Re: A baby-step in the right direction...
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Brian Cluff wrote: > We never did have a single IT person that worked at my school that > didn't fall in love with Linux... Even the Windows fanboys eventually > enjoyed not having to deal with viruses and such Windows annoyances. > > The attitude that I HATE to see is when an IT type specifically says > that he only installs and recommends Windows, not because it's the best > thing for the job or the customer, but that it is the best thing for > their job security. They usually even run Linux at home themselves, but > they just can't resist a sure thing with having to get paid large > amounts of money to come by and clean the gunk out of someone's system a > couple of times a year. sounds like our healthcare system... ;) -jmz > > Personally, I've found that I still get the work when I've installed > linux... it's just that the work is a lot more interesting than the same > old virus clean out, or system reload. > > Brian > > Stu wrote: >> Our main IT guy once told me he would *love* to see Ubuntu on the >> company desktops, unfortunately it's not his decision. >> >> On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 08:15 -0700, Stephen wrote: >>> After that step is Linux desktop installations :-D >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 4:21 AM, Stu wrote: Thanks! Phase II of my plan is to show it to my co-workers, and get them to request it on their computers as well... Today, the intranet... tomorrow, the WORLD! ...Muwhahahaha! On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 15:37 -0700, AZ RUNE wrote: > That is awesome and good work > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Stu wrote: > Just this past week, I finally convinced our new IT > director to install > the Windows version of Inkscape on my work computer since I've > been > using it for the past several years anyway. > A baby-step in the right direction for them, and I can > finally take my > old laptop home! > > Stu > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >> >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- http://www.google.com/profiles/jjzeidner http://www.joshuazeidner.com/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: A baby-step in the right direction...
We never did have a single IT person that worked at my school that didn't fall in love with Linux... Even the Windows fanboys eventually enjoyed not having to deal with viruses and such Windows annoyances. The attitude that I HATE to see is when an IT type specifically says that he only installs and recommends Windows, not because it's the best thing for the job or the customer, but that it is the best thing for their job security. They usually even run Linux at home themselves, but they just can't resist a sure thing with having to get paid large amounts of money to come by and clean the gunk out of someone's system a couple of times a year. Personally, I've found that I still get the work when I've installed linux... it's just that the work is a lot more interesting than the same old virus clean out, or system reload. Brian Stu wrote: > Our main IT guy once told me he would *love* to see Ubuntu on the > company desktops, unfortunately it's not his decision. > > On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 08:15 -0700, Stephen wrote: >> After that step is Linux desktop installations :-D >> >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 4:21 AM, Stu wrote: >>> Thanks! Phase II of my plan is to show it to my co-workers, and get them >>> to request it on their computers as well... >>> Today, the intranet... tomorrow, the WORLD! >>>...Muwhahahaha! >>> >>> On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 15:37 -0700, AZ RUNE wrote: That is awesome and good work On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Stu wrote: Just this past week, I finally convinced our new IT director to install the Windows version of Inkscape on my work computer since I've been using it for the past several years anyway. A baby-step in the right direction for them, and I can finally take my old laptop home! Stu --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: A baby-step in the right direction...
Our main IT guy once told me he would *love* to see Ubuntu on the company desktops, unfortunately it's not his decision. On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 08:15 -0700, Stephen wrote: > After that step is Linux desktop installations :-D > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 4:21 AM, Stu wrote: > > Thanks! Phase II of my plan is to show it to my co-workers, and get them > > to request it on their computers as well... > > Today, the intranet... tomorrow, the WORLD! > >...Muwhahahaha! > > > > On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 15:37 -0700, AZ RUNE wrote: > >> That is awesome and good work > >> > >> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Stu wrote: > >>Just this past week, I finally convinced our new IT > >> director to install > >> the Windows version of Inkscape on my work computer since I've > >> been > >> using it for the past several years anyway. > >>A baby-step in the right direction for them, and I can > >> finally take my > >> old laptop home! > >> > >>Stu > >> --- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > --- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: A baby-step in the right direction...
Our students computer use is pretty much limited to online research, video tutorials, and manuals, etc. One of my first Linux converts, an instructor who is actually much more knowledgeable about computers than I am, tells me that there is *nothing* we use in the classroom that can't be replaced with an open source alternative. Free software availability is a big plus to individuals, though. Of the dozen or so people that I have migrated to a Linux OS on their own computers, most of them take about 20 minutes to get familiar with it, then they take off on their own. My hope is to have enough Linux savvy Home users to establish in-house training through a company based LUG to mainline the rest if/when a company wide migration happens. On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 08:30 -0700, Brian Cluff wrote: > Make sure to do your home work on whatever software you are proposing at > the time. > For instance, if you want to propose the GIMP, make sure that you have > teaching materials, tutorials and other support sites at hand so that > whoever takes a look at your recommendation will immediately see that it > is a serious contender. > > Make sure you point out that all of this software is available to the > students at home at no cost. It's a lot easier for students to work on > assignments when any computer that they work on, including their own can > have the software available that they need. > > Brian > > Stu wrote: > > Thanks! Phase II of my plan is to show it to my co-workers, and get them > > to request it on their computers as well... > > Today, the intranet... tomorrow, the WORLD! > > ...Muwhahahaha! > > > > On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 15:37 -0700, AZ RUNE wrote: > >> That is awesome and good work > >> > >> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Stu wrote: > >>Just this past week, I finally convinced our new IT > >> director to install > >> the Windows version of Inkscape on my work computer since I've > >> been > >> using it for the past several years anyway. > >>A baby-step in the right direction for them, and I can > >> finally take my > >> old laptop home! > >> > >>Stu > >> --- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > --- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: A baby-step in the right direction...
I love the idea of FOSS for students in general. the reasons are plentiful! On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Brian Cluff wrote: > Make sure to do your home work on whatever software you are proposing at > the time. > For instance, if you want to propose the GIMP, make sure that you have > teaching materials, tutorials and other support sites at hand so that > whoever takes a look at your recommendation will immediately see that it > is a serious contender. > > Make sure you point out that all of this software is available to the > students at home at no cost. It's a lot easier for students to work on > assignments when any computer that they work on, including their own can > have the software available that they need. > > Brian > > Stu wrote: >> Thanks! Phase II of my plan is to show it to my co-workers, and get them >> to request it on their computers as well... >> Today, the intranet... tomorrow, the WORLD! >> ...Muwhahahaha! >> >> On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 15:37 -0700, AZ RUNE wrote: >>> That is awesome and good work >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Stu wrote: >>> Just this past week, I finally convinced our new IT >>> director to install >>> the Windows version of Inkscape on my work computer since I've >>> been >>> using it for the past several years anyway. >>> A baby-step in the right direction for them, and I can >>> finally take my >>> old laptop home! >>> >>> Stu >>> --- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: A baby-step in the right direction...
Make sure to do your home work on whatever software you are proposing at the time. For instance, if you want to propose the GIMP, make sure that you have teaching materials, tutorials and other support sites at hand so that whoever takes a look at your recommendation will immediately see that it is a serious contender. Make sure you point out that all of this software is available to the students at home at no cost. It's a lot easier for students to work on assignments when any computer that they work on, including their own can have the software available that they need. Brian Stu wrote: > Thanks! Phase II of my plan is to show it to my co-workers, and get them > to request it on their computers as well... > Today, the intranet... tomorrow, the WORLD! > ...Muwhahahaha! > > On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 15:37 -0700, AZ RUNE wrote: >> That is awesome and good work >> >> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Stu wrote: >>Just this past week, I finally convinced our new IT >> director to install >> the Windows version of Inkscape on my work computer since I've >> been >> using it for the past several years anyway. >>A baby-step in the right direction for them, and I can >> finally take my >> old laptop home! >> >>Stu >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: A baby-step in the right direction...
After that step is Linux desktop installations :-D On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 4:21 AM, Stu wrote: > Thanks! Phase II of my plan is to show it to my co-workers, and get them > to request it on their computers as well... > Today, the intranet... tomorrow, the WORLD! > ...Muwhahahaha! > > On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 15:37 -0700, AZ RUNE wrote: >> That is awesome and good work >> >> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Stu wrote: >> Just this past week, I finally convinced our new IT >> director to install >> the Windows version of Inkscape on my work computer since I've >> been >> using it for the past several years anyway. >> A baby-step in the right direction for them, and I can >> finally take my >> old laptop home! >> >> Stu >> --- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: A baby-step in the right direction...
Thanks! Phase II of my plan is to show it to my co-workers, and get them to request it on their computers as well... Today, the intranet... tomorrow, the WORLD! ...Muwhahahaha! On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 15:37 -0700, AZ RUNE wrote: > That is awesome and good work > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Stu wrote: >Just this past week, I finally convinced our new IT > director to install > the Windows version of Inkscape on my work computer since I've > been > using it for the past several years anyway. >A baby-step in the right direction for them, and I can > finally take my > old laptop home! > >Stu > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: A baby-step in the right direction...
That is awesome and good work On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Stu wrote: >Just this past week, I finally convinced our new IT director to > install > the Windows version of Inkscape on my work computer since I've been > using it for the past several years anyway. >A baby-step in the right direction for them, and I can finally take > my > old laptop home! > >Stu > --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
