries
The install will use the md5sum on the disk.  I know with Ubuntu and
Fedora, both allow you to verify the disk.  What the verify does is
run through that file and do the MD5 sum for all the files.

To verify your download, you should be fine running the MD5 command with
the info from the webpage.  So just do this:

   $ echo 548f0ac303fea840ef138e5669880a74  my.download.file | md5sum --check

That should tell you if everything is ok

Kevin



On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 08:33 -0700, Michael Havens wrote:
 there is a file on the CD titled 5d5sum.txt
 is this the file I look at to see if the md5sum is correct? Which one
 would I compare?  Would it be possible to compare the numeral before
 the cd is burned?
 
 This is the contents of md5sum.txt:
 5a93a111efeb5305075c5e077715b6cd  ./install/sbm.bin
 f4bb8675b6c726f43199c55b0f95b759  ./install/mt86plus
 8d6a2a045d7c0f48fe2e088f3f87b6ce  ./install/README.sbm
 ed4604e47167175515efa84c847d33b2  ./isolinux/vesamenu.c32
 9bc6a7a5f0da786e4f63843cc645ec18  ./isolinux/isolinux.cfg
 2e00bbc97aa398fea542dde339e0fb4c  ./isolinux/memtest
 e4cd8d58183b940236d395a2714d778a  ./isolinux/splash.jpg
 c29b6d131ba2f870b9692c4ba07e8656  ./isolinux/gfxboot.c32
 0b631486f45023d97837bada4d881ae7  ./autorun.inf
 728cb968a88534e0c50a9d99621f13eb  ./.disk/cd_type
 5b1a5e0e66e8e94fb03585117d05ea58  ./.disk/info
 3747d022f16c7d7e304a25f775ab2ab7  ./.disk/release_notes_url
 00700d3575dda0740c054f06e50485b2  ./.disk/casper-uuid-generic
 4c2494545787d83142356cf8a922a96e  ./.disk/mint4win
 d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e  ./.disk/base_installable
 818e8b0e5e668ceda49ba075e99df762  ./casper/filesystem.manifest-desktop
 0a44fae23dd89107300b6c1b2da1b8b3  ./casper/filesystem.size
 a543f77dcd9352bde3843972cacffb00  ./casper/filesystem.squashfs
 c5683e93a14c002efc0d8e861b9073b8  ./casper/initrd.lz
 25dcd13bc472649e1308e7635bd72b91  ./casper/filesystem.manifest
 fde150f5c6fd2de66ed7876efbfcc4c7  ./casper/vmlinuz
 e4514c09013029f20ffed4b211147bf9  ./casper/filesystem.manifest-remove
 0391854d1af5a015a667f29fa0442e78  ./preseed/ltsp.seed
 0fac8373df31ebf3547bc550e7cc94c5  ./preseed/mint.seed
 7e3aa6d1958baf72d369392fdb175486  ./preseed/cli.seed
 91a9f4679770868e71e61fb9b09440d3  ./mint4win.exe
 9efeb6b955dbb803b37cb661ef670d1d  ./boot/grub/loopback.cfg
 
 Why are there so many md5sum?
 if this is the correct file the md5 sum is incorrect.
 This is what it says the md5sium is:
 
 
 Download:
 
 Md5 sums:
 
   * DVD 32-bit: ee3d6e2ca498bc7685b7f17cdb5f2eea
   * DVD 64-bit: 548f0ac303fea840ef138e5669880a74
   * CD no codecs 32-bit: 40562d26447207cb5111f94b93957a58
   * CD no codecs 64-bit: 641e0ab8f746b82c36fc3f0bbca70dc7
 found at: http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1889
 Is there someway to ensure it is correct?
 
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Re: md5sum

2011-11-28 Thread kitepi...@kitepilot.com

You can also:
cd {wherever the CD is mounted}
md5sum -c md5sum.txt
ET 





Kevin Fries writes: 


The install will use the md5sum on the disk.  I know with Ubuntu and
Fedora, both allow you to verify the disk.  What the verify does is
run through that file and do the MD5 sum for all the files. 


To verify your download, you should be fine running the MD5 command with
the info from the webpage.  So just do this: 

   $ echo 548f0ac303fea840ef138e5669880a74  my.download.file | md5sum --check 

That should tell you if everything is ok 

Kevin 

 


On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 08:33 -0700, Michael Havens wrote:

there is a file on the CD titled 5d5sum.txt
is this the file I look at to see if the md5sum is correct? Which one
would I compare?  Would it be possible to compare the numeral before
the cd is burned? 


This is the contents of md5sum.txt:
5a93a111efeb5305075c5e077715b6cd  ./install/sbm.bin
f4bb8675b6c726f43199c55b0f95b759  ./install/mt86plus
8d6a2a045d7c0f48fe2e088f3f87b6ce  ./install/README.sbm
ed4604e47167175515efa84c847d33b2  ./isolinux/vesamenu.c32
9bc6a7a5f0da786e4f63843cc645ec18  ./isolinux/isolinux.cfg
2e00bbc97aa398fea542dde339e0fb4c  ./isolinux/memtest
e4cd8d58183b940236d395a2714d778a  ./isolinux/splash.jpg
c29b6d131ba2f870b9692c4ba07e8656  ./isolinux/gfxboot.c32
0b631486f45023d97837bada4d881ae7  ./autorun.inf
728cb968a88534e0c50a9d99621f13eb  ./.disk/cd_type
5b1a5e0e66e8e94fb03585117d05ea58  ./.disk/info
3747d022f16c7d7e304a25f775ab2ab7  ./.disk/release_notes_url
00700d3575dda0740c054f06e50485b2  ./.disk/casper-uuid-generic
4c2494545787d83142356cf8a922a96e  ./.disk/mint4win
d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e  ./.disk/base_installable
818e8b0e5e668ceda49ba075e99df762  ./casper/filesystem.manifest-desktop
0a44fae23dd89107300b6c1b2da1b8b3  ./casper/filesystem.size
a543f77dcd9352bde3843972cacffb00  ./casper/filesystem.squashfs
c5683e93a14c002efc0d8e861b9073b8  ./casper/initrd.lz
25dcd13bc472649e1308e7635bd72b91  ./casper/filesystem.manifest
fde150f5c6fd2de66ed7876efbfcc4c7  ./casper/vmlinuz
e4514c09013029f20ffed4b211147bf9  ./casper/filesystem.manifest-remove
0391854d1af5a015a667f29fa0442e78  ./preseed/ltsp.seed
0fac8373df31ebf3547bc550e7cc94c5  ./preseed/mint.seed
7e3aa6d1958baf72d369392fdb175486  ./preseed/cli.seed
91a9f4679770868e71e61fb9b09440d3  ./mint4win.exe
9efeb6b955dbb803b37cb661ef670d1d  ./boot/grub/loopback.cfg 


Why are there so many md5sum?
if this is the correct file the md5 sum is incorrect.
This is what it says the md5sium is: 



Download: 

Md5 sums: 


  * DVD 32-bit: ee3d6e2ca498bc7685b7f17cdb5f2eea
  * DVD 64-bit: 548f0ac303fea840ef138e5669880a74
  * CD no codecs 32-bit: 40562d26447207cb5111f94b93957a58
  * CD no codecs 64-bit: 641e0ab8f746b82c36fc3f0bbca70dc7
found at: http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1889
Is there someway to ensure it is correct? 


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Re: md5sum

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Havens
okay I ran it on the CD. A bunch of lines of text apperom ared with the
word OK at the end. I suppose this means the check sum is good.
How do you copy text from the terminal (cntrlaltT)?

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:46 AM,d kitepi...@kitepilot.com 
kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote:

 You can also:
 cd {wherever the CD is mounted}
 md5sum -c md5sum.txt
 ET



 Kevin Fries writes:

 The install will use the md5sum on the disk.  I know with Ubuntu and
 Fedora, both allow you to verify the disk.  What the verify does is
 run through that file and do the MD5 sum for all the files.
 To verify your download, you should be fine running the MD5 command with
 the info from the webpage.  So just do this:
   $ echo **548f0ac303fea840ef138e5669880a**74  my.download.file |
 md5sum --check
 That should tell you if everything is ok
 Kevin

 On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 08:33 -0700, Michael Havens wrote:

 there is a file on the CD titled 5d5sum.txt
 is this the file I look at to see if the md5sum is correct? Which one
 would I compare?  Would it be possible to compare the numeral before
 the cd is burned?
 This is the contents of md5sum.txt:
 5a93a111efeb5305075c5e077715b6**cd  ./install/sbm.bin
 f4bb8675b6c726f43199c55b0f95b7**59  ./install/mt86plus
 8d6a2a045d7c0f48fe2e088f3f87b6**ce  ./install/README.sbm
 ed4604e47167175515efa84c847d33**b2  ./isolinux/vesamenu.c32
 9bc6a7a5f0da786e4f63843cc645ec**18  ./isolinux/isolinux.cfg
 2e00bbc97aa398fea542dde339e0fb**4c  ./isolinux/memtest
 e4cd8d58183b940236d395a2714d77**8a  ./isolinux/splash.jpg
 c29b6d131ba2f870b9692c4ba07e86**56  ./isolinux/gfxboot.c32
 0b631486f45023d97837bada4d881a**e7  ./autorun.inf
 728cb968a88534e0c50a9d99621f13**eb  ./.disk/cd_type
 5b1a5e0e66e8e94fb03585117d05ea**58  ./.disk/info
 3747d022f16c7d7e304a25f775ab2a**b7  ./.disk/release_notes_url
 00700d3575dda0740c054f06e50485**b2  ./.disk/casper-uuid-generic
 4c2494545787d83142356cf8a922a9**6e  ./.disk/mint4win
 d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf842**7e  ./.disk/base_installable
 818e8b0e5e668ceda49ba075e99df7**62  ./casper/filesystem.manifest-**
 desktop
 0a44fae23dd89107300b6c1b2da1b8**b3  ./casper/filesystem.size
 a543f77dcd9352bde3843972cacffb**00  ./casper/filesystem.squashfs
 c5683e93a14c002efc0d8e861b9073**b8  ./casper/initrd.lz
 25dcd13bc472649e1308e7635bd72b**91  ./casper/filesystem.manifest
 fde150f5c6fd2de66ed7876efbfcc4**c7  ./casper/vmlinuz
 e4514c09013029f20ffed4b211147b**f9  ./casper/filesystem.manifest-**
 remove
 0391854d1af5a015a667f29fa0442e**78  ./preseed/ltsp.seed
 0fac8373df31ebf3547bc550e7cc94**c5  ./preseed/mint.seed
 7e3aa6d1958baf72d369392fdb1754**86  ./preseed/cli.seed
 91a9f4679770868e71e61fb9b09440**d3  ./mint4win.exe
 9efeb6b955dbb803b37cb661ef670d**1d  ./boot/grub/loopback.cfg
 Why are there so many md5sum?
 if this is the correct file the md5 sum is incorrect.
 This is what it says the md5sium is:

 Download:
 Md5 sums:
  * DVD 32-bit: ee3d6e2ca498bc7685b7f17cdb5f2e**ea
  * DVD 64-bit: 548f0ac303fea840ef138e5669880a**74
  * CD no codecs 32-bit: 40562d26447207cb5111f94b93957a**58
  * CD no codecs 64-bit: 641e0ab8f746b82c36fc3f0bbca70d**c7
 found at: 
 http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=**1889http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1889
 Is there someway to ensure it is correct?
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Re: md5sum

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Havens
yeah. thats whAT i thought but I couldn't hilight the text hmmm I
just found out I have to use the button to hilight text.

On Mon, Nov I tried to do at's what 28, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Kevin Fries 
ke...@fries-biro.com wrote:

 To copy from the terminal depends on the teminal.  I am assuming the
 Ctrl-Alt-T is the Ubuntu Unity shortcut for the Gnome Terminal (I use
 Ubuntu but refuse to use Unity, I hate it and use Gnome Shell instead).

 To copy text, you have two choices:

 1. Highlight the text with your mouse, then activate the window you are
 trying to copy into and wheel click (use your mouse scroll wheel like a
 button)

 2. Highlight the text with your mouse, and use Edit-Copy and then paste
 into the program you want to copy it into.

 The other option is to run your command appended with a
 /tmp/output.txt (sans the quotes) to send all output to a temp file,
 then you can open it in gedit, or any other program you like.

 HTH
 Kevin

 On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 13:46 -0700, Michael Havens wrote:
  okay I ran it on the CD. A bunch of lines of text apperom ared
  with the word OK at the end. I suppose this means the check sum is
  good.
  How do you copy text from the terminal (cntrlaltT)?
 
  On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:46 AM,d kitepi...@kitepilot.com
  kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote:
  You can also:
  cd {wherever the CD is mounted}
  md5sum -c md5sum.txt
  ET
 
 
 
  Kevin Fries writes:
  The install will use the md5sum on the disk.  I know
  with Ubuntu and
  Fedora, both allow you to verify the disk.  What the
  verify does is
  run through that file and do the MD5 sum for all the
  files.
  To verify your download, you should be fine running
  the MD5 command with
  the info from the webpage.  So just do this:
$ echo 548f0ac303fea840ef138e5669880a74
   my.download.file | md5sum --check
  That should tell you if everything is ok
  Kevin
 
  On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 08:33 -0700, Michael Havens
  wrote:
  there is a file on the CD titled 5d5sum.txt
  is this the file I look at to see if the
  md5sum is correct? Which one
  would I compare?  Would it be possible to
  compare the numeral before
  the cd is burned?
  This is the contents of md5sum.txt:
  5a93a111efeb5305075c5e077715b6cd
   ./install/sbm.bin
  f4bb8675b6c726f43199c55b0f95b759
   ./install/mt86plus
  8d6a2a045d7c0f48fe2e088f3f87b6ce
   ./install/README.sbm
  ed4604e47167175515efa84c847d33b2
   ./isolinux/vesamenu.c32
  9bc6a7a5f0da786e4f63843cc645ec18
   ./isolinux/isolinux.cfg
  2e00bbc97aa398fea542dde339e0fb4c
   ./isolinux/memtest
  e4cd8d58183b940236d395a2714d778a
   ./isolinux/splash.jpg
  c29b6d131ba2f870b9692c4ba07e8656
   ./isolinux/gfxboot.c32
  0b631486f45023d97837bada4d881ae7
   ./autorun.inf
  728cb968a88534e0c50a9d99621f13eb
   ./.disk/cd_type
  5b1a5e0e66e8e94fb03585117d05ea58  ./.disk/info
  3747d022f16c7d7e304a25f775ab2ab7
   ./.disk/release_notes_url
  00700d3575dda0740c054f06e50485b2
   ./.disk/casper-uuid-generic
  4c2494545787d83142356cf8a922a96e
   ./.disk/mint4win
  d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e
   ./.disk/base_installable
  818e8b0e5e668ceda49ba075e99df762
   ./casper/filesystem.manifest-desktop
  0a44fae23dd89107300b6c1b2da1b8b3
   ./casper/filesystem.size
  a543f77dcd9352bde3843972cacffb00
   ./casper/filesystem.squashfs
  c5683e93a14c002efc0d8e861b9073b8
   ./casper/initrd.lz
  25dcd13bc472649e1308e7635bd72b91
   ./casper/filesystem.manifest
  fde150f5c6fd2de66ed7876efbfcc4c7
   ./casper/vmlinuz
  e4514c09013029f20ffed4b211147bf9
   

Re: md5sum

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Havens
kevin thank you for your input. Now I caN CHECK IT BEFORE I burn it.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:54 PM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com 
kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote:

 Ah...
 Regarding:

  How do you copy text from the terminal (cntrlaltT)?


 You could:
 # md5sum -c md5sum.txt 21|ssh someuser@otherbox 'cat - 
 my-log-file.txt'
 Enjoy...
 ET
 PS: If you have any question,
 you will get any answer.


 Michael Havens writes:

 okay I ran it on the CD. A bunch of lines of text apperom ared with
 the
 word OK at the end. I suppose this means the check sum is good.
 How do you copy text from the terminal (cntrlaltT)?
 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:46 AM,d kitepi...@kitepilot.com 
 kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote:

 You can also:
 cd {wherever the CD is mounted}
 md5sum -c md5sum.txt
 ET


 Kevin Fries writes:

 The install will use the md5sum on the disk.  I know with Ubuntu and
 Fedora, both allow you to verify the disk.  What the verify does is
 run through that file and do the MD5 sum for all the files.
 To verify your download, you should be fine running the MD5 command with
 the info from the webpage.  So just do this:
  $ echo 548f0ac303fea840ef138e5669880a74  my.download.file |

 md5sum --check
 That should tell you if everything is ok
 Kevin
 On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 08:33 -0700, Michael Havens wrote:

 there is a file on the CD titled 5d5sum.txt
 is this the file I look at to see if the md5sum is correct? Which one
 would I compare?  Would it be possible to compare the numeral before
 the cd is burned?
 This is the contents of md5sum.txt:
 5a93a111efeb5305075c5e077715b6cd  ./install/sbm.bin
 f4bb8675b6c726f43199c55b0f95b759  ./install/mt86plus
 8d6a2a045d7c0f48fe2e088f3f87b6ce  ./install/README.sbm
 ed4604e47167175515efa84c847d33b2  ./isolinux/vesamenu.c32
 9bc6a7a5f0da786e4f63843cc645ec18  ./isolinux/isolinux.cfg
 2e00bbc97aa398fea542dde339e0fb4c  ./isolinux/memtest
 e4cd8d58183b940236d395a2714d778a  ./isolinux/splash.jpg
 c29b6d131ba2f870b9692c4ba07e8656  ./isolinux/gfxboot.c32
 0b631486f45023d97837bada4d881ae7  ./autorun.inf
 728cb968a88534e0c50a9d99621f13eb  ./.disk/cd_type
 5b1a5e0e66e8e94fb03585117d05ea58  ./.disk/info
 3747d022f16c7d7e304a25f775ab2ab7  ./.disk/release_notes_url
 00700d3575dda0740c054f06e50485b2  ./.disk/casper-uuid-generic
 4c2494545787d83142356cf8a922a96e  ./.disk/mint4win
 d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e  ./.disk/base_installable
 818e8b0e5e668ceda49ba075e99df762  ./casper/filesystem.manifest-***
 *
 desktop
 0a44fae23dd89107300b6c1b2da1b8b3  ./casper/filesystem.size
 a543f77dcd9352bde3843972cacffb00  ./casper/filesystem.squashfs
 c5683e93a14c002efc0d8e861b9073b8  ./casper/initrd.lz
 25dcd13bc472649e1308e7635bd72b91  ./casper/filesystem.manifest
 fde150f5c6fd2de66ed7876efbfcc4c7  ./casper/vmlinuz
 e4514c09013029f20ffed4b211147bf9  ./casper/filesystem.manifest-***
 *
 remove
 0391854d1af5a015a667f29fa0442e78  ./preseed/ltsp.seed
 0fac8373df31ebf3547bc550e7cc94c5  ./preseed/mint.seed
 7e3aa6d1958baf72d369392fdb175486  ./preseed/cli.seed
 91a9f4679770868e71e61fb9b09440d3  ./mint4win.exe
 9efeb6b955dbb803b37cb661ef670d1d  ./boot/grub/loopback.cfg

 Why are there so many md5sum?
 if this is the correct file the md5 sum is incorrect.
 This is what it says the md5sium is:
 Download:
 Md5 sums:
 * DVD 32-bit: ee3d6e2ca498bc7685b7f17cdb5f2eea
 * DVD 64-bit: 548f0ac303fea840ef138e5669880a74
 * CD no codecs 32-bit: 40562d26447207cb5111f94b93957a58
 * CD no codecs 64-bit: 641e0ab8f746b82c36fc3f0bbca70dc7
 found at: 
 http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1889http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=**1889
 http://blog.linuxmint.**com/?p=1889http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1889
 

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Re: md5sum

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Havens
hm. this doesn't look good!

 bmike1@Michael-Notebook:/mnt/dvdrw$ sudo md5sum -c md5sum.txt|grep
-v
 'OK$'md5sum: ./casper/filesystem.squashfs: Input/output error
 ./casper/filesystem.squashfs: FAILED open or read
 md5sum: WARNING: 1 of 27 listed files could not be read
 bmike1@Michael-Notebook:/mnt/dvdrw$

Lets look at the other d/l I did: it seems that burn is good:

bmike1@Michael-Notebook:/mnt/dvdrw$ sudo mount /dev/dvdrw /mnt/dvdrw
mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: /dev/sr0 already mounted or /mnt/dvdrw busy
mount: according to mtab, /dev/sr0 is already mounted on /mnt/dvdrw
bmike1@Michael-Notebook:/mnt/dvdrw$ sudo md5sum -c md5sum.txt|grep -v 'OK$'
bmike1@Michael-Notebook:/mnt/dvdrw$
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Re: md5sum

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Havens
I am having difficulties ejecting the CD now. It ejected once, I switched
CDs, but now it won't. What am I doing wrong? I didn't umount the device
with the first eject but to get md5sum to run again I remounted... it
complained but then it ran again. Now I try to umount :
 bmike1@Michael-Notebook:/mnt/dvdrw$ umount dvdrw
 umount: dvdrw is not mounted (according to mtab)
 bmike1@Michael-Notebook:/mnt/dvdrw$

This happened the first time I did this and I turned the computeroff to
eject the CD.


On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 hm. this doesn't look good!

  bmike1@Michael-Notebook:/mnt/dvdrw$ sudo md5sum -c md5sum.txt|grep
 -v
  'OK$'md5sum: ./casper/filesystem.squashfs: Input/output error
  ./casper/filesystem.squashfs: FAILED open or read
  md5sum: WARNING: 1 of 27 listed files could not be read
  bmike1@Michael-Notebook:/mnt/dvdrw$

 Lets look at the other d/l I did: it seems that burn is good:

 bmike1@Michael-Notebook:/mnt/dvdrw$ sudo mount /dev/dvdrw /mnt/dvdrw
 mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
 mount: /dev/sr0 already mounted or /mnt/dvdrw busy
 mount: according to mtab, /dev/sr0 is already mounted on /mnt/dvdrw
 bmike1@Michael-Notebook:/mnt/dvdrw$ sudo md5sum -c md5sum.txt|grep -v
 'OK$'
 bmike1@Michael-Notebook:/mnt/dvdrw$
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Re: md5sum

2011-11-28 Thread Benjamin Browning
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com
wrote: I am having difficulties ejecting the CD now. It ejected once,
I switched
'eject /dev/dvdrw' might work, or at least tell you why it isn't working :)

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Re: md5sum

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Havens
Thanks Bejamin! It says the device is busy. It isn't running and the
program that was accessing it has completed. How do I figure out what
process is running on it?

 bmike1@Michael-Notebook:/mnt/dvdrw$ sudo ps -a
 [sudo] password for bmike1:
  PID TTY  TIME CMD
 2094 pts/100:00:00 man
 2105 pts/100:00:00 pager
 2197 pts/000:00:00 sudo
 2426 pts/000:00:00 ps
 bmike1@Michael-Notebook:/mnt/dvdrw$

bmike1@Michael-Notebook:/mnt/dvdrw$ eject /dev/dvdrw
Unmount failed: Cannot unmount because file system on device is busy
eject: unmount of `/media/Linux Mint 12 32-bit' failed
bmike1@Michael-Notebook:/mnt/dvdrw$


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 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com
 wrote: I am having difficulties ejecting the CD now. It ejected once,
 I switched
 'eject /dev/dvdrw' might work, or at least tell you why it isn't working :)

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Re: md5sum

2011-11-28 Thread Kevin Fries
You probably have a terminal open that has a shell whose current working
directory is on the drive.

$ cd /media/mycdrive
$ bash
$ cd /home/me

now your prompt shows you in me's home directory, but the parent shell's
pwd is on the cd drive.  This will tell you the device is busy because
the shell is open.

This is the one that gets me more times than not.

HTH
Kevin



On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 15:02 -0700, Michael Havens wrote:
 Thanks Bejamin! It says the device is busy. It isn't running and the
 program that was accessing it has completed. How do I figure out what
 process is running on it?
 
  bmike1@Michael-Notebook:/mnt/dvdrw$ sudo ps -a
  [sudo] password for bmike1: 
   PID TTY  TIME CMD
  2094 pts/100:00:00 man
  2105 pts/100:00:00 pager
  2197 pts/000:00:00 sudo
  2426 pts/000:00:00 ps
  bmike1@Michael-Notebook:/mnt/dvdrw$ 
 
 bmike1@Michael-Notebook:/mnt/dvdrw$ eject /dev/dvdrw
 Unmount failed: Cannot unmount because file system on device is busy
 eject: unmount of `/media/Linux Mint 12 32-bit' failed
 bmike1@Michael-Notebook:/mnt/dvdrw$ 
 
 
 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Benjamin Browning
 b...@bensbrowning.com wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Michael Havens
 bmi...@gmail.com
 wrote: I am having difficulties ejecting the CD now. It
 ejected once,
 I switched
 'eject /dev/dvdrw' might work, or at least tell you why it
 isn't working :)
 
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Re: md5sum

2011-11-28 Thread Matt Graham
From: Kevin Fries ke...@fries-biro.com
 You probably have a terminal open that has a shell whose current working
 directory is on the drive.

Michael wrote:
bmike1@Michael-Notebook:/mnt/dvdrw$ eject /dev/dvdrw

Where is /dev/dvdrw mounted?  Probably /mnt/dvdrw/ .  If a process (Michael's
shell) is in /mnt/dvdrw/ , then you can't umount it.  So, cd ; umount
/dev/dvdrw will probably work a lot better

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Re: md5sum

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Havens
thanks guys!

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Kevin Fries ke...@fries-biro.com wrote:

 You probably have a terminal open that has a shell whose current working
 directory is on the s..

 $ cd /media/mycdrive
 $ bash
 $ cd /home/me

 now your prompt shows you in me's home directory, but the parent shell's
 pwd is on the cd drive.  This will tell you the device is busy because
 the shell is open.

 This is the one that gets me more times than not.

 HTH
 Kevin



 On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 15:02 -0700, Michael Havens wrote:
  Thanks Bejamin! It says the device is busy. It isn't running and the
  program that was accessing it has completed. How do I figure out what
  process is running on it?
 
   bmike1@Michael-Notebook:/mnt/dvdrw$ sudo ps -a
   [sudo] password for bmike1:
PID TTY  TIME CMD
   2094 pts/100:00:00 man
   2105 pts/100:00:00 pager
   2197 pts/000:00:00 sudo
   2426 pts/000:00:00 ps
   bmike1@Michael-Notebook:/mnt/dvdrw$
 
  bmike1@Michael-Notebook:/mnt/dvdrw$ eject /dev/dvdrw
  Unmount failed: Cannot unmount because file system on device is busy
  eject: unmount of `/media/Linux Mint 12 32-bit' failed
  bmike1@Michael-Notebook:/mnt/dvdrw$
 
 
  On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Benjamin Browning
  b...@bensbrowning.com wrote:
  On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Michael Havens
  bmi...@gmail.com
  wrote: I am having difficulties ejecting the CD now. It
  ejected once,
  I switched
  'eject /dev/dvdrw' might work, or at least tell you why it
  isn't working :)
 
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Re: I'm trying to install LinuxMint

2011-11-28 Thread Jim March
You didn't check to make sure you had a valid connection when running
in LiveCD mode first, eh?

Jim

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 it seems to hang when it says 'installing previously installed packages'.
 H this is interesting. It won't accept my wifi password. I typed and
 retyped it and let it show mw what I was typing. No go! So I had to hardwire
 it in.

 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 desIt won't allow me to install while running off of the battery. Well,
 maybe it will but I didn't try to because I wanted all check marks  you
 know where it says,they need so much space and an internet connection and it
 needs to be plugged in. Besides, the computer is panicing when running off
 of the battery and that is why I want to try LinuxMint.

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 The other point of note, do not install on battery, this is generally
 a no no as it will do some CPU intensive things in addition to the
 DC/HDD access and none of it with any power management to speak of.

 A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from
 rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.

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Re: md5sum

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Havens
thanks for the help Matt.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.netwrote:

 From: Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com
  didn't remember umount needing the full line... I thought you just needed
  to tell it the device in /mnt to umount.

 machine:~$ mount
 [snip]
 /dev/sda1 on /mnt/kingston type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,umask=000)
 machine:~$ umount kingston
 umount: kingston is not mounted (according to mtab)
 machine:~$ umount /mnt/kingston
 [works]
 machine:/mnt$ umount kingston
 [also works]

 When you tell umount to umount something, you need to give the device or
 the
 mountpoint.  If you give it a relative path, that won't work unless you're
 in
 the appropriate dir.  So I've gotten in the habit of giving a full path
 when
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Re: I'm trying to install LinuxMint

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Havens
I don't know. I fought with it for a little before hardwiring it in. It
seemed to hang again so now I'm not installing it as an upgrade I hope
this works way works! I seem to remember trying it this way already though.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Jim March 1.jim.ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 You didn't check to make sure you had a valid connection when running
 in LiveCD mode first, eh?

 Jim

 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
  it seems to hang when it says 'installing previously installed packages'.
  H this is interesting. It won't accept my wifi password. I typed
 and
  retyped it and let it show mw what I was typing. No go! So I had to
 hardwire
  it in.
 
  On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  desIt won't allow me to install while running off of the battery. Well,
  maybe it will but I didn't try to because I wanted all check marks
 you
  know where it says,they need so much space and an internet connection
 and it
  needs to be plugged in. Besides, the computer is panicing when running
 off
  of the battery and that is why I want to try LinuxMint.
 
  On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  The other point of note, do not install on battery, this is generally
  a no no as it will do some CPU intensive things in addition to the
  DC/HDD access and none of it with any power management to speak of.
 
  A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from
  rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
 
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Re: I'm trying to install LinuxMint

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Havens
well, it installed. I'm upgrading to the DVD version as I type (on a
different computer).

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't know. I fought with it for a little before hardwiring it in.
 It seemed to hang again so now I'm not installing it as an upgrade I
 hope this works way works! I seem to remember trying it this way already
 though.

 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Jim March 1.jim.ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 You didn't check to make sure you had a valid connection when running
 in LiveCD mode first, eh?

 Jim

 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
  it seems to hang when it says 'installing previously installed
 packages'.
  H this is interesting. It won't accept my wifi password. I
 typed and
  retyped it and let it show mw what I was typing. No go! So I had to
 hardwire
  it in.
 
  On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  desIt won't allow me to install while running off of the battery. Well,
  maybe it will but I didn't try to because I wanted all check
 marks  you
  know where it says,they need so much space and an internet connection
 and it
  needs to be plugged in. Besides, the computer is panicing when running
 off
  of the battery and that is why I want to try LinuxMint.
 
  On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  The other point of note, do not install on battery, this is generally
  a no no as it will do some CPU intensive things in addition to the
  DC/HDD access and none of it with any power management to speak of.
 
  A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from
  rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
 
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Re: I'm trying to install LinuxMint

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Havens
Okay it is loaded and hopefully all is well. I've been on battery for
only a little so let's see if it crashes!

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 well, it installed. I'm upgrading to the DVD version as I type (on a
 different computer).


 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't know. I fought with it for a little before hardwiring it in.
 It seemed to hang again so now I'm not installing it as an upgrade I
 hope this works way works! I seem to remember trying it this way already
 though.

 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Jim March 1.jim.ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 You didn't check to make sure you had a valid connection when running
 in LiveCD mode first, eh?

 Jim

 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  it seems to hang when it says 'installing previously installed
 packages'.
  H this is interesting. It won't accept my wifi password. I
 typed and
  retyped it and let it show mw what I was typing. No go! So I had to
 hardwire
  it in.
 
  On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  desIt won't allow me to install while running off of the battery.
 Well,
  maybe it will but I didn't try to because I wanted all check
 marks  you
  know where it says,they need so much space and an internet connection
 and it
  needs to be plugged in. Besides, the computer is panicing when
 running off
  of the battery and that is why I want to try LinuxMint.
 
  On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  The other point of note, do not install on battery, this is generally
  a no no as it will do some CPU intensive things in addition to the
  DC/HDD access and none of it with any power management to speak of.
 
  A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you
 from
  rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
 
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Re: I'm trying to install LinuxMint

2011-11-28 Thread Jim March
We really are crossing our fingers :).

Sidenote: on your next normal reboot or re-login, try classic mode
instead of just Gnome.  Works great for me.

Jim

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Okay it is loaded and hopefully all is well. I've been on battery for
 only a little so let's see if it crashes!

 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 well, it installed. I'm upgrading to the DVD version as I type (on a
 different computer).

 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't know. I fought with it for a little before hardwiring it in.
 It seemed to hang again so now I'm not installing it as an upgrade I
 hope this works way works! I seem to remember trying it this way already
 though.

 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Jim March 1.jim.ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 You didn't check to make sure you had a valid connection when running
 in LiveCD mode first, eh?

 Jim

 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  it seems to hang when it says 'installing previously installed
  packages'.
  H this is interesting. It won't accept my wifi password. I
  typed and
  retyped it and let it show mw what I was typing. No go! So I had to
  hardwire
  it in.
 
  On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  desIt won't allow me to install while running off of the battery.
  Well,
  maybe it will but I didn't try to because I wanted all check
  marks  you
  know where it says,they need so much space and an internet connection
  and it
  needs to be plugged in. Besides, the computer is panicing when
  running off
  of the battery and that is why I want to try LinuxMint.
 
  On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  The other point of note, do not install on battery, this is
  generally
  a no no as it will do some CPU intensive things in addition to the
  DC/HDD access and none of it with any power management to speak of.
 
  A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you
  from
  rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze
  button.
 
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oh man! it just crashed again.

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Havens
I was writing an email to you guys when I got it. A PANIC!

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Re: oh man! it just crashed again.

2011-11-28 Thread Jim March
Damn.   That sucks.

Huh.

Are there any BIOS updates for the motherboard?

Failing that, what about BIOS controls regarding ACPI or similar power
management settings?

And failing THAT, hell...I'd actually consider going to kernel 3.1:

http://www.howopensource.com/2011/08/how-to-install-linux-kernel-3-1-rc2-oneiric-in-ubuntu-11-04-10-10-and-10-04/

...and there's even a way to go to kernel 3.2 if you're feeling way
desperate :).

http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/linux-image

I'm actually starting to wonder if your particular critter may be
sickly - in the hardware sense.  I've tried googling for kernel panic
issues on battery power in oneiric and I'm coming up blank.

Jim

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Re: sleep mode

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Havens
what do I do with jupiter after I download it?

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 Every time i put Linux on a Laptop/netbook i have taken to using this tool

 http://sourceforge.net/projects/jupiter/

 took a default Ubuntu 10.10 on my e6510 (i7 with a quatro 3100) from
 2.5 hours to 4-5 hours use time.

 and kept it rather useable and peppy.

 Jupiter is a rather nice set of power management settings and
 management interface.

 On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.com wrote:
  Coffee!
 
  On Nov 25, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  how can I get the OS not to fall asleep?
 
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Re: oh man! it just crashed again.

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Havens
It has something to do with the battery. It doesn't crash when it is
plugged in.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Jim March 1.jim.ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Damn.   That sucks.

 Huh.

 Are there any BIOS updates for the motherboard?

 Failing that, what about BIOS controls regarding ACPI or similar power
 management settings?

 And failing THAT, hell...I'd actually consider going to kernel 3.1:


 http://www.howopensource.com/2011/08/how-to-install-linux-kernel-3-1-rc2-oneiric-in-ubuntu-11-04-10-10-and-10-04/

 ...and there's even a way to go to kernel 3.2 if you're feeling way
 desperate :).

 http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/linux-image

 I'm actually starting to wonder if your particular critter may be
 sickly - in the hardware sense.  I've tried googling for kernel panic
 issues on battery power in oneiric and I'm coming up blank.

 Jim

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BIOS update

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Havens
Well, I restarted and checked the BIOS  man agement settings but there
aren't any power settings in my BIOS. I how do I see if there is  an update
available?  How do I tell what bios I currently have? I found this with
google:
http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=encc=usprodTypeId=321957prodSeriesId=5091489prodNameId=5143871swEnvOID=4063swLang=13mode=2taskId=135swItem=ob-92987-1
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Re: BIOS update

2011-11-28 Thread Brian Weaver
Michael,

Can you start one thread, called Michael's random linux questions or
something, and post all of your questions under that topic, instead of
starting new subjects all the time. Much easier to filter that way :)


On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I restarted and checked the BIOS  man agement settings but there
 aren't any power settings in my BIOS. I how do I see if there is  an update
 available?  How do I tell what bios I currently have? I found this with
 google:
 http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=encc=usprodTypeId=321957prodSeriesId=5091489prodNameId=5143871swEnvOID=4063swLang=13mode=2taskId=135swItem=ob-92987-1
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Re: oh man! it just crashed again.

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Havens
you really think upgrading the kernel will fix it?

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 It has something to do with the battery. It doesn't crash when it is
 plugged in.


 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Jim March 1.jim.ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Damn.   That sucks.

 Huh.

 Are there any BIOS updates for the motherboard?

 Failing that, what about BIOS controls regarding ACPI or similar power
 management settings?

 And failing THAT, hell...I'd actually consider going to kernel 3.1:


 http://www.howopensource.com/2011/08/how-to-install-linux-kernel-3-1-rc2-oneiric-in-ubuntu-11-04-10-10-and-10-04/

 ...and there's even a way to go to kernel 3.2 if you're feeling way
 desperate :).

 http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/linux-image

 I'm actually starting to wonder if your particular critter may be
 sickly - in the hardware sense.  I've tried googling for kernel panic
 issues on battery power in oneiric and I'm coming up blank.

 Jim

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Re: BIOS update

2011-11-28 Thread Michael Havens
sorry Brian I'll fdo better.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Brian Weaver bjwea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Michael,

 Can you start one thread, called Michael's random linux questions or
 something, and post all of your questions under that topic, instead of
 starting new subjects all the time. Much easier to filter that way :)


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 Well, I restarted and checked the BIOS  man agement settings but there
 aren't any power settings in my BIOS. I how do I see if there is  an update
 available?  How do I tell what bios I currently have? I found this with
 google:
 http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=encc=usprodTypeId=321957prodSeriesId=5091489prodNameId=5143871swEnvOID=4063swLang=13mode=2taskId=135swItem=ob-92987-1
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Re: oh man! it just crashed again.

2011-11-28 Thread Jim March
Roll the dice, dude :(.  You're getting short of options here.

There has *definitely* been some power-related tweaks to the kernel of late.

Jim

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 you really think upgrading the kernel will fix it?

 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 It has something to do with the battery. It doesn't crash when it is
 plugged in.

 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Jim March 1.jim.ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Damn.   That sucks.

 Huh.

 Are there any BIOS updates for the motherboard?

 Failing that, what about BIOS controls regarding ACPI or similar power
 management settings?

 And failing THAT, hell...I'd actually consider going to kernel 3.1:


 http://www.howopensource.com/2011/08/how-to-install-linux-kernel-3-1-rc2-oneiric-in-ubuntu-11-04-10-10-and-10-04/

 ...and there's even a way to go to kernel 3.2 if you're feeling way
 desperate :).

 http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/linux-image

 I'm actually starting to wonder if your particular critter may be
 sickly - in the hardware sense.  I've tried googling for kernel panic
 issues on battery power in oneiric and I'm coming up blank.

 Jim

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