Re: Format
Matthew A Coulliette wrote: The toilet paper should come over the top of the role, so that it hags down in front of the role and away from the wall. ;-) MatthewMPP Exactamento. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Format
Most 'top posters' are too lazy to actually clean up the e-mail below to just retain the pertinent items to which they are responding to, leaving the challenge to the next reader to figure it out. This is what happens when people have no Usenet chops. The storied customs and traditions of the internet fall by the wayside for unthinking and clumsy new vulgarities. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Looking for Laptop Suggestions
4. Lisa picked up on a good point - my daughter is deathly afraid I will get her a black box computer for college. I mean a real black box - square corners, matte black. We don't agree on shoes, and we don't agree on the need for a fashionable laptopso I have to through in that as a requirement as wellno square corners and matte/shiny black finish. Must have color...I suggested spray paint, but didn't get very far.;-) Black is my favourite colour for computers and electronic equipment :( --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Tempe Stammtisch tonight
der.hans wrote: moin moin, this month Free Software Š…tammtisch in Tempe is tonight. We'll start 19:00 at Boulders on Broadway. http://www.LuftHans.com/node/1521 ciao, der.hans --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss Okay, I'm about done with the monkey show over here. Time to knock some back, see you guys in a few. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: now I have a reason to learn backtrack3
mike havens wrote: people areasking me how to find out their wep passwords. can you teach me how to help these people? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss If they have physical access to the wireless AP, it's probably easier to reset it via the AP interface. The sort of people who forget their own passwords are also the sort of people who won't change the router admin pword away from the defaults. If they don't have physical access: http://aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=newbie_guide --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Got a text formatting/database question - the political backstory
Jim March wrote: MS-Access is banned from voting systems (ain't approved) This is a very refreshing change from the status quo! Out of curiousity, what are the approved DBs for voting systems? --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Got a text formatting/database question - the political backstory
der.hans wrote: Will you be at Stammtische again on Tuesday? ciao, der.hans Absolutely! --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: ISO file to boot CD?
architect Mike Enriquez wrote: I am trying to understand how to take an ISO file and create a boot CD from it. I don't understand how Lunix relates to ISO files but Linux is mentioned at several web sites. I understand TAR files but can anyone understand how this relates to anything. Does anyone on the list know of some good discussions sites on this subject as it relates to Linux and Windlows. Thanks Mike Enriquez http://www.incredimail.com/index.asp?id=109094rui=114193493 Which distro? GNOME and KDE have really easy GUIs to do this. You can usually context-click the iso and burn from there. From the command line: cdrecord -v -pad speed=1 dev=X,X,X src.iso --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Ubuntu 9.04
Stephen wrote: I guess you agoold investigate the old rule of /home being its own partition again :-) On 4/13/09, James Finstrom jfinst...@rhinoequipment.com wrote: Hello All, So I have been fighting the urge to re-install until the final release but my geekyness got the best of me and I decided to nuke my laptop and install Ubuntu 9.04 beta. Well It went pretty smooth, I Have a Dell Vostro 1000 and it works out of the box including the display, wireless card everything. During the install it detected my previous install and offered to migrte my user account, files and settings. I did a backup but thought sure why not one less step. Well the migration didnt happen but its cool because i planned on manual migration anyway. I still have some playing to do but so far I 3 the new ubuntu.. James Finstrom Rhino Equipment Corp. http://rhinoequipment.com ~ http://postug.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/rhinoequipment IP: gu...@asterisk.rhinoequipment.com Stephen is bang on target here. I have /home on its own drive and it's glorious. Root can get corrupted, destroyed, resized or anything, and all my personal files and data remain intacta. It's also fun for when you want to try out other distros or a BSD or something. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: O.T. email management ?
Eric Shubert wrote: I have come to appreciate imap. It allows me to access my email from a variety of clients (t-bird, squirrelmail, blackberry) without any sort of conflict. No more pop3 for me! I have multiple email accounts, and use thunderbird. It handles multiple accounts (identities) nicely for me, w/out getting them mixed together. The integrated newsreader is nice as well. I use gmane.org for accessing email lists that way, so lists don't complicate my other email. IMAP is definitely the way to go with multiple devices accessing multiple accounts from multiple locations. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: IM ROOT
James Finstrom wrote: I was at the park and swap today and the advantage of being a linux geek is the ability touse it as an excuse. Hey, where/when is this park and swap? A friend at work was telling me about it and I love looking over old HW and SW so I really want to go. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: router opinions wanted
Robert Holtzman wrote: Is it possible to disable a wireless router's transmitter and use it with cable? I thought I might like to try it as hard wired but retain the capability of going wireless later. I've run a lot of searches on this question and haven't seen anything You should be able to do this with even the stock firmware the manufacturer provides. It's usually labelled Radio Broadcast or Enable Wireless --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: looking for db recommendation
mz wrote: I'm migrating from M$ WinXP to openSUSE 11.0. At the moment I'm looking for a db for simple personal use. I have a music collection db in M$ Access. There are about 1900 records w/ six variables. The collection is mostly vinyl LPs (i.e., entered by hand) with another 2000 LPs not yet in the db. If possible, I'd like to do a simple import w/ minimal clean up to avoid re-entering the existing records. What are the recommendations for a db and how best to accomplish the migration? TIA, Mark Z. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss It won't be a popular answer, but Postgres! Stable and rock-solid means you'll never lose data, and the documentation and community are pretty top-notch IMHO. For such a small number of records, it will also be more than speed-competitive with the lighter DBs. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: looking for db recommendation
Bryan O'Neal wrote: I don't think any one doubts postgresqls ability to run his db effectively, instead we doubt its ease of use. MS Access it is not ;) -Original Message- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Bishmer Sekaran Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:12 PM To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: looking for db recommendation mz wrote: I'm migrating from M$ WinXP to openSUSE 11.0. At the moment I'm looking for a db for simple personal use. I have a music collection db in M$ Access. There are about 1900 records w/ six variables. The collection is mostly vinyl LPs (i.e., entered by hand) with another 2000 LPs not yet in the db. If possible, I'd like to do a simple import w/ minimal clean up to avoid re-entering the existing records. What are the recommendations for a db and how best to accomplish the migration? TIA, Mark Z. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss It won't be a popular answer, but Postgres! Stable and rock-solid means you'll never lose data, and the documentation and community are pretty top-notch IMHO. For such a small number of records, it will also be more than speed-competitive with the lighter DBs. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss Postgres' difficulty is somewhat overstated. IMO it's easier to get started with postgres than to say, learn mod_perl on Apache or configure sendmail. Steps for Mark to switch to postgres: 1) Acquire and start postgres - Easy in SUSE, they even have a page for it: http://en.opensuse.org/Postgresql 2) Export data from Access (Access-Excel-csv is easiest? Seems like it's more convoluted, ie would be faster than Access- csv since this is M$ we're talking about) 3) Create his new db - Copy the same format as previously, just in ANSI SQL. Probably something like CREATE TABLE Records ( Artist text, Album text, Year integer, Genre text, Rating integer, Lastquality datatype ); 4) COPY Records FROM filename WITH CSV; See also: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/static/sql-copy.html Not so bad at all! --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: IE's Death Imminent
Joe wrote: It's still on the edge of being a rumor (though more are starting to confirm it), but it seems like IE8 is going to be the last IE ever. M$ is looking to replace IE with Gazelle, a new browser they are writing from the ground up. Some are reporting that it will use Webkit for rendering, but that hasn't been confirmed (and I personally don't think it's too likely). http://apcmag.com/microsoft-to-drop-internet-explorer-for-gazelle.htm It all sounds very nice, but they also did the whole ground up rewrite with vista, and we all know how well THAT turned out. In any event, while I have my doubts about it being much of an improvement in the end, I look forward to a world without IE!! -Joe --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss Are they really going to abandon the Internet Exploder name for Gazelle? It sounds more likely that Gazelle is just a codename for the project that will be marketed as IE9. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss