Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] IR blaster -- volume buttons on server webpage?
Yes, that does work, thanks. In fact, it works better than volume +/- using the logitech remote and IR blaster, because on the web interface, one can click quickly several times in quick succession to change volume by several steps. On the original device remote, a single quick press of volume up/down gives one step change in volume, while a sustained press gives several steps in quick succession, after a brief pause. I suppose this is the usual behavior for control of volume by remotes. It would be nice if the plugin author could also emulate this behavior. I don't know if this was the intention, but in any case, I don't get this (desirable) behavior. Nevertheless, it is remarkable that the plugin works as well as it does. Thanks to the author! -- fredgoodman fredgoodman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7616 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79317 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] IR blaster -- volume buttons on server webpage?
Would it be possible for the developer of IR blaster to put buttons on the Squeezebox Server webpage to control volume via whatever mechanism is defined through the IR blaster settings? In case the main server webpage is off limits to plugin developers, would it be possible to have another little floating window with volume up/down buttons? When volume up/down is enabled in IR blaster, the volume setting of the player itself is fixed, and there is no volume control from the Server webpage. In this case, I would like to have volume up/down buttons on the Server webpage which would be functionally equivalent to the volume up/down buttons on the remote control, and which would result in sending volume up/down signals to the preamp or amp. Thanks. -- fredgoodman fredgoodman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7616 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79317 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] IR blaster -- volume buttons on server webpage?
They are there already :) The ends of the bar on the web page are the buttons you are missing. Even if volume is fixed at 100% you can still click on these to change the volume via IR blaster. The buttons look like little speakers with sound waves coming off. Something like o) and o))) I assume you are on your own server page and not mysqueezebox.com. -- lrossouw Louis 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw) lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79317 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] IR Blaster Volume granularity
Hi George Hmm, your file looks ok to me. What happens if you use the Test button in the web GUI? Maybe changing the position of the IR emitter helps? Felix -- fcm4711 Focus means saying no. - Steve Jobs fcm4711's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73425 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] IR Blaster Volume granularity
Hi, I am using IR Blaster with an SB3 to control NAD receiver. I use a mix of iPeng, SB3 IR remote, and Squeezebox Radio to control this SB3 receiver combination. The SB3 volume is fixed at 100, and I send volume up and volume down commands to the NAD receiver. I'm using an lirc file and none of the commands are learned. The problem I am having is that the volume control is too coarse. So one tap of the volume up or volume down increases or decreases the volume too much. I'm thinking that the IR command is simply being blasted at the receivers IR port for too long. Is there a way to set a shorter duration? Would learning the volume up/down commands from my NAD remote help? Thanks! George -- gdpeck gdpeck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4686 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73425 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] IR Blaster Volume granularity
Hi George Can you post the lirc file you are using, maybe it can be tweaked. P.S. I had the opposite problem which I was able to solve by sending the same command about 3 times. Cheers Felix -- fcm4711 Focus means saying no. - Steve Jobs fcm4711's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73425 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] IR-Blaster Volume Control
melomania;433009 Wrote: Is it possible for me to adapt your code? For instance by filling in the RS232 sequences needed for the Tact? Sure. All the code is there, and you're welcome to change it as needed -- my code is released under the GPL. Here's the core rs232 logic, in a nutshell: - there's a single queue of commands to be sent (shared by all players) - each queue entry knows what player it's for, what to send to the rs232 port, and how many lines of response to expect from the amp - after sending a command, the plugin won't expect a response for some period of time (fraction of a second), and it uses the SqueezeCenter scheduler API to let SqueezeCenter do other things in the meantime - once it starts reading the response, the plugin keeps reading until either -- it gets the expected number of response lines (there's also some logic to try and figure out if the expected # of response lines has changed; for instance, the Denon will send different #s of response lines depending on things like whether the amp is on or in standby mode) -- a certain maximum response time has elapsed -- a certain amount of time has elapsed since the last response line - the responses are bundled into an array and processed by a routine - once it has finished reading a response, it will not send another command for a certain amount of time (give the amp a break) -- again, using the SqueezeCenter scheduler API There are 3 basic queries that it sends -- power status (PW?), volume level (MV?), and input source (SI?). And currently three basic commands: set volume (MVnnn), unset muting (MUOFF), set power (PWON|PWSTANDBY). I intend to add the ability to set source, and possibly to set/unset other Denon attributes, like sound processing modes. If the Tact protocol is similar (lines terminated by carriage returns and/or linefeeds), it shouldn't be too bad to modify my code. You'd mainly want to look at the routines processCommandFromQueue, getResponse, processResponses, any place that my code calls the enqueue routine, and the volumeSBToDenon/volumeDenonToSB routines. getResponse is rather ugly at the moment (dearth of comments, logic basically pasted into two spots instead of being pushed into a method). If you can point me to Tact serial protocol documentation, I could give you a better idea how tough I think it'd be. And, who knows, maybe even be inspired to make my plugin support both brands. I might've done that for Yamaha since they also make relatively inexpensive gear w/ serial ports, but IIRC they had some annoying web site that requires users to create login accounts before getting any documentation. Best way to stop an open source project from supporting your hardware is to put the docs behind some annoying clickthrough barrier. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver ContextMenu FuzzyTime KidsPlay KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63486 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] IR-Blaster Volume Control
This is getting very interresting! But I suddenly ask myself if I understand correctly. Because what I need is to control the amplifier that is near to the squeezebox. So this RS232 output that will be controlled, where is it located? On the squeezebox (I hope)? I heard someting about a special connector on the PCB of the squeezebox that could be used for that. Or is it a RS232 port of the computer where squeeze center is running on? I don't hope so, because here it is running on a NAS that is in some other room! So is this a solution for me? -- melomania melomania's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31046 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63486 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] IR-Blaster Volume Control
melomania;433864 Wrote: This is getting very interresting! But I suddenly ask myself if I understand correctly. Because what I need is to control the amplifier that is near to the squeezebox. So this RS232 output that will be controlled, where is it located? On the squeezebox (I hope)? I heard someting about a special connector on the PCB of the squeezebox that could be used for that. Or is it a RS232 port of the computer where squeeze center is running on? I don't hope so, because here it is running on a NAS that is in some other room! So is this a solution for me? I'd be interested to see that PCB solution -- all I've seen are simple on/off AC relays. As far as I know, no Squeezebox has or can have a serial port, so you would either need the amp to be next to the SqueezeCenter machine (as it is with my Denon system) or you would need a device like a Sena LS100 (LS110?) that provides a telnet-like network interface to a serial device like the amp. If your SB is wireless, you should be able to connect something like the Sena through the SB's ethernet port, using the SB's bridging ability. My plugin should work with devices like the Sena, but I don't have one to test with and haven't heard from anyone who's tried yet. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver ContextMenu FuzzyTime KidsPlay KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63486 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] IR-Blaster Volume Control
Is it possible for me to adapt your code? For instance by filling in the RS232 sequences needed for the Tact? -- melomania melomania's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31046 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63486 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] IR-Blaster Volume Control
peterw;424832 Wrote: , and I'm working on another (for RS232-equipped Denon gear). Sounds interresting! I have a Tact amplifier that can be controller by RS232. Will your plugin be able to control it? Would be wonderfull!!! Will it be available for the community? -- melomania melomania's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31046 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63486 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] IR-Blaster Volume Control
melomania;432910 Wrote:
Sounds interresting!
I have a Tact amplifier that can be controller by RS232.
Will your plugin be able to control it? Would be wonderfull!!!
Will it be available for the community?
It would take some effort to add support for a different RS232
protocol; right now it's *very* much focused on Denon. I made no effort
to abstract out the protocol details -- it's not $amp-checkVolume(),
but rather enqueue('MV?'). Can you point me to specs on the Tact
protocol/syntax/etc?
The code is in my testing repository now:
http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/slim7/repodata-test.xml Manual downloads
from http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/slim7/TESTING/DenonSerial/
It depends on some CPAN modules that come bundled with the plugin; if
you're running something other than Windows or Linux on x86/x64
hardware, you may need to install Device::SerialPort (source comes with
the plugin). The zip file is big mainly because it includes pre-compiled
Device::SerialPort .so files for Perl 5.8 and 5.10 on 32- and 64-bit
Linux. The install metadata file says it'll run on SqueezeCenter 7.2 and
later, and I think it should, but I've only tested on 7.3 and 7.4.
On my dev box I've been fiddling with multi-zone support -- there's no
reason you couldn't hook several Squeezeboxes to one Denon amp and use
it for multi-zone distribution -- but the code I'm running on my main
system, and what's in the testing repo, only understands the main/master
zone. And I have not yet written a web page describing the features;
like many other plugins, this is very much created to take care of my
own personal needs. I only added the Network address/telnet and
Remote system/CLI notification support because it was relatively easy.
(And I'm still not sure the telnet support works; nobody with that gear
has given me feedback yet.)
-Peter
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] IR-Blaster Volume Control
That sounds cool but won't work for amps controlled via RC5 will it? As I think they don't offer any feedback of the current position of the volume control. Anyway, I now have the 'official' (i.e. not learned) system and command codes for my amp, but I find that the volume does not increase or decrease smoothly (if I hold it down, it only moves a couple of jerks). Presumably this is something to do with the repeat function of lirc, has anyone else got any experience of tweaking this? -- IMGrant IMGrant's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63486 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] IR-Blaster Volume Control
I just installed IR Blaster too, to use with my Naim 112x pre-amp. I find that if I have the fixed volume parameter of IR Blaster set to 100%, then I cannot increase the volume. It seems IR Blaster needs to use the volume control of the SB in some way to change the volume externally. Ideally I want my SB on 100% and my volume keys control the amp but I can't do this - I need the fixed volume aspect of IR Blaster on 60% to give enough headroom to go up and down. Also, I find that the volume does not increase as smoothly or in as large jumps as with my amp remote - it goes up in little jerks if I hole the volume key down, and so I then quickly run out of volume space when the bar on the SB reaches the top or bottom. Maybe this is something to do with my codes - I have tried learning and also generic Phillips RC-5. -- IMGrant IMGrant's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63486 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] IR-Blaster Volume Control
epoch1970;424553 Wrote: Mhh. I won't be too affirmative, but I do the same as you, with volume fixed at 100% in player preferences; I think the Classic shouldn't display the volume bar when its output is fixed, it's just misleading. It's also handy when you want the SB to play at a fixed volume but display the volume of the amp on the Classic display, the SqueezeCenter web UI, etc. There's at least one plugin out there right now that does that (DenonAVP, for ethernet-equipped Denon gear), and I'm working on another (for RS232-equipped Denon gear). I do think it would be better if there were a more clear API for dealing with fictional volume displays, but the current misleading behavior actually works well for some of us running at 100% fixed volume. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver ContextMenu FuzzyTime KidsPlay KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63486 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] IR-Blaster Volume Control
Hi, I have just setup IR-Blaster (latest version from the IR-Blaster wiki) to work with my Cambridge Audio Azur 740a and my SB Classic. Once I had 'learned' the signals from the main remote everything works exactly as expected apart from one thing. When I use the volume control from the SC Remote it controls both the amp and the SB Classic. I want the SB Classic volume to be fixed and the amp to control the volume. I have tried setting the fixed volume for the player but it doesn't have any impact on the volume settings of the SB Classic. Version details below: Version: 7.3.2 - 24695 @ Mon Jan 19 18:55:04 PST 2009 OS: Windows Server 2003 - EN - cp1252 Perl Version: 5.8.8 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread MySQL Version: 5.0.22-community-nt Total Players Recognized: 3 -- cwetton cwetton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=24257 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63486 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] IR-Blaster Volume Control
Mhh. I won't be too affirmative, but I do the same as you, with volume fixed at 100% in player preferences; I think the Classic shouldn't display the volume bar when its output is fixed, it's just misleading. I can do this with my system: i) lower the volume (on the amp, with the SBC remote) and the SBC shows its volume bar going from 100 to, say, 90. ii) wait a few seconds, iii) lower the volume again; at that moment the SBC will pretend again going down from 100. -- epoch1970 epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63486 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] IR Blaster Volume
aha ... thx ... it works if i increase the delay to 0.75. thx for the help. h. -- hdarwen hdarwen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2001 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33906 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] IR Blaster Volume
fcm4711;190373 Wrote: Hi Howard Do you by any chance have VolumeLock plugin by Peter Watkins installed? Cheers Felix Nope. But I do have the option to fix the digital volume output set in the player settings (it's digital output to a DAC, probably should have said that at the start). Playing around some more (regardless of the digital volume setting on the player - have tried with both), I can get the volume to move if I press the volume button and release immediately. This seems to work better for volume up than volume down. But if I hold the voleme buttons down, I get an initial movement (on the first blast presumably), then the level stays static. Thx for the help. If you have any other suggestions let me know. I might try clearing all the files out and starting from scratch again later. Ta. h. -- hdarwen hdarwen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2001 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33906 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] IR Blaster Volume
Hi Howard Well, that is good news. It means IR Blaster works for volume changes but the timing seems to be wrong. I guess SB remote repeats to quickly. Have you tried to play with the delay in the IR Blaster settings? Cheers Felix -- fcm4711 Everyone said: This cannot be done. But one day someone came along who didn't know about this - and did it. (Source unknown) fcm4711's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33906 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] IR Blaster Volume
fcm4711;190226 Wrote: Could you try this (I've removed the repeated command i.e. 4 lines each) for volume up down and tell me how it works? (Test and remote?) Thx Felix. It does the same. Test works, but the buttons on the remote don't. Which I think you will tell me is odd :). Any other suggestions appreciated. Ta. Howard. -- hdarwen hdarwen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2001 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33906 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] IR Blaster Volume
if it helps any, this is the spec of the amp remote ... http://www.cyrusaudio.com/cms_downloads/Cyrus5678remotecodes.pdf -- hdarwen hdarwen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2001 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33906 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] IR Blaster Volume
Hi Howard Do you by any chance have VolumeLock plugin by Peter Watkins installed? Cheers Felix -- fcm4711 Everyone said: This cannot be done. But one day someone came along who didn't know about this - and did it. (Source unknown) fcm4711's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33906 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] IR Blaster Volume
Am getting same behaviour as in this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31783highlight=ir+blaster+volume Basically, Power On Off works, Volume Up and Down work from test, but not from the remote. I have remade the conf file being slightly more (erm) delicate with the button pressing, but still get the same behaviour. SlimServer version is 6.5.1 on windows XP. IR Blaster is version 4.1. The conf file (or the latest one I have generated, as each seems to be quite different) is below. I am guessing I have to edit out some repeats, but not sure where they are. Many thx for any help. Would be seriously useful if I can get this last bit to work! H. begin remote name Cyrus3 flags RAW_CODES begin raw_codes name CD 107570010007751000775 1850800950800950800 95017009508001850800 950800950170095090075 975775185017001850800 9508009508009501700 9508001850800950800 950170095090100 975775950800950800 1850170018508009501700 18501700950800950800 185090975 9757751850170018501700 1850800950170018501700 95080095080018502 name OFF 105072510507501025750 1850800950800950800 9501700950800950800 950800950800185090975 1000750185017001850800 9508009508009501700 950800950800950800 950800185090975 9758001025750950800 18508009501700950800 950800950800950800 950800950800185090975 1000750185017001850800 9501700950800950800 950800950800950800 950800185090975 9757751000750950800 1850170018508009501700 950800950800950800 95080018502 name + 105072510007751000775 1875775975775975775 95080095017001850800 95080095080095090975 975775975775975775 1875775950800950800 95080095017001850800 9508009508009502 name - 1075700190016751850800 950800950800950800 95017001850800950800 950170095090075 975775185017001850800 950800950800950800 95017001850800950800 95017009502 end raw_codes end remote -- hdarwen hdarwen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2001 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33906 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] IR Blaster Volume
Hi hdarwen Could you try this (I've removed the repeated command i.e. 4 lines each) for volume up down and tell me how it works? (Test and remote?) Cheers Felix name + 1050 725 1000 775 1000 775 1875 775 975 775 975 775 950 800 950 1700 1850 800 950 800 950 800 950 90975 name - 1075 700 1900 1675 1850 800 950 800 950 800 950 800 950 1700 1850 800 950 800 950 1700 950 90075 -- fcm4711 Everyone said: This cannot be done. But one day someone came along who didn't know about this - and did it. (Source unknown) fcm4711's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33906 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
