Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x

2012-06-16 Thread erland

Morbeas wrote: 
> I don't know what to say anymore.  :(  It's now back to picking decent
> songs, just like the other day when I was typing you guys a thank you
> note:
> 
I still think what you are seeing is how it is designed to work. The
reason it happen more often in your library might just be because your
library contains different albums than bakker_be's. If you only want to
listen to the same type of music you shouldn't use SugarCube, the
purpose of SugarCube is that it will not stay within the genre, it will
walk away into other genres, sometimes faster and sometimes slower and
there is no way to know in advance exactly where it will end up because
there is a random element involved. 

As bakker_be said previously there could possibly be something wrong
with the analysis MusicIP has done previously on some of your tracks,
causing it to switch genre faster in your library, but it could also
just be the composition of your library that are causing it. Re-ripping
the albums and re-analyze them with MusicIP might be a solution but I'm
personally not sure it's going to change anything.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: squeezetray

2012-06-16 Thread owenhamburg

Veggen wrote: 
> Thanks, had to install git and wx, but it seems to have installed OK.

That's wonderful news, thanks for trying. Its still very early stages.
Its Changing very rapidly at the moment.

I stupidly named the "squeezetray" without googling first. I now know
this application needs a new name, and best done now while the
documentation is low.

What name should this little GUI have?

if no one comes up with a better name I will call it "SqueezeWxTray".

Veggen wrote: 
> In settings, the Player field is blank, 

This is a bad sign, do you have any squeezeboxes connected to the
server?

If you do, it either suggests you downloaded it a few days ago, as I
think it 
was broken at one point, and an upgrade is needed.

Veggen wrote: 
> at the bottom it says Server Connected.

Ok, this is a very good sign, It means you have a Squeeze server
installed, and connected the client to it correctly.

Veggen wrote: 
> The play/pause/next etc. controls do not seem to do anything. 

They wont as no player is selected. :)

I have improved this in the new version, and "The play/pause/next etc. "
stuff now only appears when the players are found.

If you have more than one "squeezebox" that plays music, you also get a
player switcher submenu.

Veggen wrote: 
> In the terminal window I see: 
> 
> self.mapping {}
> 
> Not recognizing my player it seems?

Perfect guess :)

I have made a lot of code changes over the past few days. Could you
please go into 
your git checked out directory, and type 

$git pull
Writing objects: 100% (10/10), 970 bytes, done.
Total 10 (delta 8), reused 0 (delta 0)
To yourgitserver.example.org/squeezetray.git
4938eec..61b047b  master <- master


To get the latest version. I know an older version had some debug
statements such as "self.mapping {}". I have removed a 
lot of these, and the plan is to put in the standard logging, and and
installer / README.

I removed this mapping system, from the "server Id" to "Player Name",
during a code clean up.

I changed the code to be more and more Model, View, Controller Pattern.

The model is updated from the server using json http, using a view as a
thread pool.
Callbacks on changes to the model to the Controller can then trigger
further things.

In this case another View is triggered to display the model as the
StatusBar and Tooltip, 
which shows details about the current track playing, and server status.


What name should this little GUI have?
Any suggestions ;)

Owen

I guess we should open a new thread when some one comes up with a good
new name for the application currently known as "squeezetray" and uses
wxpython as its GUI.



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Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x

2012-06-16 Thread Morbeas

I don't know what to say anymore.  :(  It's now back to picking decent
songs, just like the other day when I was typing you guys a thank you
note:


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Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x

2012-06-16 Thread Morbeas

That's great!  I've seen Metallica many times over the years and I must
say their shows are still among the best.  As a matter of fact, this is
where I'll be next weekend: http://www.orionmusicandmore.com/

Ride the Lightning in its entirety Saturday night!  :)

PS.  If you wouldn't mind, I'd love to takeyou up on your offer to lend
me your files for testing purposes.  I'll shoot you a message now with
my e-mail.

Thanks in advance.



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Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x

2012-06-16 Thread bakker_be

Morbeas wrote: 
> 
> And about Metallica, they're the band that got me into metal in the
> first place back when I was 13 so I can't help but have a soft spot for
> them.  Though I do (unfortunately) agree that Metallica after Cliff
> Burton was never the same again.  :(
Showing your age there, seem you're just a little younger than I am, I
was 18 when Cliff died. I also still have a soft spot for Metallica,
just saw them live at Werchter a couple of weeks ago for the first time
since Cliff's demise and I must say that Rob really was good. I
thoroughly enjoyed it. He's no Cliff, but then, that's what Thin Lizzy
fans also say about Phil Lynotts "replacements".
Next weekend I'll be at Graspop Metal Meeting (www.graspop.be) for some
more metal, old & new :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SuperDateTime - Current Date/Temperature and/or Baseball Screensaver

2012-06-16 Thread madpatrick

Hi smintman,

Thanks for your reply and support. I've change as suggested and the
first impression is that it looks good.
I'll keep it testing for a few days to see how it goes.



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Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x

2012-06-16 Thread bakker_be

erland wrote: 
> If I remember correctly, SugarCube adds one track at the time and use
> the previous one to seed the next one.
> 
> So, if you get a SugarCube playlist as this (which you posted
> recently):
> - Ride the Lightning by Metallica
> - Caught In a Mosh by Anthrax
> - Stop by Death Angel
> - Row Of Crows by Chris Poland
> - The Curse by King Diamond
> - Dancing On The Edge by Badlands
> - It Ain't Like That by Alice In Chains
> - Deserted by Blind Melon
> - The House That Jacks Buit by Aretha Franklin
> 
> SugarCube only uses Metallica for seeding "Caught In a Mosh" by Antrax.
> And "Caught In a Mosh" is used for seeding "Stop", and "Stop" is using
> for seeding "Row of Crows" and so on ending with "The House That Jacks
> Buit" being seeded based on "Deserted" by Blind Melon.
> 
> However, this is how it worked a long time ago when I used SugarCube
> myself last, this might have changed in the recent version so SugarCube
> uses the same seed track for multiple tracks and in that case the
> current behavior looks a bit strange.
As far as I know SugarCube still works in this way. In the early days
the algorithm wasn't as solid as it is now, so I'd use the built-in
MusicIP mixing function to generate a basic seed mix, after which
SugarCube took over, mixing in a new track each time upon playing a
track of the seed mix. Now I just use the random music function, set to
give me 1 track, and I let Sugarcube handle it from there. It's quite
often that I don't need to "shake out" a new seed track for days on
end.
I've never seen behaviour like what Morbeas is experiencing. The only
"glitch" I have is the existence of the nearly identical tracks on
several different albums (initial studio album, various artists
compilation, artist compilation, live album) that sometimes get played
with for instance just one song between them, sometimes even jumping
back & forth, but that doesn't disturb me enough to bother CParker with
it.
Given that Morbeas seems to have this issue solely with Metallica-based
mixes, I'd suggest that he re-rip his albums and analyse them all over
again. I'd even be willing to  put my files on dropbox or some other
service for him to try out in his system.



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Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x

2012-06-16 Thread Morbeas

I understand that but going from Metallica to Aretha Franklin in just a
few tracks?!  Why is only my installation doing this and not bakker_be's
for example?



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Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x

2012-06-16 Thread erland

Morbeas wrote: 
> The problem isn't Aretha Franklin being selected in a mix where the seed
> song is Blind Melon though.  It's Aretha Franklin appearing in a mix
> where Metallica is the seed.  I think that's quite clear by now.
> 

If I remember correctly, SugarCube adds one track at the time and use
the previous one to seed the next one.

So, if you get a SugarCube playlist as this (which you posted recently):
- Ride the Lightning by Metallica
- Caught In a Mosh by Anthrax
- Stop by Death Angel
- Row Of Crows by Chris Poland
- The Curse by King Diamond
- Dancing On The Edge by Badlands
- It Ain't Like That by Alice In Chains
- Deserted by Blind Melon
- The House That Jacks Buit by Aretha Franklin

SugarCube only uses Metallica for seeding "Caught In a Mosh" by Antrax.
And "Caught In a Mosh" is used for seeding "Stop", and "Stop" is using
for seeding "Row of Crows" and so on ending with "The House That Jacks
Buit" being seeded based on "Deserted" by Blind Melon.

However, this is how it worked a long time ago when I used SugarCube
myself last, this might have changed in the recent version so SugarCube
uses the same seed track for multiple tracks and in that case the
current behavior looks a bit strange.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Best practice using LMS with Windows Home Server 2011

2012-06-16 Thread diamar

You might also want to change the default locations for log files and
cache files. Most WHS machines have small system drives, and that's the
default location for these files.

See
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?95371-Where-is-the-index-stored-for-your-Music-Library
for information on this.



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Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x

2012-06-16 Thread Morbeas

The problem isn't Aretha Franklin being selected in a mix where the seed
song is Blind Melon though.  It's Aretha Franklin appearing in a mix
where Metallica is the seed.  I think that's quite clear by now.

And I've contacted cparker, let's see how that goes...



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Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x

2012-06-16 Thread erland

Morbeas wrote: 
> Ok, can we now definitively say this is all Sugarcube's fault?
> 
Don't know because I don't know exactly how the SugarCube selection
algorithm is supposed to work, but in the last sample when you created a
mix from a Blind Melon track there is an Aretha Franklin track in the
returned mix. So if the SugarCube logic just selects a random track
among those returned in the mix this could maybe explain what you are
seeing ?

My suggestion if you want to investigate this further is still to
contact cparker on his private forum so he (who knows how it's supposed
to work) can help you troubleshoot it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Best practice using LMS with Windows Home Server 2011

2012-06-16 Thread Jeff Flowerday

Just go into the lms control panel and tell it to start on system start.
It will create the service for you. 

You can leave the account empty our put credentials in, its up to you. 

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)

2012-06-16 Thread Triode

JElzenaar wrote: 
> Hi Triode,
> 
> I tested it under Windows and it works fine. Maybe my NAS is not
> powerful enough. I have a 411j but the strange thing is it always worked
> fine before upgrading :(

The arm version uses a different version of libspotify as the older one
had bugs.  Can you reproduce the error messages on it (maybe the library
or the speed of the NAS)



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[SlimDevices: Plugins] Best practice using LMS with Windows Home Server 2011

2012-06-16 Thread treefern

I have recently installed LMS on WHS 2011 HP Proliant Microserver having
moved it across from my PC.  I would be interested to know what other
users, using this setup,  do.  I have LMS running under administrator
and it starts as a schedule task rather than a service. Therefore the
admin user is always open on the server. 

What can be regarded as best practice.

I also have remote web access enabled so I would like to make the server
as secure as possible.

I look forward to any replies.

David

Devon UK



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Newbie needing help with musicip please

2012-06-16 Thread Mnyb

A data piont I got my i7 quad core with 16gb memory now MIP scanning is
reasonably fast 



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)

2012-06-16 Thread JElzenaar

Triode wrote: 
> Do try the server and plugin on a intel based machine to see if there is
> any difference.  You are using an arm based NAS which is relatively low
> power and may be contributing to the problem.  I don't think you should
> right off squeezeboxe's just because of performance issues which may be
> due to a specific nas (or in this case the spotify servers not working
> with the arm version of their library if this is the case).  Do you have
> more debugs of it going wrong and are they the same?

Hi Triode,

I tested it under Windows and it works fine. Maybe my NAS is not
powerful enough. I have a 411j but the strange thing is it always worked
fine before upgrading :(



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)

2012-06-16 Thread JElzenaar

Triode wrote: 
> Do try the server and plugin on a intel based machine to see if there is
> any difference.  You are using an arm based NAS which is relatively low
> power and may be contributing to the problem.  I don't think you should
> right off squeezeboxe's just because of performance issues which may be
> due to a specific nas (or in this case the spotify servers not working
> with the arm version of their library if this is the case).  Do you have
> more debugs of it going wrong and are they the same?

Hi Triode,

This NAS is at my parents place and i'm moving to my own house next week
and when i buy my own NAS i already know i'm going to buy an Intel based
one. Probable a 412+ or a 1512+ or something which are both Intel based.
I'm using the Airport express for now at my own home when i get that one
next week as i don't have the money for the server yet. But after i
tried that i'll exchange the Airport for the LMS and let you know. If it
works fine, i'll just leave the Airport at my parents place and i'll
take the LMS. For them it's better to use Apple stuff anyway as they're
kind of bad with Technological things haha ;)

Thanks for you help :)

And maybe i can try it at my computer here too by the way as that's of
course also Intel.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)

2012-06-16 Thread Triode

grabhorn wrote: 
> Hi, Triode. Thank you for creating this wonderful Spotify plug-in and
> for supporting it so consistently. We are all extremely fortunate that
> you do so.
> 
> We use the plug-in (with premium Spotify account) both at home and at
> work. At home we use Ubuntu, and everything works as intended. At work,
> though, spotifyd.exe seems to crash every night (Windows XP), and then
> it's very difficult to get the LSM running again in the morning -
> usually requires several attempts before it finally works with Spotify.
> 
> We've tried removing and reinstalling the plug-in, we've upgraded to the
> latest version of the server, we've shut down the computer and
> restarted. None of these things has succeeded in solving the problem
> 
> I apologize for being naive here, but where do I begin to provide you
> with more information about the circumstances of my problem?
> 
> And again, thank you very much for your product and your support.

What does the helper app log say at the time when you say it crashes
(there is a link from the settings page for the plugin).  Do you use the
same account and are you trying to access the account at the same time
from both machines?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)

2012-06-16 Thread Triode

JElzenaar wrote: 
> Yeah i can. But i never had those problems before when i was still
> running LMS 7.7.1 and i think the 2.2.2 or 2.2.3 plugin version. I
> upgraded to 7.7.2 and the 2.2.5 plugin and then the problems started. I
> reinstalled them from scratch too and it didn't fix it. I really wonder
> what exactly the problem is here. Could be Spotify too but it looks like
> not many other people have the same issues as me as i checked lots of
> forums. 
> 
> I'm thinking about just buying an Apple Airport Express now because LMS
> somehow is always giving troubles to people otherwise there were not so
> many forum posts about it. It's good stuff, but i'm beginning to lose my
> confidence in that product a bit. The weird thing is that my local music
> plays fine on it so it's just Spotify. And maybe it's on Spotify's end
> and it's not about LMS but still.. It's hard to say at this moment :(
> Hope you can help me out.

Do try the server and plugin on a intel based machine to see if there is
any difference.  You are using an arm based NAS which is relatively low
power and may be contributing to the problem.  I don't think you should
right off squeezeboxe's just because of performance issues which may be
due to a specific nas (or in this case the spotify servers not working
with the arm version of their library if this is the case).  Do you have
more debugs of it going wrong and are they the same?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)

2012-06-16 Thread JElzenaar

Triode wrote: 
> This looks to be a problem with the plugin talking to the spotify
> servers.  Is this always the case?  I see occasional errors which I put
> down to problems at the spotify end, but not permanent problems.  Can
> you reproduce the same 404 errors regularly?

Yeah i can. But i never had those problems before when i was still
running LMS 7.7.1 and i think the 2.2.2 or 2.2.3 plugin version. I
upgraded to 7.7.2 and the 2.2.5 plugin and then the problems started. I
reinstalled them from scratch too and it didn't fix it. I really wonder
what exactly the problem is here. Could be Spotify too but it looks like
not many other people have the same issues as me as i checked lots of
forums. 

I'm thinking about just buying an Apple Airport Express now because LMS
somehow is always giving troubles to people otherwise there were not so
many forum posts about it. It's good stuff, but i'm beginning to lose my
confidence in that product a bit. The weird thing is that my local music
plays fine on it so it's just Spotify. And maybe it's on Spotify's end
and it's not about LMS but still.. It's hard to say at this moment :(
Hope you can help me out.



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Re: Announce: Spicefly SugarCube Version 2.03 � (Automatic MusicIP DJ) for 7.x

2012-06-16 Thread Morbeas

Ok, can we now definitively say this is all Sugarcube's fault?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Content of Posts not visible in Triode's Slim Devices Forum info browser

2012-06-16 Thread GreyBeard

Thanks Triode, that fixed it. I just just checked the entry in the
updates and it worked perfectly.



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