Re: website hosting

2012-01-22 Thread Steven Ziskin-Bailey 
Full Disclosure: I work for GoDaddy.com, my opinions however are my own and
I am not speaking for GoDaddy.com or in an official respect for GoDaddy.com.


Your question is a bit open ended, what do you plan on doing with said
website?  Is it just a personal wordpress blog?  Something serious?  If
it's something serious I would look at the grid hosting packages... They're
a little bit more expensive, but you get a load balanced cluster serving
your page compared to a single server.  (obviously if it's just a tinker
about personal site... you don't need the whole redundancy thing as our
uptime is pretty good by industry standards).

With the grid and economy hosting you lost the whole website tonight
functionality.  But if you know html, or are having someone else design it
for you -- that's not too big of a deal.

If you can respond with more specifics as to what you're looking for... I'm
sure the list could help you out.

-Steven Bailey.


On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> Well, I'm going to to register my first domain and get hosting with
> godaddy (unless you know of something better). Anyways, I don't know which
> hosting plan to go with, web hosting economy or 5-page website builder. I'm
> thinking webhosting economy but the description godaddy gives isn't very
> descriptive. So I suppose I should ask you guys who know more about these
> things then me what the pros and cons are of these different services.
>
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Re: website hosting

2012-01-22 Thread Bryan O'Neal 
I by domains mostly for the portable personal email address. As far as
hosting I would go with the $6/mo plan and do the on click wordpress
install.

On 1/22/12, R P Herrold  wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2012, Michael Havens wrote:
>
>> Well, I'm going to to register my first domain and get
>> hosting with godaddy (unless you know of something better).
>> Anyways, I don't know which hosting plan to go with, web
>> hosting economy or 5-page website builder.
>
> It rather depends on WHY you feel the need for a domain, and
> one assumes (b/c of the mention of hosting, and the subject
> line) website
>
> blog sites are free with a google account at blogspot.com.
> email handling in a custom domain is free for up to ten users
> with google apps (down a rather had to find link).  mimimal
> websites are free thru google sites, as well.  domain
> registrations are $10 a year at google apps [they hand off the
> registration to emon or go-daddy, which is a hard price to
> get under for a low volume domain registrant
>
> But all this is self support and has no learning opportunity;
> if you want to have a live person at the other end of the
> phone to ask questions of, you may want more
>
> Not enough info to really frame a good answer
>
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Re: website hosting

2012-01-22 Thread keith smith 

Go to HostGator.  Better deal.  GoDaddy is solid, however I like HostGator 
better.  I host both places.  



Keith Smith

--- On Sun, 1/22/12, Bryan O'Neal  wrote:

From: Bryan O'Neal 
Subject: Re: website hosting
To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
Date: Sunday, January 22, 2012, 8:06 PM

I by domains mostly for the portable personal email address. As far as
hosting I would go with the $6/mo plan and do the on click wordpress
install.

On 1/22/12, R P Herrold  wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2012, Michael Havens wrote:
>
>> Well, I'm going to to register my first domain and get
>> hosting with godaddy (unless you know of something better).
>> Anyways, I don't know which hosting plan to go with, web
>> hosting economy or 5-page website builder.
>
> It rather depends on WHY you feel the need for a domain, and
> one assumes (b/c of the mention of hosting, and the subject
> line) website
>
> blog sites are free with a google account at blogspot.com.
> email handling in a custom domain is free for up to ten users
> with google apps (down a rather had to find link).  mimimal
> websites are free thru google sites, as well.  domain
> registrations are $10 a year at google apps [they hand off the
> registration to emon or go-daddy, which is a hard price to
> get under for a low volume domain registrant
>
> But all this is self support and has no learning opportunity;
> if you want to have a live person at the other end of the
> phone to ask questions of, you may want more
>
> Not enough info to really frame a good answer
>
> -- Russ herrold
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Re: website hosting

2012-01-22 Thread keith smith 

GoDaddy :  http://www.godaddy.com/hosting/web-hosting.aspx?ci=9009  Go wit the 
econ on Linux.

HostGator   http://www.hostgator.com/shared.shtml Go with Hatchling  

I like Host Gator better.  



Keith Smith

--- On Sun, 1/22/12, Michael Havens  wrote:

From: Michael Havens 
Subject: website hosting
To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
Date: Sunday, January 22, 2012, 7:11 PM

Well, I'm going to to register my first domain and get hosting with godaddy 
(unless you know of something better). Anyways, I don't know which hosting plan 
to go with, web hosting economy or 5-page website builder. I'm thinking 
webhosting economy but the description godaddy gives isn't very descriptive. So 
I suppose I should ask you guys who know more about these things then me what 
the pros and cons are of these different services.


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Re: website hosting

2012-01-22 Thread JD Austin 
I second Hostgator

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 20:18, keith smith  wrote:

>
> Go to HostGator.  Better deal.  GoDaddy is solid, however I like HostGator
> better.  I host both places.
>
> 
> Keith Smith
>
> --- On *Sun, 1/22/12, Bryan O'Neal 
> * wrote:
>
>
> From: Bryan O'Neal 
> Subject: Re: website hosting
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
> Date: Sunday, January 22, 2012, 8:06 PM
>
>
> I by domains mostly for the portable personal email address. As far as
> hosting I would go with the $6/mo plan and do the on click wordpress
> install.
>
> On 1/22/12, R P Herrold 
> http://mc/compose?to=herr...@owlriver.com>>
> wrote:
> > On Sun, 22 Jan 2012, Michael Havens wrote:
> >
> >> Well, I'm going to to register my first domain and get
> >> hosting with godaddy (unless you know of something better).
> >> Anyways, I don't know which hosting plan to go with, web
> >> hosting economy or 5-page website builder.
> >
> > It rather depends on WHY you feel the need for a domain, and
> > one assumes (b/c of the mention of hosting, and the subject
> > line) website
> >
> > blog sites are free with a google account at blogspot.com.
> > email handling in a custom domain is free for up to ten users
> > with google apps (down a rather had to find link).  mimimal
> > websites are free thru google sites, as well.  domain
> > registrations are $10 a year at google apps [they hand off the
> > registration to emon or go-daddy, which is a hard price to
> > get under for a low volume domain registrant
> >
> > But all this is self support and has no learning opportunity;
> > if you want to have a live person at the other end of the
> > phone to ask questions of, you may want more
> >
> > Not enough info to really frame a good answer
> >
> > -- Russ herrold
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Re: website hosting

2012-01-22 Thread Michael Havens 
My babies live in a foreign land and I want to start a website where
fathers in a similar situation can share with each other. I suppose it
would be more of a bulletin board.

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Steven Ziskin-Bailey wrote:

> Full Disclosure: I work for GoDaddy.com, my opinions however are my own
> and I am not speaking for GoDaddy.com or in an official respect for
> GoDaddy.com.
>
>
> Your question is a bit open ended, what do you plan on doing with said
> website?  Is it just a personal wordpress blog?  Something serious?  If
> it's something serious I would look at the grid hosting packages... They're
> a little bit more expensive, but you get a load balanced cluster serving
> your page compared to a single server.  (obviously if it's just a tinker
> about personal site... you don't need the whole redundancy thing as our
> uptime is pretty good by industry standards).
>
> With the grid and economy hosting you lost the whole website tonight
> functionality.  But if you know html, or are having someone else design it
> for you -- that's not too big of a deal.
>
> If you can respond with more specifics as to what you're looking for...
> I'm sure the list could help you out.
>
> -Steven Bailey.
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>
>> Well, I'm going to to register my first domain and get hosting with
>> godaddy (unless you know of something better). Anyways, I don't know which
>> hosting plan to go with, web hosting economy or 5-page website builder. I'm
>> thinking webhosting economy but the description godaddy gives isn't very
>> descriptive. So I suppose I should ask you guys who know more about these
>> things then me what the pros and cons are of these different services.
>>
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Re: website hosting

2012-01-22 Thread Michael Havens 
hostgator? why do you prefer them?
what about registering a domain name?
if I do hosting with godaddy the domain registration is only 1.99. but they
fail to sat what hosting costs after the year is up.

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 8:22 PM, JD Austin  wrote:

> I second Hostgator
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 20:18, keith smith  wrote:
>
>>
>> Go to HostGator.  Better deal.  GoDaddy is solid, however I like
>> HostGator better.  I host both places.
>>
>> 
>> Keith Smith
>>
>> --- On *Sun, 1/22/12, Bryan O'Neal > >* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Bryan O'Neal 
>> Subject: Re: website hosting
>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
>> Date: Sunday, January 22, 2012, 8:06 PM
>>
>>
>> I by domains mostly for the portable personal email address. As far as
>> hosting I would go with the $6/mo plan and do the on click wordpress
>> install.
>>
>> On 1/22/12, R P Herrold 
>> http://mc/compose?to=herr...@owlriver.com>>
>> wrote:
>> > On Sun, 22 Jan 2012, Michael Havens wrote:
>> >
>> >> Well, I'm going to to register my first domain and get
>> >> hosting with godaddy (unless you know of something better).
>> >> Anyways, I don't know which hosting plan to go with, web
>> >> hosting economy or 5-page website builder.
>> >
>> > It rather depends on WHY you feel the need for a domain, and
>> > one assumes (b/c of the mention of hosting, and the subject
>> > line) website
>> >
>> > blog sites are free with a google account at blogspot.com.
>> > email handling in a custom domain is free for up to ten users
>> > with google apps (down a rather had to find link).  mimimal
>> > websites are free thru google sites, as well.  domain
>> > registrations are $10 a year at google apps [they hand off the
>> > registration to emon or go-daddy, which is a hard price to
>> > get under for a low volume domain registrant
>> >
>> > But all this is self support and has no learning opportunity;
>> > if you want to have a live person at the other end of the
>> > phone to ask questions of, you may want more
>> >
>> > Not enough info to really frame a good answer
>> >
>> > -- Russ herrold
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Re: website hosting

2012-01-22 Thread Steven Ziskin-Bailey 
Economy hosting seems like it'd be your best bet then.

Don't get discouraged by the seemingly endless paths / choices you can
make. :)

Good luck!

-Steven Bailey.


On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> My babies live in a foreign land and I want to start a website where
> fathers in a similar situation can share with each other. I suppose it
> would be more of a bulletin board.
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Steven Ziskin-Bailey 
> wrote:
>
>> Full Disclosure: I work for GoDaddy.com, my opinions however are my own
>> and I am not speaking for GoDaddy.com or in an official respect for
>> GoDaddy.com.
>>
>>
>> Your question is a bit open ended, what do you plan on doing with said
>> website?  Is it just a personal wordpress blog?  Something serious?  If
>> it's something serious I would look at the grid hosting packages... They're
>> a little bit more expensive, but you get a load balanced cluster serving
>> your page compared to a single server.  (obviously if it's just a tinker
>> about personal site... you don't need the whole redundancy thing as our
>> uptime is pretty good by industry standards).
>>
>> With the grid and economy hosting you lost the whole website tonight
>> functionality.  But if you know html, or are having someone else design it
>> for you -- that's not too big of a deal.
>>
>> If you can respond with more specifics as to what you're looking for...
>> I'm sure the list could help you out.
>>
>> -Steven Bailey.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I'm going to to register my first domain and get hosting with
>>> godaddy (unless you know of something better). Anyways, I don't know which
>>> hosting plan to go with, web hosting economy or 5-page website builder. I'm
>>> thinking webhosting economy but the description godaddy gives isn't very
>>> descriptive. So I suppose I should ask you guys who know more about these
>>> things then me what the pros and cons are of these different services.
>>>
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Re: website hosting

2012-01-23 Thread keith smith 

You might want to look into a CMS.  I'd recommend Drupal because it is a great 
framework and once you learn more programming you will be a ble to do anything 
you want with it.  

There is a steep learning curve, however I think it is worth it.   



Keith Smith

--- On Sun, 1/22/12, Michael Havens  wrote:

From: Michael Havens 
Subject: Re: website hosting
To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
Date: Sunday, January 22, 2012, 8:55 PM

My babies live in a foreign land and I want to start a website where fathers in 
a similar situation can share with each other. I suppose it would be more of a 
bulletin board.

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Steven Ziskin-Bailey  wrote:

Full Disclosure: I work for GoDaddy.com, my opinions however are my own and I 
am not speaking for GoDaddy.com or in an official respect for GoDaddy.com.


Your question is a bit open ended, what do you plan on doing with said website? 
 Is it just a personal wordpress blog?  Something serious?  If it's something 
serious I would look at the grid hosting packages... They're a little bit more 
expensive, but you get a load balanced cluster serving your page compared to a 
single server.  (obviously if it's just a tinker about personal site... you 
don't need the whole redundancy thing as our uptime is pretty good by industry 
standards).


With the grid and economy hosting you lost the whole website tonight 
functionality.  But if you know html, or are having someone else design it for 
you -- that's not too big of a deal.


If you can respond with more specifics as to what you're looking for... I'm 
sure the list could help you out.
-Steven Bailey.



On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:


Well, I'm going to to register my first domain and get hosting with godaddy 
(unless you know of something better). Anyways, I don't know which hosting plan 
to go with, web hosting economy or 5-page website builder. I'm thinking 
webhosting economy but the description godaddy gives isn't very descriptive. So 
I suppose I should ask you guys who know more about these things then me what 
the pros and cons are of these different services.




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Re: website hosting

2012-01-23 Thread keith smith 

GoDaddy is the master of marketing.  I host my main site with GoDaddy.  I am 
very satisfied.  The difference with GoDaddy and Hostgator from my point of 
view comes down to email disk space quotas.  I had to add on a package that 
gives me more email space.  I store 1/2 a Gig in emails on the GoDaddy 
servers.  And I use their web mail. When I started hosting with GoDaddy 5 years 
ago, their email accounts were limited to 10MB.  Now they are 100MB.  They want 
you to buy the cheap hosting and  add on other products until you are paying 
much more than the base price.  

The other area they used to get you to pay more was in the area of stats.  I 
did not pay extra.  I rely on Google Analytic.  Hosting log stats can tell you 
a lot.  I've chosen not to pay extra.  

When the day is done I am very happy that I get so much for so little.   

I like GoDadd's web mail the best of any hosting company's web mail.

I also have a reseller account at HostGator.  HostGator is cheap, simple and 
straightforward.  As far as I know you can set your mail box  quotas to any 
size you need.  And I believe the stats provided by HostGator are better than 
the free stats that GoDaddy provides, however they may not be as good as the 
add on stats that Godaddy provides.

Realistically, these hosting plans are for small hobbyist websites or for those 
stating out.  The people on this list can get away with these cheep hosting 
plans because we know what to do in case of trouble.  Most do not have our 
skills.

I'd recommend going with either and then when you are more successful with your 
project move to a full blown server.     



Keith Smith

--- On Sun, 1/22/12, Michael Havens  wrote:

From: Michael Havens 
Subject: Re: website hosting
To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
Date: Sunday, January 22, 2012, 9:19 PM

hostgator? why do you prefer them? 
what about registering a domain name?
if I do hosting with godaddy the domain registration is only 1.99. but they 
fail to sat what hosting costs after the year is up.


On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 8:22 PM, JD Austin  wrote:

I second Hostgator

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 20:18, keith smith  wrote:




Go to HostGator.  Better deal.  GoDaddy is solid, however I like HostGator 
better.  I host both places.  






Keith Smith

--- On Sun, 1/22/12, Bryan O'Neal  wrote:




From: Bryan O'Neal 
Subject: Re: website hosting
To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 



Date: Sunday, January 22, 2012, 8:06 PM

I by domains mostly for the portable personal email address. As far as
hosting I would go with the $6/mo plan and do the on click wordpress
install.




On 1/22/12, R P Herrold  wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2012, Michael Havens wrote:
>
>> Well, I'm going to to register my first domain and get



>> hosting with godaddy (unless you know of
 something better).
>> Anyways, I don't know which hosting plan to go with, web
>> hosting economy or 5-page website builder.
>
> It rather depends on WHY you feel the need for a domain, and



> one assumes (b/c of the mention of hosting, and the subject
> line) website
>
> blog sites are free with a google account at blogspot.com.
> email handling in a custom domain is free for up to ten users



> with google apps (down a rather had to find link).  mimimal
> websites are free thru google sites, as well.  domain
> registrations are $10 a year at google apps [they hand off the
> registration to emon or go-daddy, which is a hard price to



> get under for a low volume domain registrant
>
> But all this is self support and has no learning opportunity;
> if you want to have a live person at the other end of the
> phone to ask questions of,
 you may want more
>
> Not enough info to really frame a good answer
>
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Re: website hosting

2012-01-23 Thread kitepi...@kitepilot.com 

Why Drupal and not Wordpress?
Or Joomla?
I'm trying to make a decision myself...
Thanks!  :)
ET 




keith smith writes: 



You might want to look into a CMS.  I'd recommend Drupal because it is a great framework and once you learn more programming you will be a ble to do anything you want with it.   

There is a steep learning curve, however I think it is worth it.    

 

Keith Smith 

--- On Sun, 1/22/12, Michael Havens  wrote: 


From: Michael Havens 
Subject: Re: website hosting
To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
Date: Sunday, January 22, 2012, 8:55 PM 

My babies live in a foreign land and I want to start a website where fathers in a similar situation can share with each other. I suppose it would be more of a bulletin board. 

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Steven Ziskin-Bailey  wrote: 

Full Disclosure: I work for GoDaddy.com, my opinions however are my own and I am not speaking for GoDaddy.com or in an official respect for GoDaddy.com. 



Your question is a bit open ended, what do you plan on doing with said website?  Is it just a personal wordpress blog?  Something serious?  If it's something serious I would look at the grid hosting packages... They're a little bit more expensive, but you get a load balanced cluster serving your page compared to a single server.  (obviously if it's just a tinker about personal site... you don't need the whole redundancy thing as our uptime is pretty good by industry standards). 



With the grid and economy hosting you lost the whole website tonight functionality.  But if you know html, or are having someone else design it for you -- that's not too big of a deal. 



If you can respond with more specifics as to what you're looking for... I'm 
sure the list could help you out.
-Steven Bailey. 

 

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Michael Havens  wrote: 



Well, I'm going to to register my first domain and get hosting with godaddy (unless you know of something better). Anyways, I don't know which hosting plan to go with, web hosting economy or 5-page website builder. I'm thinking webhosting economy but the description godaddy gives isn't very descriptive. So I suppose I should ask you guys who know more about these things then me what the pros and cons are of these different services. 

 



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Re: website hosting

2012-01-23 Thread keith smith 

I know little about Joomla.  WordPress is good and widely used.  It however is 
not as expandable in my opinion.

Making Drupal templates is much more initiative than how WordPress does it.   
You can control how the output looked with Drupal, right down to the smallest 
subsection of your content.

A couple things that might help, but not a complete list of advantages of 
Druapl.  

Themeing system, you can make a template for any content and any page.

Take a look at the Drupal CCK. 

Take a look at Views.

Look into blocks - a way of managing blocks of content.  

Drupal comes with a learning curve.  If you have some PHP and MySql skills you 
probably could build anything you want with Drupal.  Think framework as in 
PHPCake or Code Ignitor.  

If you are a consultant and become fluent in Drupal you might be able to charge 
upwards of $150 an hour and have more work than you can handle. (there is a 
marketing element that is necessary)

Ok,  A disclaimer - This is my paradigm.  You will have to do your own do 
diligence to determine if Drupal is the tool for you.

I'm hoping this thread might open a productive discussion on which CMS to use 
and why to use it.   



Keith Smith

--- On Mon, 1/23/12, kitepi...@kitepilot.com  wrote:

From: kitepi...@kitepilot.com 
Subject: Re: website hosting
To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
Date: Monday, January 23, 2012, 6:32 AM

Why Drupal and not Wordpress?
Or Joomla?
I'm trying to make a decision myself...
Thanks!  :)
ET 


keith smith writes: 
> 
> You might want to look into a CMS.  I'd recommend Drupal because it is a 
> great framework and once you learn more programming you will be a ble to do 
> anything you want with it.   
> There is a steep learning curve, however I think it is worth it.    
>  
> Keith Smith 
> --- On Sun, 1/22/12, Michael Havens  wrote: 
> From: Michael Havens 
> Subject: Re: website hosting
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
> Date: Sunday, January 22, 2012, 8:55 PM 
> My babies live in a foreign land and I want to start a website where fathers 
> in a similar situation can share with each other. I suppose it would be more 
> of a bulletin board. 
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Steven Ziskin-Bailey  
> wrote: 
> Full Disclosure: I work for GoDaddy.com, my opinions however are my own and I 
> am not speaking for GoDaddy.com or in an official respect for GoDaddy.com. 
> 
> Your question is a bit open ended, what do you plan on doing with said 
> website?  Is it just a personal wordpress blog?  Something serious?  If it's 
> something serious I would look at the grid hosting packages... They're a 
> little bit more expensive, but you get a load balanced cluster serving your 
> page compared to a single server.  (obviously if it's just a tinker about 
> personal site... you don't need the whole redundancy thing as our uptime is 
> pretty good by industry standards). 
> 
> With the grid and economy hosting you lost the whole website tonight 
> functionality.  But if you know html, or are having someone else design it 
> for you -- that's not too big of a deal. 
> 
> If you can respond with more specifics as to what you're looking for... I'm 
> sure the list could help you out.
> -Steven Bailey. 
>  
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Michael Havens  wrote: 
> 
> Well, I'm going to to register my first domain and get hosting with godaddy 
> (unless you know of something better). Anyways, I don't know which hosting 
> plan to go with, web hosting economy or 5-page website builder. I'm thinking 
> webhosting economy but the description godaddy gives isn't very descriptive. 
> So I suppose I should ask you guys who know more about these things then me 
> what the pros and cons are of these different services. 
>  
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Re: website hosting

2012-01-23 Thread Michael Havens 
I was reading about Drupal on wikipedia. This is a small portion of what it
has to say:

 When compared to three other well-known open source CMS platforms
covered by the
 MITRE CVE database, Drupal ranked second - after
Plone<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plone_%28software%29>but before
WordPress <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WordPress> and
Joomla<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joomla>
.[76] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drupal#cite_note-75>

So let's talk about Plone. Why was it ranked ahead of drupal? What is it
about?



On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 6:53 AM, keith smith  wrote:

>
> I know little about Joomla.  WordPress is good and widely used.  It
> however is not as expandable in my opinion.
>
> Making Drupal templates is much more initiative than how WordPress does
> it.   You can control how the output looked withy warupal, right down to
> the smallest subsection of your content.
>
> A couple things that might help, but not a complete list of advantages of
> Druapl.
>
> Themeing system, you can make a template for any content and any page.
>
> Take a look at the Drupal CCK.
>
> Take a look at Views.
>
> Look into blocks - a way of managing blocks of content.
>
> Drupal comes with a learning curve.  If you have some PHP and MySql skills
> you probably could build anything you want with Drupal.  Think framework as
> in PHPCake or Code Ignitor.
>
> If you are a consultant and become fluent in Drupal you might be able to
> charge upwards of $150 an hour and have more work than you can handle.
> (there is a marketing element that is necessary)
>
> Ok,  A disclaimer - This is my paradigm.  You will have to do your own do
> diligence to determine if Drupal is the tool for you.
>
> I'm hoping this thread might open a productive discussion on which CMS to
> use and why to use it.
>
> ------------
> Keith Smith
>
> --- On *Mon, 1/23/12, kitepi...@kitepilot.com *wrote:
>
>
> From: kitepi...@kitepilot.com 
>
> Subject: Re: website hosting
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
> Date: Monday, January 23, 2012, 6:32 AM
>
>
> Why Drupal and not Wordpress?
> Or Joomla?
> I'm trying to make a decision myself...
> Thanks!  :)
> ET
>
>
> keith smith writes:
> >
> > You might want to look into a CMS.  I'd recommend Drupal because it is a
> great framework and once you learn more programming you will be a ble to do
> anything you want with it.
> > There is a steep learning curve, however I think it is worth it.
> > 
> > Keith Smith
> > --- On Sun, 1/22/12, Michael Havens 
> > http://mc/compose?to=bmi...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> > From: Michael Havens 
> > http://mc/compose?to=bmi...@gmail.com>
> >
> > Subject: Re: website hosting
> > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" 
> > http://mc/compose?to=plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> >
> > Date: Sunday, January 22, 2012, 8:55 PM
> > My babies live in a foreign land and I want to start a website where
> fathers in a similar situation can share with each other. I suppose it
> would be more of a bulletin board.
> > On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Steven Ziskin-Bailey 
> > http://mc/compose?to=st3v...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> > Full Disclosure: I work for GoDaddy.com, my opinions however are my own
> and I am not speaking for GoDaddy.com or in an official respect for
> GoDaddy.com.
> >
> > Your question is a bit open ended, what do you plan on doing with said
> website?  Is it just a personal wordpress blog?  Something serious?  If
> it's something serious I would look at the grid hosting packages... They're
> a little bit more expensive, but you get a load balanced cluster serving
> your page compared to a single server.  (obviously if it's just a tinker
> about personal site... you don't need the whole redundancy thing as our
> uptime is pretty good by industry standards).
> >
> > With the grid and economy hosting you lost the whole website tonight
> functionality.  But if you know html, or are having someone else design it
> for you -- that's not too big of a deal.
> >
> > If you can respond with more specifics as to what you're looking for...
> I'm sure the list could help you out.
> > -Steven Bailey.
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Michael Havens 
> > http://mc/compose?to=bmi...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Well, I'm going to to register my first domain and get hosting with
> godaddy (unless you know of something better). Anyways, I don't know which
> hosting plan to go with, web hosting economy

Re: website hosting

2012-01-30 Thread Andrew Harris 
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Michael Havens  wrote:

> I was reading about Drupal on wikipedia. This is a small portion of what
> it has to say:
>
>  When compared to three other well-known open source CMS platforms
> covered by the
>  MITRE CVE database, Drupal ranked second - after 
> Plonebut before
> WordPress  and 
> Joomla
> .[76] 
>
> So let's talk about Plone. Why was it ranked ahead of drupal? What is it
> about?
>

Configurability, it seems like, and also its low low number of
vulnerabilities.  You won't be able to run Plone on a shared hosting plan
with HostGator, though, since it requires Zope.
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