Re: HP locking up

2012-11-09 Thread Dazed_75
Open the box again and check the cpu heat sink.  If it is not getting very
warm, it could be loose or poorly sealed with thermal material.  That could
make for intermittent heating problems.  You might have to remove and
remount the heat sink.

On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:42 AM, Derek Trotter expat.arizo...@gmail.comwrote:


 On 11/09/2012 12:19 AM, Dazed_75 wrote:

 I don't see anything to give me any definite clues.  But here are a couple
 of questions that might yield a clue:

1. Has this machine sat unused and not plugged in for any length of
time (could be the CMOS battery is dead/dieing)?

  I bought it in January and used it every day since then.  When it was a
 windows box, I would have it running for several days at a time doing my
 usenet harvesting.




1. When the machine is locked up, can you do Ctrl-Alt-F2 and get a
console (Ctrl-Alt-F7 to get back to the GUI)?

  I can't do anything with it.  I can't get to a console.  I can ping it
 when it's working normally, but when it locks up it doesn't respond to
 pings or anything else.  When it locks up it stops everything.  If I'm
 watching a movie on it when it locks up, the audio stops and the last frame
 is on the screen until I push the power button long enough for the machine
 to turn it off.   I have it and the other box plugged into a netgear
 router.  There's a light on the front of it for each computer that's
 plugged into it.  When I download using this machine, it's light on the
 router blinks.  When the machine locks up, it's light stops blinking.

 Also I opened it up and checked for dust bunnies.  There was a little
 dust, but not enough to cause any problems.  Today I opened a terminal and
 sensors -f.  I get results that vary between 40 and 60F.  I do believe I'm
 not getting an accurate reading because it's not that old in here.  Also I
 shut the machine down and checked the heat sink for the processor.  It
 wasn't even warm.



1. What, exactly, do you mean by locking up?  More specifically, can
you be sure that the machine is locked up or could it just be the display?
One way to test that theory is to ssh into the machine from another machine
and run some application that does updates like top or htop, or a looping
script displaying the time every few seconds.  If the machine seems to lock
up but the remote machine still shows ongoing changes, then it is not the
whole machine locking up.


 On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Derek Trotter 
 expat.arizo...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have an HP Pavillion p6-2003w pc.  This tinyurl
 http://tinyurl.com/b36tanr takes you to a page at HP that will give you
 details about what's in it if the following isn't enough.

 Motherboard
 AAHD2-HY (Holly)

 Processor
 AMD E2 3200 Processor

 Memory 4 GB
 Speed: PC3-10600 MB/sec
 Type: DDR3-1333

 Video graphics HD 6370D

 Sound/Audio Integrated Realtek ALC 656 Audio

 Networking
 LAN: 1000-Base-T
 Interface: PCI Express x1
 Technology: Realtek RTL8111E gigabit ethernet controller

 Hard drive 1 TB

 CD/DVD disc drive SuperMulti DVD Burner drive

 Memory card reader 6-in-1 multimedia card reader

 Power Supply Internal 300W (100V-240V)


 The problem is that it's been freezing at random.  It was really bad on
 Kubuntu 12.0.4 64 bit.  It was like the bad old windows 3.1 days. I never
 knew when it would lock up.  Sometimes it would run all night without any
 problems.  Other times it would lock up a few minutes after I rebooted it
 the last time it locked up.  Sometimes the image on the monitor would just
 freeze.  Other times the monitor would go to a background of either blue or
 gray with thin vertical lilnes.  I upgraded to Kubuntu 12.10 64 bit and it
 was a little more reliable.  Once it locked up and when I rebooted it, the
 sound card no longer worked.

 Is there some bug with this machine? Is there some problem with ubuntu?
  I'm wondering because last year my other computer behaved similarly. I
 posted the problem to this list and someone told me my problem was a
 defective nvidia card.  They made a bunch of chips that didn't get along
 with something in windows versions after xp and versions of ubuntu after, I
 believe 8.04.

 Any help will be apreciated.

 Thanks
 Derek


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Re: HP locking up

2012-11-09 Thread KevinO
Have you tried running memtest86 on it for a while?

http://www.memtest86.com/

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Re: HP locking up

2012-11-09 Thread Derek Trotter
I just got the beast rebooted after doing so.  The progress indicator 
got to 44% when the bottom  of the screen turned red and numbers started 
scrolling so fast they were a blur.  So I'm guessing the several million 
errors it found before I rebooted it just might have something to do 
with it.  So I'll send off for another stick of RAM.  Then I'll use the 
old one as something to put on the keyring.


Thanks for the suggestions folks.

On 11/09/2012 04:30 AM, KevinO wrote:

Have you tried running memtest86 on it for a while?

http://www.memtest86.com/



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Re: HP locking up

2012-11-08 Thread Derek Trotter


On 11/09/2012 12:19 AM, Dazed_75 wrote:
I don't see anything to give me any definite clues. But here are a 
couple of questions that might yield a clue:


 1. Has this machine sat unused and not plugged in for any length of
time (could be the CMOS battery is dead/dieing)?

I bought it in January and used it every day since then.  When it was a 
windows box, I would have it running for several days at a time doing my 
usenet harvesting.




 1. When the machine is locked up, can you do Ctrl-Alt-F2 and get a
console (Ctrl-Alt-F7 to get back to the GUI)?

I can't do anything with it.  I can't get to a console.  I can ping it 
when it's working normally, but when it locks up it doesn't respond to 
pings or anything else.  When it locks up it stops everything.  If I'm 
watching a movie on it when it locks up, the audio stops and the last 
frame is on the screen until I push the power button long enough for the 
machine to turn it off.   I have it and the other box plugged into a 
netgear router.  There's a light on the front of it for each computer 
that's plugged into it.  When I download using this machine, it's light 
on the router blinks.  When the machine locks up, it's light stops blinking.


Also I opened it up and checked for dust bunnies.  There was a little 
dust, but not enough to cause any problems.  Today I opened a terminal 
and sensors -f.  I get results that vary between 40 and 60F.  I do 
believe I'm not getting an accurate reading because it's not that old in 
here.  Also I shut the machine down and checked the heat sink for the 
processor.  It wasn't even warm.



 1. What, exactly, do you mean by locking up?  More specifically,
can you be sure that the machine is locked up or could it just be
the display?  One way to test that theory is to ssh into the
machine from another machine and run some application that does
updates like top or htop, or a looping script displaying the time
every few seconds.  If the machine seems to lock up but the remote
machine still shows ongoing changes, then it is not the whole
machine locking up.


On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Derek Trotter 
expat.arizo...@gmail.com mailto:expat.arizo...@gmail.com wrote:


I have an HP Pavillion p6-2003w pc.  This tinyurl
http://tinyurl.com/b36tanr takes you to a page at HP that will
give you details about what's in it if the following isn't enough.

Motherboard
AAHD2-HY (Holly)

Processor
AMD E2 3200 Processor

Memory 4 GB
Speed: PC3-10600 MB/sec
Type: DDR3-1333

Video graphics HD 6370D

Sound/Audio Integrated Realtek ALC 656 Audio

Networking
LAN: 1000-Base-T
Interface: PCI Express x1
Technology: Realtek RTL8111E gigabit ethernet controller

Hard drive 1 TB

CD/DVD disc drive SuperMulti DVD Burner drive

Memory card reader 6-in-1 multimedia card reader

Power Supply Internal 300W (100V-240V)


The problem is that it's been freezing at random.  It was really
bad on Kubuntu 12.0.4 64 bit.  It was like the bad old windows 3.1
days. I never knew when it would lock up.  Sometimes it would run
all night without any problems.  Other times it would lock up a
few minutes after I rebooted it the last time it locked up.
 Sometimes the image on the monitor would just freeze.  Other
times the monitor would go to a background of either blue or gray
with thin vertical lilnes.  I upgraded to Kubuntu 12.10 64 bit and
it was a little more reliable.  Once it locked up and when I
rebooted it, the sound card no longer worked.

Is there some bug with this machine? Is there some problem with
ubuntu?  I'm wondering because last year my other computer behaved
similarly. I posted the problem to this list and someone told me
my problem was a defective nvidia card.  They made a bunch of
chips that didn't get along with something in windows versions
after xp and versions of ubuntu after, I believe 8.04.

Any help will be apreciated.

Thanks
Derek


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