Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Moving to Customscan integration with MusicIP questions...
Hi, thanks, so there is no way of archiving the file analysis in the tags without the MusicIP mixer GUI unforunately... -- Tartifless Tartifless's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37024 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88574 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Moving to Customscan integration with MusicIP questions...
Tartifless;639260 Wrote:
> Isn't there any possibility to launch MIP Mixer actions in command line
> ? So it would avoid having to open the GUI ?
>
It has a web GUI you can access with a web browser:
http://localhost:10002/
This thread contains a zip with the HTTP api which the SBS MusicIP
plugin is using and also the command line options:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74382
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Moving to Customscan integration with MusicIP questions...
Isn't there any possibility to launch MIP Mixer actions in command line ? So it would avoid having to open the GUI ? -- Tartifless Tartifless's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37024 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88574 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Moving to Customscan integration with MusicIP questions...
Tartifless;639233 Wrote:
>
> Now my next question:
> Currently I do the following:
> 1) Tag music with Musicbrainz Picard
> 2) Analyze music with MIP headless
> 3) Import music in SBS
>
> Would there be a way to do step 2 and 3 automatically ? (using GENPUID
> for example or anything else)
>
If I remember correctly, point 3 will happen automatically. The SBS
MusicIP plugin regularly checks if the MusicIP library has changed and
if it has it will trigger a rescan in SBS to get the changes. I think
the check interval is 1 hour by default but it can be changed in the
MusicIP plugin settings page through the "MusicIP Reload Interval"
parameter.
However, remember that the MusicIP library will change when you play a
song or change a rating because then the "MusicIP Statistics Exporter"
in Custom Scan plugin will update the MusicIP library. So you probably
don't want to set the "MusicIP Reload Interval" too short because then
the server is going to rescan all the time.
Tartifless;639233 Wrote:
>
> My wish would be to have also the analysis archived in the file, for
> the next time I'll update or change hardware.
>
I think you need MIP for analysis, if I remember correctly the GenPUID
software only generate the PUID fingerprint it doesn't generate the
analysis data required by MusicIP for mixing. But I'm not completely
sure about this so if someone knows for sure reads this, please confirm
it. There was a discussion on these forums about PUID and GenPUID a few
months ago.
So based on this, I think you can automate point 3 but not 1 and 2.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Moving to Customscan integration with MusicIP questions...
Hi, Thanks for all this, so basically here is what I will do: - SBS will be my basis for ratings for I will activate dynamic export to MUSICIP - MusicIP is ONLY used for audio fingerprinting and use of spicefly sugarcube, so I will scan only mixable state (as I do today) Now my next question: Currently I do the following: 1) Tag music with Musicbrainz Picard 2) Analyze music with MIP headless 3) Import music in SBS Would there be a way to do step 2 and 3 automatically ? (using GENPUID for example or anything else) My wish would be to have also the analysis archived in the file, for the next time I'll update or change hardware. Regards, Benoit -- Tartifless Tartifless's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37024 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88574 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Moving to Customscan integration with MusicIP questions...
Tartifless;638801 Wrote:
>
> - What scan plugin do I have to activate in customscan ?
>
If you want to copy ratings from SBS to MusicIP, you would enable
"MusicIP Statistics Export".
If you want to copy ratings from MusicIP to SBS (including TrackStat),
you would enable "MusicIP Statistics Import".
If I remember correctly, the default SBS scanner will import ratings
into SBS database if MusicIP integration is enabled, but it will only
affect TrackStat ratings for unrated tracks. TrackStat data for rated
tracks will only be updated if you have activated the "MusicIP
Statistics Import" module. TrackStat ratings are stored separately from
SBS ratings, the reason for this is to avoid that the standard SBS
scanner doesn't overwrite the invaluable TrackStat data during scanning
with data from RATING tags, iTunes or MusicIP.
So if you like to change ratings through the MuiscIP application user
interface, you will need "MusicIP Statisics Import" activated but if
you only plan to change ratings through SBS you don't need it to be
activated.
The "MusicIP Statisics Export" module will overwrite any existing
ratings in MusicIP, this is ok as long as you have the correct ratings
in SBS. If your correct ratings are in MusicIP you want to do an import
through "MusicIP Statistics Import" module first.
If you want a two way solution, where you can change ratings both in
SBS and in MusicIP and always keep both in sync, that's theoretically
possible by enabling both "MusicIP Statistics Export" and "MusicIP
Statistics Import" modules. I think there are some users that run it
this way but it's a bit risky since there are going to be conflicts if
a specific track rating has been changed in both SBS and MusicIP
simultaneously. In a two-way solution it's important to configure the
"Scanning order in automatic and "Scan All"" option in Custom Scan for
these modules so the import executes before the export, the reason
being that the import module have some built-in merging logic based on
last modification time while the export module always will overwrite
existing data.
Tartifless;638801 Wrote:
> - What is the best way to update MusicIP information in SBS on a
> scheduled basis (without erasing ratings) ? (basically I would like to
> be able to have my music in SBS before MIP analyzis and update it later
> with MIP fingerprint when it has been analyzed without deleting
> trackstat info + ratings).
>
As said above, TrackStat info will not be deleted unless you have
activated the "MusicIP Statistics Import" module.
The safe approach which I'd recommend, is to change ratings through SBS
and only activate the "MusicIP Statistics Export" module to make sure
they are transfered to MusicIP and can be used in MusicIP
mixing/playlist logic. You should activate the "Dynamically update
statistics" in the "MusicIP Statistics Export" module to make the
synchronization happen continuously.
I'd also recommend that you configure the MusicIP plugin in its "Only
read mixable status from MusicIP" mode.
If you decide to use the "MusicIP Statistics Import" module, make sure
you take a TrackStat backup first so you can revert if something goes
wrong. If you have nightly backups configured in TrackStat, you can
just make sure that you keep the backup file from the night before.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Moving to Customscan integration with MusicIP questions...
Thanks but that don't answer all of my questions regarding what I want to achieve: Let me proceed by steps, currently I do this: 1) Tagging files with MusicBrainz Picard 2) Move files to Music folder 3) Using MIP headless to analyse and validate tracks 4) Scan for changes in Squeezebox server What I would like to do is automatize steps 3 and 4, would that be correct: 3) Use GENPUID as scheduled task (this would also allow to archive analysis) 4) Schedule library updates in SBS My requirements and doubts: - I would like removed folders to disappear from m3lib file (musicIP database) and from SBS - I need MIP analyses to be archived - I would like in the future to use Squeezebox server as basis for song ratings so the first part I'm trying to achieve here must be compliant with this future need Is my approach correct by using GenPUID scheduled task ? -- Tartifless Tartifless's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37024 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88574 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Moving to Customscan integration with MusicIP questions...
Tartifless;638801 Wrote: > > What would be the requirements to do this, is my following idea right: > - Install trackstat > - Install customscan > - Configure trackstat to dynamically update ratings > - Configure customscan to dynamically copy ratings to MIP > > My questions are also: > - What scan plugin do I have to activate in customscan ? > - What is the best way to update MusicIP information in SBS on a > scheduled basis (without erasing ratings) ? (basically I would like to > be able to have my music in SBS before MIP analyzis and update it later > with MIP fingerprint when it has been analyzed without deleting > trackstat info + ratings). > You need dymanmic playlist plugin also to make playlists. Also if you know SQL the SQL playlist plugin is also good. You can setup scanner in squeezebox to only scan the musicip status for your songs. This should update as and when you process track via musicip in squeezebox. This blog also has a few good tips: http://wiredformusic.blogspot.com/2008/05/squeezing-most-out-of-your-squeezebox.html -- lrossouw Louis 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw) lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88574 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Moving to Customscan integration with MusicIP questions...
Hello, I have a setup based on SBS 7.5.5 and MusicIP headless working together on a WHS 2011 box. Now I would like to go deeper in integration by using trackstat and customscan to integrate everything and make playlists based on playcount/ratings, etc... Currently I haven't managed any ratings so far. My goal would be: - Automatically setting up ratings based on the length of the file that I listen to when playing a file (I understand Trackstat can do that) - Exporting realtime those ratings in MusicIP so that a future rescan will not erase them What would be the requirements to do this, is my following idea right: - Install trackstat - Install customscan - Configure trackstat to dynamically update ratings - Configure customscan to dynamically copy ratings to MIP My questions are also: - What scan plugin do I have to activate in customscan ? - What is the best way to update MusicIP information in SBS on a scheduled basis (without erasing ratings) ? (basically I would like to be able to have my music in SBS before MIP analyzis and update it later with MIP fingerprint when it has been analyzed without deleting trackstat info + ratings). Thanks for your help, Regards, Benoit -- Tartifless Tartifless's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37024 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88574 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
