Re: OT:
Mine works. Version 20.0.1132.47 Ubuntu 12.04 (144678) On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Michael Havens wrote: > I was investigating things and: > > Getting a WebGL Implementation > <http://www.khronos.org/webgl/wiki_1_15/index.php/Getting_a_WebGL_Implementation#mw-head><http://www.khronos.org/webgl/wiki_1_15/index.php/Getting_a_WebGL_Implementation#p-search> > > The WebGL 1.0 specification has recently been released, and the latest > builds of several browsers are close to reaching full conformance. Here are > instructions on how to obtain a copy of a browser supporting the WebGL > specification. As various implementations reach 100% conformance, expect > that browsers will have this functionality built in to their latest > releases, and not require any manual steps to enable it. > Maybe the version of chrome we have isn't compliant?? > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Michael Havens wrote: > >> didn't work for me either. >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:06 AM, Michael Butash wrote: >> >>> Apparently not under linux. >>> >>> Unless it's nacl, which usually requires acts of voodoo to behave and >>> I'd assume typically do without than deal with. >>> >>> -mb >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11/14/2012 11:02 PM, Joe Gibbs wrote: >>> >>>> How about this for a OT topic >>>> >>>> Everyone should go take a look at this and play around with it. 45 years >>>> ago I wanted to build something like this using small lights and lots of >>>> wire. Being able to see it on my 23" computer screen via the laptop is >>>> amazing and blows my mind. >>>> >>>> >>>> New Chrome experiment maps 100,000 stars in >>>> interactive visualization >>>> <http://9to5google.com/2012/**11/14/new-chrome-experiment-** >>>> maps-10-stars-in-**interactive-visualization/<http://9to5google.com/2012/11/14/new-chrome-experiment-maps-10-stars-in-interactive-visualization/> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> *100,000 Stars* is an interactive visualization of the stellar >>>> >>>> neighborhood created for theGoogle Chrome >>>> <http://www.google.com/chrome> web browser. It shows the real location >>>> >>>> of over 100,000 nearby stars. Zooming in reveals 87 individually >>>> identified stars and our solar system. The galaxy view is an artist’s >>>> rendition. >>>> >>>> http://9to5google.com/2012/11/**14/new-chrome-experiment-maps-** >>>> 10-stars-in-interactive-**visualization/<http://9to5google.com/2012/11/14/new-chrome-experiment-maps-10-stars-in-interactive-visualization/> >>>> >>>> >>>> --**- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - >>>> plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.us >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discuss<http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss> >>>> >>> --**- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - >>> plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discuss<http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss> >>> >> >> > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Patricia Wilson Apache Junction, AZ Member NRA, ARRL WB8DXX (Extra) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: Which news source(s) do you prefer?
For politics and world news foxnews special report. For techie stuff zdnet. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:44 AM, wrote: > > Which news sources (print and/or internet) do y'all prefer? > > I'm fed up with *all* media sources ... with all of the bias (both ways), > spin, distortion, inflammation, exaggeration, ambulance chasing > sensationalizing, and overdone visual graphics. > > Haven't subscribed to any print media for more than 20 years, but used to > scan the USA Today headlines online; however, since they just changed > their format to force an excessive (imh) clutter of graphics on us, it is > no longer a viable option for me. > > Are there any online news headline sources that are not radical, liberal, > left-wing, extremist, fanatic, spinmeisters? ... or (almost as bad) > extreme right-wingers? > > I've tried all those listed at this link and found nothing that seems > reasonably "fair and balanced" ... and most of all *efficient* without > excessive clutter. > > - - - http://www.upquick.com/best/news.htm - - - > > So what would y'all recommend? > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Patricia Wilson Apache Junction, AZ Member NRA, ARRL WB8DXX (Extra) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: (Way off Topic)
I hesitate to mention this but Gamer's Inn on Southern at Stapely (NE corner) still has tables and tableau gear. The hours are kind of skimpy though and I don't know when games are going there. On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 6:19 AM, Eric Allen wrote: > Does anyone play Warhammer 40k? I'm looking for someone to show me how to > play. I have a small Army of 22 pieces. I live at Baseline and Country Club. > . > Eric > 480-772-6896 > . > > > Woman is 57 But Looks 27 > Mom publishes simple facelift trick that angered doctors... > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/503b7430db55774305cb4st04vuc > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Sent from my super hot-shot dual core 64 bit Gateway running Ubuntu 12 from the chrome/teak/glass desktop in my Luxo Scottsdale condo. Patricia Wilson Apache Junction, AZ Member NRA, ARRL WB8DXX (Extra) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: gcc
Compiling gcc from scratch, as I am sure you found out, is actually a bootstrap process. It starts by compiling a tiny compiler which it then uses to compile the main compiler. Or at least that is how it used to work. We used to have to do it for our Suns in the early 90's because all that came with them was a very minimal UCB compiler.Also, I think that nowadays if you just do the build with no switches you automatically get a whole bunch of compilers. GCC stands for GNU Compiler Collection. On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > Holy-moely! I've been compiling gcc for 2 hours now! > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Sent from my super hot-shot dual core 64 bit Gateway running Ubuntu 12 from the chrome/teak/glass desktop in my Luxo Scottsdale condo. Patricia Wilson Apache Junction, AZ Member NRA, ARRL WB8DXX (Extra) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: DON'T PANIC
I was quite fortunate to have an extraordinarily good computer services department where I worked right out of college. They had emacs on the Suns and the Vaxen. I decided learning one editor beat learning two so emacs it was. Nope, wasn't as "good" as the VAX editor on the VAX but was a lot better than the VAX editor on a Sun. On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Michael Butash wrote: > Same thing here - slowaris early in my unix-y years only had vi prior to > finding out about sunfreeware.com, so i just got used to it. Finding vim > made it that much more likeable to prefer it to today. To this day I'll > find myself when using a windoze system notepad or gedit on linux still > compulsory hitting :wq! when done, and having to think for a sec why it > didn't do anything. Opps... > > -mb > > > > On 08/10/2012 07:46 PM, Matt Graham wrote: > >> From: Patricia Wilson >> >>> I was exposed to vi several years ago. It made me ever so thankful for >>> the >>> nice people who developed emacs. >>> >> >> Years and years ago, the Solaris boxen at college had vi, but not emacs. >> pico >> didn't cut it for anything complicated. >> >> This left me no choice but to become a vi king. >> >> --**- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discuss<http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss> > -- Sent from my super hot-shot dual core 64 bit Gateway running Ubuntu 12 from the chrome/teak/glass desktop in my Luxo Scottsdale condo. Patricia Wilson Apache Junction, AZ Member NRA, ARRL WB8DXX (Extra) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: DON'T PANIC
I was exposed to vi several years ago. It made me ever so thankful for the nice people who developed emacs. On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Derek Trotter wrote: > I was exposed to vi several years ago. It made me ever so thankful for > the nice people who developed pico. > > On 8/10/2012 15:38, ChasM Marshall wrote: > >Linux users should try vi in a terminal; > > $ vi(now type in the vi command ":help 42") > > > : > h > e > l > p > > 4 > 2 > > > (And you may need to know how to gracefully quit) > > > : > q > > > $ > > The escape-colon sequence is a toggle between command line mode and edit > mode. > Personally I've always felt that vi came from another galaxy... and I > press once to begin every edit. > > (-: Chas.M. :-) > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail > settings:http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Sent from my super hot-shot dual core 64 bit Gateway running Ubuntu 12 from the chrome/teak/glass desktop in my Luxo Scottsdale condo. Patricia Wilson Apache Junction, AZ Member NRA, ARRL WB8DXX (Extra) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Fedora Pays Microsoft Boot License fee.
Ahh the day of the Dongle. I expect a much higher than average number of people on this list can "roll their own" -- that is certainly not the case in general even amongst linux users. On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 7:58 AM, keith smith wrote: > > During the mid 80's software manufactures tried to lock down their > software. What they found was stopping pirating entirely reduced sales. > Who would have known. The thought at the time was that without the ability > to copy and try, some were unwilling to buy. Unintended byproduct. The > other thing that happens was a work around. There were several apps that > would unlock the software and allow it to be installed anywhere. > > If the hardware manufactures lock down their hardware several things are > going to happen. someone will create an open source / free app to beat the > hardware lock. > > Another unintended consequence could be surplus (used) hardware become > unusable. > > Another consequence could be a niche market for unlocked hardware, which > could cause the OEM's to lose market share. > > Yet another unintended consequence is the potential for increased support > by M$. I seem to recall a number of years ago M$ tried to lock down it's > OS and support was a big issue and they stopped the practice. > > If they lock down the hardware, I will not buy Dell or HP any longer. I > will build my own. > > > Keith Smith > > --- On *Sat, 6/9/12, Derek Trotter * wrote: > > > From: Derek Trotter > Subject: Re: Fedora Pays Microsoft Boot License fee. > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > Date: Saturday, June 9, 2012, 9:13 PM > > > From the article mentioned in the original post: > > Microsoft’s practice is facilitated by the UEFI, or Unified Extensible > Firmware Interface, which allows a manufacturer to lock down the boot > process so that it will only work on their specified conditions. > > What's to keep Microsoft from telling a manufacturer they must lock down > the machine so no other operating system will boot on it if they want > licenses to install windows on their machines? > > On 6/9/2012 17:14, Eric Shubert wrote: > > I don't see how that would be a problem. Please reference exact part of > the article which leads you to believe that. > > BL, there's a lot of misinformation about this. I don't think it's > anything to be concerned about. > > > -Inline Attachment Follows- > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us<http://mc/compose?to=PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Sent from my super hot-shot dual core 64 bit Gateway running Ubuntu 12 from the chrome/teak/glass desktop in my Luxo Scottsdale condo. Patricia Wilson Apache Junction, AZ Member NRA, ARRL WB8DXX --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Which linux distro
Ditto. Ubuntu certainly is easy to install but once installed the default desktop sucks big-time (unless you are running on a touchscreen). There oughta be a line somewhere in the install instructions for newbies: "At initial login select Gnome classic." On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Kevin Fries wrote: > I have to agree. Unity sucks so bad I have a hard time recommending > Ubuntu. But Gnome Shell has stabilized and with a small amour of tweaking > (I.e. installing of themes) I would place my Gnome desktop against any Mac > desktop for clean, professional looking desktop. > > This afternoon I even had a Windows user looking over my shoulder at work, > and his comments about how he should try Linux again based on how friendly > and easy to look at my screen was. > > Whatever you do... the default theme on both Unity and Shell is nothing > special. Gnome-Look.org is your friend. > > Otherwise, I would use Mint. > > Kevin > On May 18, 2012 8:52 PM, "Stephen" wrote: > >> I have gnome 3 on 12.04 figured out.. it is certainly growing on me. >> On May 18, 2012 7:16 PM, "Carruth, Rusty" < >> rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com> wrote: >> >>> ** >>> >>> Yeah, I'm still at ubuntu 10.04 *entirely* due to Unity. Gag me - I >>> have a COMPUTER, people, this is NOT a phone! >>> >>> Oh, sorry, I'm back on that soapbox! :-) >>> >>> But, anyway, yes, I *can* use just about any distro, but I use Ubuntu >>> because I want it to work and I don't need to prove I can do hard stuff. >>> But then, I'm a native Unix/Linux speaker..., so YMMV! >>> >>> Rusty >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us on behalf of >>> Sent: Fri 5/18/2012 6:46 PM >>> To: Main PLUG discussion list >>> Subject: Re: Which linux distro >>> >>> I vote for Mint... >>> Ditched Ubuntu after Unity... :( >>> ET >>> >>> >>> Lisa Kachold writes: >>> >>> > Ubuntu Most Recent for Desktop Users >>> > >>> > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Derek Trotter <>wrote: >>> > >>> >> Which linux distro would you suggest for someone who wants to install >>> >> linux but wants an easy to set up and configure distro? >>> >> >>> >> thanks >>> >> --**- >>> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - plug-disc...@lists.plug.**phoenix.az.us< >>> PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us> >>> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.**us/mailman/listinfo/plug-**discuss< >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > (503) 754-4452 Android >>> > (623) 239-3392 Skype >>> > (623) 688-3392 Google Voice >>> > ** >>> > it-clowns.com >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Sent from my super hot-shot dual core 64 bit Gateway running Ubuntu 11 from the chrome/teakwood/glass desktop in my Luxo Scottsdale condo. Patricia Wilson Apache Junction, AZ Member NRA, ARRL WB8DXX --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: Need help ripping out an nvidia binary driver installed...
Which nvidia one? I have four. patricia@leothon:~$ dpkg --get-selections | grep -i nvidia libkwinnvidiahack4install nvidia-commoninstall nvidia-currentinstall nvidia-settingsinstall On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 5:30 PM, JD Austin wrote: > rmmod will only remove it from memory.. it isn't persistent across > reboots. > I'm not an ubuntu guy but that's based on debian.. > > Get the list of packages installed and look for the nvidia one: > > dpkg --get-selections | grep -i nvidia > > Then remove it with apt-get : > > apt-get remove > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 17:15, Jim March <1.jim.ma...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> ...from an Nvidia .run file. >> >> I'm on ubuntu 12.04 and the Nvidia 295.40 driver is a travesty in 64bit. >> So I got ahold of nvidia's 295.33 driver, killed X and installed it via >> Nvidia's command-line installer. Big mistake. Fried the hell out of >> amy graphical use whatsoever. Can't even get Nouveau to start. I think I >> need to yank out what Nvidia's installer did. I did an rmmod nvidia - no >> joy. Help? Typing this on my cellphone...sigh. >> >> Jim >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Sent from my super hot-shot dual core 64 bit Gateway running Ubuntu 11 from the chrome/teakwood/glass desktop in my Luxo Scottsdale condo. Patricia Wilson Apache Junction, AZ Member NRA, ARRL WB8DXX --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: change home directory name
Note that your home directory name appears in the /etc/passwd file so the system knows where you "live" when you login. If you change the name of that directory you need to change your entry in the passwd file to match. On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > How would I accomplish this? Is it as easy as just moving the old name to > the new name; or should I do a 'find -r / |mv - > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Sent from my super hot-shot dual core 64 bit Gateway running Ubuntu 11 from the chrome/teakwood/glass desktop in my Luxo Scottsdale condo. Patricia Wilson Apache Junction, AZ Member NRA, ARRL WB8DXX --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
