Re: mk802, g-82

2012-10-20 Thread der.hans

Am 19. Oct, 2012 schwätzte Joseph Sinclair so:


I'll answer the 2160p question:
2160p is 4K UHD resolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2160p).


I presumed it was something like that. Sounds like we're finally hitting
resolution good enough to use for a monitor.

/me waits for the 600 4320p display :).


This probably doesn't fit your preferences (particularly the load a distro 
part), but it doesn't get much simpler than a Roku stick 
(http://www.roku.com/streamingstick) if you have a TV with a MHL compatible 
HDMI port, and the remote is the TV's remote (also, there's a smartphone app).


Yeah, roku depends on an Internet connection and that is far from certain
in this case.

MHL means one remote controls both TV and the plugin device? Do you have
to switch back in forth like TV/Sat/DVD/AUX or can you just change
channels or change volume and the correct thing happens?

Finally found a video showing a remote with a TV to control a phone over
MHL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmuvzfkyP78

I don't see him changing volume, but I would think the TV could be kept at
constant volume and changing the phone volume would be sufficient.

What about for the roku stick?

What about integration with an OTA receiver? Can Roku handle that as a
channel?

I need simple. While the person is intelligent, whatever I set up might be
a brand new interface to learn multiple times a day on the bad days.

ciao,

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Re: mk802, g-82

2012-10-20 Thread Ed
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 10:10 PM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote:
 Am 19. Oct, 2012 schwätzte Ed so:


 Hans - MythTV will be too complex an interface - XBMC may have a skin
 that works - and it will run on everything from a Raspberry PI on up
 (Debian too)
 http://www.raspbmc.com/


 Can't you add and remove options from the Myth interface?


you can, and there are plugins too. But, the UX paths are
understandable to you and I because we recognize the structure, but it
isn't intuitive for someone without a computer background - not to
mention the level of detailed configuration that normal folks really
do not like. Besides, from the lists, the most enjoyable remote for
MythTV is apparently a Bluetooth keyboard - again, a miss on the
target audience. Now, XBMC acting as a front-end for a MythTV back-end
is nice.

 I saw XMBC on a Raspberry Pi before they were released :).


new and improved - now with twice the memory!


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Re: mk802, g-82

2012-10-20 Thread der.hans

Am 19. Oct, 2012 schwätzte Ed so:

moin moin,


Can't you add and remove options from the Myth interface?



you can, and there are plugins too. But, the UX paths are
understandable to you and I because we recognize the structure, but it


Haven't seen it in a while. Last I saw it, the base UI looked easy enough
once unused stuff was removed. Then again, I wasn't contemplating
Alzheimer's back then.


isn't intuitive for someone without a computer background - not to
mention the level of detailed configuration that normal folks really


Ah, well I'll be stuck with 100% of the configuration.


do not like. Besides, from the lists, the most enjoyable remote for
MythTV is apparently a Bluetooth keyboard - again, a miss on the
target audience. Now, XBMC acting as a front-end for a MythTV back-end
is nice.


Yeah, that's something for me to consider.

ciao,

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Re: mk802, g-82

2012-10-20 Thread Ed
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:25 PM, der.hans pl...@lufthans.com wrote:
 Am 19. Oct, 2012 schwätzte Ed so:

 moin moin,


 Can't you add and remove options from the Myth interface?


 you can, and there are plugins too. But, the UX paths are
 understandable to you and I because we recognize the structure, but it


 Haven't seen it in a while. Last I saw it, the base UI looked easy enough
 once unused stuff was removed. Then again, I wasn't contemplating
 Alzheimer's back then.


 isn't intuitive for someone without a computer background - not to
 mention the level of detailed configuration that normal folks really


 Ah, well I'll be stuck with 100% of the configuration.


well it is a hierarchical set of menus, no bread crumbs and  lots of
potential functional levels to get lost in, not just a simple TV.


 do not like. Besides, from the lists, the most enjoyable remote for
 MythTV is apparently a Bluetooth keyboard - again, a miss on the
 target audience. Now, XBMC acting as a front-end for a MythTV back-end
 is nice.


 Yeah, that's something for me to consider.


maybe something using a Kinect?  ;)  at least you could include a
work-out with  the TV viewing...
also - get a good idea of favorite shows, preferred news channels and
other comfortable media.


 ciao,

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OT: Facebook experts available for hire?

2012-10-20 Thread joe

Are there any Facebook experts available for hire /for consultation in the
plug community?

Facebook terms of service seem to say one cannot have more than one
facebook page or account, yet some other sources seem to indicate that one
can have both a personal account and a separate business account with
multiple pages for separate products and/or services, etc.  It's all very
confusing.

I have a dozen different websites for different books and ministry
projects and I'd like to set up a separate facebook page for each one (I
think).  Is this permissible or verboten?



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Re: OT: Facebook experts available for hire?

2012-10-20 Thread Eric Cope
setting up a page for each one is fine. Otherwise how would Coca Cola have
a Coke and Diet Coke page?
the purpose is to prevent people from having many accounts for spam
activities...

Eric

On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 3:23 AM, j...@actionline.com wrote:


 Are there any Facebook experts available for hire /for consultation in the
 plug community?

 Facebook terms of service seem to say one cannot have more than one
 facebook page or account, yet some other sources seem to indicate that one
 can have both a personal account and a separate business account with
 multiple pages for separate products and/or services, etc.  It's all very
 confusing.

 I have a dozen different websites for different books and ministry
 projects and I'd like to set up a separate facebook page for each one (I
 think).  Is this permissible or verboten?



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usage tracking

2012-10-20 Thread Derek Trotter
My ISP imposes a monthly quota.  If the total amount of data I download 
and upload exceeds that quota I get billed extra. Everything I send or 
receive passes through my full time linux box. Is there something I can 
install on it that would monitor and log how much data passes through eth0?


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Re: usage tracking

2012-10-20 Thread Stephen
Probably, I know smoothwall does this, but its its own dedicated
distro. but that certainly means the tools are there, i just don't
know what they are called. i think some google fu is in your future
:-)

On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Derek Trotter expat.arizo...@gmail.com wrote:
 My ISP imposes a monthly quota.  If the total amount of data I download and
 upload exceeds that quota I get billed extra. Everything I send or receive
 passes through my full time linux box. Is there something I can install on
 it that would monitor and log how much data passes through eth0?

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Re: OT: Facebook experts available for hire?

2012-10-20 Thread mike enriquez

Hi Joe,
I am no expert on Facebook but I just returned from a week of seminars 
at Harvard Business School where they are researching Google and 
Facebook.  Professors covered who is using Facebook and who is making 
money by using Facebook.


These experts were very informative and the information was very surprising.

I don't want to write down what they told us, but send me your phone 
number and I will gladly pass on the information.


Good luck.

Mike Enriquez






On 10/20/2012 03:23 AM, j...@actionline.com wrote:

Are there any Facebook experts available for hire /for consultation in the
plug community?

Facebook terms of service seem to say one cannot have more than one
facebook page or account, yet some other sources seem to indicate that one
can have both a personal account and a separate business account with
multiple pages for separate products and/or services, etc.  It's all very
confusing.

I have a dozen different websites for different books and ministry
projects and I'd like to set up a separate facebook page for each one (I
think).  Is this permissible or verboten?



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Re: usage tracking

2012-10-20 Thread Lisa Kachold
Hi Derek,

On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Derek Trotter expat.arizo...@gmail.comwrote:

 My ISP imposes a monthly quota.  If the total amount of data I download
 and upload exceeds that quota I get billed extra. Everything I send or
 receive passes through my full time linux box. Is there something I can
 install on it that would monitor and log how much data passes through eth0?

 thanks

snip

You can enable iptables to do this:

http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-configuring-ip-traffic-accounting/

It should look like this:

iptables -N INET_OUT
iptables -N INET_IN
iptables -A FORWARD -j INET_IN
iptables -A FORWARD -j INET_OUT
iptables -A INPUT -j INET_IN
iptables -A OUTPUT -j INET_OUT

To see your data:

iptables -L -v -n

To see just your In:

/sbin/iptables -v -n -L INET_IN

To see just your Out:

/sbin/iptables -v -n -L INET_OUT

Depending on your distro, your iptables files will be saved in a directory.

You can use:

iptables-save

to save the recipe to persistent state (past a reboot or reset).

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Re: OT: Facebook experts available for hire?

2012-10-20 Thread Lisa Kachold
Hi Joe,

On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 3:23 AM, j...@actionline.com wrote:


 Are there any Facebook experts available for hire /for consultation in the
 plug community?

 Facebook terms of service seem to say one cannot have more than one
 facebook page or account, yet some other sources seem to indicate that one
 can have both a personal account and a separate business account with
 multiple pages for separate products and/or services, etc.  It's all very
 confusing.

 I have a dozen different websites for different books and ministry
 projects and I'd like to set up a separate facebook page for each one (I
 think).  Is this permissible or verboten?

 That is permissible if your endeavors are unique!  If all websites fall
under the same ministry project, you can use the same account/button/wall.
You can get php plugins or apps that will provide a Like button on
Facebank.  I would go ahead and use it.

 https://developers.facebook.com/docs/reference/plugins/like/


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Re: OT: Facebook experts available for hire?

2012-10-20 Thread keith smith

Nice!!  Bet you have some very interesting and powerful information.





Keith Smith

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Subject: Re: OT: Facebook experts available for hire?
To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Date: Saturday, October 20, 2012, 9:40 AM

Hi Joe,
I am no expert on Facebook but I just returned from a week of seminars 
at Harvard Business School where they are researching Google and 
Facebook.  Professors covered who is using Facebook and who is making 
money by using Facebook.

These experts were very informative and the information was very surprising.

I don't want to write down what they told us, but send me your phone 
number and I will gladly pass on the information.

Good luck.

Mike Enriquez






On 10/20/2012 03:23 AM, j...@actionline.com wrote:
 Are there any Facebook experts available for hire /for consultation in the
 plug community?

 Facebook terms of service seem to say one cannot have more than one
 facebook page or account, yet some other sources seem to indicate that one
 can have both a personal account and a separate business account with
 multiple pages for separate products and/or services, etc.  It's all very
 confusing.

 I have a dozen different websites for different books and ministry
 projects and I'd like to set up a separate facebook page for each one (I
 think).  Is this permissible or verboten?



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Re: mk802, g-82

2012-10-20 Thread Joseph Sinclair
Inline:

On 10/19/2012 11:16 PM, der.hans wrote:
 Am 19. Oct, 2012 schwätzte Joseph Sinclair so:
 
SNIP
 MHL means one remote controls both TV and the plugin device? Do you have
 to switch back in forth like TV/Sat/DVD/AUX or can you just change
 channels or change volume and the correct thing happens?
With the MHL connection, the device has no remote control of it's own, 
everything is controlled by the host device; that includes volume.

 
 Finally found a video showing a remote with a TV to control a phone over
 MHL.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmuvzfkyP78
 
 I don't see him changing volume, but I would think the TV could be kept at
 constant volume and changing the phone volume would be sufficient.
No, The phone volume has no effect as the output stream is a straight digital 
content stream.  The TV controls volume.

 
 What about for the roku stick?
Same, the TV does volume, the stick just provides an A/V data stream.

 
 What about integration with an OTA receiver? Can Roku handle that as a
 channel?
No, He would switch to (e.g.) HDMI-3 for the Roku, and HDMI-1 for the OTA.  
Most TV remotes can make this a single button for each source.

 
 I need simple. While the person is intelligent, whatever I set up might be
 a brand new interface to learn multiple times a day on the bad days.
Simple is good, and I have gotten some absolutely technophobic persons to use 
Roku just fine (as long as I turn on the system; I have a complex turn-on 
sequence due to having 5 non-integrated devices, something you'll want to 
avoid), and switching (via single-button) from Roku to OTA is not a problem 
when I provide a small instruction sheet (3 sentences [for Watch TV, Watch 
Movies, Turn Off], fits on a 3X5 in 16pt Courier).

I should mention that some of the newer Smart TV sets have built-in streaming 
video capability (including viewing any DLNA content on the local net), and 
that can be made fairly simple to use as well with a bit of remote-control 
programming.

 
 ciao,
 
 der.hans
SNIP



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Re: usage tracking

2012-10-20 Thread Joseph Sinclair
iptables can do traffic accounting (I think Lisa gave some good pointers 
there), but you might also want to *control* the bandwidth usage (say throttle 
to a low speed when you get over 80% of your limit, or block YouTube after it 
consumes XX% of the limit).
For that the tc utility may be used to manage the IP traffic control features 
of the Linux kernel on your gateway box.
TC is fairly complicated (unless you read about traffic queuing disciplines for 
fun), and the only GUI tool I know of, ktctool(http://ktctool.berlios.de/) is a 
bit old; last updated in 2006.
You might be able to find a few other ui options with some careful google 
searching (rather high junk ratio in a couple test searches I did).

On 10/20/2012 08:38 AM, Derek Trotter wrote:
 My ISP imposes a monthly quota.  If the total amount of data I download and 
 upload exceeds that quota I get billed extra. Everything I send or receive 
 passes through my full time linux box. Is there something I can install on it 
 that would monitor and log how much data passes through eth0?
 
 thanks



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Re: mk802, g-82

2012-10-20 Thread Brian Cluff
I think you mean CEC (Consumer Electronics Control) compatible TV 
instead of MHL (Mobile High-Definition Link) which is the interface to 
convert the USB on your phone into an HDMI port that understands CEC.
In that video they are actually demonstrating CEC when they are showing 
off the remove controlling the phone.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-Definition_Link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Electronics_Control#CEC

Brian Cluff

On 10/20/2012 10:03 AM, Joseph Sinclair wrote:

Inline:

On 10/19/2012 11:16 PM, der.hans wrote:

Am 19. Oct, 2012 schwätzte Joseph Sinclair so:


SNIP

MHL means one remote controls both TV and the plugin device? Do you have
to switch back in forth like TV/Sat/DVD/AUX or can you just change
channels or change volume and the correct thing happens?

With the MHL connection, the device has no remote control of it's own, 
everything is controlled by the host device; that includes volume.



Finally found a video showing a remote with a TV to control a phone over
MHL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmuvzfkyP78

I don't see him changing volume, but I would think the TV could be kept at
constant volume and changing the phone volume would be sufficient.

No, The phone volume has no effect as the output stream is a straight digital 
content stream.  The TV controls volume.



What about for the roku stick?

Same, the TV does volume, the stick just provides an A/V data stream.



What about integration with an OTA receiver? Can Roku handle that as a
channel?

No, He would switch to (e.g.) HDMI-3 for the Roku, and HDMI-1 for the OTA.  
Most TV remotes can make this a single button for each source.



I need simple. While the person is intelligent, whatever I set up might be
a brand new interface to learn multiple times a day on the bad days.

Simple is good, and I have gotten some absolutely technophobic persons to use 
Roku just fine (as long as I turn on the system; I have a complex turn-on 
sequence due to having 5 non-integrated devices, something you'll want to 
avoid), and switching (via single-button) from Roku to OTA is not a problem 
when I provide a small instruction sheet (3 sentences [for Watch TV, Watch 
Movies, Turn Off], fits on a 3X5 in 16pt Courier).

I should mention that some of the newer Smart TV sets have built-in streaming 
video capability (including viewing any DLNA content on the local net), and that can be 
made fairly simple to use as well with a bit of remote-control programming.



ciao,

der.hans

SNIP



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Need urgent help repairing a video file...and yeah, it's a Linux issue...

2012-10-20 Thread Jim March
Folks,

I have a broken .mp4 file on my hands that is critically important to a
political thing I'm doing.

The file is at:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1825088/ScytlBaltimore.mp4

I've tried using a front-end to ffmeg called format junkie to fix this
critter and the error it spits out is moov atom not found.  This
apparently means the data might be there, but the video format structure
does exist.

Some google-fu led me to this page:

http://vcg.isti.cnr.it/~ponchio/untrunc.php

Awesome!  An open-source util that can cope with this.

Problems though...

It needs libavformat-dev and libavcodec-dev straight from the Ubuntu
repositories and the Quantal that I'm running (latest Ubuntu) can't load
those per Synaptic - not without a lot of dependency hell stuff that might
break FSM only knows what.

I have a VM copy of Mint 8 that might, but I can't seem to get Virtualbox
to pass it networking so that I could load those and load the
build-essentials stuff needed to compile this critter.

Can anybody help by compiling untrunc and then applying it to that data
file!?  I'd be very, very grateful :(.

Thanks,

Jim
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Re: mk802, g-82

2012-10-20 Thread Joseph Sinclair
The Roku Stick, and many phones, use MHL-compatible ports; CEC is the 
remote-control interface for MHL, but it's the MHL port that is required for a 
Roku stick.
As far as I can tell, all MHL compatible host devices (e.g. TVs) also support 
CEC.

On 10/20/2012 10:34 AM, Brian Cluff wrote:
 I think you mean CEC (Consumer Electronics Control) compatible TV instead of 
 MHL (Mobile High-Definition Link) which is the interface to convert the USB 
 on your phone into an HDMI port that understands CEC.
 In that video they are actually demonstrating CEC when they are showing off 
 the remove controlling the phone.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-Definition_Link
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Electronics_Control#CEC
 
 Brian Cluff
 
 On 10/20/2012 10:03 AM, Joseph Sinclair wrote:
 Inline:

 On 10/19/2012 11:16 PM, der.hans wrote:
 Am 19. Oct, 2012 schw�tzte Joseph Sinclair so:

 SNIP
 MHL means one remote controls both TV and the plugin device? Do you have
 to switch back in forth like TV/Sat/DVD/AUX or can you just change
 channels or change volume and the correct thing happens?
 With the MHL connection, the device has no remote control of it's own, 
 everything is controlled by the host device; that includes volume.


 Finally found a video showing a remote with a TV to control a phone over
 MHL.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmuvzfkyP78

 I don't see him changing volume, but I would think the TV could be kept at
 constant volume and changing the phone volume would be sufficient.
 No, The phone volume has no effect as the output stream is a straight 
 digital content stream.  The TV controls volume.


 What about for the roku stick?
 Same, the TV does volume, the stick just provides an A/V data stream.


 What about integration with an OTA receiver? Can Roku handle that as a
 channel?
 No, He would switch to (e.g.) HDMI-3 for the Roku, and HDMI-1 for the OTA.  
 Most TV remotes can make this a single button for each source.


 I need simple. While the person is intelligent, whatever I set up might be
 a brand new interface to learn multiple times a day on the bad days.
 Simple is good, and I have gotten some absolutely technophobic persons to 
 use Roku just fine (as long as I turn on the system; I have a complex 
 turn-on sequence due to having 5 non-integrated devices, something you'll 
 want to avoid), and switching (via single-button) from Roku to OTA is not a 
 problem when I provide a small instruction sheet (3 sentences [for Watch TV, 
 Watch Movies, Turn Off], fits on a 3X5 in 16pt Courier).

 I should mention that some of the newer Smart TV sets have built-in 
 streaming video capability (including viewing any DLNA content on the local 
 net), and that can be made fairly simple to use as well with a bit of 
 remote-control programming.


 ciao,

 der.hans
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Re: Need urgent help repairing a video file...and yeah, it's a Linux issue...

2012-10-20 Thread Brian Cluff
It appears that you have managed to chop off the end of your file, and 
since MPEG4 files keep their header at the end of the file nothing will 
touch that file.  Sure, much of the data is there, but you would have to 
know a heck of a lot about it and have some very special software in 
order to reconstruct it, but that still wouldn't replace whatever video 
also got chopped off.


One of the utilities that I ran it though said the file should have been 
closer to 152MB instead of 17MB, so you appear to have lost most of the 
data too.


Brian Cluff

On 10/20/2012 10:58 AM, Jim March wrote:

Folks,

I have a broken .mp4 file on my hands that is critically important to a
political thing I'm doing.

The file is at:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1825088/ScytlBaltimore.mp4

I've tried using a front-end to ffmeg called format junkie to fix this
critter and the error it spits out is moov atom not found.  This
apparently means the data might be there, but the video format structure
does exist.

Some google-fu led me to this page:

http://vcg.isti.cnr.it/~ponchio/untrunc.php

Awesome!  An open-source util that can cope with this.

Problems though...

It needs libavformat-dev and libavcodec-dev straight from the Ubuntu
repositories and the Quantal that I'm running (latest Ubuntu) can't
load those per Synaptic - not without a lot of dependency hell stuff
that might break FSM only knows what.

I have a VM copy of Mint 8 that might, but I can't seem to get
Virtualbox to pass it networking so that I could load those and load the
build-essentials stuff needed to compile this critter.

Can anybody help by compiling untrunc and then applying it to that data
file!?  I'd be very, very grateful :(.

Thanks,

Jim


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Re: mk802, g-82

2012-10-20 Thread Brian Cluff
But my point is that what Hans would be more accurately looking for is a 
CEC controllable device and TV since that would also include any number 
of other HDMI connected devices in addition to MHL devices, including a 
MythTV box if it's running the latest .26 release. (Whoo Hoo!)


Upon looking at the Roku stick, it appears that the MHL port on a TV is 
actually a USB port that has the MHL adapter internal to the TV.  So it 
just simply keeps you from having to purchase a USB to MHL adapter, 
which only cost about $7, that converts your phone USB port to an HDMI 
port.  You could just as easily get the adapter and plug it into your 
non MHL ready TV's HDMI port and use it's CEC ability to do the exact 
same thing.


Brian Cluff

On 10/20/2012 11:20 AM, Joseph Sinclair wrote:

The Roku Stick, and many phones, use MHL-compatible ports; CEC is the 
remote-control interface for MHL, but it's the MHL port that is required for a 
Roku stick.
As far as I can tell, all MHL compatible host devices (e.g. TVs) also support 
CEC.

On 10/20/2012 10:34 AM, Brian Cluff wrote:

I think you mean CEC (Consumer Electronics Control) compatible TV instead of 
MHL (Mobile High-Definition Link) which is the interface to convert the USB on 
your phone into an HDMI port that understands CEC.
In that video they are actually demonstrating CEC when they are showing off the 
remove controlling the phone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-Definition_Link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Electronics_Control#CEC

Brian Cluff

On 10/20/2012 10:03 AM, Joseph Sinclair wrote:

Inline:

On 10/19/2012 11:16 PM, der.hans wrote:

Am 19. Oct, 2012 schw�tzte Joseph Sinclair so:


SNIP

MHL means one remote controls both TV and the plugin device? Do you have
to switch back in forth like TV/Sat/DVD/AUX or can you just change
channels or change volume and the correct thing happens?

With the MHL connection, the device has no remote control of it's own, 
everything is controlled by the host device; that includes volume.



Finally found a video showing a remote with a TV to control a phone over
MHL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmuvzfkyP78

I don't see him changing volume, but I would think the TV could be kept at
constant volume and changing the phone volume would be sufficient.

No, The phone volume has no effect as the output stream is a straight digital 
content stream.  The TV controls volume.



What about for the roku stick?

Same, the TV does volume, the stick just provides an A/V data stream.



What about integration with an OTA receiver? Can Roku handle that as a
channel?

No, He would switch to (e.g.) HDMI-3 for the Roku, and HDMI-1 for the OTA.  
Most TV remotes can make this a single button for each source.



I need simple. While the person is intelligent, whatever I set up might be
a brand new interface to learn multiple times a day on the bad days.

Simple is good, and I have gotten some absolutely technophobic persons to use 
Roku just fine (as long as I turn on the system; I have a complex turn-on 
sequence due to having 5 non-integrated devices, something you'll want to 
avoid), and switching (via single-button) from Roku to OTA is not a problem 
when I provide a small instruction sheet (3 sentences [for Watch TV, Watch 
Movies, Turn Off], fits on a 3X5 in 16pt Courier).

I should mention that some of the newer Smart TV sets have built-in streaming 
video capability (including viewing any DLNA content on the local net), and that can be 
made fairly simple to use as well with a bit of remote-control programming.



ciao,

der.hans

SNIP



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Re: usage tracking

2012-10-20 Thread Derek Trotter

Thank you.  This will give me something to do over the weekend.

On 10/20/2012 9:50 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

Hi Derek,

On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Derek Trotter 
expat.arizo...@gmail.com mailto:expat.arizo...@gmail.com wrote:


My ISP imposes a monthly quota.  If the total amount of data I
download and upload exceeds that quota I get billed extra.
Everything I send or receive passes through my full time linux
box. Is there something I can install on it that would monitor and
log how much data passes through eth0?

thanks

snip

You can enable iptables to do this:

http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-configuring-ip-traffic-accounting/

It should look like this:

iptables -N INET_OUT
iptables -N INET_IN
iptables -A FORWARD -j INET_IN
iptables -A FORWARD -j INET_OUT
iptables -A INPUT -j INET_IN
iptables -A OUTPUT -j INET_OUT

To see your data:

iptables -L -v -n

To see just your In:

/sbin/iptables -v -n -L INET_IN

To see just your Out:

/sbin/iptables -v -n -L INET_OUT

Depending on your distro, your iptables files will be saved in a 
directory.


You can use:

iptables-save

to save the recipe to persistent state (past a reboot or reset).

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Re: usage tracking

2012-10-20 Thread Derek Trotter

On 10/20/2012 9:50 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote:

Hi Derek,

On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Derek Trotter 
expat.arizo...@gmail.com mailto:expat.arizo...@gmail.com wrote:


My ISP imposes a monthly quota.  If the total amount of data I
download and upload exceeds that quota I get billed extra.
Everything I send or receive passes through my full time linux
box. Is there something I can install on it that would monitor and
log how much data passes through eth0?

thanks

snip

You can enable iptables to do this:

http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-configuring-ip-traffic-accounting/


Thank you Lisa.  I went to the link above and the instructions did look 
just like what you gave me.



It should look like this:

iptables -N INET_OUT
iptables -N INET_IN
iptables -A FORWARD -j INET_IN
iptables -A FORWARD -j INET_OUT
iptables -A INPUT -j INET_IN
iptables -A OUTPUT -j INET_OUT

To see your data:

iptables -L -v -n


I did this and got the following.  I deleted several lines that had 0 in 
the pkts and bytes columns.


root@wallace:/etc# iptables -L -v -n
Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 9634 packets, 1530K bytes)
 pkts bytes target prot opt in out source   destination
11050 1764K ACCEPT all  --  lo * 0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0
   12  1352 ACCEPT udp  --  eth0   * 0.0.0.0/0
0.0.0.0/0   udp spt:53 state ESTABLISHED
 6006  763K LOGall  --  *  * 0.0.0.0/0
0.0.0.0/0   LOG flags 0 level 4 prefix `InDrop '

   10  2580 DROP   all  --  eth0   * 0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0
 5996  760K INET_INall  --  *  * 0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0

Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 3317 packets, 1838K bytes)
 pkts bytes target prot opt in out source   destination
 3148 1828K INET_INall  --  *  * 0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0
 3148 1828K INET_OUT   all  --  *  * 0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0

Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 9240 packets, 2209K bytes)
 pkts bytes target prot opt in out source   destination
11050 1764K ACCEPT all  --  *  lo 0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0
   12   808 ACCEPT udp  --  *  eth0 0.0.0.0/0
0.0.0.0/0   udp dpt:53 state NEW,ESTABLISHED

 5657 1272K INET_OUT   all  --  *  * 0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0

Chain INET_IN (2 references)
 pkts bytes target prot opt in out source   destination

Chain INET_OUT (2 references)
 pkts bytes target prot opt in out source   destination

Which of these figures do I look at or add together to find the total 
amount of data downloaded via eth0 or how much was uploaded via eth0?


This machine runs Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS.  Any idea what the names of the 
files are that store the above information or where they are?


Thank you very much
Derek


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re: Need urgent help repairing a video file...and yeah, it's a Linux issue...

2012-10-20 Thread Jim March
OK.  As best we can tell, we've independently proven the point that the
video in question was about: that a voting machine company was fraudulently
reporting their office location.  So the situation isn't critical like I
thought it was when I posted this morning.

If anybody is still curious, here's a similar video from the same camera
(Looxcie.com) - in this case shows how a voting machine company feels about
people asking basic questions:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1825088/Dominion%20in%20Denver.mpeg

Thanks,

Jim
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