Re: RC Service Order
Eric Cope wrote: Hello all, Does anyone know how to change the order in which services are started using the rc script? My particular system is FreeBSD, but Linux is similar (right?)? Eric I will assume it is similar to slackware where a single script is used to load the system. I would suggest making several backup copies of the original, then use your favorite text editor and move things around in the script until you get your desired order... Obviously if one thing depends on another you might be up a creek, so keep a knoppix disc handy... If you can be more specific we can too... nathan --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: RC Service Order
From my understanding changing the number in /etc/rc.d/rc*.d/K* or /etc/rc.d/rc*.d/S* changes the order. If two have the same number they go alphabetically. -- JD Austin Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC j...@twingeckos.com 480.288.8195x201 http://www.twingeckos.com Jonathan Swifthttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/jonathan_swift.html - May you live every day of your life. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, Does anyone know how to change the order in which services are started using the rc script? My particular system is FreeBSD, but Linux is similar (right?)? Eric -- Eric Cope http://cope-et-al.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: RC Service Order
I need openvpn, then samba, and finally pf (packet filter). Its currently the reverse order. I know where the conf file is, where is the script? Eric On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Nathan England nat...@paysonlinux.orgwrote: Eric Cope wrote: Hello all, Does anyone know how to change the order in which services are started using the rc script? My particular system is FreeBSD, but Linux is similar (right?)? Eric I will assume it is similar to slackware where a single script is used to load the system. I would suggest making several backup copies of the original, then use your favorite text editor and move things around in the script until you get your desired order... Obviously if one thing depends on another you might be up a creek, so keep a knoppix disc handy... If you can be more specific we can too... nathan --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Eric Cope http://cope-et-al.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: RC Service Order
Eric Cope wrote: I need openvpn, then samba, and finally pf (packet filter). Its currently the reverse order. I know where the conf file is, where is the script? Eric usually it would be /etc/rc.sysinit /etc/rc.multi look at your /etc/inittab file and it will tell you what script runs for what run level and maybe you can figure it out. Once you know, just re arrange the order of those services in the script. nathan --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: RC Service Order
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 18:38 -0700, Eric Cope wrote: I need openvpn, then samba, and finally pf (packet filter). Its currently the reverse order. I know where the conf file is, where is the script? I don't know enough about BSD but in general, you want the packet filter scripts to run early, even before network devices are up and running because if you have a system hang in between starting the network devices and the packet filtering, you have a very exposed system. I would suspect that the reason you are wanting to fiddle with what is probably an already well considered sequence is to try to get around a problem that should probably be solved elsewhere. It seems to me that having pf, samba and openvpn load in this order is the logical way. Whatever problems you are experiencing are probably best solved without tinkering with this. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: RC Service Order
JD Austin wrote: From my understanding changing the number in /etc/rc.d/rc*.d/K* or /etc/rc.d/rc*.d/S* changes the order. If two have the same number they go alphabetically. THis is correct. -- JD Austin Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC j...@twingeckos.com 480.288.8195x201 http://www.twingeckos.com Jonathan Swifthttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/jonathan_swift.html - May you live every day of your life. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, Does anyone know how to change the order in which services are started using the rc script? My particular system is FreeBSD, but Linux is similar (right?)? Eric -- Eric Cope http://cope-et-al.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 Please refrain from mailing me directly in replies, I am subsribing via GMane NNTP. Thank you. Fortune: Sic transit discus mundi -- From the System Administrator's Guide, by Lars Wirzenius http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonale...@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonale...@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash| Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: phrkon...@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: RC Service Order
Ryan Rix wrote: JD Austin wrote: From my understanding changing the number in /etc/rc.d/rc*.d/K* or /etc/rc.d/rc*.d/S* changes the order. If two have the same number they go alphabetically. THis is correct. Yes, except in BSD they do not use SysV init scripts like you are expecting in rpm or deb based systems. BSD is based on a couple of scripts used to start all the services. You can add SysV init support, but by default... nathan --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: RC Service Order
Why must all rc systems be different? bleh. Here's the link to freebsd's stuff. The dependency stuff at the bottom is what you're looking for. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/configtuning-rcd.html On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Nathan England nat...@paysonlinux.orgwrote: Ryan Rix wrote: JD Austin wrote: From my understanding changing the number in /etc/rc.d/rc*.d/K* or /etc/rc.d/rc*.d/S* changes the order. If two have the same number they go alphabetically. THis is correct. Yes, except in BSD they do not use SysV init scripts like you are expecting in rpm or deb based systems. BSD is based on a couple of scripts used to start all the services. You can add SysV init support, but by default... nathan --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- James McPhee jmc...@gmail.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: RC Service Order
That was my concern. However, PF fails to start properly because the VPN TUN interface isn't established yet. Have you had issues like this on other systems? Eric On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 18:38 -0700, Eric Cope wrote: I need openvpn, then samba, and finally pf (packet filter). Its currently the reverse order. I know where the conf file is, where is the script? I don't know enough about BSD but in general, you want the packet filter scripts to run early, even before network devices are up and running because if you have a system hang in between starting the network devices and the packet filtering, you have a very exposed system. I would suspect that the reason you are wanting to fiddle with what is probably an already well considered sequence is to try to get around a problem that should probably be solved elsewhere. It seems to me that having pf, samba and openvpn load in this order is the logical way. Whatever problems you are experiencing are probably best solved without tinkering with this. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Eric Cope http://cope-et-al.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: RC Service Order
I don't recall ever creating firewall rules for the tun or tap interfaces. Craig On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 20:18 -0700, Eric Cope wrote: That was my concern. However, PF fails to start properly because the VPN TUN interface isn't established yet. Have you had issues like this on other systems? Eric On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 18:38 -0700, Eric Cope wrote: I need openvpn, then samba, and finally pf (packet filter). Its currently the reverse order. I know where the conf file is, where is the script? I don't know enough about BSD but in general, you want the packet filter scripts to run early, even before network devices are up and running because if you have a system hang in between starting the network devices and the packet filtering, you have a very exposed system. I would suspect that the reason you are wanting to fiddle with what is probably an already well considered sequence is to try to get around a problem that should probably be solved elsewhere. It seems to me that having pf, samba and openvpn load in this order is the logical way. Whatever problems you are experiencing are probably best solved without tinkering with this. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: RC Service Order
is this because you can rely on the VPN to properly protect access to it through the vpn mechanisms? Eric On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: I don't recall ever creating firewall rules for the tun or tap interfaces. Craig On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 20:18 -0700, Eric Cope wrote: That was my concern. However, PF fails to start properly because the VPN TUN interface isn't established yet. Have you had issues like this on other systems? Eric On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 18:38 -0700, Eric Cope wrote: I need openvpn, then samba, and finally pf (packet filter). Its currently the reverse order. I know where the conf file is, where is the script? I don't know enough about BSD but in general, you want the packet filter scripts to run early, even before network devices are up and running because if you have a system hang in between starting the network devices and the packet filtering, you have a very exposed system. I would suspect that the reason you are wanting to fiddle with what is probably an already well considered sequence is to try to get around a problem that should probably be solved elsewhere. It seems to me that having pf, samba and openvpn load in this order is the logical way. Whatever problems you are experiencing are probably best solved without tinkering with this. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Eric Cope http://cope-et-al.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: RC Service Order
Craig White wrote: I don't recall ever creating firewall rules for the tun or tap interfaces. Craig On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 20:18 -0700, Eric Cope wrote: That was my concern. However, PF fails to start properly because the VPN TUN interface isn't established yet. Have you had issues like this on other systems? Eric In my head, it seems that the network interfaces in general may not be up yet but the PF rules are loading okay. That means the device is found, though it has not been given instruction. Is it possible the modules for the tun and tap devices have not been loaded yet so the PF is failing because the devices do not exist yet? Rather than moving anything around, can you add a line to your rc conf file to load the modules before the PF starts??? modprobe tun Is there a module for tap? I don't recall off the top of my head. nathan --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: RC Service Order
modprobe must be a linux thing. Its not found. Eric On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Nathan England nat...@paysonlinux.orgwrote: Craig White wrote: I don't recall ever creating firewall rules for the tun or tap interfaces. Craig On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 20:18 -0700, Eric Cope wrote: That was my concern. However, PF fails to start properly because the VPN TUN interface isn't established yet. Have you had issues like this on other systems? Eric In my head, it seems that the network interfaces in general may not be up yet but the PF rules are loading okay. That means the device is found, though it has not been given instruction. Is it possible the modules for the tun and tap devices have not been loaded yet so the PF is failing because the devices do not exist yet? Rather than moving anything around, can you add a line to your rc conf file to load the modules before the PF starts??? modprobe tun Is there a module for tap? I don't recall off the top of my head. nathan --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Eric Cope http://cope-et-al.com --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
