Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Best for viewing classical music seperately
Murph;394687 Wrote: Thanks again Kesey but I think I have not explained my situation clearly enough and your recommendations, while appreciated, don't actually address my need. I have a very clean system of tags already and have no problem choosing any one particular genre or subset thereof. What I would like to be able to do is the following. -- Navigate a library that does not have classical music listed at all. -- Navigate a library that does includes classical music only. -- (and here is the catch) Retain the ability to browse by artist, album, genre within those distinctive libraries. This is necessary due to the different naming conventions used for classical. Browsing by the artist field is not always the most logical as I might be looking for a certain composer but I might also be looking for a certain conductor or orchestra I can already easily filter my music preference by choosing to browse by Genre based on my detailed tag choices. I could even, I suppose, create a tag for all 'non-classical' music regardless of whatever genres it is tagged with. However, I am then limited to browsing by the Genre function and the default fields it uses to browse by on the screen. Sorry I wasn't clear enough the first two times but your efforts are appreciated. You have basically described part of the function of Erland's MultiLibrary plug-in. You need that and Custom Browse - see Erland's guides, it does exactly what you want. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, dCS Purcell Elgar, Audion Pre, Welborne DRD 300B SETs, Lowther Big Fun Horns with PM6As adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59328 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Best for viewing classical music seperately
Thank You Listener. Erlands tools are EXACTLY what i was looking for. It took me two nights to get it all set up but it is accomplishing that which I wanted to do. Erland, he wasn't kidding when he said you were active. The instant response with links to the guide is very much appreciated. Wonderful tools! Very much deserving of a donation as soon as I remember my dusty Paypal details. I do have one question remaining after setting up and tweaking for classical browsing as per your guide. All of my level 1 entries are showing up twice in both my web GUI and on my SB. For instance, if I choose Classical Works by Composer all of the composers are listed twice. Bach Bach Beethoven Beethoven etc. The resulting sub-menus are the same regardless of which one I pick. Level 2 and 3 entries do not have a similar duplication. In another example, if I choose Classical Works by Conductor all of the conductors names appear in the list twice. I have reviewed my custom browse settings and can not discover the cause. I'm betting I made an obvious error somewhere and would appreciate any assistance. Even with the duplication, this is sooo much better than before. Thanks again everyone! -- Murph Murph's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59328 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Best for viewing classical music seperately
Murph;395120 Wrote: I do have one question remaining after setting up and tweaking for classical browsing as per your guide. All of my level 1 entries are showing up twice in both my web GUI and on my SB. Did you configure COMPOSER and CONDUCTOR as a tag in the Custom Tag scannning module settings in the Custom Scan plugin ? If you did, you should probably remove these two tags from the Tags to scan attribute in the Custom Tag settings because they will also be scanned by the standard SqueezeCenter scanner. An alternative is to empty the Composer tags and Conductor tags attributes in the Mixed Tag scanning module settings but I think you probably want to remove them from the Custom Tag scanning modules instead. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) 'My download page' (http://erland.isaksson.info/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59328 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Best for viewing classical music seperately
Thanks Kesey, I played with Moose over the weekend and it does allow me to access separate libraries (classical, everything else) from the Squeezebox. Setup wasn't extremely intuitive but it's fine once it's working. Visitors might not catch on to the separate library list on the the Squeezebox but I can live with that. I still need to tweak to get it to show alternate fields for classical. Muso looks much more intuitive. However, I don't see from the description or screen shots that it modifies how I access the library directly from my Squeezebox. It appears to be a PC control solution only but I'm not sure. I will give it a try to find out. -- Murph Murph's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59328 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Best for viewing classical music seperately
Murph;394592 Wrote: It appears to be a PC control solution only but I'm not sure. Murph, I think that given your requirement to work from the Squeezebox, the best thing is to do a tag cleanup yourself. I would suggest downloading mp3tag from http://www.mp3tag.de/en/ It is very easy to use, and you can specify easily the various genres of music you wish to categorise, to any depth you wish to go. The more detail you give it e.g. Symphony, Opera, wind, percussion, strings, choral or whatever the more you will be able to drill down with the Squeezebox. Once you have done your tagging you will need to do a rescan on Squeezecenter so that it knows that you have updated the files. A Look for new and changed music will do the job for a small no. of changes, and will allow you to check things as you go along. After a large tagging session though I would do a Clear library and rescan everything. -- kesey kesey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10786 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59328 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Best for viewing classical music seperately
Thanks again Kesey but I think I have not explained my situation clearly enough and your recommendations, while appreciated, don't actually address my need. I have a very clean system of tags already and have no problem choosing any one particular genre or subset thereof. What I would like to be able to do is the following. -- Navigate a library that does not have classical music listed at all. -- Navigate a library that does includes classical music only. -- (and here is the catch) Retain the ability to browse by artist, album, genre within those distinctive libraries. This is necessary due to the different naming conventions used for classical. Browsing by the artist field is not always the most logical as I might be looking for a certain composer but I might also be looking for a certain conductor or orchestra I can already easily filter my music preference by choosing to browse by Genre based on my detailed tag choices. I could even, I suppose, create a tag for all 'non-classical' music regardless of whatever genres it is tagged with. However, I am then limited to browsing by the Genre function and the default fields it uses to browse by on the screen. Sorry I wasn't clear enough the first two times but your efforts are appreciated. -- Murph Murph's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59328 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Best for viewing classical music seperately
No problem at all. I did not see the depth or direction you wanted to go... What I was getting at with the tagging suggestion was a derivative of Linnaean classification. Using mp3tag you could add extra (self-generated) tags in (e.g. Conductor, Orchestra, Soloist, Location of Recording etc.) which you might or might not choose to use later. These additions would add to the information already stored in your tags and hopefully allow wider search mechanisms by some means possibly yet to be unearthed:-) Good luck with the endeavours: the more detail we get, and the more avenues we explore the better. -- kesey kesey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10786 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59328 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Best for viewing classical music seperately
Murph;394687 Wrote: I have a very clean system of tags already and have no problem choosing any one particular genre or subset thereof. What I would like to be able to do is the following. -- Navigate a library that does not have classical music listed at all. -- Navigate a library that does includes classical music only. -- (and here is the catch) Retain the ability to browse by artist, album, genre within those distinctive libraries. This is necessary due to the different naming conventions used for classical. Browsing by the artist field is not always the most logical as I might be looking for a certain composer but I might also be looking for a certain conductor or orchestra I can already easily filter my music preference by choosing to browse by Genre based on my detailed tag choices. I could even, I suppose, create a tag for all 'non-classical' music regardless of whatever genres it is tagged with. However, I am then limited to browsing by the Genre function and the default fields it uses to browse by on the screen. Sorry I wasn't clear enough the first two times but your efforts are appreciated. If you aren't using the Custom browse and Custom Scan plug-ins, you should check them out. You can design your own menus to browse the sequence of tags that you need. I think that the plugins also allow for multiple libraries. The author Erland is active on these forums and especially the 3rd party plugins forum. My library is 70% classical so I understand your concerns. I agree with your analysis of what is needed. Bill -- Listener Listener's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2508 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59328 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Best for viewing classical music seperately
Tutorials for Custom Scan and Custom Browse plugins related to classical music can be found here: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Setup_browse_menu_for_classical_music -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) 'My download page' (http://erland.isaksson.info/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59328 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Best for viewing classical music seperately
Hi folks, It has been a while. My lack of posting is actually a tribute to how well my Squeezebox is working. I do have a question though. I am interested in thoughts on the 'best' way to treat classical music separately from all other genres. I know it's an old question and my searches have found some tools, such as Moose, in order to do this but I remain unsure as to what is the best method. Essentially, I want to exclude classical from my main list so it does not come up during listening to all randomized. I enjoy all forms of music but find classical just doesn't fit in when randomly playing other genres. Also, when browsing the classical list, I'd like to be able to do it by fields other than artist. I won't get into the naming convention dilemma for classical music as I mostly have that settled for myself. Mostly... In the spirit of helping oneself before asking questions, I'm going to download Moose tonight to try it out first but all advice on plug ins and methods of setting them up for this need would be greatly appreciated. -- Murph Murph's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59328 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Best for viewing classical music seperately
Murph;393079 Wrote: I am interested in thoughts on the 'best' way to treat classical music separately from all other genres. Have a look at Muso. It is really nice, and easy to use. http://klarita.net/muso.html You could set up separate tags, or possibly just make sure your genres are tagged correctly. -- kesey kesey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10786 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59328 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
