OT (or is it): Fw: The untold doomsday scenario in the Gulf
Fw: The untold DOOMSDAY Scenario emerging in the Gulf . . .] Oil Spill Releases Death in the Sea I am writing with a sense of urgency for my brothers and sisters in the United States of America. I have been watching the Gulf oil disaster unfolding for 52 days now and am so aware that what is being officially presented in the mainline media is a vastly watered-down version of what is really occurring on the ocean floor (and in boardrooms away from the public eye). The cavity containing oil beneath the ocean floor is estimated to be larger than the Grand Canyon and the so-called 'spill' is actually not pluggable by the feeble attempts of man. In the last couple of days information has been forwarded to me, the entirety of which can be read at http://www.rense.com/general91/oilor.htm . A summary from the article quoting scientists studying the site says this: 'At some point the drilled hole in the earth will enlarge itself beneath the wellhead to weaken the area the wellhead rests upon. The intense pressure will then push the wellhead off the hole allowing a direct unrestricted flow of oil, etc. The hole will continue to increase in size allowing more and more oil to rise into the Gulf. After several billion barrels of oil have been released, the pressure within the massive cavity five miles beneath the ocean floor will begin to normalize. This will allow the water, under the intense pressure at 1 mile deep, to be forced into the hole and the cavity where the oil was. The temperature at that depth is near 400 degrees, possibly more. The water will be vaporized and turned into steam, creating an enormous amount of force, lifting the Gulf floor. It is difficult to know how much water will go down to the core and therefore, its not possible to fully calculate the rise of the floor. The tsunami wave this will create will be anywhere from 20 to 80 feet high, possibly more. Then the floor will fall into the now vacant chamber. This is how nature will seal the hole. Depending on the height of the tsunami, the ocean debris, oil, and existing structures that will be washed away on shore and inland, will leave the area from 50 to 200 miles inland devoid of life. Even if the debris is cleaned up, the contaminants that will be in the ground and water supply will prohibit re-population of these areas for an unknown number of years. ' There is also an extreme alert issued on Steve Quayle's website (http://www.stevequayle.com/index1.html) regarding imminent evacuation of the Gulf Coast: 'Gulf Coast Evacuation Contingency Plans Soon to Go Operational: The operational name for the Gulf Coast Evacuation is "Swift Fox". Yesterday morning at around 8:30 Mountain time, I received information that specific towns, in Tennessee, Kentucky, Alabama, Mississippi, Texas and Georgia were having hotel rooms rented in mass by different named "Societies" using Federal government credit cards. The block hotel room rentals are for half the available rooms in hotels with a minimum of 120 rooms. Specific conversations were "overheard" that would indicate that the planned Gulf Coast evacuation is soon to be implemented. The only scenario I hear that may force the government to evacuate the coast is a multiple plume situation. Apparently, the unmitigated oil spilling has caused a pressure flux which, ironically, has caused a spider web network of Gulf seabed fissures, which has caused at least one other confirmed oil plume. NOAA is searching for two more suspected ones". This quote is from an insider who is really concerned as he should be. Here's additional info he provided. His comments in the following quote: "I know FEMA has already scoped out FEMA camp locations, i.e. vacant lots and swaths of land that can be leased temporarily in Texas and Georgia". Please take the time to read the whole alert if you are able as it speaks of severe food shortages occurring. Another report from scientists speaks of the underwater plumes being tested (http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2010/06/08/08greenwire-scientist-awed-by-size-density-of-undersea-oil-98517.html): "It's an infusion of oil and gas unlike anything else that has ever been seen anywhere, certainly in human history," said Samantha Joye of the University of Georgia, the expedition leader. Bacteria are breaking down the oil's hydrocarbons in a massive, microorganism feeding frenzy that has sent oxygen levels plunging close to what is considered "dead zone" conditions, at which most marine life are smothered for a lack of dissolved oxygen. Such low-oxygen conditions were noticed farther from the spill site, although Joye said she did not think the process would immediately produce a dead zone, since low nutrient concentrations in the water would limit the rate of the bacterial consumption. Joye said her team also measured extremely high levels of methane, which is also spewing from the gushing BP well at up to 10,000 times background levels in Gulf waters. "I've been working in the Gulf of Mex
Re: OT (or is it): Fw: The untold doomsday scenario in the Gulf
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 11:05:48AM -0600, j...@actionline.com wrote: > > Fw: The untold DOOMSDAY Scenario emerging in the Gulf . . .] snip of tons of apocalyptic crap. Is this list moderated? If so, how did this get through? -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 "If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer" signature.asc Description: Digital signature --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT (or is it): Fw: The untold doomsday scenario in the Gulf
Maybe you see this as "apocalyptic". However what if something like this were to happen. Do you think it would be relevant then? I know Joseph and he is a very stable guy that you would want to live next door to you, especially if things go bad. If there is anyone on this list who has good intentions it is Joseph. Keith Smith --- On Sun, 6/20/10, Robert Holtzman wrote: From: Robert Holtzman Subject: Re: OT (or is it): Fw: The untold doomsday scenario in the Gulf To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Sunday, June 20, 2010, 2:31 PM On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 11:05:48AM -0600, j...@actionline.com wrote: > > Fw: The untold DOOMSDAY Scenario emerging in the Gulf . . .] snip of tons of apocalyptic crap. Is this list moderated? If so, how did this get through? -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 "If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer" -Inline Attachment Follows- --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT (or is it): Fw: The untold doomsday scenario in the Gulf
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 11:05:48AM -0600, j...@actionline.com wrote: >> >> Fw: The untold DOOMSDAY Scenario emerging in the Gulf . . .] > > snip of tons of apocalyptic crap. > > Is this list moderated? If so, how did this get through? This is list not moderated. Community discipline and respect keeps the content on topic. Or not. Alan --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT (or is it): Fw: The untold doomsday scenario in the Gulf
This is one of those times I HOPE that this is just tin hat talk and nothing like that happens. Fortunately worst case scenario only happens once in a while! JD On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 17:06, Alan Dayley wrote: > On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 11:05:48AM -0600, j...@actionline.com wrote: > >> > >> Fw: The untold DOOMSDAY Scenario emerging in the Gulf . . .] > > > >snip of tons of apocalyptic crap. > > > > Is this list moderated? If so, how did this get through? > > This is list not moderated. Community discipline and respect keeps > the content on topic. Or not. > > Alan > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT (or is it): Fw: The untold doomsday scenario in the Gulf
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 04:11:39PM -0700, keith smith wrote: > > Maybe you see this as "apocalyptic". However what if something like this were > to happen. Do you think it would be relevant then? > > I know Joseph and he is a very stable guy that you would want to live next > door > to you, especially if things go bad. > > If there is anyone on this list who has good intentions it is Joseph. I never questioned his intentions. The issue is forwarding messages that are fear mongering with links to lunatic fringe conspiracy sites as evidence. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 "If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer" signature.asc Description: Digital signature --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT (or is it): Fw: The untold doomsday scenario in the Gulf
On 6/20/10 10:05 AM, j...@actionline.com wrote: Fw: The untold DOOMSDAY Scenario emerging in the Gulf . . .] it sounds all too sensational to me. However the alluding to corporate conspiracies is probably more true than not. However, unless there is real evidence to support the other mess in here, I tend to find it, well unbelievable. I am not even sure that the amount of back pressure from the oil field would be enough to push out (let alone leak around) 18,000+ feet of tightly fitted pipe with a concrete filler. also, I tend to take anything posted at rense.com with a grain of salt. I will tend to believe (given past experience) that the main stream media never tells the whole truth (if it bleeds, it leads). As for Dr. James P. Wickstrom, well, he's a commentator with some extreme views (I may be conservative, but even this guy makes me more than a little nervous). Unfortunately, I have not been able to find any relevant information as to what school he attended or what his Doctorate was in. some other interesting reading about Dr. James P. Wickstrom: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_is_Dr_James_P_Wickstrom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Wickstrom Given this information and the google relevant searches, I cannot even take this guy seriously. until he comes up with scientifically verifiable evidence to back his claims, I view him as nothing more than a panic monger and doomsday cultist. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
