Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

[castalla]

usc95 wrote: 
> I came here to ask the same question.  I am really curious to know if
> the Soundtouch will work with the bridge.  Anyone???

I seriously doubt it will work - I've searched and posted without
success.  Bose seem uninterested in implementing a standard DLNA
protocol.  They've also removed Airplay from all their later models and
extol the virtues of bluetooth (???!!!) as the way forward.

Not a viable option for LMS users, sadly.



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UPnPBridge - 2 paired Sonos Play1 speakers; Rocki - Sony SRS-BTM8
speaker; Pioneer WX-SMA1 speaker;  - PURE One Flow internet radio: PURE
Jongo S3x ; Jongo T2; Libratone Zipp
Castbridge - Chromecast 1 + Chromecast Audio
AirplayBridge - Loewe Airspeaker
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)

[usc95]

castalla wrote: 
> Has anybody tried the upnpbridge with Bose soundtouch devices?

I came here to ask the same question.  I am really curious to know if
the Soundtouch will work with the bridge.  Anyone???



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] ANNOUNCE: YouTube Plugin (API v3)

[philippe_44]

theadmans wrote: 
> Have installed the latest plugin and entered the API key. However, all
> the search boxes return Empty? If I choose recently played this works
> and plays the audio through my SBT. What am I doing wrong with the
> search choices?

Can you say precisely how you do your search and give an example of a
search?



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JRiver 21, Chromecast Audio, Chromecast v1, Pi B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+,
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] ANNOUNCE: YouTube Plugin (API v3)

[theadmans]

Have installed the latest plugin and entered the API key. However, all
the search boxes return Empty? If I choose recently played this works
and plays the audio through my SBT. What am I doing wrong with the
search choices?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] ANNOUNCE: YouTube Plugin (API v3)

[theadmans]

OK haven't used the plugin for some time. Tonight installed the latest
version and figured out the API key stuff. I now get the search boxes
when I run the plugin. However, every search I do is coming up with
Empty? Interestingly if I choose recently played a video I last played
before the API change comes up and will play the audio through my SBT.
What am I doing wrong here on the searches?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

[bpa]

TheLastMan wrote: 
> *Nobody* has a right to "complain" to you bpa, you work tirelessly for
> nothing helping to keep this system running and saving people a ton of
> money buying replacement equipment.  We BBC fans are eternally grateful.
> I might beg, grovel and implore, but I promise not to complain ;)

Complain might have been a bitr strng - what happens is that a user
might report a fault with DASH and after a while debugging you find the
problem is actually in HLS - user has forgotten they changed pref.  - so
life becomes simpler if features are identical - both for debugging and
in answering questions abotu why there is a difference. 

>  Your post above has made me think about an occasional problem that may
> give you another clue.  When using DASH sometimes, rather than
> re-buffer, the stream will simply stop, as if the stop button had been
> pressed on the controller.  Press start on the Controller and the stream
> will restart.  This is a random occurance and less common than the
> re-buffering.
1.4.8 was an attempt to minimise some of this by improving so of the
fetching of packets.  If a packet is slow then you get rebuffering
because data has arrived in sequeence just not received in time. However
if packet does nto arrive at all - then stream stops.  Besides cache,
1.4.8 had a start delay which some user didn't like.


> The plugin works fine for me at the moment with HLS set as the first
> file type, but I am happy to switch over to DASH at any point if you
> want anything tested.  Thanks for all your endeavours, we all owe you a
> lot.
HLS is there because Triode implemented it.  I only do simple
maintenance but I can't do anything more as I don't have any other Apple
HLS player (e.g. iphone).  HLS has a similar rebuffering issues which I
think has the same underlying cause as the DASH rebuffering so again the
two protocols progress together.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

[mrmichaelwright]

I second that. I held off posting any problems on here for years as i
felt i had nothing to offer in return for others hard work. 

I still don't but am getting more selfish as i get older i suppose.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

[TheLastMan]

bpa wrote: 
> In DASH each of the segment is numbered (it is related to UTC)  and it
> is up to the plugin to figure out the URL with the correct segment
> number - LMS will not know.   Up to know the plugin left LMS to deal
> with pause/stop etc functionality (which can get messy as I have a jump
> back / forward facility so the segment number relating to the time when
> pause was pressed can be offset by the jump time value)  and so I have
> no idea what LMS decides as I think LMS may change pauses to stops under
> some circumstances.  All this is speculation which is why it needs lots
> of time to  fix.
> 
> HLS is different  and pause may or may not work but if it doesn't it
> will be harder to make it work and if I fix DASH I'll have to fix HLS as
> otherwise users complain.
*Nobody* has a right to "complain" to you bpa, you work tirelessly for
nothing helping to keep this system running and saving people a ton of
money buying replacement equipment.  We BBC fans are eternally grateful.
I might beg, grovel and implore, but I promise not to complain ;)

Your post above has made me think about an occasional problem that may
give you another clue.  When using DASH sometimes, rather than
re-buffer, the stream will simply stop, as if the stop button had been
pressed on the controller.  Press start on the Controller and the stream
will restart.  This is a random occurance and less common than the
re-buffering.

The plugin works fine for me at the moment with HLS set as the first
file type, but I am happy to switch over to DASH at any point if you
want anything tested.  Thanks for all your endeavours, we all owe you a
lot.



Matt
SQUEEZEBOXES:[/B] TWO SB DUETS (LIVING ROOM AND KITCHEN) AND A
*'PICOREPLAYER' (HTTPS://SITES.GOOGLE.COM/SITE/PICOREPLAYER/HOME)
[b]Server:* Synology DS214 (2TB) NAS running LMS 7.9
*Network:* TP-Link Archer VR200 router, Draytek Vigor 130 VDSL modem,
TP-Link access point
*Livingroom:* Receiver, Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap/110/Headline amp, B
CM2 speakers
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayerExtra does not play when BASH isenabled

[Rainer M Krug]

bpa  writes:

> BobSammers wrote: 
>> Thank you, I'll have a look at how this works.
>> 
>> What will happen to my customised menus when the plugins are updated?
>
> They'll be overwritten. It is possible the custom menu.opml  will need
> to be udpated as well.  What you should do is create your custom
> menu.opml file in a normal user directory and use a "file://" with the
> Setting replacement menu.opml facility to copy the file to the plugin
> directory.

I wold be interested in a unified menu as well - could you possibly
upload the custom opml to github sio that others could use it as well?

That would be really great

Rainer


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

[bpa]

BobSammers wrote: 
> So how does this lead to pausing for (say) 30min is okay but pausing for
> 4 hours is not? Why doesn't LMS just ask for the chunk it was on again
> when the stream is resumed, regardless of the intervening time?

In DASH each of the segment is numbered (it is related to UTC)  and it
is up to the plugin to figure out the URL with the coirrect segment
number - LMS will not know.   Up to know the plugin left LMS to deal
with pause/stop etc functionality (which can get messy as I have a jump
back / forward facility so the segment number relating to the time when
pause was pressed can be offset by the jump time value)  and so I have
no idea what LMS decides as I think LMS mau change pauss to stops under
some circumstacnes.  All this is speculation which is why it needs lots
of time to  fix.

HLS is different  and pause may or may not work but if it doesn't it
will be harder to make it work and if I fix DASH I'll have to fix HLS as
otherwise users complain.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

[BobSammers]

bpa wrote: 
> With chunked http most of the time there is no http connection open
> since each 6 secs file takes about 250msec to download and so one
> connection is only normally open for 250msec at time about once every 6
> secs.
Got you - with DASH there is (almost) never an open HTTP session when
pause is hit. So how does this lead to pausing for (say) 30min is okay
but pausing for 4 hours is not? Why doesn't LMS just ask for the chunk
it was on again when the stream is resumed, regardless of the
intervening time?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

[mrmichaelwright]

So, from a complete novice point of view, is it possible for lms to
buffer during trans-coding when there is an sb3 player in the player
group?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

[bpa]

mrmichaelwright wrote: 
> Ok so I'm back :D
> 
> I've been testing both my duet and boom with the only 320 kbps aac
> stream I can find (Radio Paradise http://37.130.228.60:8014)
> 
> Both work fine, no re-buffering or pauses.  It is trans-coded by the
> server (320kbps CBR (Converted to 705kbps FLAC))
> 
> If i switch to a BBC DASH stream, the pauses and re-buffering are back,
> also trans-coded to FLAC.
> 
> This is NOT the case on my SB Touch or Radio players.
> 
> This made me take a look at the performance of my server during
> trans-coding.  The re-buffering appears to appear along with spikes in
> CPU activity, these spikes are just after the stream re-starts and show
> as about 25-50% CPU usage.  It could be that the spikes are the cause of
> or a result of the pauses (i'm aware the timing on Windows Resource
> Monitor won't be accurate enough to say which is the case), i think it
> more likely that they are as a result of the stream re-starting as LMS
> seems not to glitch during a 100% CPU spike from other system services.
> 
> Bare in mind that at least 50% of my library is ALAC and the server
> trans-codes this flawlessly at higher bitrates and copes with doing this
> for several players streaming different local content.
> 
> If I switch back to the Radio Paradise stream I get a perfectly flat
> constant CPU usage during transcription.  If i switch to one of my SB
> Touch players and a BBC DASH stream the CPU usage is again flat.
> 
> I don't know if any of this is relevant but taking into account what has
> been said above it does seem that something either LMS or BBC side is
> making BBC DASH streams far more un-reliable than other similar bit-rate
> streams specifically on players running older type firmware (57/77)
> 
> The problem is definitely worse with Radio 4
> (dash://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/uk/dash_full/ak/bbc_radio_fourfm.mpd)
> than it is with Radio 6
> 
> And in case it is relevant I am on BT infinity with a connection that
> consistently tests at 70+ Mbps with 30ms pings and in a low-traffic
> rural area (thankyou Digital Scotland :-) )


I think the much larger internal buffer of Radio and Touch means delays
which happen during BBCiPLayer playback have less effect than with SB3
player which have a smaller buffer.

My test with DASH reference player compared to BBCiPlayer was
interesting.  Both stream played OK no errors all day long from about
9:30am until 4.00pm then the BBCiplayer stream started getting errors
and long packet delays while there was only one small hiccough on the
DASH reference player.  Since 4:00pm there have been more and more
bursts of errors on BBCiPlayer.  So time of day is one part fo the issue
whether it is a BBC, CDN or my ISP - I can't tell.
Also there is probably some issue with LMS and how it process http GETs
(probably DNS part) that is different to the Chrome and this needs to be
checked.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

[bpa]

BobSammers wrote: 
> I'm not sure I'm necessarily following (why does pausing a small file
> make the HTTP connection close when pausing a large one doesn't? Or is
> it just that the small file finishes downloading and it pauses between
> files? But then, isn't it a new HTTP connection for a new file anyway,
> regardless of the time between?). I'm not sure my understanding is
> necessary though!

With chunked http most of the time there is no http connection open
since each 6 secs file takes about 250msec to download and so one
connection is only normally open for 250msec at time about once every 6
secs.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayerExtra does not play when BASH isenabled

[bpa]

BobSammers wrote: 
> Thank you, I'll have a look at how this works.
> 
> What will happen to my customised menus when the plugins are updated?

They'll be overwritten. It is possible the custom menu.opml  will need
to be udpated as well.  What you should do is create your custom
menu.opml file in a normal user directory and use a "file://" with the
Setting replacement menu.opml facility to copy the file to the plugin
directory.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayerExtra does not play when BASH isenabled

[BobSammers]

bpa wrote: 
> Yes - you need to merge menu item from the BBCiPlayerExtra file
> default.opml with the menu items you want from BBCiPlayer and create a
> new menu.opml file for BBCiPlayer.
Thank you, I'll have a look at how this works.

What will happen to my customised menus when the plugins are updated?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

[BobSammers]

bpa wrote: 
> Normal file or live http stream are a single GET and a stream of a
> largne number bytes (e.g. at least 3 minutes) . When stream as paused
> LMS get http connection open and temporarily stopped reading. DASH is
> chunked http with many 6 secs fragments so it is like playing many many
> small files gapless and when you pause the stream will be HTTP
> connection is usually closed so LMS support for pause doesn't work.
I'm not sure I'm necessarily following (why does pausing a small file
make the HTTP connection close when pausing a large one doesn't? Or is
it just that the small file finishes downloading and it pauses between
files? But then, isn't it a new HTTP connection for a new file anyway,
regardless of the time between?). I'm not sure my understanding is
necessary though!

bpa wrote: 
> This issue was only been reported to me about 1-2 months ago.   I have
> been looking into it as well as rebuffering and possible setting for CDN
> preference but making time has been a bit difficult.
More than happy to hear you're aware of this and are thinking about
possible solutions. Please let me know if I can test anything in due
course.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 48kbps CBR, AAC streams not working

[Staudie]

> The stream has an unusual format 32kHz 2ch floatle
> Can the "faulty" system play 32kHz ?

I think you found the issue The HiFiberry Amp+ specs are 44.1kHz and
48kHz sample rates. Thanks



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

[mrmichaelwright]

Ok so I'm back :D

I've been testing both my duet and boom with the only 320 kbps aac
stream I can find (Radio Paradise http://37.130.228.60:8014)

Both work fine, no re-buffering or pauses.  It is trans-coded by the
server (320kbps CBR (Converted to 705kbps FLAC))

If i switch to a BBC DASH stream, the pauses and re-buffering are back,
also trans-coded to FLAC.

This is NOT the case on my SB Touch or Radio players.

This made me take a look at the performance of my server during
trans-coding.  The re-buffering appears to appear along with spikes in
CPU activity, these spikes are just after the stream re-starts and show
as about 25-50% CPU usage.  It could be that the spikes are the cause of
or a result of the pauses (i'm aware the timing on Windows Resource
Monitor won't be accurate enough to say which is the case), i think it
more likely that they are as a result of the stream re-starting as LMS
seems not to glitch during a 100% CPU spike from other system services.

Bare in mind that at least 50% of my library is ALAC and the server
trans-codes this flawlessly at higher bitrates and copes with doing this
for several players streaming different local content.

If I switch back to the Radio Paradise stream I get a perfectly flat
constant CPU usage during transcription.  If i switch to one of my SB
Touch players and a BBC DASH stream the CPU usage is again flat.

I don't know if any of this is relevant but taking into account what has
been said above it does seem that something either LMS or BBC side is
making BBC DASH streams far more un-reliable than other similar bit-rate
streams specifically on players running older type firmware (57/77)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Annouce: Squeeze Control is now available as a UWP app for Windows 10.

[Wigster]

wt0 wrote: 
> 
> 
> Phones could have used the browser interface too, yet people still
> bought the app. The reasons for buying it for a laptop would be similar,
> just a little less so.
> 
> Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

I've bought it for my desktop exactly because it's just faster to have
it open then to open a browser.





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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 48kbps CBR, AAC streams not working

[bpa]

The stream has an unusual format  32kHz 2ch floatle
Can the "faulty" system play 32kHz ?

edit:

You should turn on Squeezelite logging and it should give more details
on why it fails.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 48kbps CBR, AAC streams not working

[Staudie]

Thanks for the reply... I tried it but it did not work. Looking at the
command line option listed I saw "-R -u [params]" so I tried "-R -u E"
but that didnt work either. here is my audioplayer config

 AUDIOPLAYER CONFIG 
### Configuration of Audioplayers
SQUEEZELITE_PARAMETER=-o sysdefault:CARD=sndrpihifiberry -a 80:4:: -R -u
E
SQUEEZESLAVE_PARAMETER=-n plugequal
SHAIRPORT_PARAMETER=-d default:CARD=sndrpihifiberry
USE_USB_DAC=0
USE_EQUALIZER=0
SYSTEM_USER=pi
YMPD_PARAMETER=--webport 8081


~Staudie



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] 48kbps CBR, AAC streams not working

[ralphy]

Try adding *-u E* to the squeezelite command line.

Squeezelite will then only resample when the output device doesn't
support the sample rate of the stream.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: WaveInput for Linux

[ant!]

I got it running!

After contacting again the Daphile developer, he answered the
following:

> You might be right. Plugins are not run as root but as user named "user"
> and 
> that does not belong to audio group.
> 
> You can fix this in beta version by running following command:
> usermod -a -G audio user
> 
> Let me know if it help and I could fix this in future versions.

I did this, and now it runs nicely.
Thanks everybody!



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[SlimDevices: Plugins] 48kbps CBR, AAC streams not working

[Staudie]

I have two Max2Play units. The first is an older RP2 with a Wolfson
audio card running M2P with Squeezeplug. The new unit is a RP3 with a
Hifiberry Amp+ running standard M2P with hifiberry. For some reason this
newer unit will not play 48kbps CBR, AAC streams. I've read on the
Hifiberry forums that the issue is with the player. I'm using the built
in squeezelite and have tried to update it and the packages. Any ideas?

Here is link to the stream:
http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s26861=aac,ogg,mp3,wmpro,wma,wmvoice=16=229f73268bcc3337a999c57a3febcc77

Thanks,
~Staudie



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayerExtra does not play when BASH isenabled

[bpa]

BobSammers wrote: 
> Your points about a large plugin and the fact that the unsupported
> streams that Extra uses make it more delicate are obviously valid and
> sufficient, but for me with both plugins, I think the menus are more
> complicated as they are now, especially with some overlap between
> functionality (schedules, for example).
> 
> For me, the ideal would be a single iPlayer top level (so I don't have
> to think ahead of time about which plugin has what I want) followed by a
> choice of Listen Live, Schedules and Categories (or these could even be
> 3 top level menus with an iPlayer prefix). What appears would be
> governed by whether Extra was installed, but the menu tree would be
> unified. Extra subtrees could be identified with some short text or a
> logo change.
> 
Every user have a different requirement and so best approach is to
customise the menu yourself.

> I'm not saying this is definitely a good idea, but it seems more
> intuitive to me. Can I do any of this by customising menu.opml?
Yes - you need to merge menu item from the BBCiPlayerExtra file
default.opml with the menu items you want from BBCiPlayer  and create a
new menu.opml file for BBCiPlayer.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

[bpa]

BobSammers wrote: 
> I'm (fortunately) not seeing the buffering problems (and TheLastman, I'm
> on PlusNet fibre and it's worked flawlessly for iPlayer and everything
> else since I got it a few years ago).

My feeling (and it is only a feeling as I can get evidence) is that the
rebuffering problems have a "local" element.  The BBC streams are
delivered by CDNS (Content Delivery Networks) Akamai, Limelight, Level 3
and ATOS but I have only seen URLs for Akamai and Limelight in the
BBCIplayer streams.  Although these CDNs have load balancing there seem
to be some regional division and also how CDNs are interconnected with
ISPs such as PlusNet can affect performance.

In addition there seems to be a "maintenance" issues as well - I can
play stream for hours with no problems and then burst of problems (i.e.
very slow packets) often very late at night or at weekends.

I am currently running test to see if there is an implementation issue. 
On the same server with same network connection, I am running LMS with
BBCIPlayer 1.4.8 (with cache bug fixed) and comparing against the DASH
reference player
(http://dashif.org/reference/players/javascript/v2.3.0/samples/dash-if-reference-player/index.html)
in Chrome.  Playing same stream (e.g.
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/nonuk/dash_low/ak/bbc_radio_three.mpd
) on BBCiPLayer and a Chrome Browse with DASH player (using developer
tools for network packet analysis) allows me to compare packet delays.  
I can also compare perfromance of CDNs.

>  I do experience a problem that I've always assumed is just one of those
> things, but it seems worth raising it in case it's down to a
> misconfiguration or something else fixable. If I pause a listen again
> stream (definitely on Extra, not sure about iPlayer), it's okay for a
> few minutes, maybe a few hours and I can un-pause later and continue
> from where I left off. Several hours later and almost certainly by the
> next day, if I try to resume a paused programme the playback fails and I
> have to go back through the menus to start playing again from the
> beginning, losing my place.
> 
> Is this normal? I've assumed it's perhaps a token issued by the BBC for
> my stream that is expiring, but I'm just speculating.
Normal file or live http stream are a single GET and a stream of a
largne number bytes (e.g. at least 3 minutes) . When stream as paused
LMS get http connection open and temporarily stopped reading. DASH is
chunked http with many 6 secs fragments so it is like playing many many
small files gapless and when you pause the stream will be HTTP
connection is usually closed so LMS support for pause doesn't work. This
issue was only been reported to me about 1-2 months ago.   I have been
looking into it as well as rebuffering and possible setting for CDN
preference but making time has been a bit difficult.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

[drmatt]

I find that enabling powersave solved that problem.. :)





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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: New versions of erlands plugins

[bertieb]

PasTim wrote: 
> I use foobar2000 a lot on linux, running under wine. I know some Wind0ze
> stuff doesn't run that well, but foobar2000 is very stable, giving me no
> problems at all.

Fair enough, I may try it out again! I gave it a try a long long time
ago and wasn't terribly happy with a couple of aspects of it IIRC, but
this is 2016 and it's probably worth revisiting.

Cheers!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version

[BobSammers]

I'm (fortunately) not seeing the buffering problems (and TheLastman, I'm
on PlusNet fibre and it's worked flawlessly for iPlayer and everything
else since I got it a few years ago).

I do experience a problem that I've always assumed is just one of those
things, but it seems worth raising it in case it's down to a
misconfiguration or something else fixable. If I pause a listen again
stream (definitely on Extra, not sure about iPlayer), it's okay for a
few minutes, maybe a few hours and I can un-pause later and continue
from where I left off. Several hours later and almost certainly by the
next day, if I try to resume a paused programme the playback fails and I
have to go back through the menus to start playing again from the
beginning, losing my place.

Is this normal? I've assumed it's perhaps a token issued by the BBC for
my stream that is expiring, but I'm just speculating.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayerExtra does not play when BASH isenabled

[BobSammers]

bpa wrote: 
> No.
> 
> 1.  Extra uses unsupported BBC stream which change far more often than
> official BBCiPLayer plugin so more updates would be forced on users who
> dont want or use the Extra features. If BBC would to change web stuff,
> the BBciPlayer will all still work whereas the BBCiplayerExtra will stop
> working - no confusion.
> 2.  Combined plugin will add lots more menus make a really messy UI - as
> it stands some users want fewer menu - which is why menu.opml is now
> customisable.  
> 3.  Would make a huge plugin hard to manage and maintain. Currently
> issue reported from users are clearly separate.
Your points about a large plugin and the fact that the unsupported
streams that Extra uses make it more delicate are obviously valid and
sufficient, but for me with both plugins, I think the menus are more
complicated as they are now, especially with some overlap between
functionality (schedules, for example).

For me, the ideal would be a single iPlayer top level (so I don't have
to think ahead of time about which plugin has what I want) followed by a
choice of Listen Live, Schedules and Categories (or these could even be
3 top level menus with an iPlayer prefix). What appears would be
governed by whether Extra was installed, but the menu tree would be
unified. Extra subtrees could be identified with some short text or a
logo change.

I'm not saying this is definitely a good idea, but it seems more
intuitive to me. Can I do any of this by customising menu.opml?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [HOW TO] Squeezelite player on Windows 8 step by step

[gaustabl]

dbinfl wrote: 
> ...or at least in my testing the past few days it has not
> I have a habit of sorting out new stuff on VMs before i install /
> configure it on my primary PC, and run Hyper-V on Windows 10 for this
> purpose.. This is a very reliable process and I can't recall not being
> able to make something work on a VM. BUT... I spent a couple of days
> trying to get Squeezelite running as a service using NSSM and could not
> get it to work.
> VMs I tried:
> Windows 10 64-bit
> Windows 7 64-bit
> Windows 8 32-bit
> Things I tried:
> - unblock the executable and all DLLs 
> - various compatibility modes for the exe
> - various command options in NSSM (different than what was recommended)
> 
> In every case the service would start and go immediately to a paused
> state. Turned on debug logging for Squeezlite and redirected to a file
> and found that on startup the log output was:
> 
> squeezelite.exe -o 2 -n SL_Mockingbird -s 192.168.0.15 -d all=debug -f
> c:\squeezelite\debug.txt 
> [14:19:03.943] stream_init:290 init stream
> [14:19:03.943] stream_init:291 streambuf size: 2097152
> [14:19:03.943] output_init_pa:393 init output
> [14:19:03.943] output_init_pa:405 requested latency: 0
> [14:19:03.943] output_init_common:342 outputbuf size: 3528000
> 
> ...and stopped there. Log output for a working interactive desktop
> instance was much more complete.
> 
> Anyway, this evening I finally gave it a go on my physical W10 64-bit
> machine. Installed as a service and started up fine on the first
> attempt. Go figure. 
> 
> ~dbinfl~

Hello.
I have installed windows 10 on a mac mini (bootcamp partion), and lms
server and Local player is working. Problem is that the volume control
is not controling the volume of the soundcard, just the "soft" volume of
the player, eg. if the soundcard volume is low, i only  get low volume
from the player even at max volume.
Is there a way to get the players volume control to change the output
volume from the soundcard ?

Best regards, and thanks for any help !
Lars



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: ShairTunes2 plugin - Airtunes on your LMS

[philippe_44]

Simon_rb wrote: 
> Philippe_44.. Have you looked at the new Amazon Echo things? They look
> pretty good. I currently control everything via Domoticz and Homebridge.
> My LMS is controlled using iPeng. The Amazon echo would be handy if you
> just want some quick information. They also allow you to play music to
> bluetooth players. Now if I got one of these Echos it would be in my
> living room and so is my Raspberry Pi 3. Then realised the only thing
> missing at the moment is bluetooth connectivity. 
> 
> Would it be possible to modify one of your plugins to use the bluetooth
> on the pi 3 and then expose all the players as bluetooth players like
> you do with the shairtunes2 plugin and it would work in the same way?
> Just curious really as thats the only connection that is missing from
> these old squeezebox thanks to your plugins :)
> 
> I'll leave it with you, thanks :D

I have an echo and I thought about doing an integration but I'm not
using it enough so that it makes sense for me and a rule is that you
have to use what you develop for yourself first. Re Bluetooth, to do a
good integration, this would be a lot of work and configuration as you
need more than one bridge for more than one BT speaker (range and
probably streaming possibility).  Then I would have the same problem as
above, i.e. I'm not using a lot BT speakers - and my plate is really
full currently



LMS 7.7.5 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1,
PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne,
JRiver 21, Chromecast Audio, Chromecast v1, Pi B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+,
Odroid-C1, Cubie2

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