Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: ShairTunes Plugin

2015-02-20 Thread odw199

I have this working on a mac mini running yosemite, but only if I run
slimserver.pl directly from the command line, not when using the start
button in the Preference Pane (Pain?)

When running from the pref pain I get the infamous:



Code:

[15-02-20 17:51:03.5684] Slim::Networking::IO::Select::__ANON__ (147) 
Error: Select task failed calling 
Plugins::ShairTunes::Plugin::handleSocketRead: Expected port number from 
decoder; got  at 
/Users/tv/Library/Caches/Squeezebox/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/ShairTunes/Plugin.pm
 line 344.
  ; fh=IO::Socket::INET6=GLOB(0x7f971a0c8d48)




Does anyone know what differences there are in how LMS starts between
the command line and Pref Pane? I've checked they both use the same
version of perl so presumably there is a difference in library used
based on path ordering or some such but I haven't yet been able to
figure it out.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Jazz FM changed again!

2015-02-20 Thread whitman

Ah well, looks like I'll have to manually paste in the URLs every week.
Sigh ...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread Klammer

PasTim wrote: 
 If LMS keeps rescanning, what does the Information on the last Settings
 page show?  Has it found, or is it finding, any tracks?  If not, could
 there now be a permissions issue with your music database?


Discovering files/directories: /volume1/music   (77630 of 77630)  
Complete  00:03:49

Scanning new music files: /volume1/music   (70627 of 70627)   Complete 
04:00:53

Discovering files/directories: /volume1/music/Playlists   (1 of 1)  
Complete  00:00:00

The server has finished scanning your media library.
Total Time: 04:04:42 (Friday, February 20, 2015 / 11:53:23)

Phew! :cool:

Cheers
Paul



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread PasTim

Klammer wrote: 
 OK, will install the HLS debugger shortly.
 
 Where do I look for the database file to check permissions please?
 Everything is set to admin : users apart from the 1st the entry which
 is root:root.
 
  
Code:

  DiskStation cd /volume1/@appstore/SqueezeCenter/
   DiskStation dir
   drwxr-xr-x   19 adminusers 4096 Feb 19 17:54 .
   drwxrwxrwx7 root root  4096 Feb 20 08:36 ..
   drwxr-xr-x2 adminusers 4096 Nov 21 02:59 Bin
   drwxr-xr-x   60 adminusers 4096 Nov 21 02:58 CPAN
   drwxr-xr-x7 adminusers 4096 Feb 20 09:11 Cache 

  
 
 Thanks
 Paul
If LMS keeps rescanning, what does the Information on the last Settings
page show?  Has it found, or is it finding, any tracks?  If not, could
there now be a permissions issue with your music database?



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44.1-192kbps. LMS  Squeeze2upnp (Beta - derived from squeezelite) to
Musical Fidelity M1 CLiC and Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers.  Squeezelite
to PC sound.  Minimserver (server) and upplay (control point) to same
amps  to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers.  Meridian USB Explorer DAC from PCs
to speakers/headphones.  Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop controls
LMS/upplay via Firefox.   Have a Touch with EDO, and a spare, but don't
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread PasTim

Klammer wrote: 
 Hi Tim,
 
 It's been scanning again for over 2 and a half hours but now but nearly
 finished now.
 
 It scanned twice last night but seemed to forget it had done so and it
 started again when I had installed @bpa's HLS plugin and restarted LMS.
 I can see the database being written out in these files:
 
  
Code:

  -rw-r-1 adminusers   425984 Feb 20 00:11 libmediascan.db
   -rw-r--r--1 adminusers106098688 Feb 20 10:30 library.db
   -rw-r--r--1 adminusers  116 Feb 20 10:30 
library.db-mj15872103
   -rw-r--r--1 adminusers32768 Feb 20 10:30 library.db-shm
   -rw-r--r--1 adminusers  4090376 Feb 20 10:30 library.db-wal
   -rw-r--r--1 adminusers 31287296 Feb 20 10:30 persist.db
   -rw-r--r--1 adminusers32768 Feb 20 10:30 persist.db-shm
   -rw-r--r--1 adminusers   640360 Feb 20 10:30 persist.db-wal

  
 
 I presume the 1st file is the one from last night which finished after
 midnight.
 
 I've run a chown command and now everything belongs to users admin
 so it might be able to write the database OK this time...?
 
 Thanks
 Paul
I hope so.  I've rather lost track of how far you have got so I'll leave
it to you  bpa for now - he knows far, far, more than I.



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amps  to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers.  Meridian USB Explorer DAC from PCs
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread Klammer

PasTim wrote: 
 If LMS keeps rescanning, what does the Information on the last Settings
 page show?  Has it found, or is it finding, any tracks?  If not, could
 there now be a permissions issue with your music database?

Hi Tim,

It's been scanning again for over 2 and a half hours but now but nearly
finished now.

It scanned twice last night but seemed to forget it had done so and it
started again when I had installed @bpa's HLS plugin and restarted LMS.
I can see the database being written out in these files:


Code:

-rw-r-1 adminusers   425984 Feb 20 00:11 libmediascan.db
  -rw-r--r--1 adminusers106098688 Feb 20 10:30 library.db
  -rw-r--r--1 adminusers  116 Feb 20 10:30 library.db-mj15872103
  -rw-r--r--1 adminusers32768 Feb 20 10:30 library.db-shm
  -rw-r--r--1 adminusers  4090376 Feb 20 10:30 library.db-wal
  -rw-r--r--1 adminusers 31287296 Feb 20 10:30 persist.db
  -rw-r--r--1 adminusers32768 Feb 20 10:30 persist.db-shm
  -rw-r--r--1 adminusers   640360 Feb 20 10:30 persist.db-wal



I presume the 1st file is the one from last night which finished after
midnight.

I've run a chown command and now everything belongs to users admin so
it might be able to write the database OK this time...?

Thanks
Paul



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread castalla

On the BBC blog there are a few reports that various manufacturers are
working on/investigating a fix for HLS (including Cambridge Audio,
Sonos, etc.).

Has anyone seen a report from Logitech about this?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread bpa

Klammer wrote: 
 LMS is acting strangely, constantly wanting to start a complete media
 scan! Anyway, I played BBC Radio 4Extra from the BBC iPlayer app with
 the updated menu.opml and got the usual result... log attached.

Not a good way to start the day...

The log shows ffmpeg dying after about 3 secs...

I think the Debug version of the Plugin si needed to check whether it is
same problem or a new one.
Again remove the old plugin and then install the new one from this
repository

http://homepage.eircom.net/~altondsl/repos/repo-playhlsdebug.xml

Not sure why media scan is needed every time unless there is a
permissions issue and LMS cannot write its database or prefs - anything
in the server log.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread Klammer

bpa wrote: 
 Not a good way to start the day...
 
 The log shows ffmpeg dying after about 3 secs...
 
 I think the Debug version of the Plugin si needed to check whether it is
 same problem or a new one.
 Again remove the old plugin and then install the new one from this
 repository
 
 http://homepage.eircom.net/~altondsl/repos/repo-playhlsdebug.xml
 
 Not sure why media scan is needed every time unless there is a
 permissions issue and LMS cannot write its database or prefs - anything
 in the server log.

OK, will install the HLS debugger shortly.

Where do I look for the database file to check permissions please?
Everything is set to admin : users apart from the 1st the entry which
is root:root.


Code:

DiskStation cd /volume1/@appstore/SqueezeCenter/
  DiskStation dir
  drwxr-xr-x   19 adminusers 4096 Feb 19 17:54 .
  drwxrwxrwx7 root root  4096 Feb 20 08:36 ..
  drwxr-xr-x2 adminusers 4096 Nov 21 02:59 Bin
  drwxr-xr-x   60 adminusers 4096 Nov 21 02:58 CPAN
  drwxr-xr-x7 adminusers 4096 Feb 20 09:11 Cache 



Thanks
Paul



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Headless music player on Ubuntu server

2015-02-20 Thread ralphy

Roland0 wrote: 
 You could use the pre-compiled binaries available from the 'squeezelite
 page' (https://code.google.com/p/squeezelite/)

The Squeezebox client builds link in my signature has squeezelite
binaries for osx with all codecs compiled in.



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(https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donationsbusiness=LL5P6365KQEXNlc=CAitem_name=Squeezebox%20client%20buildscurrency_code=USDbn=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donate_SM%2egif%3aNonHosted)
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread Klammer

JohnB wrote: 
 Klammer, forgive me for butting in but if I were you and was
 encountering these massive rescans, I would copy a few music files to a
 temporary folder and point LMS at that as its music library folder,
 until the rescan problem is solved. It would make any forced rescans
 very quick.
 
 (Apologies if I am talking nonsense.)

Hi JohnB,

I think the problem was that the database files were owned by user
root and so didn't have permission to write to them.  I've changed
them back to admin and the scan has finished.

Thanks for the tip though, I will try that if it happens again

Cheers
Paul



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Headless music player on Ubuntu server

2015-02-20 Thread Christian Schoepplein
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 08:17:56PM +, Roland0 wrote:
ch...@schoeppi.net wrote: 
 
 I'd also to use squeezelite on a Mac Book, but compiling the software 
 with support for mp3, ogg and flac is a pain because the needed libs 
 have to be compiled manualy. Is anyone using squeezelite on a Mac and 
 can help and give some hints where to find the libs, etc.?
 

You could use the pre-compiled binaries available from the 'squeezelite
page' (https://code.google.com/p/squeezelite/)

When I was trying the precompiled packages the last time they where not 
compiled with support for mp3 and flac for licence reasons, because 
there is no way to compile them on Mac OS with support for this 
formats or whatever :-(. Thats why I'd like to try to compile 
squeezelite for myself, but it is hart to find all needed libs for 
Mac OS :-(.

Maybe another possebility would be to use the precompiled package and 
let the server recode a stream with a not supported format into a format 
which squeezelite is able to play, but at the moment I don't know if 
this is possible...

Ciao,

  Schöpp

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread JohnB

Klammer, forgive me for butting in but if I were you and was
encountering these massive rescans, I would copy a few music files to a
temporary folder and point LMS at that as its music library folder,
until the rescan problem is solved. It would make any forced rescans
very quick.

(Apologies if I am talking nonsense.)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread majones

castalla wrote: 
 On the BBC blog there are a few reports that various manufacturers are
 working on/investigating a fix for HLS (including Cambridge Audio,
 Sonos, etc.).
 Has anyone seen a report from Logitech about this?
I did see a comment from Michael that HLS is most likely out of
question, as our players don't support it
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?53229-Announce-BBCiPlayer-Plugin-(UK-only)p=806794viewfull=1#post806794).
It will be interesting to see how other manufacturers go about providing
a fix given the limitations of hardware. Maybe a 3rd-party transcoding
facility?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread Owen Smith

majones wrote: 
 I did see a comment from Michael that HLS is most likely out of
 question, as our players don't support it
 (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?53229-Announce-BBCiPlayer-Plugin-(UK-only)p=806794viewfull=1#post806794).
 It will be interesting to see how other manufacturers go about providing
 a fix given the limitations of hardware. Maybe a 3rd-party transcoding
 facility?

Michael is probably thinking about mysqueezebox.com use with the Touch
and Radio using the BBC Radio Applet. For that scenario he's probably
correct, the boxes stream direct from the source and mysqueezebox.com
doesn't do anything other than supply pointers to the streams etc.

I'm much more intersted in using my local LMS (I'm on the released 7.8)
to transcode, probably using the BBC iPlayer plugin to strip the HLS. I
use a Receiver so the AAC needs transcoding to FLAC anyway.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread bpa

majones wrote: 
 I It will be interesting to see how other manufacturers go about
 providing a fix given the limitations of hardware.

The HLS protocol is not that complicated especially if a player can
already play http/aac. Many of the affected players cannot play aac.

Is it in the interest of manufacturer to update old products where
development and test facilities have been mothballed and new codec
licenses have to be agreed. Better to encourage user to buy new latest
player.

Manufacturer are also wary of which standard will be required for next
year - HLS, HDS or DASH ? If the vendor provides an upgrade for HLS
today forp free - will it be outdated by 2016 and then will vendor then
be expected to product as DASH upgrade still at no cost to owner of
player.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-02-20 Thread garym

Jeff07971 wrote: 
 Mybe some one would like to suggest on the Sonos forums that they get
 LMS (on Pi maybe).
 Then with squeeze2upnp they could listen to the Hi Q streams on their
 Sonoses !
 :)

someone has already done just that.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-02-20 Thread Jeff07971

garym wrote: 
 someone has already done just that.

lolz  :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-02-20 Thread ftlight

Jeff07971 wrote: 
 Mybe some one would like to suggest on the Sonos forums that they get
 LMS (on Pi maybe).
 Then with squeeze2upnp they could listen to the Hi Q streams on their
 Sonoses !
 :)
You'd need someone much braver than me for that...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-02-20 Thread Jeff07971

Mybe some one would like to suggest on the Sonos forums that they get
LMS (on Pi maybe).
Then with squeeze2upnp they could listen to the Hi Q streams on their
Sonoses !
:)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread PasTim

Owen Smith wrote: 
 And AAC has to be licenced, so for any manufacturer to add it to an old
 player there are licence costs to consider. Many licences are per device
 that plays it, so for a manufacturer to put out a free software upgrade
 that might be installed on tens of thousands of players could cost a lot
 in licence fees. It's simply not going to happen.
For non-Logitech devices, such as Internet Radios that also support
UPnP, even if they can't handle aac and/or HLS, a UPnP server such as
minimserver can (and does) handle the necessary protocols and
transcoding for live listening.  LMS with squeeze2upnp can (and does) do
the same.  The future of listen-again is a bigger problem, and is, as
far as I can tell from public utterances, almost nothing is known about
it's future.  If the BBC iPlayer plugin can be fixed for listen-again
there's nothing much in it for Logitech either on the older devices.

I don't expect smaller suppliers, such as Musical Fidelity, to do much
if anything about HLS, at least until the Beeping Beeb makes up it's
mind about DASH etc.



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amps  to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers.  Meridian USB Explorer DAC from PCs
to speakers/headphones.  Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop controls
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin

2015-02-20 Thread countryman69

I am on Basic subscription.  Qobuz are now saying that this does not
allow using a mobile device such as an iPod.  It used to work fine but I
guess they plugged a hole as it isn't now.  What hacks me off with Qobuz
is that the promotional material on their website quite specifically
says for the Basic subscription that you can listen to 'all your music,
at home or ON THE GO (my caps).But when I asked them why had it
stopped working, they said that Basic was only for the desktop at home. 
So they are misleading customers.

For me, it's not worth shelling out any more just so I can listen to on
my iPod in my workshop attached to the house.  The daft thing is that if
I lugged my iMac down to the workshop then, of course, i could listen. 
But that is not practical.  Maybe I should buy an old Mac laptop!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-02-20 Thread castalla

majones wrote: 
 Of course, you'd expect Sonos users to employ someone rather than do it
 themselves. Is minimstreamer that little man from the village?

lol



Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers
Logitech Radio
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Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite - Logitech Mini Boombox
speaker (mothballed)
Cubieboard + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100
bluetooth speaker
O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers 
IBOX + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth
speaker
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread bpa

castalla wrote: 
 Don't support means now, I guess - but in the future, how easy would a
 firmware update be?
Triode's BBCiPlayer applet implemented Flash/aac - in theory another
applet could implement HLS -  I think the necessary hooks in mySB.com to
support such a applet were put in place for the BBCiPlayer Applet.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Headless music player on Ubuntu server

2015-02-20 Thread Christian Schoepplein

Hi Ralphy,

Am 20.02.2015 13:17, schrieb ralphy:


The Squeezebox client builds link in my signature has squeezelite
binaries for osx with all codecs compiled in.

[...]


(https://www.mediafire.com/folder/4q8dvq20iyz9e/Builds)


Very cool! With your precompiled packages of squeezelite I can play all 
music formats I'd like to! Thanks a lot!


Is somewhere described how compilation of the packages on OSX can be done?

Ciao,

  Schöpp


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: ShairTunes Plugin

2015-02-20 Thread Kim.T

odw199 wrote: 
 I have this working on a mac mini running yosemite, but only if I run
 slimserver.pl directly from the command line, not when using the start
 button in the Preference Pane (Pain?)
 
 When running from the pref pain I get the infamous:
 
 
  
Code:

  [15-02-20 17:51:03.5684] Slim::Networking::IO::Select::__ANON__ (147) 
Error: Select task failed calling 
Plugins::ShairTunes::Plugin::handleSocketRead: Expected port number from 
decoder; got  at 
/Users/tv/Library/Caches/Squeezebox/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/ShairTunes/Plugin.pm
 line 344.
   ; fh=IO::Socket::INET6=GLOB(0x7f971a0c8d48)

  
 
 
 Does anyone know what differences there are in how LMS starts between
 the command line and Pref Pane? I've checked they both use the same
 version of perl so presumably there is a difference in library used
 based on path ordering or some such but I haven't yet been able to
 figure it out.
 
 
 Update: the difference is the pref pane runs it as a daemon, how that
 stops shairport from running I don't know, but leaving a hidden
 terminal running behind Kodi isn't a problem

I tried to run
/Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/slimserver.pl
- but my problem is stil the same as in post #217
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?100379-Announce-ShairTunes-Pluginp=798302viewfull=1#post798302
This error came when I upgrade to 10.9 from 10.8. In 10.8 I got the same
error as you.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-02-20 Thread ftlight

Interesting exchange over at the Sonos user forum:

Chris:
Squeezebox has long been a user supported system. Logitech maintained
the basic server and yes they did abandon any further development from
Logitech end. Squeezebox is server and plugin based. Very differnt then
sonos and a pain in my *ss for years until I was wise enough to go with
sonos.

Ginseng: 
yet.  they have a solution to this problem.

https://ask.sonos.com/sonos/topics/bbc-radio-no-longer-provides-this-service-in-the-windows-media-format-how-do-i-listen-to-the-bbc-on



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-02-20 Thread majones

castalla wrote: 
 Some Sonos users are employing minimstreamer
Of course, you'd expect Sonos users to employ someone rather than do it
themselves. Is minimstreamer that little man from the village?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: YouTube Plugin

2015-02-20 Thread vryonid

smitti_ wrote: 
 The same problem for me and it really would be great if there is still
 one who can fix this awsome plugin :D
 It is so convinient if you just want to listen some livesets, or some
 pre-releases that you don't get for download anywhere.

Stopped working since HTML5 update. PLEASE Triode have a look :confused:



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread mrw

majones wrote: 
 Wow! I didn't realise that! So Applet deployment could enable the Radio
 and Touch to handle HLS without a firmware upgrade, and independently of
 LMS. That is clever.

Provided, I guess, that it can be effectively done in the 'Lua'
scripting language which runs on the devices. Rebuilding the binary
underpinnings would be a non-starter, at least the last time I looked,
because the aac decoder, or elements thereof, is not open source.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-02-20 Thread castalla

ftlight wrote: 
 You'd need someone much braver than me for that...

Some Sonos users are employing minimstreamer



Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers
Logitech Radio
Logitech UE Smart Radio
Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite - Logitech Mini Boombox
speaker (mothballed)
Cubieboard + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100
bluetooth speaker
O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers 
IBOX + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth
speaker
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread bpa

tiepx wrote: 
  bpa wrote: 
  
  
  
  Okay, so I ran:
  
  ffmpeg -loglevel verbose -i
  http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/nonuk/sbr_low/llnw/bbc_radio_fourfm.m3u8
  -f flac bbcr4.flc 21 | tee logfile
  
  The logfile is attached. 
  
  Many thanks for your help.  
 
 Just to be sure - you are outside the UK



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread bpa

mrw wrote: 
 Provided, I guess, that it can be effectively done in the 'Lua'
 scripting language which runs on the devices. Rebuilding the binary
 underpinnings would be a non-starter, at least the last time I looked,
 because the aac decoder, or elements thereof, is not open source.

I think some of the Lua for Flash was rewritten in 'C' for speed - I
can''t remember if that had to be included into a firmware build.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread bpa

tiepx wrote: 
  bpa wrote: 
  However, your comment ..makes me think there is a delay in receiving
  the stream... made me rethink this and I checked the time taken to
  resolve the URL on each machine and found the D510 to be much slower. 
  Even though the network configuration was identical on both machines,
  for some reason the DNS look-up on the D510 was much slower.  So for
  every new file delivered in the HLS stream another DNS look-up hit was
  incurred, hence the glitching audio.  
 HLS is new to me and so I've no experience on what causes certain
 symptom - so I have to do some guessing as to likely cause..  
 
(I am in the UK by the way.)  
 I thought it strange you were playing a non UK BBC URL



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread tiepx

bpa wrote: 
  tiepx wrote: 
  
  
  Just to be sure - you are outside the UK
  
  edit:
  
  I don't get errors with either stream.  The expired makes me think
  there is a delay in receiving the stream (i.e. network issue) or else
  there is something wrong in the ffmpeg build.  
 
 
 I have solved this.  I had tried the same ffmpeg binary on a different
 machine, a Core i3 also running Ubuntu 10.10, on the same network
 (literally connected to the same switch) and it worked fine.  I had
 also compared the download speed of both machines and found them to be
 the same, so I had discounted a network problem.
 
 However, your comment ..makes me think there is a delay in receiving
 the stream... made me rethink this and I checked the time taken to
 resolve the URL on each machine and found the D510 to be much slower. 
 Even though the network configuration was identical on both machines,
 for some reason the DNS look-up on the D510 was much slower.  So for
 every new file delivered in the HLS stream another DNS look-up hit was
 incurred, hence the glitching audio.
 
 I did not want to make any of the IPs static so I hacked
 /etc/resolv.conf to hard code new (different) list of DNS servers and
 then set the immutable attribute with chattr +i (I am never sure
 what the correct way to force this setup, dynamic IP with static DNS
 server address is).  This works!  I can now listen to all the high
 quality streams on my squeezebox radios and touch again.
 
 Many thanks for the plugin and all your help, much appreciated. I am
 very happy again now!
 
 (I am in the UK by the way.)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-02-20 Thread W92Neriah

bonze wrote: 
 Working OK here too, in the UK.
 
 And a few other random ones too.Thanks for testing - Panic over: I was 
 testing on one of my Squeezebox
Receivers (that I don't usually do Listen Again on), having installed
BPA's HLS plugin and for some reason it won't do Listen Again through
the BBC iPlayer plug-in, but other units e.g. a Squeezebox Radio (all
connected to same Squeezebox Server) are still doing Listen Again okay
(yesterday evening at least). I think it is a home IT problem, not BBC
this time!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread tiepx

Many thanks to bps for the plugin.  The plugin works fine, but I am
having trouble getting ffmpeg to work on my Atom D510 Ubuntu 10.10 (64
bit) server.  Trying to listen to BBC radio channels via the plugin on
my squeezebox radio produces brief snippets of audio interspersed with
long connecting/buffering gaps.  

When I try using ffmpeg from the command line, e.g. 

ffmpeg -i hls1.addictradio.net/addictalternative_aac_hls/playlist.m3u8
-f flac -compression_level 0 somefile.flc (with the http in front)

I get skipping 2 segments ahead, expired from playlists type messages.
A flac file is produced, but this contains glitches every ten seconds
- corresponding to the individual files making up the stream, I
suppose.

This occurs whether using the ffmpeg 2.5.4 that I built on the machine
or the static build from johnvansickle.  The same ffmpeg binary works
fine on my Intel i3 Ubuntu 10.10 (64 bit) server, producing a file with
no glitches and a windows build works fine on my i5 Windows 7 desktop
PC, so I assume the problem is with the Atom D510.  However, some people
seem to be reporting success with equally weak CPUs which is perplexing.
Moreover, top shows ffmpeg hat it is using very little CPU while
running on the D510, (ffmpeg very occasional spikes to 11% CPU) with the
overall CPU below 20% at all times.

Any suggestions gratefully received.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite to control amplifier power?

2015-02-20 Thread Cadster

tdwesty wrote: 
 Thanks for the suggestion. I assume you are referring to the numerous
 433Mhz transmitters for use with the Pi, of which I see plenty on ebay.
 However, I have not been able to find a receiver/relay that uses 5V to
 switch the 120V power to the amp - most of them seem to use 12 or 24VDC,
 so I would need another power source. Not a big deal, but I thought that
 if a USB power relay solution existed, this would be a simpler solution
 for use with a laptop (of which I have plenty - I don't have any Pi at
 the moment).
 
 Another solution would be to employ an input signal sensing relay to
 control the amplifier power. Many new inexpensive amps have this built
 in, but I would prefer to use the NAD amps that I currently have. The
 idle current is probably very low based on the minimal heat output, but
 I'd prefer to switch them if possible.
 
 Thanks

I also own a nad-amp and i control with lirc_web made by Alex Bain. I
run it on a raspberry pi with squeezelite. My nad amp switches off and
on with use of the plugin SBNetIO made by Cadfish wich sends a lirc
command to lirc_web. Perhaps this also could be a sollution for you.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread bpa

tiepx wrote: 
 ]ffmpeg -i hls1.addictradio.net/addictalternative_aac_hls/playlist.m3u8
 -f flac -compression_level 0 somefile.flc //quote]
 
 The above URL is as it is not geo blocked but is not always reliable - I
 prefer to use a BBC URL for test.
 
 Can you repeat with more diagnostic  ffmpeg -loglevel verbose -i ... 
 on a BBC m3u8 URL and copy output to a post or to a text file and zip
 and attach it to a post.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread castalla

majones wrote: 
 I did see a comment from Michael that HLS is most likely out of
 question, as our players don't support it
 (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?53229-Announce-BBCiPlayer-Plugin-(UK-only)p=806794viewfull=1#post806794).
 It will be interesting to see how other manufacturers go about providing
 a fix given the limitations of hardware. Maybe a 3rd-party transcoding
 facility?

Don't support means now, I guess - but in the future, how easy would a
firmware update be?



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Cubieboard + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread bpa

bpa wrote: 
 The log shows ffmpeg dying after about 3 secs...
 
 I think the Debug version of the Plugin si needed to check whether it is
 same problem or a new one.
 Again remove the old plugin and then install the new one from this
 repository
 
 http://homepage.eircom.net/~altondsl/repos/repo-playhlsdebug.xml
 
 Not sure why media scan is needed every time unless there is a
 permissions issue and LMS cannot write its database or prefs - anything
 in the server log.

I've managed to reproduce the symptom by telling ffmpeg to be critical
of protocol errors.  Can you try the following - the err_detect option
tells ffmpeg to ignore protocol errors but not sure if ti is implemented
on your version of ffmpeg.


ffmpeg -loglevel verbose -err_detect 32768 -i 
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/llnw/bbc_radio_fourfm.m3u8
-f flac bbc4fm.flc.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Annouce: Squeeze Control, a squeezebox remote app, is now available for Android

2015-02-20 Thread cathcam

wt0 wrote: 
 
 For anyone who feel that the removal was unfair and would like to
 protest, I would recommend flagging the Google Play Music app as
 inappropriate with the following reason This app is not authorized to
 publish album covers on behalf of the original content or brand owner

I tried this, I couldn't report the Play Music app via the web browser
interface, even though logged on and have the app. Will try on a device
later. Ridiculous, since I am the content owner for lots of my mp3's...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Qobuz.com streaming plugin

2015-02-20 Thread sebp

Nope, it's still working right for me with LMS  7.8.0 and plugin v1.204.
You may want to first check that your Qobuz subscription is still valid
and that your plugin credentials are the good ones.
Also, if you're -not- subscribing to some lossless offer, you'll want to
check that the plugin is set to play MP3.

That being said, I've already encountered cases where some albums aren't
available for streaming, in which case you'll only get short excerpts.
I guess it's a matter of Qobuz not having them tagged as non streamable,
because I'm pretty sure I've come across such one album recently, and
can't find it any more in the new music. So I think the plugin would
filter them out when tagged correctly.


On another subject, Qobuz would get a lot more money from me if I had a
mean to add albums to my cart (or at least favourites).
I don't think their API offers anything like that, right?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-02-20 Thread W92Neriah

bpa wrote: 
 Make sure you have set the most comprehensive setting for audio formats
 and enable Transcoding. Hi BPA, thanks for the reply. Aren't these settings 
 for the BBC iPlayer
plug-in server-wide (On Demand Stream Preference: AAC  FlashAAC 
FlashMP3  WMA and Allow Transcoding enabled)?

I can get my Squeezebox Radios (Firmware: 7.5.4-r9408) to do On Demand
streaming with the BBC iPlayer plug-in, but not my Squeezebox Receivers
(Firmware: 69). Same Squeezebox Server, same internet
connection/firewall :confused:



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread Owen Smith

bpa wrote: 
 The HLS protocol is not that complicated especially if a player can
 already play http/aac. Many of the affected players cannot play aac.

And AAC has to be licenced, so for any manufacturer to add it to an old
player there are licence costs to consider. Many licences are per device
that plays it, so for a manufacturer to put out a free software upgrade
that might be installed on tens of thousands of players could cost a lot
in licence fees. It's simply not going to happen.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-02-20 Thread bpa

W92Neriah wrote: 
 or some reason it won't do Listen Again through the BBC iPlayer plug-in,

Make sure you have set the most comprehensive setting for audio formats
and enable Transcoding.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread majones

bpa wrote: 
 I think many people don't realise that the Adobe Flash protocol was
 implemented in the Applet which is a significant piece of code.
Wow! I didn't realise that! So Applet deployment could enable the Radio
and Touch to handle HLS without a firmware upgrade, and independently of
LMS. That is clever.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-02-20 Thread slartibartfast

W92Neriah wrote: 
 Uh-oh, has the BBC started the Listen Again lobotomy already, or is this
 just affecting me?: From my Squeezebox Duet controller I am selecting
 BBC iPlayer  BBC Radio 4 Extra  Scroll down past the days of the
 week to the program names... e.g. Just a Minute  Anything I select
 now does this:
 
 Fetching track details Then after a few seconds I get Problem:
 Can't open file for rtmp://bbcodspddns.fcod.llnwd.net:1935?app=YT...
 
 This was working fine a couple of days ago: Is everyone (anyone?!?)
 getting this when they try to access Listen Again from the BBC iPlayer
 plugin (or have I just broken something by installing BPA's HLS plug-in
 (which is now working great for BBC live radio HLS streams))?
I just tried playing a Small Faces documentary on BBC 6 on demand which
failed because the stream was wma. Have the aac streams been turned off?





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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-02-20 Thread majones

ftlight wrote: 
 Interesting exchange over at the Sonos user forum:
 Chris:
 Squeezebox has long been a user supported system. Logitech maintained
 the basic server and yes they did abandon any further development from
 Logitech end. Squeezebox is server and plugin based. Very differnt then
 sonos and a pain in my *ss for years until I was wise enough to go with
 sonos.
 Ginseng: 
 yet.  they have a solution to this problem.
 
Squeezebox is for grown ups!:p



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream

2015-02-20 Thread tiepx

bpa wrote: 
  tiepx wrote: 
  ]ffmpeg -i hls1.addictradio.net/addictalternative_aac_hls/playlist.m3u8
  -f flac -compression_level 0 somefile.flc //quote]
  
  The above URL is as it is not geo blocked but is not always reliable - I
  prefer to use a BBC URL for test.
  
  Can you repeat with more diagnostic  ffmpeg -loglevel verbose -i ... 
  on a BBC m3u8 URL and copy output to a post or to a text file and zip
  and attach it to a post.  
 
 
 Okay, so I ran:
 
 ffmpeg -loglevel verbose -i
 http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/nonuk/sbr_low/llnw/bbc_radio_fourfm.m3u8
 -f flac bbcr4.flc 21 | tee logfile
 
 The logfile is attached. 
 
 Many thanks for your help.


+---+
|Filename: logfile.zip  |
|Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17456|
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-02-20 Thread Raymond Woodward

ftlight wrote: 
 Interesting exchange over at the Sonos user forum:
 
 Chris:
 Squeezebox has long been a user supported system. Logitech maintained
 the basic server and yes they did abandon any further development from
 Logitech end. Squeezebox is server and plugin based. Very differnt then
 sonos and a pain in my *ss for years until I was wise enough to go with
 sonos.
 
 Ginseng: 
 yet.  they have a solution to this problem.
 
 
 
 
 Some peoples tempers are getting frayed in other forums leading them to
 say rather silly childish things.
 
 (off now to listen to inconcert on Radio 3 AAC, 320 Kbits @48 kHz) ...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: ShairTunes Plugin

2015-02-20 Thread odw199

If you type


Code:

which perl



at the command line what do you get?

After installing MacPorts I found I had two versions, one in /opt and
one in /usr/bin

My command prompt had /opt earlier in the path than /usr/bin so when I
manually added the required dependancies with cpan, they were added to
the /opt version. But slimserver.pl specifies the path to perl as
/usr/bin/perl, therefore the installed cpan modules were not being
used.

To fix this I temporarily removed /opt from my path:

export PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin

Then re-ran the cpan installs which added them to the /usr/bin version.
Starting slimserver.pl then worked with the shairport plugin



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