Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
MDE wrote: There are obviously different philosophies here. Personally I think the Muso approach is the right one. No-one has their files tagged perfectly, and certainly most cannot be bothered. I have stayed out of this discussion, as I long ago recognised that no program will suit everyone when it comes to tagging and tag interpretation -- developers simply have to make a decision. That's because, despite the ID3 standard and the like, no standard has ever been universally adopted by all programs and devices. Personally, I prefer programs that make no guesses about my files -- if tags are blank, they're blank. Foobar2000 is one that works this way. The main reason I prefer this is that, although I take great care over my tags, I have developed a non-standard method of tagging over the years. Not because I wanted my own system, but because so many programs and (particularly) playback devices implemented a non-standard feature set. For example, although it's considered bad practice, I have always duplicated the Composer tag in the Artist tag (for classical music) -- because many portable playback devices default to showing the artist and refuse to show the composer. Another example: I recently tried out Musicbee (http://getmusicbee.com/), a PC music manager which seems to be highly regarded by many people. The result was confusion (for me). I have always left my Album Artist tags blank, because over the years many programs and devices have used the tag in unpredictable ways. Because my Album Artist tags were blank, MusicBee copied my Performer tags to the Album Artist tags in its library, and also duplicated those tags as Artist in its music browser. I had to create virtual tags to make sense of my music collection. So I quickly stopped using Musicbee, but the program obviously suits a lot of people who are happy for the program to guess at the tags. I do hope that Muso continues to make as few assumptions about tags as possible. But I understand jezbo's dilemma. jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: I'd agree with that. Of course there are remote desktop solutions (like Splashtop) which allow you to approximate this now - by running a server on the windows box and a client on your IOS/Android tablet, your windows box can be taken over by your tablet, so you can run muso within that. I don't have a tablet to try this, so I'm not sure how well muso as it stands now works with touch-screen devices - I imagine the remote desktop software itself interprets the touchscreen gestures. For what it's worth, over Christmas I tried using Muso on a 10 inch tablet using remote desktop software. It was quickly obvious that even a 10 inch screen is far too small to use Muso in this fashion -- there was a lot of zooming in and out. But I don't think it would be too difficult to re-design Muso for the tablet screen and still retain everything that makes Muso unique. jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: Should be yes, I'll make sure this is fixed by the time the panes solution is released, but due to the season this may not be for a week or so yet! EDIT: I can't repeat this though - how do you invoke the database view then go back to browing albums ? If you click on Browse Albums link this is a shortcut to the standard Gallery View rather than hierarchical so that may be why you are losing the levels. Standard way to close the db view is via the Apply or Cancel Changes links at the bottom. I will remove the Browse Albums link I think, and make it just a label - I retained it for the time being since historically this was the way to display the standard gallery view. Yes, you're right -- it's because I click on Browse Albums, which I suppose I expected would send me back to the last-used album view. If I just click Cancel Changes in the DB view, I return to the previously selected hierarchy. I'd suggest none of that is particularly intuitive though, so getting rid of the Browse Albums link would be a good idea. Also, at the moment, if you choose to use the Gallery or Cloud album view, and then return to Hierarchy, your previous hierarchy has disappeared and you have to start again. I can see why it works this way, as it is consistent with the Gallery and Cloud views -- you have to choose each time. The problem with that is that if you generally use, say, a four-deep hierarchy view, you have to re-select it each time you return to the Hierarchy from a different view. Maybe this issue will vanish if you choose to go with a Pane view, but if not, would it be possible to have a way of returning quickly to the last-used hierarchy view? Either in the hierarchy menu, or maybe as an option in the Preferences. I hope I'm not overloading you with suggestions. Have a good holiday. jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
ralphpnj wrote: Thank you so much for working so hard to make all these improvements a reality. And please take some time off to enjoy the holidays! We will all gladly wait an extra week or two for the final version of new MUSO to be released. Agreed, with particular emphasis on the bit about taking time off. jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: I went for the tree mechanism primarily as it doesn't take over too much screen real-estate. Your worries about real estate are understandable. Space will always be at a premium in an information-rich environment like Muso. If you can't see a way to run panes in the main panel, maybe you could consider running them vertically, where the hierarchy currently runs? Anyway, I've been playing with the beta a bit more, and I've had my first glitch. I asked Muso to import a custom tag, and the tag duly appeared in the hierarchy right-click menu. I immediaitely tried to build a new hierarchy using the custom tag. As I finished the hierarchy and went to browse it, Muso crashed with an Unhandled exception (I've appended the full error message below). I think this was a non-trivial crash, because Muso refused to launch again. No amount of killing processes or doing full reboots would bring Muso back. I uninstalled the beta, and went back to 1.4. Muso worked again. I installed the beta again, and it crashed during launch...so I've gone back to 1.4 for now. It looks like I need guidance in deleting some library/config files that are killing the beta before it launches. One other thing to mention. Each time the beta crashed, odd things happened on my internet connection: my music download manager (Adobe Air based) said there was no internet connection, my email client and RSS reader both refused to download images (but downloaded text), my email checker said there was no internet connection. But my browser worked just fine...I can't imagine this was Muso's fault. On the other hand, it happened both times Muso crashed (when I uninstalled the beta, reinstalled 1.4, and re-booted, all programs worked normally). Again, I can't see how there can be a link, but I mention it for the record. ** Exception Text ** System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object. at AlbumBrowser.BrowserForm.TranslateToNames(List`1 ids) at AlbumBrowser.BrowserForm.showAlbums(Nullable`1 forceGroup, Boolean regen, Boolean keepPage, Boolean resetIndexes) at AlbumBrowser.BrowserForm.linkBrowseHierarchical(List`1 defaultLevels, List`1 defaultValues) at AlbumBrowser.BrowserForm.mi_MouseUp(Object sender, MouseEventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleMouseUp(MouseEventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea) at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message m) at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.WndProc(Message m) at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.WndProc(Message m) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message m) at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam) jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: I think I am going to go the panes route along the lines of the above - it makes sense. I'll keep the right-click options as an advanced mechanism to fix a number of levels in one go, with the standard option being to specify/change each level via a selection-box at the top of each pane - but I'll have to make it 6 panes maximum I think. Excellent. I look forward to seeing it. I think six panes is more than enough. I don't think I've ever used more than five, and I do a lot of messing with my configuration. I installed the latest beta and that seems to be working well. Muso imported a custom tag, and I have used the custom tag successfully in the hierarchy. No more crashes so far. Looking good. jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
One thing I've just noticed with the latest beta: I set up a hierarchy. I then browse the database. I then go back to browsing the albums -- but the hierarchy has disappeared, and I have to set it up again. This is repeatable. Presumably the hierarchy should be persistent in this scenario, as it's generally persistent between sessions. jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: This is for those of you that were interested in custom tags and/or hierarchical viewing - I'd appreciate some help beta-testing the new functionality. As it is a BETA release there may be bugs, but I'll aim to address them quickly (if you need to, you will be able to revert back to the last stable release by uninstalling 1.5 then reinstalling 1.4.43 from the home page). That was quick. Bravo. And fundamentally, it functions as I had hoped. I'll play with it for a couple of days, and give more feedback if I come across any glitches. Initial thoughts: choosing hierarchy levels by repeated right-clicking is fine for geeks playing with betas, but I think you'd need a more user-friendly way of choosing levels once it's out of beta. I know too many people who have never used a right-click button... And if I'm being hyper-fussy, then I'd say that I don't find this hierarchy system as elegant as the 'panes' view available in some media players/browsers (first popularised by iTunes, I believe, and much copied). In case it's not clear what I mean, I've attached a screengrab of jRiver Media Center, which I have set up with a viewing hierarchy in the Panes view. More importantly, I think the panes view is also easier to grasp for non-geeks. But from my point of view, the system you have devised is very usable. 14095 jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: I can't seem to open your attachment to see what you mean by Panes view. Not sure what was wrong. I've edited the note, hopefully it's visible now. jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: Having a windows box as a server means I can leverage much of the existing code - it's feasible within a year's timescale. I suppose what I'm saying is that the Muso engine will continue to run on Windows, but I might add a new feature that lets you remote-control it via any web-enabled device. I don't think that's so bad as an enhancement. Agreed. I'd be happy to buy that app. I'd guess most households using LMS are likely to have a home server running 24/7. But I'd need the app on Android... I use Squeeze Commander on Android at the moment, and it's fine for what it is, but the Muso interface is far superior. Muso on a 10 inch tablet would be very nice indeed. jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: It would, I've often thought this myself (not that I have a tablet yet). Designing a web interface that would work well on that AND on a IOS/Android phone is a challenge though - the interfaces would probably have to be completely different. I may be talking complete nonsense here (I often do) but if I were you I'd consider coding a HD (tablet) version first and worry about the phones later. I don't think Squeeze Commander or Orange Squeeze (the other Android third-party LMS app) have tablet versions, they just scale up the phone version (like most Android apps). Muso is so information-rich that I think you would struggle to replicate the experience on a phone. But on a tablet, it would be wonderful. Given the rate at which tablet sales are rising, there might just be a market there. I have 7 and 10 inch tablets. I never use Squeeze Commander on my phone. jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: OK 1.4.42 released: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?81685-ANNOUNCE-muso-%28production%29p=728764viewfull=1#post728764 This introduces the ability to read custom tags from LMS into Muso, but it's only utilised by the search feature at present. Next I will look into building a flexible hierarchical query mechanism which can utilise all the standard attributes plus these new custom attributes (and possibly browse by folder structure) - so this should cover all bases. Thank you. jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo -- Thank you for considering this. From my point of view, the custom tags are actually optional. As I explained above, because many programs don't read custom tags, I have had to duplicate any important information in standard tags (e.g., my vital SUBGENRE tag is duplicated in my COMMENT tag). Anyone using custom tags can easily do the same thing. So if browsing in Muso by random custom tags makes life too complicated, then I wouldn't worry too much about it at this stage. I'd be perfectly happy if I could browse more flexibly using just standard tags, as listed at http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/SlimServerSupportedTags. And as I said before, I'd be equally happy if I could browse by system folders if that's easier. jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: Where do you store the sub-genre (instrumental/chamber/orchestral/vocal/etc) in the tags? Do you use genre for this or something else as sub-genre? I may have to be clever to allow drill-down by any attribute, but this would be a useful starting point. Then we can consider how best to drill-down on the information you require - do you normally target a composer first or want to browse by sub-genre then composer? If you play with the pivot viewer feature, which is only experimental admittedly, you can drill down by various attributes (not sure if the one you use for sub-genre is one of them) in any order - I could apply the same mechanism to the main browser area of muso. Or I could try to design a brand new drill down mechanism where you pick what you want to summarise first (eg. list of composers), then having picked one or more of those choose the attribute you'd like to drill into next (eg. sub-genre), all the time showing the albums which match the selection so far - this is basically what the pivotviewer does but I could design the UI to work in a different way. Picking up custom tags from all files may be tricky, since you'd have to configure what to look for in muso, and new columns in the muso database to put them in (a finite number or any would be more ideal). Are you using LMS? Can this handle custom tags via a plugin? Thank you for your reply and your interest. I'll try to answer as comprehensively as I can. A couple of things to bear in mind. As you have a large classical collection yourself, you're probably aware of this, but anyway: the concept of the 'album' (that is, the original CD) is fairly meaningless when ripping classical music CDs. What I mean by this is: if you rip the album 19 by Adele, then that's exactly what ends up in your digital collection -- a single album by Adele. But take the average classical CD, containing, say, Beethoven's 1st and 4th symphonies. There is no reason to keep these together, so most people rip each work separately, creating a separate 'album' for each work. This is one reason why digital classical collections become difficult to manage -- a collection of 1000 CDs can turn into several thousand separate works, so detailed tagging is essential if you're to retain control. Secondly, experience has shown that trying to avoid using the Artist tag for composers is futile. Too many devices or programs have limited capability for customisation, so I long ago accepted that I would have to use Artist=Composer for classical music. This also introduces problems, solved for most devices by having an additional custom tag called PopArtist for when I only want to show pop artists (and the composer tag for when I only want to show classical 'artists'. I only use the genre tag to separate music into 'pop' and 'classical'. I use other tags for more detailed classification. The classical sub-genre (instrumental/chamber/orchestral/vocal/etc) would be contained in both the COMMENT and SUBGENRE tags (I started out just using the custom SUBGENRE tag, but of course many programs don't see custom tags, so I copied the data to the COMMENT tag, which is a standard tag). So for a typical classical 'track' (here, the first movement of Beethoven's 1st symphony) my tags would look like this: *ALBUM:*Symphony No. 1 - Haitink *ARTIST:* Beethoven *BAND:* LSO, Haitink *CATALOG#:* LSO0598 *COMMENT:* Orchestral *COMPOSER:* Beethoven *CONDUCTOR:* Bernard Haitink *GENRE:* Classical *LABEL:* LSO Live *ORCHESTRA:* LSO *PERFORMER:* LSO, Haitink *PERIOD:* Romantic *SUBGENRE:* Orchestral *TITLE:* Adagio molto - Allegro con brio *TRACK:* 1 *UPC:* 822231109020 *YEAR:* 2006 Points to note: (1) The ALBUM is an individual work, not the whole CD. (2) Some tags double up, something I had to introduce for the sake of flexibility. So SUBGENRE (a custom tag) = COMMENT (a standard tag available to most programs), BAND = PERFORMER, etc. (3) The YEAR is, if possible, the year the recording was made. Useful for me to know, but not at all helpful when Muso defaults to sorting by year (as it does when you browse an artist)... (4) It might also be worth mentioning that my digital classical collection is mostly FLAC and OGG files, very rarely MP3s. So my wish in Muso would be to be able to sort classical works as follows: COMPOSER (or Artist) - SUBGENRE (or COMMENT) - ALBUM I do use LMS. I use the custom tags to create custom menus in LMS (using the Custom Browse plugin). I have tried Muso's pivot viewer, but if I'm being honest it doesn't really solve the problems I've outlined, not in its current form anyway. If Muso could pick up most or all standard tags, and could have a system to allow sorting by more levels than it currently does, it would be well on the way to delivering a first-rate classical browser (I believe COMMENT, BAND and CONDUCTOR are standard tags in FLAC/OGG/MP3, and are certainly supported in LMS:
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: Muso supports two main mechanisms to get track data into its database : - synch with LMS (for those with squeezebox devices) - reading files/tags from the file system - importing from iTunes (OK so that's 3, but I don't think I have any users that use this option) So any reading of custom tags should work from all sources - which I think in the case of LMS means using the Custom Browse plugin - anyone let me know if this is correct, it's not a plugin I've tried yet (I'd have to pay for a licence to do so). jdk - unlike you I do place emphasis on the album (the CD) as the primary browsing entity rather than the work, simply because I come to associate the cover with its contents, that comes naturally to me. But I appreciate that others may like to come at it from a different angle. If you rip a CD with two works you'd want to see two pseudo-album entities while browsing, correct? Would they both have the same cover? What if you have a multi-disk album with many works like The Essential Sibelius? (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sibelius-The-Essential/dp/B0041GRVRY/ref=dm_cd_album_lnk) I have this as a single album entity but when I view the album page I see all the works sub-divided by disk number and works within disks. Yes, If I rip a CD with two works I'd want to see two pseudo-album entities while browsing and they both have the same cover. Re The Essential Sibelius: I have the same set -- in fact as you may remember it's the example I used in an earlier post to illustrate how browsing by Year as the default does not work well (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?91575-MUSO-Support-Threadp=722072viewfull=1#post722072). Yes, I still apply the same approach to ripping -- I have divided the set into dozens of separate works and each uses the same album cover. This system works well for me. It means that when I want to play, for example, Sibelius' Symphony No.4, I go to CLASSICAL - SIBELIUS - ORCHESTRAL and run down the alphabetical list and find all my recordings of the symphonies grouped together. Re importing track data: how would I know if Muso is importing LMS custom tags successfully? I can't find any obvious reference... jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
Morbeas wrote: Excuse me for butting in jdk but are you able to have LMS display this information? I also have Custom Browse. No, that's why I've put the query back to jezbo -- he seems to be suggesting that Muso should be importing all LMS custom tags, but I can't see them anywhere. jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Morbeas wrote: But what about the LMS web interface itself? Are you able to have it displayed there? In what sense? Obviously I have a Custom Browse menu in LMS, and I've used custom tags to create that menu. But I don't think there's any facility in LMS to view/import/edit custom tags (outside of the Custom Scan/Custom Browse plugins)? jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Morbeas wrote: That's the part I'm having trouble with (excuse me, I'm somewhat of a newbie with TrackStat). :) So say I wanted to have Custom Browse display my COMMENT tags. How do I go about accomplishing this? You use Custom Scan (if necessary) to import any custom tags, then you use Manage menus (under Settings in Custom Browse) to set up your custom menu. jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Morbeas wrote: Ok, I'll give that a shot. Thanks again. The Custom Browse wiki might help: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Custom_Browse jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
After much digging around the web looking for the perfect music browser, I registered Muso. I don't think there is anything else out there that comes close to what you have achieved so far with this program. So congratulations. Having said that...as I said in a previous post, there are frustrations. While I cannot find a serious flaw in Muso when browsing pop music, it's not very useful when browsing large classical collections. For example: I have well over 100 albums of music by JS Bach. As I browse through them in Muso, I can't work out a useful way to order them so that I can find things quickly. There isn't any way to break the albums down into further sub-sections by using tags. When you have a large classical collection of CDs, you would sub-divide popular composers into sections (instrumental/chamber/orchestral/vocal/etc) -- at least that's what I do. Only then do I sort alphabetically. I think many people with large classical collections would take the same approach. And I have done the same with my digital files -- I use tags to create the sections, and I mirror that by having a similar structure for system folders. If I need to find music quickly on my Squeezebox or MP3 player, I browse by music folder. That's why I did suggest in a previous post two ways you could address this issue (either allowing the user to browse by system folders, or using multiple tags, including user-created (custom) tags. I realise that neither is a trivial request, but I sincerely hope you consider one of these options, because at the moment you have the perfect browser for pop music, but in my opinion it's still not usable for large classical collections. Keep up the good work. jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Morbeas wrote: Does it also display those tags in the web interface? I just use the custom tags to create custom menus in LMS (using Custom Browse). jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
So I've been playing with Muso today and I'm impressed. Generally I like the style of presentation, and it makes browsing my collection more interesting. However there are two factors that, for me, make it difficult to use. So this post is basically a feature request. Firstly, would it be possible to add the option to browse albums by Music Folder (one of the options offered in most LMS browsers, including Logitech's own software)? The reason for this is that I have a large collection of classical music, and browsing all albums at once is not very practical. Even though I'm careful to tag my files properly, I've always used the Music Folder option to access music because I find it's quickest. My classical music is organised as follows: Composer - Section (Orchestral/Chamber/Instrumental/Vocal) - Work-Performer Rather than browse by music folder, an alternative would be to allow sorting by multiple tags, including custom tags created by the user (not Muso tags, just standard FLAC/MP3 tags). My second request is for an option to switch the cloud map feature off and just present normal lists of artists when browsing. I just find the cloud map more difficult to scan than a standard list. And a final query: at the moment when I choose Albums Sorted by Artist, the albums don't seem always to appear in alphabetical order (see screengrab). I can't see a problem with my tags. How does Muso sort albums by Artist? +---+ |Filename: Muso3.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13834| +---+ jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Thank you for the prompt feedback. jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: Where do you store your Section information by the way - does this come across to muso via a tag? Yes, I have a custom tag (which I call sub-genre) which contains the section information. jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jezbo wrote: So this isn't pulled into muso currently I'm assuming. How does LMS get it? Via some plugin? Yes, the Custom Scan and Custom Browse plugins allow you to scan and browse custom tags in LMS. jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
I just installed Muso today and I am trying to to sync with LMS (which is on a different machine). I'm getting the following error message: Connection Failed: A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond. The CLI connection is okay. Muso is on a Windows 7 x64 machine. LMS is on a Windows Home Server machine (very similar to Windows Server 2008 R2). The music folder on the server is shared, and I temporarily disabled all firewalls in case that was the problem, but it didn't help. One thing I was wondering is if Muso insists on a recent version of LMS? I am using v7.5.2 (with MySQL version 5.0.22). +---+ |Filename: Muso2.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13828| +---+ jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MUSO - Support Thread
jdk wrote: I just installed Muso today and I am trying to to sync with LMS (which is on a different machine). I'm getting the following error message: Connection Failed: A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond. The CLI connection is okay. Muso is on a Windows 7 x64 machine. LMS is on a Windows Home Server machine (very similar to Windows Server 2008 R2). The music folder on the server is shared, and I temporarily disabled all firewalls in case that was the problem, but it didn't help. One thing I was wondering is if Muso insists on a recent version of LMS? I am using v7.5.2 (with MySQL version 5.0.22). Answering my own question here, but it might help others, as the solution is fairly obscure. I found the solution in this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?0-Connecting-to-the-MySQL-database In short, comment out the bind-address line in Squeezebox\server\MySQL\my.tt jdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9569 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91575 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
