Re: dns at home

2012-10-03 Thread Michael Butash
Caching bind server install is I think as easy as "apt-get install 
bind9" still on ubuntu (behind a firewall mind you).  I run a pair of 
bind servers, but mostly because I run some internal domains at home to 
keep track of various server instances and devices.  My good old dns 
servers still run on 8.04, so been a while.  :)


Another option is dnsmasq running on your client box.  I do this on my 
workstation for significantly improved responses from even my own 
servers (my esx boxen tend to be fairly slammed all the time these 
days).  You essentially point your resolv.conf to 127.0.0.1 first, and 
leave others as backups, and dnsmasq caches locally off those other 
servers.  Should help performance issues past the first hit without 
needing dedicated servers.


-mb


On 10/03/2012 01:43 PM, JD Austin wrote:

Heh!  Like minds think alike :)

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 1:39 PM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com
 mailto:kitepi...@kitepilot.com>> wrote:

I would save myself the grief of running a DNS and set my
resolv.conf to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
See:
http://www.linuxfromscratch.__org/lfs/view/stable/chapter07/__network.html

ET

Derek Trotter writes:

Since I signed up with my ISP I've had trouble with dns.
  Sometimes urls take a long time to resolve.  Other times I get
errors saying the url couldn't be found.  Sometimes a page won't
load properly because parts of it come from other urls and those
don't resolve. Calls to tech support are a waste of time.  So I
want to host dns at home.
On 10/3/2012 13:14, James Mcphee wrote:

No, this is somewhat arcane, but depending on what functions
you want, can be quite simple.  DNS works by reference, so
you don't load the world's DNS onto your server.  That
server will still need valid external DNS servers.
I prefer BIND, myself.  I have friends that enjoy PowerDNS.
  What exact uses are you trying to get out of it?
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Derek Trotter
mailto:expat.arizo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
 I'm thinking of running dns at home on my linux
box(kubuntu 8).  I
 don't want a caching server.  Would this be difficult
to set up? Would this consume a lot of bandwidth?
 Thanks
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Re: dns at home

2012-10-03 Thread JD Austin
Heh!  Like minds think alike :)

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 1:39 PM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com <
kitepi...@kitepilot.com> wrote:

> I would save myself the grief of running a DNS and set my resolv.conf to
> 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
> See:
> http://www.linuxfromscratch.**org/lfs/view/stable/chapter07/**network.html
> ET
>
> Derek Trotter writes:
>
>> Since I signed up with my ISP I've had trouble with dns.  Sometimes urls
>> take a long time to resolve.  Other times I get errors saying the url
>> couldn't be found.  Sometimes a page won't load properly because parts of
>> it come from other urls and those don't resolve. Calls to tech support are
>> a waste of time.  So I want to host dns at home.
>> On 10/3/2012 13:14, James Mcphee wrote:
>>
>>> No, this is somewhat arcane, but depending on what functions you want,
>>> can be quite simple.  DNS works by reference, so you don't load the world's
>>> DNS onto your server.  That server will still need valid external DNS
>>> servers.
>>> I prefer BIND, myself.  I have friends that enjoy PowerDNS.  What exact
>>> uses are you trying to get out of it?
>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Derek Trotter 
>>> >> expat.arizonan@gmail.**com >> wrote:
>>> I'm thinking of running dns at home on my linux box(kubuntu 8).  I
>>> don't want a caching server.  Would this be difficult to set up?
>>> Would this consume a lot of bandwidth?
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Re: dns at home

2012-10-03 Thread JD Austin
An easier solution would be to switch to a public DNS like
Open DNS:
208.67.220.220
208.67.222.222
Google:
4.4.4.4
8.8.8.8
I NEVER use my ISPs DNS servers :)

JD


On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Derek Trotter wrote:

>  Since I signed up with my ISP I've had trouble with dns.  Sometimes urls
> take a long time to resolve.  Other times I get errors saying the url
> couldn't be found.  Sometimes a page won't load properly because parts of
> it come from other urls and those don't resolve.  Calls to tech support are
> a waste of time.  So I want to host dns at home.
>
>
> On 10/3/2012 13:14, James Mcphee wrote:
>
> No, this is somewhat arcane, but depending on what functions you want, can
> be quite simple.  DNS works by reference, so you don't load the world's DNS
> onto your server.  That server will still need valid external DNS servers.
>
> I prefer BIND, myself.  I have friends that enjoy PowerDNS.  What exact
> uses are you trying to get out of it?
>
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Derek Trotter 
> wrote:
>
>>  I'm thinking of running dns at home on my linux box(kubuntu 8).  I
>> don't want a caching server.  Would this be difficult to set up?  Would
>> this consume a lot of bandwidth?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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Re: dns at home

2012-10-03 Thread kitepi...@kitepilot.com
I would save myself the grief of running a DNS and set my resolv.conf to 
8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 


See:
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/chapter07/network.html
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Derek Trotter writes: 

Since I signed up with my ISP I've had trouble with dns.  Sometimes urls 
take a long time to resolve.  Other times I get errors saying the url 
couldn't be found.  Sometimes a page won't load properly because parts of 
it come from other urls and those don't resolve. Calls to tech support are 
a waste of time.  So I want to host dns at home. 


On 10/3/2012 13:14, James Mcphee wrote:
No, this is somewhat arcane, but depending on what functions you want, 
can be quite simple.  DNS works by reference, so you don't load the 
world's DNS onto your server.  That server will still need valid external 
DNS servers. 

I prefer BIND, myself.  I have friends that enjoy PowerDNS.  What exact 
uses are you trying to get out of it? 

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Derek Trotter > wrote: 


I'm thinking of running dns at home on my linux box(kubuntu 8).  I
don't want a caching server.  Would this be difficult to set up? 
Would this consume a lot of bandwidth? 

Thanks 

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Re: dns at home

2012-10-03 Thread James Mcphee
I occassionally have similiar issues.  I do 2 things.  I have a local DNS
server that forwards to OpenDNS.  This allows me to fiddle with things as I
want, and keeps me off the ISP's horrible DNS services.

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Derek Trotter wrote:

>  Since I signed up with my ISP I've had trouble with dns.  Sometimes urls
> take a long time to resolve.  Other times I get errors saying the url
> couldn't be found.  Sometimes a page won't load properly because parts of
> it come from other urls and those don't resolve.  Calls to tech support are
> a waste of time.  So I want to host dns at home.
>
>
> On 10/3/2012 13:14, James Mcphee wrote:
>
> No, this is somewhat arcane, but depending on what functions you want, can
> be quite simple.  DNS works by reference, so you don't load the world's DNS
> onto your server.  That server will still need valid external DNS servers.
>
> I prefer BIND, myself.  I have friends that enjoy PowerDNS.  What exact
> uses are you trying to get out of it?
>
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Derek Trotter 
> wrote:
>
>>  I'm thinking of running dns at home on my linux box(kubuntu 8).  I
>> don't want a caching server.  Would this be difficult to set up?  Would
>> this consume a lot of bandwidth?
>>
>> Thanks
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Re: dns at home

2012-10-03 Thread Derek Trotter
Since I signed up with my ISP I've had trouble with dns.  Sometimes urls 
take a long time to resolve.  Other times I get errors saying the url 
couldn't be found.  Sometimes a page won't load properly because parts 
of it come from other urls and those don't resolve. Calls to tech 
support are a waste of time.  So I want to host dns at home.


On 10/3/2012 13:14, James Mcphee wrote:
No, this is somewhat arcane, but depending on what functions you want, 
can be quite simple.  DNS works by reference, so you don't load the 
world's DNS onto your server.  That server will still need valid 
external DNS servers.


I prefer BIND, myself.  I have friends that enjoy PowerDNS.  What 
exact uses are you trying to get out of it?


On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Derek Trotter 
mailto:expat.arizo...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I'm thinking of running dns at home on my linux box(kubuntu 8).  I
don't want a caching server.  Would this be difficult to set up? 
Would this consume a lot of bandwidth?


Thanks

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Re: dns at home

2012-10-03 Thread JD Austin
Nope and nope :)
This is old but covers it pretty well :
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=236093


On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Derek Trotter wrote:

>  I'm thinking of running dns at home on my linux box(kubuntu 8).  I don't
> want a caching server.  Would this be difficult to set up?  Would this
> consume a lot of bandwidth?
>
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Re: dns at home

2012-10-03 Thread James Mcphee
No, this is somewhat arcane, but depending on what functions you want, can
be quite simple.  DNS works by reference, so you don't load the world's DNS
onto your server.  That server will still need valid external DNS servers.

I prefer BIND, myself.  I have friends that enjoy PowerDNS.  What exact
uses are you trying to get out of it?

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Derek Trotter wrote:

>  I'm thinking of running dns at home on my linux box(kubuntu 8).  I don't
> want a caching server.  Would this be difficult to set up?  Would this
> consume a lot of bandwidth?
>
> Thanks
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Re: dns at home

2012-10-03 Thread Lisa Kachold
Hi Derek,

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Derek Trotter wrote:

>  I'm thinking of running dns at home on my linux box(kubuntu 8).  I don't
> want a caching server.  Would this be difficult to set up?  Would this
> consume a lot of bandwidth?
>
> There are some security risks but as long as you configure it right there
should be no problem.

Named installs easily.

Setting up a split dns profile is easy, but it would actually be better if
you have a subnet of IP addresses?

No, it doesn't consume alot of bandwidth, since it's on the local net, it
will reduce you inbound/outbound bandwidth.

http://wiki.zimbra.com/wiki/Split_dns

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dns at home

2012-10-03 Thread Derek Trotter
I'm thinking of running dns at home on my linux box(kubuntu 8).  I don't 
want a caching server.  Would this be difficult to set up?  Would this 
consume a lot of bandwidth?


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Re: OT: Which news source(s) do you prefer?

2012-10-03 Thread Lyle Tuttle


Have you looked at: 

http://www.livestation.com/
At 11:36 PM 10/2/2012, Michael Butash wrote:
At the end of the day, all news
agencies are trying to make a buck, which means they're selling interest
in products or view, which lead back to product via some level of
marketing.  They tell you what you want to hear, usually varying for
the pitch, but the idea is to hook you long enough to push a commercial
that results in a sale for a vendor of theirs.  They exist to track
you, as their ancient business model mandates such behavior. 
Technology to resist scare them.
Beauty of the internet, is via various privacy modes in browsers,
plugins, and simple os security you *can* mitigate most invasions, even
casual (and taken for granted, ahem facebook) ones today.  Browsers
traditionally have been the worst in giving up privacy (thanks
microsoft), but noscript alone does wonders, as do other plugins
mentioned to halt marketing/tracking nonsense.  Good thing some
decent humans create plugins against corporate greed mongering and/or
stupidity.
RSS scraping/aggregating also speeds up perusal significantly hitting a
_lot_ of content/news each day without the ads as you really don't care
about 20x banners per 40 different "omg iphone" stories across
various different sites you'll hit a day.  Your data provider
probably appreciates a lot less downloaded temporary crap too, especially
on mobile when you're taxed per gb.  I use greader on my phone to
read the news, synch realtime to google reader, and finish or review news
later from my desktop.  Splendid setup actually, highly
recommended.  If your bullshit meter goes off with a feed, replace
them.
I get as much or as little news as I want across a lot of material this
way.  I'm pretty rarely caught unknowing about most major happenings
I actually care to know about.
-mb

On 10/02/2012 10:39 PM, Derek Trotter wrote:
I can't listen to any news on
the radio here(Jellico, Tn) during the
day. None of the two or three fm stations available here do any news.
I
don't pay for the local crappy cable, so I can't watch it on the
idiot
box. I check out the Drudge Report several times a day. Then I'll take
a
look at the Daily Telegraph, the Daily Mail, the Sun, the Register,
the
Jerusalem post and the Melbourne age. Sometimes I'll put on kfyi for
news. Then there is the news on channel 10 or 15. If any of the
others
stream their news broadcasts please let me know. If I want news and
a
bit of humor to go with it, fark.com is where I go. Although it is
available online, the financially troubled Arizona Republic doesn't
appeal to me.
How's that?
On 10/2/2012 21:41, Dazed_75 wrote:
I have the same issues so look
at multiple source (none in print) but
I've been using BBC of late for real life news even though that
doesn't get a lot of stateside or local coverage. I don't think the
question was about tech news.
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Patricia Wilson
>
wrote:
    For politics and world news foxnews special report.
For techie
    stuff zdnet.
    On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:44 AM,

   
<
mailto:j...@actionline.com>> wrote:

    Which news sources (print
and/or internet) do y'all prefer?
    I'm fed up with *all* media
sources ... with all of the bias
    (both ways),
    spin, distortion,
inflammation, exaggeration, ambulance chasing
    sensationalizing, and overdone
visual graphics.
    Haven't subscribed to any
print media for more than 20 years,
    but used to
    scan the USA Today headlines
online; however, since they just
    changed
    their format to force an
excessive (imh) clutter of graphics
    on us, it is
    no longer a viable option for
me.
    Are there any online news
headline sources that are not
    radical, liberal,
    left-wing, extremist, fanatic,
spinmeisters? ... or (almost as
    bad)
    extreme
right-wingers?
    I've tried all those listed at
this link and found nothing
    that seems
    reasonably "fair and
balanced" ... and most of all *efficient*
    without
    excessive clutter.
    - - -

http://www.upquick.com/best/news.htm - - -
    So what would y'all
recommend?

   
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Job Night @ Stammtisch

2012-10-03 Thread der.hans

moin moin,

We're trying something new and will have our first themed Stammtisch
event.

http://www.LuftHans.com/node/5689

The Free Software Stammtisch is hosting a job night at this coming east
valley event on Tuesday, 2012Oct16. The goal is to bring in engineers and
managers from groups that are hiring in addition to job seekers and
recruiters. For technical positions it's much better to talk directly to
the team that is hiring. Job Night @ Stammtisch is geek networking for
finding the right person to join your team or to find the right team to
join.

As this is geek networking in Arizona, suits are inappropriate. Sure,
dress for success, but remember that the Stammtisch is a casual setting.

Free Software system administrators ( GNU/Linux, *BSD ) and developers (
Perl, C, Python, Ruby, Java, C++, etc ) are in high demand.

http://h30565.www3.hp.com/t5/Feature-Articles/Linux-It-s-Where-the-Jobs-Are/ba-p/7402

Due to the high demand companies are having trouble finding good
candidates. One way for them to find good candidates is to go where the
candidates are. Companies and their engineers should participate in local
group mailing lists and events. They should also go to conferences such as
SCaLE.

Job Night will run from 19:00 to 20:00, but everyone is welcome to hang
out for the rest of Stammtisch if they'd like.

Iguana Macks is a commercial restaurant. The Stammtisch is a social event.
There is no obligation to buy something, but we will *NOT* be providing no
cost food or drinks. If you want something order it and pay for it :).

Job Night @ Stammtisch
Tuesday, 2012Oct16
19:00 - 20:00

Iguana Macks
371 N. Alma School Rd
Chandler, AZ 85224

http://www.IguanaMacks.com/
http://maps.google.com/maps/place?&q=iguana+macks+chandler+arizona&hl=en&cd=1&cad=src:pplink

ciao,

der.hans
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