Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
mherger wrote: > > Yes, this one is not due to new version but itâs Sonos that claims > to be > > compatible with ogg/vorbis but every time Iâve thrown such format > to > > these, they refused to play. So go the the pluginâs settings but > select > > the sonos speakers and in the codec line type « -ogg » so that ogg > is > > removed from the supported codecs. > > Or you disable SPT -> OGG streaming in Settings/Advanced/File Formats. thanks Philippe and Michael - i uninstalled Spotty about a year ago (but recently reactivated Spotify Premium) and i had forgotten that the Spotty-OGG setting had to be changed in LMS File Formats. Working now :cool: Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
Hi Philippe - i would prefer to stick to "non-destructive testing" ;) Just noting again that Spotty/Spotify do not seem to be working through UPnPBridge and Sonos -this is the case for both Bridge versions .10 and .11. I tried starting a Spotify album a couple of times with Sonos Arc/surrounds as the player and nothing happened, but Spotty/Spotify would play to a "real" squeezebox device, and would also play via the Bridge to a Naim QB2. Spotty version is 4.8.4 and LMS version is 8.3.0. This is of course with default settings in the bridge - is there a settings change that would be likely to make Sonos players work? Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
Here is the 2.1.12.11 log with same mp3 tracks. Seemingly normal volume behaviour this time - i tried increasing and decreasing the volume several times in the first 2 tracks in 5% increments in LMS/Material Skin, and the actual volume was consistent with those control changes. I stopped it in track 3. I had the Sonos app open on another device and it was interesting to note that each time when i would click a 5% up or down change in LMS, the volume slider in the Sonos app would leap to about 75% of full then snap back - ie like the app was still getting an errant volume signal, even though the actual volume was staying normal. +---+ |Filename: upnpbridge log 2.1.12.11 mp3.txt | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39575| +---+ Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
philippe_44 wrote: > The problem is the volume of slaves is uninitialized and a 32 bits > integer of -1 is used then. This -1 is converted to a 8 bits unsigned > integer (255) per the trace hence what you experienced. I did a > line-by-line comparison with version .5 and could not see anything that > would explain why this usage of -1 was not a problem before, unless > either the volume of the slave was acquired (I don't think it was) or > there was another bug that was hiding this one, but reading the code I > can't find it I can't say this with certainty, but it is possible that my use of your version 2.1.12.6 (that first produced the volume issues), could have been the version of the Bridge first used after the Sonos 14.20.1 firmware update was installed - in case that provides any clues. Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
philippe_44 wrote: > So I was able to find out 2 Sonos devices and group them for some tests. > I still don't get how it did not hit you in the past, but can you test > 2.1.12.11? Yes i will try .11 later today - what is the issue you are seeing, and why do think i should have experienced it earlier with the Sonos group? The problematic volume behaviour started with Bridge version 2.1.12.6 Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
Hi Philippe - i have taken another log, attached. Same mp3 tracks but the volume behaviour seemed normal this time, UNTIL i thought i would try clicking the volume 5% higher in Material skin near the end of track 1 - instead of going from 22 to 27% volume went to infinity - eggnog flying, dogs hitting the ceiling, wife yelling, the whole disaster :cool: After manually turning it back down and restarting my heart, volume behaviour continued normally. I stopped play in track 4. Also note that after the mp3 tracks, i tried playing Spotty/Spotify, which does not seem to be working through UPnPBridge and Sonos. I tried started a Spotify album a couple of times and nothing happened. An earlier trial showed that Spotty/Spotify would play to a "real" squeezebox device, and would also play via the Bridge to a Naim QB2, but not to Sonos. Spotty version is 4.8.4 and LMS version is 8.3.0 +---+ |Filename: upnpbridge log 2.1.12.10 number 2.txt| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39571| +---+ Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
Spacegrass wrote: > Hi Philippe I attach a log from 2.1.12.10 trial (Win 10 i7 laptop - > all UpNP Bridge settings at default other than binary set to static.) > Same mp3 tracks as the last few logs - no skips, but continuing > LMS/Sonos volume problems. In the first track, the 5% increment in LMS > Material skin changed the actual volume a lot more than 5%. It seemed > like the volume was increasing and decreasing on its own in track 1, > though the LMS volume setting stayed the same. Then nearly at the end of > track 2, the sound went silent while the volume slider stayed at 15% and > the track kept playing - sound would come back on if changed to 20%, go > silent if reduced to 15%, then more fluctuations in track 3 - this > behaviour should be noticeable in the log at the end of track 2 and > beginning of track 3. I stopped it in track 3. No eggnog was harmed > in this testing:) edit: here is the log +---+ |Filename: upnpbridge log 2.1.12.10 mp3 sound issues.txt| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39570| +---+ Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
Hi Philippe I attach a log from 2.1.12.10 trial (Win 10 i7 laptop - all UpNP Bridge settings at default other than binary set to static.) Same mp3 tracks as the last few logs - no skips, but continuing LMS/Sonos volume problems. In the first track, the 5% increment in LMS Material skin changed the actual volume a lot more than 5%. It seemed like the volume was increasing and decreasing on its own in track 1, though the LMS volume setting stayed the same. Then nearly at the end of track 2, the sound went silent while the volume slider stayed at 15% and the track kept playing - sound would come back on if changed to 20%, go silent if reduced to 15%, then more fluctuations in track 3 - this behaviour should be noticeable in the log at the end of track 2 and beginning of track 3. I stopped it in track 3. No eggnog was harmed in this testing:) Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
Hi Philippe I attach a log from 2.1.12.6 trial (Win 10 i7 laptop - all UpNP Bridge settings at default other than binary set to static.) Same mp3 tracks as the last few logs - no skips, but some unruly LMS/Sonos volume behaviour in the first track - it started super loud, and the 5% increments in LMS Material skin seemed to change the actual volume about 50%. It seemed like the volume was increasing and decreasing on its own in track 1, though the LMS volume setting stayed the same. Then nearly at the end of track 1, the volume slider changed on its own from 14% to 9% and the volume went to zero - ie at 14% sound was almost painfully loud, and at 9% it was silent. Volume behaviour seemed more normal in tracks 2 and 3 (though still louder than usual for the LMS volume setting) and i stopped it in track 4. This is a hazard at this time of year - unexpectedly loud volume could cause a guy to spill his eggnog ;) +---+ |Filename: upnpbridge log 2.1.12.6 mp3 volume issue.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39543| +---+ Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
Hi Philippe - as promised, the green dot of 2.1.12.2 appeared today - and i am pleased to report that you have narrowly avoided myself and @SamY nicknaming you "Skippy" ;) The new version played the same mp3 tracks as yesterday - no skips this time in the first 6 tracks! I stopped it in track 7. (Win 10 i7 laptop - all UpNP Bridge settings at default other than binary set to static.) Good work - hope Santa brings you a new Squeezebox for Christmas! +---+ |Filename: upnpbridge log 2.1.12.2 mp3.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39484| +---+ Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
Hi Philippe fwiw, I attach a log from 2.1.12.1 (Win 10 i7 laptop - all UpNP Bridge settings at default other than binary set to static.) Different mp3 tracks than before - first track played through, 2nd and 3rd track skipped, 4th track played through, stopped it in track 5. I am happy to keep testing your dev version of the UPnP Bridge - the fact is i had more or less the same skipping behaviour with version 1.82.2 so i might as well live in the present ;). I realize it might be awhile before you issue an updated dev version of UPnP Bridge - if i have the dev repository versions loaded in my plug-in list in LMS, and auto updates are "off", will i get notice of a dev version update through LMS ? (i.e. the green dot that appears in Material Skin when there is a plug-in update) +---+ |Filename: upnpbridge log 2.1.12.1 mp3.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39466| +---+ Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
Hi Philippe I have (belatedly) moved my reporting to this UPnP Bridge-specific thread. I did not get a chance to try 2.1.11 I attach a log from 2.1.12 (Win 10 i7 laptop - all UpNP Bridge settings at default other than binary set to static.) Log starts with same ol mp3 tracks played ok, but skips at about three quarters through track 3, and also track 4, and I stopped it in track 5. (just like several previous versions.) Next in the log is a flac album (Star 69) which appeared to play with no issues through 6 tracks and I stopped it in track 7. The next entry in the log is Radio Paradise playing in flac mode for about 10 minutes also no problems. +---+ |Filename: upnpbridge log 2.1.12 mp3 flac RP.zip| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39408| +---+ Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AirPlay, Chromecast and UPnP bridges update
Hi Philippe - here is the log from an attempt at playing the same mp3 tracks with 2.1.10 (Win 10 i7 laptop - all UpNP Bridge settings at default other than binary set to static.) This version was not the fix - the tracks would start playing but there was weird distortion in each track partway through, and each track skipped to the next track without playing even half the song. I stopped the madness in track 5 ;) I don't pretend to know what the typical musical content of the universe of UpNPBridge owners is, but if you think mp3 content is not a priority for most people, i would not be offended if you focus your valuable dev efforts on other aspects - the vast majority of my listening is streaming services anyway, with the old mp3 and flac files on my laptop just being an occasional diversion. I appreciate all your efforts to date! +---+ |Filename: upnpbridge log 11 mp3 2.1.10.zip| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39400| +---+ Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AirPlay, Chromecast and UPnP bridges update
philippe_44 wrote: > Thanks and well... I hope I'll be able to find a proper middle ground. > I've moved the throttling system where I should have put it in the first > place. Could you try 2.1.10 and try bit this time don't set log output > to sdebug, I don't need that anymore. > > I realize there is fatigue on both ends :) Hi Philippe - just confirming what your words "and try bit this time" were intended to mean - is that a setting, or some kind of typo? Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AirPlay, Chromecast and UPnP bridges update
here is the log of playing the same mp3 tracks again with UpNP Bridge 2.1.8 on Win 10 i7 laptop - same skips in tracks 3 and 4 as with 2.1.6. I stopped it in track 5 (note log starts at 08:30ish but tracks weren't started until 10:06) MS C++ redistributable is installed. +---+ |Filename: upnpbridge log 10 2.1.8 mp3.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39387| +---+ Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AirPlay, Chromecast and UPnP bridges update
Good Mornings all - installed 2.1.8 via LMS with no problems on Win 10 i7 laptop, LMS 8.3. I reported yesterday that the installation of the MS C++ redistributable after using 2.1.6 caused my UPnP players to disappear from LMS. They also did not appear this morning after starting up the laptop and installing 2.1.8 - but upon checking the Bridge settings, i noted the Bridge was turned off - (i.e. "Running" box unchecked) That was unusual - it is always running when i open its settings (which i have done a lot lately!) When i turned the Bridge on, the UPnP players reappeared in LMS. After that, i tried uninstalling and reinstalling the MS C++ redistributable app to see if it would make the players disappear again, but my UPnP players continued to show up in LMS. Will give the (now dreaded) Boss Hog test tracks another spin in a little while. Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AirPlay, Chromecast and UPnP bridges update
Hi Philippe - me again. I installed 2.1.6 via LMS and gave the same mp3 tracks as in previous logs a spin - but i did NOT first download the microsoft C++ update you recommended in the settings for Windows users - the result is the attached log, with a return to the skips toward the end of track 3 and of track 4, and i stopped it in track 5. So then i downloaded the microsoft distributable thingey, restarted, and ... neither of my two UPnP players would show up in LMS after that, so i could not test the result. Suggestions? What doesn't kill us, makes us stronger, right? ;) +---+ |Filename: upnpbridge log 9 mp3 2.1.6 skip.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39382| +---+ Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AirPlay, Chromecast and UPnP bridges update
Hi Philippe as if you didnt have enough to worry about already, now you have been set upon by an angry zombie! :-) Here is the log for the same mp3 tracks played after install of UPnPBridge 2.1.4 through LMS, with all other settings in the Bridge unchanged. (Win 10 i7 laptop) The whole album played through without skips though I thought there was a slight pause at the end of each track that wasnt there before? Also, when I stopped the Bridge this morning to clear the log (and after updating to 2.1.4) then restarted, my real Squeezebox players had disappeared from the player list in LMS only my 2 UPnP players were showing. That could be caused by something else, but it did seem like it happened with stopping and restarting the Bridge. I was able to reconnect the SB Radio to LMS manually by asking it connect to the LMS library, but the Duet seems to be having a more serious problem not sure what has happened to it. (flashing red indicator light it might need a factory reset). +---+ |Filename: upnpbridge log 7 mp3 2.1.4.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39373| +---+ Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AirPlay, Chromecast and UPnP bridges update
philippe_44 wrote: > Can you try 2.1.3 and let me know if this still works? Especially, I'd > like to get a log to see if the stream moderating option I've added > works. You are a dev devil Philippe - the versions are coming too fast for me - here is a log of the same mp3 album playing with no skips on version 2.1.2, but LMS already is offering me the 2.1.4 update, so i did not try 2.1.3 +---+ |Filename: upnpbridge log 6 2.1.2.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39369| +---+ Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AirPlay, Chromecast and UPnP bridges update
Hi Philippe - before i was able try playing the same tracks with antivirus off, i noticed you pushed out an update of UPnPBridge (2.1.1) through LMS. I installed that with no issues (Win 10 i7 laptop) and ... (drumroll) the whole Boss Hog album played without any skips, with Bitdefender antivirus/firewall still on! I attach a log for your interest - the extra debug command was still in place. Was there a Eureka moment to solve the skip issue in the 2.1.1 update? +---+ |Filename: upnpbridge log 5 mp3 debug.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39353| +---+ Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AirPlay, Chromecast and UPnP bridges update
philippe_44 wrote: > Yes, indeed for the log. Re tracks, you can also reach me at philippe_44 > at outlook dot com Hi Philippe - here is the further log. I will send you a link to the mp3 files later today. +---+ |Filename: upnpbridge log 4 dbug.zip| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39334| +---+ Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AirPlay, Chromecast and UPnP bridges update
philippe_44 wrote: > Excellent - Is there a way you could share these tracks with me (dropbox > or anything that would not make them public) > > Can you also try to not set "additional debugging" but instead add in > the "extra command line" the following "-d stream=sdebug -d > output=sdebug". It will be extra verbose but that might really help me > understanding what's going on Hi Philippe - yes i assume i could send you the tracks - via iCloud? i haven't used it for file sharing before but i assume it would work. How do i pm you in this forum? And re the extra command line request, i assume you are asking for a log of playing the same tracks with that one change? Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AirPlay, Chromecast and UPnP bridges update
philippe_44 wrote: > BTW, the fact that flac works indicates that the problem is 99% on my > side and is due to a ringbuffer issue that only happens with a very > particular file size. How often doe sthat happen if you use the same set > of files? Is it highly reproducible? Hi Philippe - yes it is reproducible - attached is a log of the same Boss Hog tracks with skip toward the end of track 3, and again in track 4 - i stopped it in track 5. The bitrate shown for those tracks 1, 2, 3 and 4 it is 199 VBR 44.1 kHz /216/217/213. +---+ |Filename: upnpbridge log 3 mp3.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39323| +---+ Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AirPlay, Chromecast and UPnP bridges update
philippe_44 wrote: > Thanks for the log. It's going to sound strange, but on every case it's > an error between LMS and the bridge, more precisely it's LMS that > disconnects with an "unknown cause" before everything has been sent. The > bridge signals that and LMS moves to next track. > > It seems that we received 5,243,095 bytes and that played for 185 sec > where the track should have lasted 237 sec. At that 185 sec time, the > UPnP player ran out of data and stopped, the bridge detected that and so > feedback that to LMS which moved to next netx track. > > Can you tell me the size of the file artist:Boss, Hog album:Whiteout, > title:Stereolight (and Nursery Rhyme)? > > PS: do you have other players (non UPnP) and have you notice that with > these? We'd need to investogate that wth @mherger but that log really > tells me (and that might very well be a Win10+ issue) that LMS *stalls* > the connection then *closes* it for no reason. Hi Phillipe - to answer your questions: 1) this track skipping only happens on UPnPBridge players, not on "real" Squeezebox devices (i have a Duet and two Radios). The album folder for "Whiteout" is 49.1 MB and track Stereolight is 6.39 MB and track Nursery Rhyme is 6.20 MB. Those are MP3 tracks. Curiously, after i posted my message, I played a flac album and had no skips (it was a different UPnP player - Sonos Arc instead of Naim QB2) I attach that log (8 tracks played normally, and i stopped it in track 9) We had a lengthy exchange about this skipping issue between Sept 17 and 20 2022 in the "Announce: UPnPBridge ..." thread, which would of course have occurred with prior versions of LMS and UPnPBridge - so maybe it is a similar issue? You suggested at that time increasing the buffer size in the bridge config file, which did seem to significantly lessen the skipping. Here is one of your posts from then about possible causes: "No, I really don't think so. The issue you are having might really be due to the antivirus being overly protective of sockets. I've read that some people had similar issue with the same antivirus/security suite. I don't know how you are familiar with that part of technology, but to communicate between the bridge and LMS, a channel must be opened using two sockets (IP address and port). There are many complications with sockets left open by programs on computers and although it should not be the case, there is a risk of exhaustion or security and various solution (not always great) have been developed to deal with these problem. The issue with the bridge is that when it opens a channel with LMS to grab the audio data, the transfer is not smooth due to the nature of a bridge and the numerous buffering involved (in the bridge and in the UPnP player). So typically, the 1st track is very quickly transferred, then the beginning of the second starts quickly as well and then... streaming might pause for a very long time (might even be almost the whole duration of the 1st track). So, for example, some on-line servers can't cope with that and assume the link is broken and systematically close it. What I'm wondering in your case is if a monitoring application of some sort could not force-close such sockets that have a burst of activity then *nothing* for minutes. It's not a good behavior, but... The test I'm asking you to do will ensure that no matter what (at least for mp3) the whole track is quickly gobbled by the LMS-to-Bridge side, regardless of what happen on the Bridge-to-UPnP side." +---+ |Filename: upnpbridge log 2 flac.zip| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39322| +---+ Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AirPlay, Chromecast and UPnP bridges update
Hi Phillipe - thanks for your continued work on these plug-ins. I got around to trying your new version of UPnP Bridge - version 2.0.7.3 on LMS 8.3.0, on a Win 10 laptop with i7 processor. I thought you might want another test result of the new plug-in, as i once again experienced the track skipping/truncation problem we talked about a few months ago with the old plug-in version. My settings for the new Bridge plug-in were completely default, with binary set to "static". The log begins with trying Radio Paradise then another internet radio station briefly (no problems), then an MP3 album. First 2 tracks played fine, advanced to 3rd track, 3rd track skipped to 4th track about 3/4 through, 4th track played then skipped to 5th track about 3/4 through. 5th track played through, and i stopped it after 6th track started. I understand if it is too early to try to troubleshoot individual minor issues like this - I can wait for future updates of the plug-in if you think that will resolve things. PS - as I am not a "github kinda guy", i had no idea how to try your new plug-in until i saw Paul Webster's post in another thread recently about there being an "other repository" field for pasting your link at the bottom of the plug-ins list in LMS. I learned something new! +---+ |Filename: upnpbridge log 1.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39310| +---+ Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
Spacegrass wrote: > Thanks, that's a "pro" tip - the logs in the web interface don't seem to > work with the "all" debugging turned on and the bigger buffer setting. I > have saved a .txt log from the Windows log file - buffer increased, > gapless set to "no", server address in the extra command line, debugging > set to "all" - first 2 tracks played with no skip/truncation - i stopped > the player after the third track started, BUT the forum interface says > it exceeds the attachment limit of 195Kb (it is 209 kb), so i could not > attach it. Suggestions? Hi Phillippe - Here is the zip file of the log referenced in the above quote. +---+ |Filename: upnpbridge6buffer.zip| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=38755| +---+ Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
philippe_44 wrote: > Best to get the logs is to grab the file directly, not the text in the > web interface. In Windows, it should be here > C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Logs Thanks, that's a "pro" tip - the logs in the web interface don't seem to work with the "all" debugging turned on and the bigger buffer setting. I have saved a .txt log from the Windows log file - buffer increased, gapless set to "no", server address in the extra command line, debugging set to "all" - first 2 tracks played with no skip/truncation - i stopped the player after the third track started, BUT the forum interface says it exceeds the attachment limit of 195Kb (it is 209 kb), so i could not attach it. Suggestions? Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
philippe_44 wrote: > Unfortunately this log is incomplete Yes i have saved a few more logs of subsequent album plays, and they all seem incomplete - the time stamp in the logs is only for 3 or 4 minutes when the album in fact played for its whole length. The good news at least, is that 3 different MP3 albums have played through with no skip/truncation. I will try to get the logging to record properly. Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
philippe_44 wrote: > No, I really don't think so. The issue you are having might really be > due to the antivirus being overly protective of sockets. I've read that > some people had similar issue with the same antivirus/security suite. I > don't know how you are familiar with that part of technology, but to > communicate between the bridge and LMS, a channel must be opened using > two sockets (IP address and port). There are many complications with > sockets left open by programs on computers and although it should not be > the case, there is a risk of exhaustion or security and various solution > (not always great) have been developed to deal with these problem. > > The issue with the bridge is that when it opens a channel with LMS to > grab the audio data, the transfer is not smooth due to the nature of a > bridge and the numerous buffering involved (in the bridge and in the > UPnP player). So typically, the 1st track is very quickly transferred, > then the beginning of the second starts quickly as well and then... > streaming might pause for a very long time (might even be almost the > whole duration of the 1st track). So, for example, some on-line servers > can't cope with that and assume the link is broken and systematically > close it. What I'm wondering in your case is if a monitoring application > of some sort could not force-close such sockets that have a burst of > activity then *nothing* for minutes. It's not a good behavior, but... > > The test I'm asking you to do will ensure that no matter what (at least > for mp3) the whole track is quickly gobbled by the LMS-to-Bridge side, > regardless of what happen on the Bridge-to-UPnP side. Thanks for that explanation Phillippe - the technical stuff is over my head, but i get the general concept. I edited the buffer value as you suggested, and in the first run-through, it was a success - first 4 tracks (same ones as in previous logs) played through with no truncation or skips - but the log info seemed odd because the track names did not show up - so i cleared the log and started the same album again - the log attached is from the second try with the same increased buffer value. There was a problem this time - first track Wildflower played through no problem; on the second track, Peace Dog, the song kept playing but the counter started skipping at 2:08, back to 2:00, up to 2:08, back to 2:00, etc. When the song completed, the track did not advance to track 3 - i advanced it manually, then stopped it in track 3 after 10 seconds. So the buffer size change has definitely altered the behaviour, but not consistently - any further thoughts on what is happening? Thanks again for your time on this! +---+ |Filename: upnpbridge-log6buffer.log| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=38750| +---+ Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
philippe_44 wrote: > It really looks like there is something closing sockets that are > considered idle for too long in your system. Can you edit the bridge > config file (the xml file, see in settings for its full path). You > *must* stop the bridge before editing it. Then you'll find a section > "common" like that > > Code: > > > > ... > 2048000 > ... > > > > > Replace the streambuf_size by something much larger, say just add one > 0 to make it 10x thanks Phillippe - i can try that, but i am wondering why i am having such an unusual problem on what is presumably a pretty standard LMS/UPnPBridge use case - i.e. Win10 laptop with current version of LMS, playing MP3 files? I don't know if this could be relevant, but i am opening the LMS interface (with Material Skin) in MS Edge browser via a bookmark (LMS runs on start-up of Win10, so it is already running when i click the bookmark). Is it possible it is a MS Edge issue? Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
philippe_44 wrote: > It's a good & clear log w/ explanations, thanks. So what happens clearly > is a failure of communication between LMS and the bridge, so only a part > of the audio is received (and thus forwarded to the UPnP player). The > UPnP side of the bridge is not where we should look at, it's clearly not > the issue here. It's a weird and extremely rare error to have the LMS to > Bridge audio stream fail (it's a simple HTTP connection). Is there any > chance that anything can be interfering on your Windows box with > connections (like a firewall and antivirus protection of any kind)? > > Can you try, in the "extra command line option" to add "-s 127.0.0.1" > (no "" of course) and see? Attached is log 5, with identical settings as last log 4, with extra command line option added. Player behavior was exactly the same as log 4 - track 1 played all the way through, track 2 skipped at 2:09, and i stopped it at start of track 3. i use Bitdefender "Total Security" on this PC if that is of any interest, but i am not getting any kind of indication from the antivirus/firewall that it is blocking this stream. +---+ |Filename: upnpbridge-log5commandline.log | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=38749| +---+ Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
philippe_44 wrote: > By how much are tracks truncated? If you play only one track, is it > truncated as well? If it is, can you play just that and set the log of > additional debugging to all (its in the settings). Clean the log file > before so that I have that only one log. in the first log sent yesterday with default settings, 4 tracks in a row were truncated, usually skipping to the next track about 2/3 or 3/4 of the way through. In logs 2 and 3, with "gapless" set to "force" and "no" respectively, in both cases 2 of 4 tracks played all the way through, and the other 2 skipped to the next track between about 2/3 and 3/4 through the track. The attached log 4, with gapless set to "no" and additional debugging set to "all", the first track "Wildflower" played all the way through and advanced to track 2 "Peace Dog", and then track 2 stopped and skipped to track 3 at 2:08 minutes on the counter - about 2/3 through. I stopped it after track 3 started. +---+ |Filename: upnpbridge-log4debug.log | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=38746| +---+ Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
philippe_44 wrote: > Try to disable "gapless" to start with. Hi Phillipe - to answer your previous question, there is no skipping/truncating of tracks when playing to the "real Squeezebox" devices in LMS - only through UPNpBridge. I tried your suggestion re gapless - there are 3 settings, "yes", "no", and "force", so i tried a run-through of the same tracks with "force" and then with setting to "no" gapless. Still experienced skipping/truncation to about the same extent in each case. A log of each is attached. Further suggestions? I appreciate you taking the time to look at this! +---+ |Filename: upnpbridge3No-log.log| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=38738| +---+ Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
philippe_44 wrote: > Do you have other players ? What I see from this log is that the session > between LMS and the bridge ends up before it should (not the session > between the bridge and the player) and that explains why. It looks more > like some kind of networking error or your PC closing the socket > prematurely. > > NB: to return to defaults, you have an erase or clean button next to the > config filename Thanks for your reply Phillipe. I understand the distinction you are making, but i don't now how i would identify or resolve the networking error or a premature socket closing. The LMS player environment is normally 2 squeezebox players (ie not UPNp) a Naim QB2, and sometimes a Sonos Roam. The UPNpBridge has no issues with a stream like Radio Paradise; and generally, i don't have network issues streaming Apple Music from an ipad via Airplay2 to the Naim QB2 or to the Sonos Roam. Any suggestions? Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
Hello Phillipe and all. I have used UPNpBridge for a few years, and have never been able to fully resolve the track skipping/truncating issue reported by various people here, and I am hoping you can make some suggestions based on a recent log. I have recently reinstalled LMS 8.2.1 on a Win 10 HP Spectre i7 laptop, and UPNpBridge is installed from the plugin list. I have tried to return the Bridge settings to close to default before taking this log. (i don't see a "restore default settings" option, and trying to delete Preference/cache files in the various ProgramData folders did not seem to reset the Bridge settings.) I have previously tried changing various settings in the Bridge, including trying Transcode in all of PCM, Flac and Mp3 modes, but still get the same track truncating as with passthrough, and as with any other settings i have tried. in the case of the current log playing MP3 files in my library, each of the first 4 tracks played part way through, then skipped to the next track before the end. I look forward to any suggestions for settings changes you may have. .log file attached. +---+ |Filename: upnpbridge-log.log.txt | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=38730| +---+ Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?
Thanks Garym. myoops.com ! Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115850 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Alternatives to spotify / spotty?
In case Julf did not already find this, you go on squeezebox.com to get the Tidal app. You need a squeezebox.com account, and Tidal is under "App Gallery". Re Spotify alternatives, and at the risk of angering the open-source gods, I note that if you have an Apple device you can stream Apple Music to your Squeezebox/LMS devices using Phillipe's Shairtunes plug-in. It is the same monthly price as Spotify, and it is lossless quality, similar to Tidal. Obviously, Apple Music does not "integrate" into LMS as Julf asked, but the Apple Music stream played through Shairtunes does display the album art and track info in LMS, and you can use the volume and pause, forward and back controls in LMS. Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115850 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
philippe_44 wrote: > I've released a new version (1.64.0) which prevent the "volume going to > zero" issue. It's LMS that does a software-based fade-out and fade-in of > volume when an IP3K player is paused (non Radio, Touch). Touch and IP3K > see their volume set to 0 still and this is not what we want for > UPnP/Chromecast. Version 1.64.0 does not set volume to zero on pause but > it does a ramp-up on resume. Thanks Phillippe - good to hear i wasn't imagining it! After reading your post (but before installing 1.64.0), i confirmed the Roam volume was up and making its chimes, i played a Spotty track on LMS via upnp to the Roam, paused it, closed LMS - volume was zeroed on the Roam. Installed 1.64.0, did the same procedure - volume remained up on the Roam. Ergo, it works! (at least based on one try). Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
Firstly, a big thanks to Phillippe for the Upnp bridge this is a brilliant plug-in that has greatly enhanced my use of LMS by allowing the orphans (a Naim QB2 and now a Sonos Roam) to join the LMS family. My minor issue (and it may or may not be a Upnp bridge issue) is that, while the Sonos Roam is working well with Upnp bridge after simply selecting the sonos profile in the common parameters dropdown , I have noticed that after using the Roam via Upnp bridge, the Roams physical volume is zeroed. That is, the Roam audible chimes that ordinarily are heard when holding down its power button are missing but reappear by pressing the increase volume button on the Roam and will continue to be heard until I use Upnp bridge/LMS again. Then the chime volume goes to zero again. To be clear, the line in volume for wireless or Bluetooth inputs to the Roam continue to work perfectly well at all times. So I am wondering if some setting/function in the Upnp bridge app is zeroing the onboard volume of the Roam for the purpose of controlling the Roam from LMS? And if so, can I modify the setting? This is not a big deal, given everything is otherwise working normally but given that the Roams power button has a bit of an uncertain feel to it, the audio chimes are helpful guideposts. LMS version 8.1.2 - 1624550702 is running on an i7 pc with Win 10. Upnp/DNLA bridge version 1.63.1. Thanks for any input. Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 3.x - Spotify Podcasts on your Squeezebox
yes, it's interesting that the nixda.ch link is regarded as a superhero of software cleanliness by everyone except Bitdefender. So i guess it is just a curiosity as to why Bitdefender is suddenly flagging it when they weren't before. Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 3.x - Spotify Podcasts on your Squeezebox
sydneyvj wrote: > Bitdefender Online threat prevention module is flagging the URL as > malicious > > We blocked this dangerous page for your protection: > http://downloads.nixda.ch/Spotty-3.1.3.zip > Accessed by: SQUEEZ~3.EXE > Dangerous pages attempt to install software that can harm the device, > gather personal information or operate without your consent. > > Never happened before :confused: I am also getting this message from Bitdefender for the latest Spotty and RP updates. A bit of internet archaeology about nixda.ch led me both to Michael's holiday snaps, and this post/reply by him from last April: "AVG Web Shield has notified me several times that it has aborted connection from SqueezeSvr.exe to downloads.nixda.ch for Spotty 2.7.6. Is this happening to anyone else? And is nixda.ch a genuine source for Spotty? If in doubt go to virustotal.com and paste the file's URL. This version gave me this: https://www.virustotal.com/#/url/817...3b4d/detection And yes, nixda.ch is my domain." Spacegrass's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68163 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111217 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
