Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: ShairTunes2 plugin - Airtunes on your LMS

2015-12-30 Thread guiness

Installed on LMS on my Macbook Air running El Capitan. Squeezebox is
visible as airplay option and can be selected. The song is showing under
"now playing" but there is no sound. Pressing play won't do anything.
Under iPeng there seems to be an error about connecting to the server.
Seems strange that the player knows exactly what it is supposed to be
playing but can't do it. I'm no coder like some of you and I will have
to give up on this unless someone can give me some options to try.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

2015-12-30 Thread philippe_44

catweazle70 wrote: 
> Hello,
> 
> I hope someone can help me with this.
> 
> I previously had UPnP Bridge running successfully on LMS 7.8.0
> 
> However it's now not working - I get the message that 'Configuration
> file missing' on the  UPnP Bridge settings page. I have tried to
> generate one but on viewing the config file I get this message.
> 
> XML Parsing Error: no element found
> Location: http://192.168.0.2:9000/upnpbridge-config.xml
> Line Number 1, Column 1:
> 
> I wonder if the config XML file has been corrupted.
> 
> Can anyone offer any pointers to get it working.
> 
> Many thanks

Have you tried the "erase" option ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

2015-12-30 Thread philippe_44

PasTim wrote: 
> I found this - https://www.docker.com/what-docker but can't say I fully
> understand it.

Yes it is the close to the benefits of a Virtual Machine but much
lighter. Instead of having a complete CPU "virtualized" and installing a
whole operating system on it from scratch, it uses the physical (real)
base operating system (Linux) of your machine and overlays just the
libraries, apps or drivers you need to build your "virtual machine"
(container). It's very popular in server because it's faster to
deploy/boot than a full VM.



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JRiver 21, Chromecast Audio, Chromecast v1, Pi B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+,
Odroid-C1, Cubie2

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

2015-12-30 Thread trendman

Hello Philippe 44,

Thank you for this great plugin ! :cool:
Yesterday I've upgraded LMS to 7.9.0 - 023.1010  on my NAS Synology
DS209+ (OS: DSM4.2, Processor : PPC)
I've used the binary squeeze2upnp-ppc-static to install UPNP/DLNA Bridge
V0.2.7.1

I've tested the plugin on my Denon RCD N7 and my Sharp XL-HF 401
Good sound, internet radio work great, mp3 track and deezer track too.
The LMS Wakeup to ! But I've 2 problems

1/ next track problem
When I play an album or a playlist (local mp3 or Deezer), LMS play the
first track, but don't change to the next track at the end of the first.
If I change the track manualy, no problem, LMS play the second track
If I do the same with my SqueezeRadio, my squeezeBoom, or my raspberry
pi with Max2Play and Squezzepliug, LMS play automaticaly the second
track after the first.
Any idea to resolve it ?

2/ Sync problem
I've tested to sync the squeezeRadio in my bathroom and the Denon RCD N7
in my room, but I've 30 ms of delay beetween the radio and the Denon
I think it's a normal latence beetween LMS and DLNA, and we can't fix
it

Regards,
Arnaud



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

2015-12-30 Thread philippe_44

trendman wrote: 
> Hello Philippe 44,
> 
> Thank you for this great plugin ! :cool:
> Yesterday I've upgraded LMS to 7.9.0 - 023.1010  on my NAS Synology
> DS209+ (OS: DSM4.2, Processor : PPC)
> I've used the binary squeeze2upnp-ppc-static to install UPNP/DLNA Bridge
> V0.2.7.1
> 
> I've tested the plugin on my Denon RCD N7 and my Sharp XL-HF 401
> Good sound, internet radio work great, mp3 track and deezer track too.
> The LMS Wakeup to ! But I've 2 problems
> 
> 1/ next track problem
> When I play an album or a playlist (local mp3 or Deezer), LMS play the
> first track, but don't change to the next track at the end of the first.
> If I change the track manualy, no problem, LMS play the second track
> If I do the same with my SqueezeRadio, my squeezeBoom, or my raspberry
> pi with Max2Play and Squezzepliug, LMS play automaticaly the second
> track after the first.
> Any idea to resolve it ?
> 
Go into the LMS settings, advanced, select 'UPnP/DLNA bridge' and here
you have a set of options for your players. Uou mist change "Player
supports gapless" to 'no'

> 
> 2/ Sync problem
> I've tested to sync the squeezeRadio in my bathroom and the Denon RCD N7
> in my room, but I've 30 ms of delay beetween the radio and the Denon
> I think it's a normal latence beetween LMS and DLNA, and we can't fix
> it
> 
You cannot have sync with UPnP devices - have a look at the manual
(accessible from the settings page), you'll find explanation for all
these parameters



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

2015-12-30 Thread epoch1970

Bpa,
I've reactivated iPlayer and right away the new plugin seems to work
great, here in France.

Right now I have at hand 2 SB3s and 2 Booms, all using wifi. Wifi is
*extremely* good, multiple airport express APs networked over powerline
adapters (1200mbps, if you believe what's written on it)
The server is a puny Geode LX800 from Pc engines running Linux 4 and an
LMS built this week. I've set the transcoding options to DASH>Flash
MP3>AAC (out of the box I had a timeout, so I changed to this. I don't
know what I'm doing; and don't remember which libs are installed on the
machine. The machine is loaded, it is probably transcoding.)
The geode is known for its poor clock, but it is being helped via NTP.

If you care, we can run tests, esp. If it involves listening to
classical programs ;) please let me know.

In any case, thanks for yet another great contribution!



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plugins: CD Player, WaveInput by bpa • IRBlaster by Gwendesign (Felix) •
Server Power Control by Gordon Harris • Smart Mix, Music Walk With Me,
What Was That Tune? by Michael Herger • PowerSave by Jason Holtzapple •
Song Info, Song Lyrics by Erland Isaksson • WeatherTime by Martin
Rehfeld • ShairTunes2 by disaster123 • Local Player, BBC iPlayer by
Triode • Auto Dim Display, SaverSwitcher, ContextMenu by Peter Watkins.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

2015-12-30 Thread mnrbig

Hi all

Is there anyone that can give me a few pointers as how to get the plug
in working on a docker version of LMS?  My devices are not being seen by
the plug in.  I assume it's a ports thing, but don't know which ones.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

2015-12-30 Thread philippe_44

mnrbig wrote: 
> Hi all
> 
> Is there anyone that can give me a few pointers as how to get the plug
> in working on a docker version of LMS?  My devices are not being seen by
> the plug in.  I assume it's a ports thing, but don't know which ones.

Make sure your docker allows the plugin to open ports (usually 49152 for
listening) as well as receiving UPnP/SSDP multicast messages (can't
remember the exacts port numbers, they are easy to find). I've never
tried to run inside a docker instance, but there should be nothing very
specific. It runs fine inside VB instances



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SuperDateTime - Current Date/Temperature and/or Baseball Screensaver

2015-12-30 Thread tcutting

I finally incorporated BoomX2's latest sport score updates to the
"weather underground" version of SuperDateTime.

If you use the wunderground version repository, you should be able to
update within LMS.

Manual install .zip file can be found at:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/superdatetimewu/files/SuperDateTime_5_10_19.zip/download

As always, let me know if you find issues.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

2015-12-30 Thread Owen Smith

PasTim wrote: 
> I found this - https://www.docker.com/what-docker but can't say I fully
> understand it.

All I could think of was iPhone docks.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SuperDateTime - Current Date/Temperature and/or Baseball Screensaver

2015-12-30 Thread tcutting

phred wrote: 
> I'm using SDT 5.10.18 (T. Cutting's version) and I happened to look in
> my server log today and noticed these entries - going back at least to
> the beginning of December.  Could've been before that, but I was culling
> old entries from the log and pared it back to Dec 1.  Just updated LMS
> today from 7.8.1-1449436296 to 7.9.0-1449746132
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > [15-12-09 21:23:16.1169] Plugins::SuperDateTime::Plugin::gotErrorViaHTTP 
(6894) error getting 
http://aa.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/aa_mrst2.pl?form=2=AA=2015=12=9=5=11=%28no+name+given%29_sign=-1_deg=71_min=13_sec=30.0_sign=1_deg=42_min=19_sec=51.6==5.0_sign=-1
  > [15-12-09 21:23:16.1171] Plugins::SuperDateTime::Plugin::gotErrorViaHTTP 
(6895) Couldn't resolve IP address for: aa.usno.navy.mil
  > [15-12-09 21:23:16.1173] Plugins::SuperDateTime::Plugin::gotErrorViaHTTP 
(6899) Network error count reached during getMoonData.
  > 

> > 
> Nothing seems amiss.  The time displays correctly on my Touch and
> Radio.  And I haven't yet displayed Moon info on either device.

phred-
Others have seen issues with accessing the "aa.usno.navy.mil" web site -
(US Navy Observatory) - I thought it was maybe blocking access from
certain other countries. I use this site to find the moon rise and set
times.  Unfortunately, that information isn't provided by the
weatherunderground queries, and I haven't found another good source for
this data.  If weatherunderground adds this info to their API, I can
simplify the process, and get rid of the additional web query, but at
this time it's my only source.  As you said, it doesn't "break" SDT, so
I don't plan to change anything at this time - it still works from my
setup.



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[SlimDevices: Plugins] Trackstat restore only partially restores ratings

2015-12-30 Thread yocky

I just installed LMS 7.9 on a second PC and copied my music library
over.

The file names are identical but the path is slightly different
(e:\music\ instead of  i:\all\music), however the files I'm really
interested in are musicbrainz tagged so I didn't think this was
important.

I did a fresh scan and then a trackstat restore from my latest backup
file.

This has partially worked. Some ratings have been restored and some
haven't. Even stranger is that the playcount seems to have been restored
for even the tracks that haven't had the ratings restored.

Any ideas?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2015-12-30 Thread PasTim

SilentBob wrote: 
> I've only registered to pass on my appreciation.  I've just undertaken a
> migration of LMS from Windows Home Server to a Netgear ReadyNAS and,
> thanks to this thread, I can still hear BBC 6music on listen live.
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Rob
Thanks, but I only attempt to report on the work others have done to
keep all this working.  An amazing bunch of people :)



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44.1->192kbps. 
LMS plugin UPnP/DLNA Bridge to MF M1 CLiC (to 405/2 amp & ESLs) &
Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers.  
Alternatively Minimserver & Upplay to same & to upmpdcli/mpd PC
renderers.  
Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to PC speakers/headphones.  
Wireless Xubuntu 15.10 laptop firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with
Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver.  
Also a Touch with EDO, plus spare, unused.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

2015-12-30 Thread PasTim

Owen Smith wrote: 
> I have no idea what a "docker version of LMS" is, perhaps you could
> explain in case no-one else knows either.
I found this - https://www.docker.com/what-docker but can't say I fully
understand it.



LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi box, Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16->24 bit,
44.1->192kbps. 
LMS plugin UPnP/DLNA Bridge to MF M1 CLiC (to 405/2 amp & ESLs) &
Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers.  
Alternatively Minimserver & Upplay to same & to upmpdcli/mpd PC
renderers.  
Squeezelite to Meridian USB Explorer DAC to PC speakers/headphones.  
Wireless Xubuntu 15.10 laptop firefox/upplay or Android 'phone with
Squeeze-Commander/BubbleUPnP controls LMS/Minimserver.  
Also a Touch with EDO, plus spare, unused.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

2015-12-30 Thread catweazle70

Hello,

I hope someone can help me with this.

I previously had UPnP Bridge running successfully on LMS 7.8.0

However it's now not working - I get the message that 'Configuration
file missing' on the  UPnP Bridge settings page. I have tried to
generate one but on viewing the config file I get this message.

XML Parsing Error: no element found
Location: http://192.168.0.2:9000/upnpbridge-config.xml
Line Number 1, Column 1:

I wonder if the config XML file has been corrupted.

Can anyone offer any pointers to get it working.

Many thanks



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: SuperDateTime - Current Date/Temperature and/or Baseball Screensaver

2015-12-30 Thread mbonsack

tcutting wrote: 
> 
> Manual install .zip file can be found at:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/superdatetimewu/files/SuperDateTime_5_10_19.zip/download
> 
> As always, let me know if you find issues.

mbonsack$ wget
"http://sourceforge.net/projects/superdatetimewu/files/latest/download;
--2015-12-30 15:56:48-- 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/superdatetimewu/files/latest/download
Resolving sourceforge.net... 216.34.181.60
Connecting to sourceforge.net|216.34.181.60|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found
Location:
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/superdatetimewu/SuperDateTime_5_10_19.zip?r==1451519811
[following]
--2015-12-30 15:56:51-- 
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/superdatetimewu/SuperDateTime_5_10_19.zip?r==1451519811
Resolving downloads.sourceforge.net... 216.34.181.59
Connecting to downloads.sourceforge.net|216.34.181.59|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
2015-12-30 15:56:55 ERROR 404: Not Found.

Trying to download via browser from sourceforge simply returns a
directory listing.  That is, of course, where I started via your link.

Thanks as always for keeping this maintained!

-mark



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

2015-12-30 Thread Owen Smith

mnrbig wrote: 
> Is there anyone that can give me a few pointers as how to get the plug
> in working on a docker version of LMS?  My devices are not being seen by
> the plug in.  I assume it's a ports thing, but don't know which ones.

I have no idea what a "docker version of LMS" is, perhaps you could
explain in case no-one else knows either.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

2015-12-30 Thread trendman

philippe_44 wrote: 
> Go into the LMS settings, advanced, select 'UPnP/DLNA bridge' and here
> you have a set of options for your players. Uou mist change "Player
> supports gapless" to 'no'
> 
> 
> You cannot have sync with UPnP devices, there is unfortunately no way
> around.
> 
> Have a look at the manual (accessible from the settings page), you'll
> find explanation for all these parameters :)

Hello Philippe
I didn't see this option in the guide. Thank you. Yet it's ok
Arnaud



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide

2015-12-30 Thread SilentBob

I've only registered to pass on my appreciation.  I've just undertaken a
migration of LMS from Windows Home Server to a Netgear ReadyNAS and,
thanks to this thread, I can still hear BBC 6music on listen live.

Many thanks

Rob



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

2015-12-30 Thread bpa

Raymond Woodward wrote: 
> Apologies if I appear to be trying to teach my grandmother to suck eggs
> here, but I came across this thread (not DASH related) that suggested a
> setting option in LMS that appears (for me at least) to help matters
> quite a lot.
> 
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104894-deezer-rebuffers-via-LMS-but-not-via-Chrome

This setting has no relevance to the BBCiPlayer playing HLS, DASH or
RTMP because these are not native formats for the players.  If you are
seeing an improvement with these streams it is a placebo effect.

When connected to LMS - SB players can play internet radio streams
either "direct" (i.e. stream goes from station direct to player and LMS
does nothing) or "proxied" (i.e. stream goes from station to LMS which
then retransmite to player).
So if a SB player can play a station through with mysqueezebox.com then
it can be played "direct".

When players are synchronised all data goes from station to LMS and then
LMS sends multiple copies to each player in sync group.  The "proxied"
setting is effectively sync playing but one player in sync group.

The HLS, DASH and RTMP (Flash) formats need to be processed by LMS first
before being sent to the player - so "proxied" setting has no effect.  

"proxied" setting can help with some station / home networks where the
stream gets "lumpy" and if playing "directly" SB player buffer gets
depleted if it does not get data in time and cannot catch up resulting
in rebuffering.  With "proxied" the LMS can buffer far more data than a
player and so smooth out the lumpiness of the stream.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] deezer rebuffers via LMS but not via Chrome

2015-12-30 Thread pippin

In this case it's important because the ickStream plugin's override
(which does enable it by default for lossless streams) isn't yet enabled
for Deezer.
Deezer Elite didn't get officially released with ickStream yet because
it's currently only sold through Sonos so I guess we forgot it.
Will get fixed, in the meantime the player setting is a good workaround.
That said Like with TIDAL the real fix will have to be an optimized
CDN



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] deezer rebuffers via LMS but not via Chrome

2015-12-30 Thread bpa

Raymond Woodward wrote: 
> Quite agree, this setting seems to cover a multitude of sins when using
> an online service.
> 
> Makes life much easier (for me) with the BBC IPlayer plug in with DASH
> for example  ..

please stop spreading false info - this setting has no relevance to
BBCiPlayer except when playin MP3 streams.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] deezer rebuffers via LMS but not via Chrome

2015-12-30 Thread Raymond Woodward

callesoroe wrote: 
> This problem pops up quite often. And as most SB users has at least one
> online streaming service, I think this should be de DEFAULT setting in
> LMS. Something for Michael Herger to implement ??

Quite agree, this setting seems to cover a multitude of sins when using
an online service.

Makes life much easier (for me) with the BBC IPlayer plug in with DASH
for example  ...

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

2015-12-30 Thread Raymond Woodward

Apologies if I appear to trying to teach my grandmother to suck eggs
here, but I came across this thread (not DASH related) that suggested a
setting option in LMS that appears (for me at least) to help matters
quite a lot.

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104894-deezer-rebuffers-via-LMS-but-not-via-Chrome

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

2015-12-30 Thread Owen Smith

garym wrote: 
> Understand, and probably out of place in this particular thread. 
> Perhaps I immediately understood the joke because I'm very familiar with
> Julf's many posts in other threads and know he thinks just the opposite
> from the surface meaning of the text (which is what makes it funny, at
> least to me).  Anyhow, Julf can defend himself

Whereas I don't recognise Julf's name and checked how many posts he'd
ever made, half expecting it to be in single digits or even 1.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)

2015-12-30 Thread Klaas

Hi Triode,

I would need to patch your "ProtocolHandler.pm", but I am not sure how
it can be done. I would need some help how the spotifydeamon works with
libspotify.

I tried this:

Code:


  sub new {
# my ($class, $args) = @_;
#
# my $client = $args->{'client'};
#
# if ($args->{'url'} =~ 
/spotify:artist|spotify:album|spotify:user:.*:playlist/) {
#   return undef;
# }
#
# $log->warn("Spotify client not supported: " . $client->model);
#
# $client->showBriefly({ line => [ string('PLUGIN_SPOTIFY'), 
string('PLUGIN_SPOTIFY_PLAYER_NOT_SUPPORTED') ] },
#{ block => 1, duration => 5 });
#
# return undef;
my $class  = shift;
my $args   = shift;
  
my $client = $args->{client};
  
my $song = $client->streamingSong;
my $streamUrl = $song->streamUrl() || return;
# my $track = $song->pluginData();
  
$log->info("Playing remote via spotifyd: $streamUrl");
  
my $song = $client->streamingSong;
  
my $host = Slim::Utils::Network::serverAddr();
my $port = $prefs->get('httpport');
# for clients connecting on localhost always use localhost address to 
connect to helper
if ($client->ip eq '127.0.0.1') {
$host = '127.0.0.1';
}
$streamUrl =~ s{^spotify://}{spotify:};
$streamUrl = "http://$host:$port/$streamUrl;;
#$song->streamUrl($streamUrl);
  
main::DEBUGLOG && $log->is_debug && $log->debug( 'Remote streaming 
Spotify track: ' . $streamUrl );
  
my $sock = $class->SUPER::new( {
url => $streamUrl,
song=> $song,
client  => $client,
bitrate => 320_000,
} ) || return;
  
${*$sock}{contentType} = 'audio/mpeg';
$log->info("returning socket for Spotify: " . $sock);
return $sock;
  }
  



But to no avail. If I do not use

Code:


  use base qw(Slim::Player::Protocols::HTTP);
  


the code is at least used.

If I add the base to HTTP, the code is never used. I don't get any log
output.

Was there a reason to not add the ProtocolHandler new method as it is
provided by all Plugins that are delivered with LMS?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

2015-12-30 Thread Julf

Owen Smith wrote: 
> Whereas I don't recognise Julf's name and checked how many posts he'd
> ever made, half expecting it to be in single digits or even 1.

You clearly haven't been following the audiophile subsection - and I
don't blame you.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

2015-12-30 Thread Julf

Owen Smith wrote: 
> That wasn't remotely clear. In the absence of a smiley (or other
> emoticon), text is read literally online.

True. I should have used an emoticon, but I was sure people here have
been around long enough to a) know where I stand on these issues, and b)
recognize a typical audiophile foo response.

> this is a technical site not an online comic.


Now I think it was you who forgot the emoticon. :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

2015-12-30 Thread bpa

Julf wrote: 
> True. I should have used an emoticon, but I was sure people here have
> been around long enough to a) know where I stand on these issues, and b)
> recognize a typical audiophile foo response.

I have had over the years a number of PMs criticising my responses to
users about not being tolerant enough of user's gaps in tech knowledge.
I had thought your reply could be yet another criticism since I don't
consider the term "placebo" derogatory merely a well documented
phenomenon.

Enough of this digression.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

2015-12-30 Thread Julf

bpa wrote: 
> If you are seeing an improvement with these streams it is a placebo
> effect.

"Placebo effect" is just a derogatory term used by people who don't have
an open mind, and are limited to resorting to silly things called
"facts" as opposed to first hand experience.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

2015-12-30 Thread garym

Julf wrote: 
> "Placebo effect" is just a derogatory term used by people who don't have
> an open mind, and are limited to resorting to silly things called
> "facts" as opposed to first hand experience.

WaitJulf is just being funny here, just making the kind of remark
audiophools often make. He was channeling his inner SB!K.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

2015-12-30 Thread Owen Smith

garym wrote: 
> WaitJulf is just being funny here, just making the kind of remark
> audiophools often make. He was channeling his inner SB!K.

That wasn't remotely clear. In the absence of a smiley (or other
emoticon), text is read literally online. There's no context to imply he
wasn't being literal, this is a technical site not an online comic.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

2015-12-30 Thread garym

Owen Smith wrote: 
> That wasn't remotely clear. In the absence of a smiley (or other
> emoticon), text is read literally online. There's no context to imply he
> wasn't being literal, this is a technical site not an online comic.

Understand, and probably out of place in this particular thread. 
Perhaps I immediately understood the joke because I'm very familiar with
Julf's many posts in other threads and know he thinks just the opposite
from the surface meaning of the text (which is what makes it funny, at
least to me).  Anyhow, Julf can defend himself



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

2015-12-30 Thread bpa

Julf wrote: 
> "Placebo effect" is just a derogatory term used by people who don't have
> an open mind, and are limited to resorting to silly things called
> "facts" as opposed to first hand experience.

Not sure what this comment is trying to say.

A user said after changing an LMS setting he experienced an improvement
in the behavioure of a plugin.  Having written the plugin code I know
that the setting does not change the behaviour and no improvement can
have occurred.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

2015-12-30 Thread Owen Smith

Julf wrote: 
> "Placebo effect" is just a derogatory term used by people who don't have
> an open mind, and are limited to resorting to silly things called
> "facts" as opposed to first hand experience.

What are you talking about? BBC iPlayer plugin always relays data
through the LMS server, so any perceived improvement turning on/off
proxied playback is either imagined or an accidental coincidence with
some other change eg. broadband or BBC issues. "Placebo effect" is a
good shorthand for that. If you actually think something else is going
on inside LMS and the plugin then you are wrong, bpa knows what he's
talking about.

I will not discuss the existence or otherwise of Placebo Effect in
medicine here, since it is wildly off topic.



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