RE: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware
Yes, the Drupal mailman plugin will allow for mail to be sent HTML only, and the user can specify this. There is a great deal that can be done with Drupal/mailman that we are not doing, including automatic schedule announcements and promotions integrated with the user features or just allowed via user event registration. http://www.Obnosis.com | (503)754-4452 http://l0calh0st.obnosis.com | http://wiki.obnosis.com | http://hackfest.obnosis.com | http://nuke.obnosis.com PLUG HACKFESTS - http://uat.edu Second Saturday Every mo...@noon - 3PM Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:23:31 -0700 From: technomage.ha...@gmail.com To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Subject: Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get serverhardware There are, in fact, a few of us (like me) who use text only readers for various reasons (such as visual impairment) and html formatted messages are definitely the bane of out existence. its been proper etiquette on the internet since its inception that mail usually is plain text and if you wish to send media (pictures, etc) that its attached (in mime printable form). this may seem archaic, but it generally works out well for most of us. now my client here can read html formatted messages, but the speech device will not read me the output, instead it will read the underlying source of the text (which gets noisy, frustrating, and tends to have me filter such without even reading it) I, for one, have a problem with such mails and tend to filter them into the junk box. if anything important gets in there, its gone (if its really important, the sender will have sent as plain text with an html attachment preferred. this way, I can still read it and those with extra features can use the html to their own contentment). sorry of I may seem a bit terse toward those using html formatted text messages, but you folks should be aware there are almost 30 million others like me and we would rather not have our lives made any harder than it already is. JD Austin wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Nathan England nat...@paysonlinux.org mailto:nat...@paysonlinux.org wrote: On Wednesday 28 January 2009 11:49:48 Patrick Jacques wrote: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN html Is there a way for mailman or whatever the mail list manager is to wipe out html messages and only send the plain text? Or better yet, is there a way for my procmail to do it? nathan --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss I never have understood why some people have an issue with html mail; unless you view mail on a teletype machine you can choose how it is displayed. Most modern mail clients have an option to view the text version of the email instead of html. In Thunderbird it is in view - message body as plain text. -- JD Austin Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC j...@twingeckos.com mailto:j...@twingeckos.com 480.288.8195x201 http://www.twingeckos.com Bill Cosby - A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_012009--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware
Dazed_75 wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Judd Pickell pick...@gmail.com wrote: Not everyone wants to have change a setting while just trying to view their emails. Although to be fair I use gmail so I don't have to be concerned about it. But I am sure there are people on this list still using Pine or equiv, since that is and can be done via commandline like ssh from a phone. Maybe those folks should just go back to using carrier pidgeons. Alternatives could include changing to using an email client that would support THEIR need to block or convert HTML to text. Expecting the rest of the world to change to do what they want is just wrong and ain't gonna happen. Pardon me? it seems that the rest of the world has been heading toward visual media in e-mail for some time. it has forced some of us into the problem of having to spend greater amounts of money for specialized technology in order to cope (have you any idea how much a fully speech synthesized computer system for the blind really costs these days?). there is a need for plain text and anyone that tells me I should learn to live with it has never been blind in their life and should try traveling in my shoes for about 6 months to get a real feel for it. now being forced to spend large sums of money just to be able to access the internet because of something not your fault is wrong at a much deeper level. so yeah, this point is a raw nerve for me. I am curious, how many truly html based emails do we get on this list? I would think lately we maybe recieving more, given the link structures in some emails; so maybe it is a concern now? I don't know but I did change to using plain text for some time because of the desires of certain people here. The loss of functionality was bothersome so I finally switched back to the rich text mode of gmail. I do understand that html CAN be used for harmful intent but then what can't? If you want to fear technology, don't use it! I don't fear the technology. I seek to understand it. However, very few virii or other malware can be sent plain text (even scripts won't run automatically, making for a very nice filter in and of itself). html was never standardized, which is why there are so many problems with it and its associated exploits (and the fact that windows still uses an auto execute protocol when opening e-mails in OE). I look at it this way: new technology is great if its designed correctly and properly debugged. if not, its a disaster waiting to happen. btw, I work part time (self employed) helping people clean their machines of various malware and the largest problems I have seem all originate from html coded e-mails and improperly formatted websites with holes big enough to float in the entire US navy. Frankly, I would rather not have the work, but it does pay well (when it pays). so no, I do not fear the technology. I do keep in mind that there are those who (through whatever means) seek to exploit it for criminal purposes ( take a hard long look at alt.2600.hackers for some examples of this). In case you folks are wondering, I am using Mozilla t-bird ON WINDOWS (because my speech system is only supported there). Until Linux comes up with a way to have speech work better in X, I am rather stuck where I am, (though the command line is useful). --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Technomage technomage.ha...@gmail.comwrote: There are, in fact, a few of us (like me) who use text only readers for various reasons (such as visual impairment) and html formatted messages are definitely the bane of out existence. its been proper etiquette on the internet since its inception that mail usually is plain text and if you wish to send media (pictures, etc) that its attached (in mime printable form). this may seem archaic, but it generally works out well for most of us. now my client here can read html formatted messages, but the speech device will not read me the output, instead it will read the underlying source of the text (which gets noisy, frustrating, and tends to have me filter such without even reading it) I, for one, have a problem with such mails and tend to filter them into the junk box. if anything important gets in there, its gone (if its really important, the sender will have sent as plain text with an html attachment preferred. this way, I can still read it and those with extra features can use the html to their own contentment). sorry of I may seem a bit terse toward those using html formatted text messages, but you folks should be aware there are almost 30 million others like me and we would rather not have our lives made any harder than it already is. JD Austin wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Nathan England nat...@paysonlinux.org mailto:nat...@paysonlinux.org wrote: On Wednesday 28 January 2009 11:49:48 Patrick Jacques wrote: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN html Is there a way for mailman or whatever the mail list manager is to wipe out html messages and only send the plain text? Or better yet, is there a way for my procmail to do it? nathan --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss I never have understood why some people have an issue with html mail; unless you view mail on a teletype machine you can choose how it is displayed. Most modern mail clients have an option to view the text version of the email instead of html. In Thunderbird it is in view - message body as plain text. -- JD Austin Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC j...@twingeckos.com mailto:j...@twingeckos.com 480.288.8195x201 http://www.twingeckos.com Bill Cosby - A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss On this particular email list you might get the rest of the 'world' to conform to your particular circumstances but it's not likely for society as a whole. Have you looked in to modernizing your speech device? Even without it there are open source text to speech applications such as flite or cepstral that you could be utilized to make a modern email client talk. I bet if you ask the right people at Mozilla they might even put a hook into Thunderbird if there isn't one already. -- JD Austin Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC j...@twingeckos.com 480.288.8195x201 http://www.twingeckos.com Calvin Trillin - Health food makes me sick. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware
There are, in fact, a few of us (like me) who use text only readers for various reasons (such as visual impairment) and html formatted messages are definitely the bane of out existence. its been proper etiquette on the internet since its inception that mail usually is plain text and if you wish to send media (pictures, etc) that its attached (in mime printable form). this may seem archaic, but it generally works out well for most of us. now my client here can read html formatted messages, but the speech device will not read me the output, instead it will read the underlying source of the text (which gets noisy, frustrating, and tends to have me filter such without even reading it) I, for one, have a problem with such mails and tend to filter them into the junk box. if anything important gets in there, its gone (if its really important, the sender will have sent as plain text with an html attachment preferred. this way, I can still read it and those with extra features can use the html to their own contentment). sorry of I may seem a bit terse toward those using html formatted text messages, but you folks should be aware there are almost 30 million others like me and we would rather not have our lives made any harder than it already is. JD Austin wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Nathan England nat...@paysonlinux.org mailto:nat...@paysonlinux.org wrote: On Wednesday 28 January 2009 11:49:48 Patrick Jacques wrote: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN html Is there a way for mailman or whatever the mail list manager is to wipe out html messages and only send the plain text? Or better yet, is there a way for my procmail to do it? nathan --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us mailto:PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss I never have understood why some people have an issue with html mail; unless you view mail on a teletype machine you can choose how it is displayed. Most modern mail clients have an option to view the text version of the email instead of html. In Thunderbird it is in view - message body as plain text. -- JD Austin Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC j...@twingeckos.com mailto:j...@twingeckos.com 480.288.8195x201 http://www.twingeckos.com Bill Cosby - A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Nathan England nat...@paysonlinux.orgwrote: On Wednesday 28 January 2009 11:49:48 Patrick Jacques wrote: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN html head meta content=text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type title/title /head body bgcolor=#ff text=#00 On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Patrick Jacques spanlt;a moz-do-not-send=true href=mailto:patr...@kinetic-computing.net; patr...@kinetic-computing.net/ agt;/span wrote:br blockquote cite=mid:2864806b0901280414k20d4b761pf0527c9c9c5d...@mail.gmail.commid%3a2864806b0901280414k20d4b761pf0527c9c9c5d...@mail.gmail.com type=cite div blockquote divAlso, which version of smoothwall are you working with? br div divbr br /div /div /div /blockquote /div /blockquote br /body /html Is there a way for mailman or whatever the mail list manager is to wipe out html messages and only send the plain text? Or better yet, is there a way for my procmail to do it? nathan --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss I never have understood why some people have an issue with html mail; unless you view mail on a teletype machine you can choose how it is displayed. Most modern mail clients have an option to view the text version of the email instead of html. In Thunderbird it is in view - message body as plain text. -- JD Austin Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC j...@twingeckos.com 480.288.8195x201 http://www.twingeckos.com Bill Cosby - A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware
Not everyone wants to have change a setting while just trying to view their emails. Although to be fair I use gmail so I don't have to be concerned about it. But I am sure there are people on this list still using Pine or equiv, since that is and can be done via commandline like ssh from a phone. I am curious, how many truly html based emails do we get on this list? I would think lately we maybe recieving more, given the link structures in some emails; so maybe it is a concern now? Sincerely, Judd --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RE: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware
Hans is moving the servers to a spiffy new hosting provider. Drupal is being upgraded by a team of volunteers. Drupal's mail features can be set for each user in the mailer functions. If you don't want your mail to be sent HTML, you can specify that under your list manager settings on the PLUG signup/management site. http://wiki.obnosis.com | http://hackfest.obnosis.com | http://nuke.obnosis.com Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:31:53 -0700 Subject: Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware From: pick...@gmail.com To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Not everyone wants to have change a setting while just trying to view their emails. Although to be fair I use gmail so I don't have to be concerned about it. But I am sure there are people on this list still using Pine or equiv, since that is and can be done via commandline like ssh from a phone. I am curious, how many truly html based emails do we get on this list? I would think lately we maybe recieving more, given the link structures in some emails; so maybe it is a concern now? Sincerely, Judd _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_012009--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Judd Pickell pick...@gmail.com wrote: Not everyone wants to have change a setting while just trying to view their emails. Although to be fair I use gmail so I don't have to be concerned about it. But I am sure there are people on this list still using Pine or equiv, since that is and can be done via commandline like ssh from a phone. Maybe those folks should just go back to using carrier pidgeons. Alternatives could include changing to using an email client that would support THEIR need to block or convert HTML to text. Expecting the rest of the world to change to do what they want is just wrong and ain't gonna happen. I am curious, how many truly html based emails do we get on this list? I would think lately we maybe recieving more, given the link structures in some emails; so maybe it is a concern now? I don't know but I did change to using plain text for some time because of the desires of certain people here. The loss of functionality was bothersome so I finally switched back to the rich text mode of gmail. I do understand that html CAN be used for harmful intent but then what can't? If you want to fear technology, don't use it! Sincerely, Judd --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Man is the only animal that laughs and weeps, for he is the only animal that is struck with the difference between what things are and what they ought to be. - William Hazlitt --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware
On Jan 29, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote: Hans is moving the servers to a spiffy new hosting provider. Drupal is being upgraded by a team of volunteers. Drupal's mail features can be set for each user in the mailer functions. If you don't want your mail to be sent HTML, you can specify that under your list manager settings on the PLUG signup/management site. The mailing list is run on Mailman. We won't be using Drupal for the mailing list, will we? Or is there some Drupal/Mailman connection going on? alex PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware
Maybe those folks should just go back to using carrier pidgeons. Alternatives could include changing to using an email client that would support THEIR need to block or convert HTML to text. Expecting the rest of the world to change to do what they want is just wrong and ain't gonna happen. I'm sorry but you seem to be overtly derogatory to those who could and probably are doing it. Just because you don't see the value in something doesn't make it irrelevant. I know of a sever guy that I chat with off list who does everything VI, and hates GUIs. For the record I wasn't saying we should or should not convert to HTML or text. I was only responding to the point of people didn't see why some would have issues with HTML. Sincerely, Judd Pickell --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
RE: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware
I think this is a Why Microsoft Suxs dig, you know? http://wiki.obnosis.com | http://hackfest.obnosis.com | http://nuke.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 PLUG HACKFESTS - http://uat.edu Second Saturday of Each Month Noon - 3PM Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:28:58 -0700 Subject: Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware From: pick...@gmail.com To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Maybe those folks should just go back to using carrier pidgeons. Alternatives could include changing to using an email client that would support THEIR need to block or convert HTML to text. Expecting the rest of the world to change to do what they want is just wrong and ain't gonna happen. I'm sorry but you seem to be overtly derogatory to those who could and probably are doing it. Just because you don't see the value in something doesn't make it irrelevant. I know of a sever guy that I chat with off list who does everything VI, and hates GUIs. For the record I wasn't saying we should or should not convert to HTML or text. I was only responding to the point of people didn't see why some would have issues with HTML. Sincerely, Judd Pickell _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_howitworks_012009--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Dazed_75 wrote: I don't know but I did change to using plain text for some time because of the desires of certain people here. The loss of functionality was bothersome so I finally switched back to the rich text mode of gmail. Excuse my ignorance but what functionality does HTML give you? -- Bob Holtzman Bother, said Pooh, as he chambered another round... --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Judd Pickell pick...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe those folks should just go back to using carrier pidgeons. Alternatives could include changing to using an email client that would support THEIR need to block or convert HTML to text. Expecting the rest of the world to change to do what they want is just wrong and ain't gonna happen. I'm sorry but you seem to be overtly derogatory to those who could and probably are doing it. Just because you don't see the value in something doesn't make it irrelevant. I know of a sever guy that I chat with off list who does everything VI, and hates GUIs. For the record I wasn't saying we should or should not convert to HTML or text. I was only responding to the point of people didn't see why some would have issues with HTML. Sincerely, Judd Pickell --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss No, not in any way derogatory. But when people expect me to change to satisfy what choices they make, there is something wrong. The attitude seemed to be that because some people want to be able to include rich formatting, graphics, and other things supported by HTML they should not do so because a minority did not want them to. -- Man is the only animal that laughs and weeps, for he is the only animal that is struck with the difference between what things are and what they ought to be. - William Hazlitt --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Dazed_75 wrote: I don't know but I did change to using plain text for some time because of the desires of certain people here. The loss of functionality was bothersome so I finally switched back to the rich text mode of gmail. Excuse my ignorance but what functionality does HTML give you? -- Bob Holtzman Bother, said Pooh, as he chambered another round... --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss To me that's like saying what functionality does a color tv have over black and white or what functionality does your ipod provide over my portable cassette player :) The ability to use bold, italic, underline, formatting, fonts, colors, hyperlinks and a lot of other things HTML gives you make email much more readable (yes some people do go overboard). Javascript should not be enabled in email clients but plain html is just fine (except for the blink tag). -- JD Austin Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC j...@twingeckos.com 480.288.8195x201 http://www.twingeckos.com Laurence J. Peter - It's better to have loved and lost than to have to do forty pounds of laundry a week. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Dazed_75 wrote: I don't know but I did change to using plain text for some time because of the desires of certain people here. The loss of functionality was bothersome so I finally switched back to the rich text mode of gmail. Excuse my ignorance but what functionality does HTML give you? -- Bob Holtzman Bother, said Pooh, as he chambered another round... --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss Multiple fonts, colors, highlighting, underlining, bold text, indenting, insert as quote, graphic leements, need I go on? While HTML may not be the only way to accomplish some of those things, it is extremely common. -- Man is the only animal that laughs and weeps, for he is the only animal that is struck with the difference between what things are and what they ought to be. - William Hazlitt --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware
Usually its pretty? On 1/29/09, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Dazed_75 wrote: I don't know but I did change to using plain text for some time because of the desires of certain people here. The loss of functionality was bothersome so I finally switched back to the rich text mode of gmail. Excuse my ignorance but what functionality does HTML give you? -- Bob Holtzman Bother, said Pooh, as he chambered another round... --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Sent from my mobile device A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Usually its pretty? Or maybe conveys information more efficiently? Larry --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Dazed_75 wrote: I don't know but I did change to using plain text for some time because of the desires of certain people here. The loss of functionality was bothersome so I finally switched back to the rich text mode of gmail. Excuse my ignorance but what functionality does HTML give you? You mean besides blinkblink/blink? ;-) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: HTML Emails -- Re: Other than frys where would you get server hardware
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Dazed_75 wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Dazed_75 wrote: I don't know but I did change to using plain text for some time because of the desires of certain people here. The loss of functionality was bothersome so I finally switched back to the rich text mode of gmail. Excuse my ignorance but what functionality does HTML give you? Multiple fonts, colors, highlighting, underlining, bold text, indenting, insert as quote, graphic leements, need I go on? While HTML may not be the only way to accomplish some of those things, it is extremely common. How does any of this add to the information content of the email? -- Bob Holtzman The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter. Winston Churchill --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
