Re: which ATI card?

2008-06-26 Thread Kurt Granroth

Joseph Sinclair wrote:

Last I checked Compiz doesn't play well with dual monitors, so you may have to 
give up that particular requirement.


I am using a dual monitor setup (two 21 LCDs) with compiz right this 
moment.  It's worked great for awhile now.


A caveat, though: I am running with an NVidia card, not an ATI one.  I 
say this because it *may* be the difference.  That is, I may not be 
using Xinerama and may instead be using NVidia's TwinView.  The only 
reason I think that is because I have a three monitor setup at work and 
with two of the exact same NVidia cards that I have at home, compiz 
doesn't work due to the Xinerama issues.




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Re: which ATI card?

2008-06-25 Thread Joseph Sinclair
Last I checked Compiz doesn't play well with dual monitors, so you may have to 
give up that particular requirement.
After that, any of the newer ATI Radeon HD cards should work well, although the 
very newest doesn't have specs released just yet.  They'll all have HD video 
out with Free driver support when the Free driver developers get around to 
implementing the hardware decode circuitry support, the latest (3800 series) 
cards have built-in hardware decode called UVD.  Video out is not high 
priority right now, though, so Free driver support may take a little while.  
Pick a card (prefer direct from AMD, IMO) with at least 1 port for video out 
(the AMD cards all have multiple) to make sure you can use that support when it 
becomes available.

Your board is a nForce 500 SLI MB, so it has 2 PCI-Express x16 slots and 2 x1 
slots (between the x16 slots).  You should buy a PCI-x card, if you buy 2 SLI 
cards you can gang them together to act like one big dual-GPU card (some of the 
new cards, like the 3870, do this internally on one card), although I'm not 
sure if the drivers (binary or Free) support that yet.

==Joseph++

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der.hans wrote:
 moin moin,
 
 As I posted last week, ATI's new cards are releasing with X drivers.
 
 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=amd_evolutionnum=1
 
 This won't satisfy some of us as they're binary blobs, but the Free 
 Software drivers can be used as well.
 
 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=amd_rv770_ossnum=1
 
 Now they're available.
 
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENEDEPA=0Description=HD+4850cm_sp=HomepageSL-_-AMD4000-_-http%3a%2f%2fpromotions.newegg.com%2famd%2f4000%2f270x120.gif
 
 Hmm, why does it think that page is a gif?
 
 Anyway, I'm buying a couple of SDHC cards, so figured I'd pick up a new
 video card as well. I no longer know squat about video cards, so I don't
 know how to rate the available cards.
 
 I don't game, but I do want to have good compiz and video playback. I have
 a dual-head setup with 22 wide monitors as well.
 
 I would like something that will run cool at low power. That probably
 means I should completely ignore this line :).
 
 Video out would be cool. HD out with Free Software support would be
 awesome.
 
 product: M2N4-SLI
 vendor: ASUSTeK Computer INC.
 
 It's got a bunch of pci slots, but I don't see anything about agp or
 pciexpress in lshw.
 
 ciao,
 
 der.hans



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Re: which ATI card?

2008-06-25 Thread Charles Jones
Joseph Sinclair wrote:
 Last I checked Compiz doesn't play well with dual monitors, so you may have 
 to give up that particular requirement.
Friday I had compiz working with dual monitors. I didn't try the cube 
effect, but I had window animations and whatnot working.

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Re: which ATI card?

2008-06-25 Thread der.hans

Am 24. Jun, 2008 schwätzte Charles Jones so:


Joseph Sinclair wrote:

Last I checked Compiz doesn't play well with dual monitors, so you may have to 
give up that particular requirement.

Friday I had compiz working with dual monitors. I didn't try the cube
effect, but I had window animations and whatnot working.


And you didn't show me?

Were they on the correct side and rotating the correct direction?  :)

It'd be cool to have a split cube that rotates from the inside seam on the
dual-head layout.

ciao,

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Re: which ATI card?

2008-06-25 Thread Charles Jones
der.hans wrote:
 Am 24. Jun, 2008 schwätzte Charles Jones so:

 Joseph Sinclair wrote:
 Last I checked Compiz doesn't play well with dual monitors, so you 
 may have to give up that particular requirement.
 Friday I had compiz working with dual monitors. I didn't try the cube
 effect, but I had window animations and whatnot working.

 And you didn't show me?

 Were they on the correct side and rotating the correct direction?  :)

 It'd be cool to have a split cube that rotates from the inside seam on 
 the
 dual-head layout. 
Heh well you remember how I had rolled back my x.org to the one that 
comes with FC8 (because there wasn't at first an Nvidia driver that 
worked with the version of x.org that shipped with FC9), and that was 
the only way I could get Twinview working? Well Friday for fun I did a 
yum upgrade and let it upgrade everything including x.org, and the 
newest livna Nvidia driver seemed to be working...at least my dual 
vertical screens came up. I turned on the compiz stuff and it was 
working as far as the window dressings, and minimize/maximize 
animations. However, the wobbly windows was amazingly slow, so maybe 
my hardware/3d acceleration was not working?  I didn't try the cube 
thing either. I ended up turning it off, but I should be able to turn it 
back on if you want a look-see. :)

-Charles
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Re: which ATI card?

2008-06-25 Thread Ryan Meldrum
I running openSuSE 10.3 and have an ATI Sapphire card.  I do minor 
gaming and wanted something cheap, but could handle Quake III arena.

I downloaded the drivers from ATI and they work perfectly.  It has the 
ability to do dual head, along with SVIDEO out.  Draw back, no dvi 
cables included

$70 ATI Sapphire 3650 512MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102726


der.hans wrote:
 moin moin,
 
 As I posted last week, ATI's new cards are releasing with X drivers.
 
 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=amd_evolutionnum=1
 
 This won't satisfy some of us as they're binary blobs, but the Free 
 Software drivers can be used as well.
 
 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=amd_rv770_ossnum=1
 
 Now they're available.
 
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENEDEPA=0Description=HD+4850cm_sp=HomepageSL-_-AMD4000-_-http%3a%2f%2fpromotions.newegg.com%2famd%2f4000%2f270x120.gif
 
 Hmm, why does it think that page is a gif?
 
 Anyway, I'm buying a couple of SDHC cards, so figured I'd pick up a new
 video card as well. I no longer know squat about video cards, so I don't
 know how to rate the available cards.
 
 I don't game, but I do want to have good compiz and video playback. I have
 a dual-head setup with 22 wide monitors as well.
 
 I would like something that will run cool at low power. That probably
 means I should completely ignore this line :).
 
 Video out would be cool. HD out with Free Software support would be
 awesome.
 
 product: M2N4-SLI
 vendor: ASUSTeK Computer INC.
 
 It's got a bunch of pci slots, but I don't see anything about agp or
 pciexpress in lshw.
 
 ciao,
 
 der.hans

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