Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-21 Thread ModelCitizen

Hi Triode.
I have jut received a "Plugind updated, need restart" alert on my SBS
web gui home page. As a result I navigated to the plugins/ED page and
restarted via the popup alert. Once restarted I restarted Firefox and
checked that the alert had cleared from the home and plugins page. It
had.

So, assuming that a plugin needed updating then all appeared to work
fine.

I've attached log with (I'm pretty sure) the server.plugin logging
still set to info in case it's of any use in this case.

MC


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-19 Thread Triode

ModelCitizen;474249 Wrote: 
> 
> BTW. Have just noticed that the description dor the unused
> iTunesPartyShuffle (James Craig) is Hash(0710a86c).
> 
That looks to be due to there being a null description in James's xml.

> 
> Also, I can't copy and paste from ED... and one click on Windows
> vertical scroll bar does not always have the effect of moving the page
> down one screen (often it's 2).
> 
Don't know about this - I think its the js library which Michael used
to build the clever reorderable lists.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-19 Thread ModelCitizen

Triode;473860 Wrote: 
> For the moment on this one, could you try setting server.plugin logging
> to info and selecing persist logging.
> 
Done. Does this persist for one restart or in perpetuity?

BTW. Have just noticed that the description dor the unused
iTunesPartyShuffle (James Craig) is Hash(0710a86c).

Also, I can't copy and paste from ED... and one click on Windows
vertical scroll bar does not always have the effect of moving the page
down one screen (often it's 2).

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-18 Thread ModelCitizen

Triode;473860 Wrote: 
> For the moment on this one, could you try setting server.plugin logging
> to info and selecing persist logging.  This should mean that any updates
> are logged to the log file.  This will confirm you are only seeing
> restart messages when it has done something.
Will do
Triode;473860 Wrote: 
> 
> For problem 2 - this is possibly because the web front page is not
> fully refreshed?  At present plugin state reuses the server upgrade
> available message.  This means it is not refreshed while you are looking
> at the page and needs a full refresh of the front page to see it.  It
> will also be hidden if there are any server updates indicated.
No, at least once this was from opening up Firefox for the first time
after rebooting my PC!

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-18 Thread Triode

ModelCitizen;473842 Wrote: 
> 
> Problem 1:
> No indication which individual plugins are being updated (or need
> updating). This after receiving a notification on the main SBS page that
> some plugins need updating and a restart required. I think this is the
> one we agree I am seeing and needs fixing so a user can know which
> plugins are beiung updated.

For the moment on this one, could you try setting server.plugin logging
to info and selecing persist logging.  This should mean that any updates
are logged to the log file.  This will confirm you are only seeing
restart messages when it has done something.

For problem 2 - this is possibly because the web front page is not
fully refreshed?  At present plugin state reuses the server upgrade
available message.  This means it is not refreshed while you are looking
at the page and needs a full refresh of the front page to see it.  It
will also be hidden if there are any server updates indicated.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-18 Thread ModelCitizen

It has just struck me that Problem 2 might be reslted to this problem
(and in fcat be a bug in the status reports that appear at the bottom of
the SBS home page, rather than ED.

At least twice in ther last three days after doing full rescans the
status notice at the bottom of the web gui that says something like "SBS
is still scanning your music library" has persisted after the scan has
finsished "and after* I've shut down the web gui and reopened it.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-18 Thread ModelCitizen

I still think we might be missing each othera bit. There are two
(possibly entirely distinct) problems.

Problem 1:
No indication which individual plugins are being updated (or need
updating). This after receiving a notification on the main SBS page that
some plugins need updating and a restart required. I think this is the
one we agree I am seeing and needs fixing so a user can know which
plugins are beiung updated.

Problem 2:
No indication appears on the SBS home page (or anywhere else) that
plugins need updating but when ED/Plugins page is navigated to the
"Choose to restart now or later" pop-up ..err.. pops up.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-18 Thread Triode

MC - so I think this is working as expected with automatic updates
enabled.  What is missing is log of what has be updated.  We need to add
this...

If you look at: http://svn.slimdevices.com/slim/vendor/plugins/

You will see the repo.xml and other.xml files have been updated
frequently for the latest versions of each of the plugins.  If you have
any of these installed then your server will check these xml feeds once
every 24 hours and download any updates.  The only visual clue of this
is the needs upgrade message.  Would this explain what you are seeing?

I think it would be useful to put something in the plugin status page
info area to say what was installed at the last restart.  At this point
we know it has been succefully installed.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-18 Thread ModelCitizen

OK. The message telling me to that there were updated plugins available
was on the SBS web gui home page. I *do* have "Update all plugins
automatcially" selected.

I need to get something clear. I have no evidence either way that any
plugins needed updating. If I did then they probably updated fine and
everything worked as exactly as I'd have expected it to... with one
exception... there was no indication on the ED page informing me which
plugins needed updating (or maybe more correctly, were being updated). I
was under thye ipression (form a post form Phil above??) that the
plugins needing updates would be highlighted in bold.
---

Before posting this I went to the ED page to make sure that I had
selected Update all plugins automatically". Despite no notifications
anywhere (that I can see) the pop-up window appeared informing me that I
needed to restart SBS for the updates to take affect (I have not made
any updates since last posting and have restarte at least twice since
then. I have done 2 full rescans though). I elected to restart later. Is
it worth me turning on the debugging again to trap the restart pop-up
for my next visit to the ED page, or is it to late now for useful info?

I think if I am the only one receiving oddities like this then it might
be because of the "Additional" third party repositories I have added.
I'm a bit dubious the first one of them. They are:

http://www.mikecappella.com/wallpaper/wallpapers.xml
http://erlandplugins.googlecode.com/svn/repository/trunk/testing.xml.

I have not installed any of Erlands beta plugins.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-17 Thread Triode

Ok - we need to be really clear which messages you are seeing and when. 
Is this the message on the front page of the web interface, or on the
plugin page?  What exactly did it say?  Do you have any manually
installed versions of the same plugins in the system at the same time?

If its due to the plugin page showing that there are plugins which have
been updated, then does it show when you go to another page and come
back.  If so can you enable plugin.extensions debugging and post this on
a bug for the time when you see this.

I'm afraid extension downloader is complex as there's lots of
distributed state in terms of all the async downloading and contents of
the repos - I can't reproduce your problems at present, so I need a few
more hints from the debugs..


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-17 Thread Phil Meyer
>Do you have automatic update enabled?  If so they will be upgraded on
>restart but there is currently no feedback on this (which I think should
>be fixed as a bug..)
I've been seeing the same issue - automatic update disabled.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-17 Thread Phil Meyer
Sounds the same as the issue I was seeing.  
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14657
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-17 Thread Triode

Do you have automatic update enabled?  If so they will be upgraded on
restart but there is currently no feedback on this (which I think should
be fixed as a bug..)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-17 Thread ModelCitizen

I have just received a message stating that my plugins have been updated
and that I need to restart SBS. I then went to the plugins/Extension
Downloader page and closed the pop-up, electing to restart later. I've
looked really, really hard to find any plugins highlighted in bold text
(or even any bold text at all) that might indicate which plugins are
being updated, but could not find any.

In case this is a browser/css/html problem I'm using Firefox 3.53 on
Windows XP Pro and the current latest 7.4.1 - r28887 @ Fri Oct 16
06:02:49 PDT 2009.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-12 Thread Triode

Strange - I would have expected to see something there.  If you see it
again could you also check the server.plugins file to see if any plugins
in there are in state needs-* as this is what should cause that message.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-12 Thread ModelCitizen

Triode;471223 Wrote: 
> Which suggests to me that it should not be saying there are plugins to
> update - did you see that at the time you produced this debug?
I'd not installed any new plugins at the time of this log was produced
or been alerted about updates but (as I remember) I did receive a pop-up
saying that I needed to restart my server.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-12 Thread Triode

ModelCitizen;470963 Wrote: 
> I started the app from the command line with your suggested string.
> Switch Player plugin was visible in ED interface this time so I haven't
> filed a bug. I've attached the log file here in case it might be of use
> though. As well as the server start-up it includes a bit where I
> navigated to the ED interface (which may or may not be of any
> interest).
> 
> MC
So this show the line:
[09-10-12 08:14:01.2746] Slim::Plugin::Extensions::Plugin::findUpdates
(309) no action required

Which suggests to me that it should not be saying there are plugins to
update - did you see that at the time you produced this debug?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-12 Thread Millwood

https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14164


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-12 Thread ModelCitizen

Ooh, and that's a jolly nice icon too!  :-)
If you need any more for other plugins let me know and I'll see what I
can do.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-12 Thread ModelCitizen

Triode;470718 Wrote: 
> MC - I've still not seen any debugs...  Please raise a bug with "--debug
> server.plugins,plugin.extensions" used to start the server from the
> command line.

I started the app from the command line with your suggested string.
Switch Player plugin was visible in ED interface this time so I haven't
filed a bug. I've attached the log file here in case it might be of use
though. As well as the server start-up it includes a bit where I
navigated to the ED interface (which may or may not be of any interest).

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-11 Thread Triode

MC - I've still not seen any debugs...  Please raise a bug with "--debug
server.plugins,plugin.extensions" used to start the server from the
command line.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-11 Thread ModelCitizen

I did not install it manually. I did fresh and entirely clean install of
7.4. For me this appears as a continuation of the same problems I had
with ED on 7.3.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-11 Thread Phil Meyer
>I can understand why the SP update might not be available but the fact
>that SP is not listed in ED at looks like a probable bug.
>
Versioning issue perhaps?  Or it is installed manually, and therefore you are 
not informed of an available update.

NB. I think it would be nice if it detected newer versions available in ED even 
if plugins are manually installed (i.e. display a warning, highlight plugins in 
bold, but not offer an upgrade option).
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-11 Thread ModelCitizen

.. and you've done it. thanks very mich.

However, SBS is not stating "Plugins have been updated - Restart
Required".
A loo at ED and SWitchPLayer is not listed at all. Odd, as it is
installed. However, the ED page is prompting me to restart SBS so...
restart and SP is still not listed and not updated on my Controller
(but SP does still working on my Controller).

I can understand why the SP update might not be available but the fact
that SP is not listed in ED at looks like a probable bug.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-11 Thread Triode

ModelCitizen;470426 Wrote: 
> 
> Oh well, I'll just have get off my arse to find a controller to see if
> Triode has added an icon to the SwitchPlayer plugin... :-)
> 

Not yet but its on my list of things to do..


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-11 Thread ModelCitizen

Philip Meyer;470422 Wrote: 
> When it says that plugin updates are available, you can see the plugins
> that have updates available in the Active Plugins list, highlighted in
> bold.
I did scan down the Active Plugins list before restarting but did not
notice any highlighted in bold. Maybe I missed it. I think it's be handy
to be able to tell when a plugin was last updated after you've restarted
Extension Downloader.

Oh well, I'll just have get off my arse to find a controller to see if
Triode has added an icon to the SwitchPlayer plugin... :-)

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-11 Thread Phil Meyer
>1) I'd like to know which plugins have been updated but as far as I can
>tell I am not informed. Is this correct? If not, where does it tell me?
>
When it says that plugin updates are available, you can see the plugins that 
have updates available in the Active Plugins list, highlighted in bold.

However, I was getting "plugins have been updated" following a restart, even 
though there were no plugin updates identified previously, and I have auto 
updates turned off.

>2) Even though I've restarted the server the line "Plugins have been
>updated - Restart Required" will not go away until I close the SBS web
>ui.

I was getting that too, which is a bit confusing if you leave the window open 
all day and come back the next day...

I use Firefox Prism plugin to create a dedicated application that can be 
iconised to task tray, so it remains open all the time.
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[SlimDevices: Plugins] Extension Downloader: which plugins updated... and more

2009-10-11 Thread ModelCitizen

SBS has just alerted me that I need to restart it as some plugins have
been updated. I have two issues:

1) I'd like to know which plugins have been updated but as far as I can
tell I am not informed. Is this correct? If not, where does it tell me?

2) Even though I've restarted the server the line "Plugins have been
updated - Restart Required" will not go away until I close the SBS web
ui.

Thanks.

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