Re: OT: SOLVED: What Computer to Take to Coilege and Brand new iTouch for Sale
You can enable fixed IP addresses in OS X easily. You don't want a fixed IP address on something like a laptop that's going to roam to other networks though because it will not work very well if you don't have control over the network you're roaming to. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Mark Phillips wrote: > Well, my daughter prevailed and decided to take a 13" Mac to college > instead of the awesome 13" Linux notebook I was offering to her > (Debian with Virtual Windows for iTunes.it would have been > fantastic...). Her money, her choice. Alas, Lisa, she decided not to > go with the red caseit was my first choice as well...;-) > > I guess every family sooner or later has a macsheep of the family > pop up in the gene line.. > > With the Mac we got a new shiny 8GB iTouch that we don't need. It is > still in the unopened highly un-green plastic box. If anyone is > interested in buying it, please let me know off list. > > Mark > > P.S. An amusing side note. We have a wired/wireless network at home. > All of our computers have a fixed IP address (many Linux, 1 Windows, > now a.mac something). The wired router has DHCP enabled, but > not the wireless router. Anyway, she cannot connect the Mac wireless > network, so we called Apple. The agent on the line insisted that all > networks have to have DHCP enabled in order to work. In the Mac > networking screen, it has as options "DHCP" and "DHCP and manual", > where you enter a fixed IP address (but no netmask or other > networking bits). The agent said until we enable DHCP for the > wireless network, we had a broken network, and should call back > anther time when we had fixed the network problem, and then hung up! > My first experience with Apple support.not very satisfying. > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: SOLVED: What Computer to Take to Coilege and Brand new iTouch for Sale
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 11:14 -0700, Mark Phillips wrote: > P.S. An amusing side note. We have a wired/wireless network at home. > All of our computers have a fixed IP address (many Linux, 1 Windows, > now a.mac something). The wired router has DHCP enabled, but > not the wireless router. Anyway, she cannot connect the Mac wireless > network, so we called Apple. The agent on the line insisted that all > networks have to have DHCP enabled in order to work. In the Mac > networking screen, it has as options "DHCP" and "DHCP and manual", > where you enter a fixed IP address (but no netmask or other networking > bits). The agent said until we enable DHCP for the wireless network, > we had a broken network, and should call back anther time when we had > fixed the network problem, and then hung up! My first experience with > Apple support.not very satisfying. I am the last person to support Apple but I think that running 2 routers on one network does cause a number of issues with networking that you cannot expect them to solve. And if you have ever been routed to India for Quicken or Quark Express support, you will applaud Apple for their quality support. Unless you have some specific reason to two routers, the wireless 'router' should be put into some type of network 'bridge' or access point mode which turns off the router functions completely and just becomes another device on your one network that bridges your network to authorized wireless devices. At that point, when Apple asks about your setup, you only have 1 router. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: SOLVED: What Computer to Take to Coilege and Brand new iTouch for Sale
On 6/23/09, Mark Phillips wrote: > Well, my daughter prevailed and decided to take a 13" Mac to college instead > of the awesome 13" Linux notebook I was offering to her (Debian with Virtual > Windows for iTunes.it would have been fantastic...). Her money, her > choice. Alas, Lisa, she decided not to go with the red caseit was my > first choice as well...;-) At least it's not: http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/opinions.jpg She knows a good advertising campaign when she sees it. Besides it's running on BSD-ish - fully patched, fairly right brain-proof'd OS X! Be sure you fully protect her: http://www.geckoandfly.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/iworm_apple_mac_os_x_leopard_tiger_virus_torjan_anti_virus_download_free.jpg And resign yourself to watching the design quickly follow this: http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/imac.jpg > I guess every family sooner or later has a macsheep of the family pop up in > the gene line.. > > With the Mac we got a new shiny 8GB iTouch that we don't need. It is still > in the unopened highly un-green plastic box. If anyone is interested in > buying it, please let me know off list. > > Mark > > P.S. An amusing side note. We have a wired/wireless network at home. All of > our computers have a fixed IP address (many Linux, 1 Windows, now > a.mac something). The wired router has DHCP enabled, but not the > wireless router. Anyway, she cannot connect the Mac wireless network, so we > called Apple. The agent on the line insisted that all networks have to have > DHCP enabled in order to work. In the Mac networking screen, it has as > options "DHCP" and "DHCP and manual", where you enter a fixed IP address > (but no netmask or other networking bits). The agent said until we enable > DHCP for the wireless network, we had a broken network, and should call back > anther time when we had fixed the network problem, and then hung up! My > first experience with Apple support.not very satisfying. > -- (503)754-4452 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LisaKachold http://tinyurl.com/44zfgx http://www.obnosis.com/motivation/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: SOLVED: What Computer to Take to Coilege and Brand new iTouch for Sale
and rember, you cna put linux on that mac if it starts to be horrible :-) On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > On 6/23/09, Mark Phillips wrote: >> Well, my daughter prevailed and decided to take a 13" Mac to college instead >> of the awesome 13" Linux notebook I was offering to her (Debian with Virtual >> Windows for iTunes.it would have been fantastic...). Her money, her >> choice. Alas, Lisa, she decided not to go with the red caseit was my >> first choice as well...;-) > > At least it's not: > http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/opinions.jpg > > She knows a good advertising campaign when she sees it. Besides it's > running on BSD-ish - fully patched, fairly right brain-proof'd OS X! > > Be sure you fully protect her: > http://www.geckoandfly.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/iworm_apple_mac_os_x_leopard_tiger_virus_torjan_anti_virus_download_free.jpg > > And resign yourself to watching the design quickly follow this: > http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/imac.jpg > > >> I guess every family sooner or later has a macsheep of the family pop up in >> the gene line.. >> >> With the Mac we got a new shiny 8GB iTouch that we don't need. It is still >> in the unopened highly un-green plastic box. If anyone is interested in >> buying it, please let me know off list. >> >> Mark >> >> P.S. An amusing side note. We have a wired/wireless network at home. All of >> our computers have a fixed IP address (many Linux, 1 Windows, now >> a.mac something). The wired router has DHCP enabled, but not the >> wireless router. Anyway, she cannot connect the Mac wireless network, so we >> called Apple. The agent on the line insisted that all networks have to have >> DHCP enabled in order to work. In the Mac networking screen, it has as >> options "DHCP" and "DHCP and manual", where you enter a fixed IP address >> (but no netmask or other networking bits). The agent said until we enable >> DHCP for the wireless network, we had a broken network, and should call back >> anther time when we had fixed the network problem, and then hung up! My >> first experience with Apple support.not very satisfying. >> > > > -- > (503)754-4452 > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LisaKachold > http://tinyurl.com/44zfgx http://www.obnosis.com/motivation/ > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: SOLVED: What Computer to Take to Coilege and Brand new iTouch for Sale
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Craig White wrote: > On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 11:14 -0700, Mark Phillips wrote: > > > P.S. An amusing side note. We have a wired/wireless network at home. > > All of our computers have a fixed IP address (many Linux, 1 Windows, > > now a.mac something). The wired router has DHCP enabled, but > > not the wireless router. Anyway, she cannot connect the Mac wireless > > network, so we called Apple. The agent on the line insisted that all > > networks have to have DHCP enabled in order to work. In the Mac > > networking screen, it has as options "DHCP" and "DHCP and manual", > > where you enter a fixed IP address (but no netmask or other networking > > bits). The agent said until we enable DHCP for the wireless network, > > we had a broken network, and should call back anther time when we had > > fixed the network problem, and then hung up! My first experience with > > Apple support.not very satisfying. > > I am the last person to support Apple but I think that running 2 routers > on one network does cause a number of issues with networking that you > cannot expect them to solve. And if you have ever been routed to India > for Quicken or Quark Express support, you will applaud Apple for their > quality support. > > Unless you have some specific reason to two routers, the wireless > 'router' should be put into some type of network 'bridge' or access > point mode which turns off the router functions completely and just > becomes another device on your one network that bridges your network to > authorized wireless devices. At that point, when Apple asks about your > setup, you only have 1 router. > > Craig > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > Craig, > My bad...the box is a Linksys router/wireless access point with all the router functions turned off. It functions as a wireless access point only. I told the agent there was one router. What I didn't like is (1) his arrogance about all networks have to have DHCP enabled and (2) hanging up on me when I was not being rude, just trying to bridge his training with my experiences. Thanks for your comments.wanna buy an iTouch ;-) Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: SOLVED: What Computer to Take to Coilege and Brand new iTouch for Sale
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Stephen wrote: > and rember, you cna put linux on that mac if it starts to be horrible :-) > At this point, I am not allowed to touch it, nor are her sisters and mother..Maybe in a year or so, if I can learn how to ssh into it and remotely install Debian. Then set it up so gnome looks like a Mac...H:-) Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: SOLVED: What Computer to Take to Coilege and Brand new iTouch for Sale
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > Be sure you fully protect her: > > http://www.geckoandfly.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/iworm_apple_mac_os_x_leopard_tiger_virus_torjan_anti_virus_download_free.jpg > OK, oh security goddess of PLUG - what do I need to install to protect her? The Apple sales person was adament that no protection was needed... Mark --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: SOLVED: What Computer to Take to Coilege and Brand new iTouch for Sale
i know that noscript would be first on her list of suggestions... or at least 3rd... On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Lisa Kachold > wrote: >> >> Be sure you fully protect her: >> >> http://www.geckoandfly.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/iworm_apple_mac_os_x_leopard_tiger_virus_torjan_anti_virus_download_free.jpg > > OK, oh security goddess of PLUG - what do I need to install to protect her? > The Apple sales person was adament that no protection was needed... > > Mark > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: SOLVED: What Computer to Take to Coilege and Brand new iTouch for Sale
Security (it's a NIX after all): 1) Browser Javascript protection. I.E. Firefox/NoScript Apple - Downloads - Internet Utilities - Mozilla Firefox... www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/.../mozillafirefox.html NoScript :: Add-ons for Firefox https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/722 - Cached - Similar - 2) Clamav - antivirus protection. ClamXav ClamXav is a free virus checker for Mac OS X. It uses the tried, tested and very popular ClamAV open source antivirus engine as a back end. ... Download Page - OS X Trojan www.clamxav.com/ 3) VPN to your equipment (router/switch/Desktop OpenVPN) Tunnelblick tunnelblick - Google Code www.tunnelblick.net/ - Cached - Similar - 4) Configuration: a) Setup her firewall to exclude all inbound and allow only 443,80 - seriously. Not kidding! b) Setup her system to require she login, not auto login. c) Optionally - encrypt her a Disk Image If you're hesitant about encrypting your entire Home directory but need to safeguard a few sensitive files, store them in an encrypted disk image instead. To make one, launch Disk Utility (found in Applications: Utilities), click on New Image, and then choose AES-128 from the Encryption pull-down menu. d) Add Tracking software =(theft is huge): http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/25253 Hey it costs $9.00 - get used it to (Mac is not Open Source (but still "Open Sores"). http://j-walk.com/other/ossw/images/logo2.jpg On 6/23/09, Mark Phillips wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Lisa Kachold > wrote: > >> Be sure you fully protect her: >> >> http://www.geckoandfly.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/iworm_apple_mac_os_x_leopard_tiger_virus_torjan_anti_virus_download_free.jpg >> > OK, oh security goddess of PLUG - what do I need to install to protect her? > The Apple sales person was adament that no protection was needed... > > Mark > -- (503)754-4452 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LisaKachold http://tinyurl.com/44zfgx http://www.obnosis.com/motivation/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: SOLVED: What Computer to Take to Coilege and Brand new iTouch for Sale
On Jun 23, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: > At this point, I am not allowed to touch it, nor are her sisters and > mother. Why not suggest that *she* install Linux on it so she can 'try out' Boot Camp? -- Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity. -Frank William Leahy, football coach (1908-1973) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: SOLVED: What Computer to Take to Coilege and Brand new iTouch for Sale
On Jun 23, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > Setup her firewall to exclude all inbound I've seem this advice quite e few times but I have also seen the opposite: don't bother to block inbound ports where no service is enabled. I've always thought the latter advice made more sense intuitively. Unless there are things that I don't know about like trojans that enable services, I simply can't see any point to blocking requests to ports where there is no service running. I'm always willing to learn. -- Conscience is thoroughly well-bred and soon leaves off talking to those who do not wish to hear it. -Samuel Butler, writer (1835-1902) --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: SOLVED: What Computer to Take to Coilege and Brand new iTouch for Sale
On Jun 23, 2009, at 12:37 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Lisa Kachold > wrote: > Be sure you fully protect her: > http://www.geckoandfly.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/iworm_apple_mac_os_x_leopard_tiger_virus_torjan_anti_virus_download_free.jpg > OK, oh security goddess of PLUG - what do I need to install to > protect her? The Apple sales person was adament that no protection > was needed... The important things are that she not install programs that promise to enable viewing otherwise inaccessible porn sites and that she stay away from programs that promise to update he commercial software unless they are from the original vendor. If she really want's to be paranoid, VirusBarrier X5 from Intego software is the best commercial solution and ClamXav is the best freeware. Best security advice for Mac Users: Don't check any of the boxes in System Preferences->Sharing until you know what you are doing. -- Vegetarians eat Vegetables, Humanitarians frighten me --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: SOLVED: What Computer to Take to Coilege and Brand new iTouch for Sale
http://www.obnosis.com/motivatebytruth/hackers.jpg On 6/23/09, Chris Gehlker wrote: > > On Jun 23, 2009, at 12:37 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Lisa Kachold > > wrote: >> Be sure you fully protect her: >> http://www.geckoandfly.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/iworm_apple_mac_os_x_leopard_tiger_virus_torjan_anti_virus_download_free.jpg >> OK, oh security goddess of PLUG - what do I need to install to >> protect her? The Apple sales person was adament that no protection >> was needed... > > The important things are that she not install programs that promise to > enable viewing otherwise inaccessible porn sites and that she stay > away from programs that promise to update he commercial software > unless they are from the original vendor. If she really want's to be > paranoid, VirusBarrier X5 from Intego software is the best commercial > solution and ClamXav is the best freeware. > > Best security advice for Mac Users: Don't check any of the boxes in > System Preferences->Sharing until you know what you are doing. > > -- > Vegetarians eat Vegetables, Humanitarians frighten me > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- (503)754-4452 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LisaKachold http://tinyurl.com/44zfgx http://www.obnosis.com/motivation/ --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT: SOLVED: What Computer to Take to Coilege and Brand new iTouch for Sale
Generally if its exposed to the internet block it with a drop and then open the holes you want/need. On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Chris Gehlker wrote: > > On Jun 23, 2009, at 12:37 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Lisa Kachold > > wrote: >> Be sure you fully protect her: >> http://www.geckoandfly.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/iworm_apple_mac_os_x_leopard_tiger_virus_torjan_anti_virus_download_free.jpg >> OK, oh security goddess of PLUG - what do I need to install to >> protect her? The Apple sales person was adament that no protection >> was needed... > > The important things are that she not install programs that promise to > enable viewing otherwise inaccessible porn sites and that she stay > away from programs that promise to update he commercial software > unless they are from the original vendor. If she really want's to be > paranoid, VirusBarrier X5 from Intego software is the best commercial > solution and ClamXav is the best freeware. > > Best security advice for Mac Users: Don't check any of the boxes in > System Preferences->Sharing until you know what you are doing. > > -- > Vegetarians eat Vegetables, Humanitarians frighten me > > > --- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
