Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
cparker wrote: > Would love to implement but I have no idea what changes are required to > make it show up. I'm just staring with MusicIP now - what are these entries for? And should they really be next to browse options? AFAICS, they don't list music. *Material debug:* 1. Launch via http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json 2. Open browser's developer tools 3. Open console tab in developer tools 4. REQ/RESP messages sent to/from LMS will be logged here. cpd73's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66686 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
prabbit wrote: > Charles, I'd like to see your Sugarcube menus while using the Material > skin. I'm guessing if the change works for Material, then it would also > work for iPeng and Squeeze Ctrl, both of which I also use and don't > currently show your Sugarcube menus. Were you able to ascertain whether > the change is akin to an explosion in a paint factory? Hi Would love to implement but I have no idea what changes are required to make it show up. Cheers www.spicefly.com - ** Spicefly SugarCube ** - A hassle free acoustic journey through your music library using MusicIP. Plus the finest MusicIP installation guides, enhanced MIP Interface and SpyGlass MIP the Windows Automated MusicIP Headless Installer. cparker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
mherger wrote: > > The Material skin seems to be hard coded from what I saw quickly in > the > > code. It doesn't seem to respect the standard > > Slim::Web::Pages->addPageLinks functions then all plugins that have > line > > items announce. If so it would appear but then I don't know the > impact > > of that which might be like an explosion in a paint factory. > > When it comes to interfacing with LMS, Material is technically closer to > > SqueezePlay than the web UI. It doesn't use web pages, but the menu > system used on the devices etc. You'd have to base your plugin on > Slim::Plugin::OPMLBased and provide hooks for those menus. > Charles, I'd like to see your Sugarcube menus while using the Material skin. I'm guessing if the change works for Material, then it would also work for iPeng and Squeeze Ctrl, both of which I also use and don't currently show your Sugarcube menus. Were you able to ascertain whether the change is akin to an explosion in a paint factory? prabbit's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11142 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
bakker_be wrote: > Any progress here? Thanks for asking. Unfortunately not. I tried every variations of the path description, but MIP and LMS wouldn't communicate properly. On Sunday I tried to install MIP directly on my Raspi. Until now without success, but I have still a few things to check and it seems that there's a problem for MIP to access my music. Weller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69877 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
Weller wrote: > Thanks! Sounds good. I tested various alternative settings including > swapping the paths and leaving the MusicIP path empty and got the same > error messages in the log. I have to check the paths again. I think I'm > making one really stupid mistake here. Any progress here? Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004 + TMA Premium 905 + TMA Premium 901 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 + BK Monolith+ FF + Lenovo T460 + Kodi + Pioneer PDP-LX5090H Workshop: iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Wherever needed: Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Kitchen: iPhone 5s + iPeng (local playback activated) + NAD 312 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 Headphone (cozy corner): Lenovo T550 + Squeezelite-X + Cyrus Soundkey + Topping A30 + Focal Elear Car: TBC ... bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
bakker_be wrote: > I don't have access to my LMS right now, but if I'm not mistaken you > have your paths inversed. > > Code: > > Built URL Request for MusicIP: > http://xxx.xxx.xxx.52:10002/api/mix?&sizetype=tracks&size=10&album%3d/home/pi/Music/Musik/Mod, Garage, Neo 6Ts/Young Fresh Fellows, The/1987_The Men Who Loved Music/Young Fresh Fellows, The - I Don't Let The Little Things Get Me Down.mp3&style=0&variety=0 > > > > Looking at this line, which is the URL for the MusicIP server, it will > never get you a file from your Windows machine to send back to your > Linux machine for subsequent translation. Just remove the URL-tags > from it, put back your IP-address and paste it in a browser on your > Windows machine, and you'll see it errors out as well, simply because > the cache doesn't contain this path reference ... Thanks! Sounds good. I tested various alternative settings including swapping the paths and leaving the MusicIP path empty and got the same error messages in the log. I have to check the paths again. I think I making one really stupid mistake here. Weller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69877 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
Weller wrote: > Thank you very much for your help! Highly appreciated! Everything went > fine, but I still get randomly chosen tracks only. I get an error > message on the Squeezebox display, that musicip API is not running. I > included a part of the log at the bottom of this post. > > > > I am using only Buster as OS and LMS on my Raspberry. Together with two > squeezeboxes and chromecasts. > > > > The aspect that Sugarcube is "genre-agnostic" is the one that interests > me most. > > Log: > Track Changed or Timer Fired > [20-02-24 21:01:49.7009] Plugins::SugarCube::Breakout::TrackTracker > (328) > Insert into Database Playing Track: > file:///home/pi/Music/Musik/Mod,%20Garage,%20Neo%206Ts/Young%20Fresh%20Fellows,%20The/1987_The%20Men%20Who%20Loved%20Music/Young%20Fresh%20Fellows,%20The%20-%20I%20Don%27t%20Let%20The%20Little%20Things%20Get%20Me%20Down.mp3 > [20-02-24 21:01:49.7342] Plugins::SugarCube::Plugin::buildMIPReq (583) > localmediapath Change Using;//xxx.xxx.xxx.61/home/pi/Music/Musik > [20-02-24 21:01:49.7349] Plugins::SugarCube::Plugin::buildMIPReq (584) > nasconvertpath Replace With;Z:\Musik\MP3\Musik > [20-02-24 21:01:49.7355] Plugins::SugarCube::Plugin::buildMIPReq (586) > Dynamic Change Using;\/\/xxx\.xxx\.xxx\.61\/home\/pi\/Music\/Musik > [20-02-24 21:01:49.7361] Plugins::SugarCube::Plugin::buildMIPReq (587) > Dynamic Replace With;Z:\Musik\MP3\Musik > [20-02-24 21:01:49.7368] Plugins::SugarCube::Plugin::buildMIPReq (588) > Original tracktitle;/home/pi/Music/Musik/Mod, Garage, Neo 6Ts/Young > Fresh Fellows, The/1987_The Men Who Loved Music/Young Fresh Fellows, The > - I Don't Let The Little Things Get Me Down.mp3 > [20-02-24 21:01:49.7374] Plugins::SugarCube::Plugin::buildMIPReq (590) > Converted tracktitle;/home/pi/Music/Musik/Mod, Garage, Neo 6Ts/Young > Fresh Fellows, The/1987_The Men Who Loved Music/Young Fresh Fellows, The > - I Don't Let The Little Things Get Me Down.mp3 > [20-02-24 21:01:49.7380] Plugins::SugarCube::Plugin::buildMIPReq (593) > localmediapath_2 Change Using; > [20-02-24 21:01:49.7387] Plugins::SugarCube::Plugin::buildMIPReq (594) > nasconvertpath_2 Replace With; > [20-02-24 21:01:49.7393] Plugins::SugarCube::Plugin::buildMIPReq (596) > Dynamic Change Using; > [20-02-24 21:01:49.7400] Plugins::SugarCube::Plugin::buildMIPReq (597) > Dynamic Replace With; > [20-02-24 21:01:49.7406] Plugins::SugarCube::Plugin::buildMIPReq (598) > Original tracktitle;/home/pi/Music/Musik/Mod, Garage, Neo 6Ts/Young > Fresh Fellows, The/1987_The Men Who Loved Music/Young Fresh Fellows, The > - I Don't Let The Little Things Get Me Down.mp3 > [20-02-24 21:01:49.7413] Plugins::SugarCube::Plugin::buildMIPReq (600) > Converted tracktitle;/home/pi/Music/Musik/Mod, Garage, Neo 6Ts/Young > Fresh Fellows, The/1987_The Men Who Loved Music/Young Fresh Fellows, The > - I Don't Let The Little Things Get Me Down.mp3 > [20-02-24 21:01:49.7419] Plugins::SugarCube::Plugin::buildMIPReq (607) > WINTEL LMS with LINUX MIP - PreTracktitle;/home/pi/Music/Musik/Mod, > Garage, Neo 6Ts/Young Fresh Fellows, The/1987_The Men Who Loved > Music/Young Fresh Fellows, The - I Don't Let The Little Things Get Me > Down.mp3 > [20-02-24 21:01:49.7427] Plugins::SugarCube::Plugin::ArrayLoop (669) > Built URL Request for MusicIP: > http://xxx.xxx.xxx.52:10002/api/mix?&sizetype=tracks&size=10&album%3d/home/pi/Music/Musik/Mod, > Garage, Neo 6Ts/Young Fresh Fellows, The/1987_The Men Who Loved > Music/Young Fresh Fellows, The - I Don't Let The Little Things Get Me > Down.mp3&style=0&variety=0 > > [20-02-24 21:01:49.7793] Plugins::SugarCube::Plugin::gotErrorContinue > (631) > MUSICIP FAILED > [20-02-24 21:01:49.7801] Plugins::SugarCube::Plugin::gotErrorContinue > (632) > MUSICIP RETURNED NOTHING > Check API Service is Running > [20-02-24 21:01:49.7808] Plugins::SugarCube::Plugin::gotErrorContinue > (633) > MUSICIP FAILED > [20-02-24 21:01:49.7834] Plugins::SugarCube::Plugin::gotErrorContinue > (635) > Keeping music playing requesting (from LMS) a Random Track matching the > Current Playing Tracks Genre > [20-02-24 21:01:49.7858] Plugins::SugarCube::Plugin::randompuller (486) > > LMS Reported Track Playing; > file:///home/pi/Music/Musik/Mod,%20Garage,%20Neo%206Ts/Young%20Fresh%20Fellows,%20The/1987_The%20Men%20Who%20Loved%20Music/Young%20Fresh%20Fellows,%20The%20-%20I%20Don%27t%20Let%20The%20Little%20Things%20Get%20Me%20Down.mp3 > [20-02-24 21:01:49.7879] Plugins::SugarCube::Plugin::randompuller (490) > > Currently Playing; > file:///home/pi/Music/Musik/Mod,%20Garage,%20Neo%206Ts/Young%20Fresh%20Fellows,%20The/1987_The%20Men%20Who%20Loved%20Music/Young%20Fresh%20Fellows,%20The%20-%20I%20Don%27t%20Let%20The%20Little%20Things%20Get%20Me%20Down.mp3 > [20-02-24 21:01:49.7886] Plugins::SugarCube::Plugin::randompuller (491) > > Currently Playing Genre; Garage > [20-02-24 21:01:49.7893] Plugins::SugarCube::Breakout::getRandom (20) > Get Random Track but block Artist 0 plus 0 plus 0 >
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
bakker_be wrote: > OK, you're now connected to the MusicIP server on your Windows machine, > let's take this a bit further now ;) > 1. Check if MusicIP is actually working for creating mixes: > -*_On_your_windows_machine_* go to > https://www.spicefly.com/article.php?page=spicefly-spyglass-mip > -Download & install the Spicefly Spyglass tool > -First check MusicIP GUI. You should get a similar result to this: > 29531 > -Now check MusicIP Headless. This is a "wrong" result: > 29532 > -To solve the "wrong headless result, go to "File -> MusicIP Headless > Service -> Install/Setup Headless Service" > and just accept defaults. Result should now be: > 29533 > -Go to > https://www.spicefly.com/article.php?page=musicip-headless-interface and > download the replacement interface > -Extract the downloaded zip-file to "C:\Program Files > (x86)\MusicIP\MusicIP Mixer\server" (64-bit windows) or "C:\Program > Files\MusicIP\MusicIP Mixer\server" (32-bit windows), overwriting the > existing file > -Go to"File -> MusicIP Headless Service -> Show MusicIP Headless Web > Page" > -On this page, click "Test Mix Creation". You should get something like > this: > 29536 2. What are you using on your Raspberry Pi? PicorePlayer or another Linux-based solution. If PicorePlayer, running MusicIP on it will be virtually impossible, as it's based on one of the "difficult" distributions to master ;) 3. When looking at the MusicIP GUI, add the columns "Status" & "Enabled" to your view. The result should be something like this: 29537 If all this is as it should be, the chances that you get "Random" results from MusicIP are vanishingly small in my experience. What you should know however is that by default MusicIP, and by extension Spicefly SugarCube is genre-agnostic. This means that if a metalcore band releases a purely acoustic track, that it could very well get mixed in along some of these https://www.guitarhabits.com/top-25-contemporary-singer-songwriter-acoustic-guitar-songs/ +---+ |Filename: Screenshot_231.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=29537| +---+ Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004 + TMA Premium 905 + TMA Premium 901 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 + BK Monolith+ FF + Lenovo T460 + Kodi + Pioneer PDP-LX5090H Workshop: iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Wherever needed: Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Kitchen: iPhone 5s + iPeng (local playback activated) + NAD 312 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 Headphone (cozy corner): Lenovo T550 + Squeezelite-X + Cyrus Soundkey + Topping A30 + Focal Elear Car: TBC ... bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
Weller wrote: > Thank you very much! Now I don't have the error messages anymore. But > Sugarcube still uses random tracks only. Maybe I should try to get > MusicIp running on my raspi... OK, you're now connected to the MusicIP server on your Windows machine, let's take this a bit further now ;) 1. Check if MusicIP is actually working for creating mixes: -*_On_your_windows_machine_* go to https://www.spicefly.com/article.php?page=spicefly-spyglass-mip -Download & install the Spicefly Spyglass tool -First check MusicIP GUI. You should get a similar result to this: 29531 -Now check MusicIP Headless. This is a "wrong" result: 29532 -To solve the "wrong headless result, go to "File -> MusicIP Headless Service -> Install/Setup Headless Service" and just accept defaults. Result should now be: 29533 -Go to https://www.spicefly.com/article.php?page=musicip-headless-interface and download the replacement interface -Extract the downloaded zip-file to "C:\Program Files (x86)\MusicIP\MusicIP Mixer\server" (64-bit windows) or "C:\Program Files\MusicIP\MusicIP Mixer\server" (32-bit windows), overwriting the existing file -Go to"File -> MusicIP Headless Service -> Show MusicIP Headless Web Page" -On this page, click "Test Mix Creation". You should get something like this: 29536 +---+ |Filename: Screenshot_230.png | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=29536| +---+ Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004 + TMA Premium 905 + TMA Premium 901 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 + BK Monolith+ FF + Lenovo T460 + Kodi + Pioneer PDP-LX5090H Workshop: iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Wherever needed: Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Kitchen: iPhone 5s + iPeng (local playback activated) + NAD 312 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 Headphone (cozy corner): Lenovo T550 + Squeezelite-X + Cyrus Soundkey + Topping A30 + Focal Elear Car: TBC ... bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
bakker_be wrote: > On top of that: if LMS is running on your Pi and MusicIP is running on > your Windows PC, localhost is absolutely wrong. You need to put in the > IP-address or hostname of your Windows PC. Thank you very much! Now I don't have the error messages anymore. But Sugarcube still uses random tracks only. Maybe I should try to get MusicIp running on my raspi... Weller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69877 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
Weller wrote: > Hi, > > Here's are problem I am dealing with for the last ten days: I am running > Music IP on my Win 10 Laptop withe Chrome browser and LMS with SugarCube > on Raspberry PI 4 4GB with Buster. My MP3s are on my Qnap NAS. Analyzing > my music mit MusicIP on my Laptop works fine and headless mode is > running as well. But if I try running SugarCube on LMS I get only > random tracks. If I look on the player settings, I see in some of the > dropdown menus the following error messages: 500 can't connect to > localhost 10002: (connect: Connection refused) > > Acoording to the troubleshooting section on spicefly.com I activated > debug mode and used this link to inspect the debug file: > "localhost/server.log?lines=1000". Here I get the error code > ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED. > > I read somewhere that this may be caused by the windows firewall, but > even with a temporarilly deactivated firewall I get the same results. > Are there any settings I forgot or I was unaware of in order to get > Spicefly running?Why not run MusicIP on your Pi? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
cparker wrote: > The connection settings are under the Advanced Tab -> Spicefly SugarCube > and not under the player menu as they are not player specific. > > You may need to use Dynamic Path Conversion if LMS and MIP headless are > running on separate machines, further details here; > > https://spicefly.com/article.php?page=spicefly-dynamic-path-conversion On top of that: if LMS is running on your Pi and MusicIP is running on your Windows PC, localhost is absolutely wrong. You need to put in the IP-address or hostname of your Windows PC. Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004 + TMA Premium 905 + TMA Premium 901 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 + BK Monolith+ FF + Lenovo T460 + Kodi + Pioneer PDP-LX5090H Workshop: iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Wherever needed: Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Kitchen: iPhone 5s + iPeng (local playback activated) + NAD 312 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 Headphone (cozy corner): Lenovo T550 + Squeezelite-X + Cyrus Soundkey + Topping A30 + Focal Elear Car: TBC ... bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
The connection settings are under the Advanced Tab -> Spicefly SugarCube and not under the player menu as they are not player specific. You may need to use Dynamic Path Conversion if LMS and MIP headless are running on separate machines, further details here; https://spicefly.com/article.php?page=spicefly-dynamic-path-conversion www.spicefly.com - ** Spicefly SugarCube ** - A hassle free acoustic journey through your music library using MusicIP. Plus the finest MusicIP installation guides, enhanced MIP Interface and SpyGlass MIP the Windows Automated MusicIP Headless Installer. cparker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
The Material skin seems to be hard coded from what I saw quickly in the code. It doesn't seem to respect the standard Slim::Web::Pages->addPageLinks functions then all plugins that have line items announce. If so it would appear but then I don't know the impact of that which might be like an explosion in a paint factory. When it comes to interfacing with LMS, Material is technically closer to SqueezePlay than the web UI. It doesn't use web pages, but the menu system used on the devices etc. You'd have to base your plugin on Slim::Plugin::OPMLBased and provide hooks for those menus. -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
frankd wrote: > Thanks CParker for the changes and also implementing my proposals to > expose the MusicIP Artist and Music Genre filters to the general device > settings menu similar to the MusicIP Filter filter... :-) > One more request, in particular using the material gui which has not all > functionalities of the general gui: would it be possible to add a switch > for "Don't Stop the Music" (settings per player) to implement the > sugarcube on off switch which is only accessible in the very > sophisticated original webgui??? > Maybe MHerger can help > Cheers The Material skin seems to be hard coded from what I saw quickly in the code. It doesn't seem to respect the standard Slim::Web::Pages->addPageLinks functions then all plugins that have line items announce. If so it would appear but then I don't know the impact of that which might be like an explosion in a paint factory. For the DSTM, what additional functionality would that add? SCube has had Dynamic Queuing since 2010 which will only queue a track if there is no next track in the playlist and release 5.01 will now ignore Spotify and all the previous streaming services I think were already covered. In terms of multi-genre I have no idea tbh. I have one genre per album (idv2.3 tags) which works well enough for my 30k library. I never listen to music other than via SCube/MusicIP apart from the occasional full album, so I don't really know how well it works or the caveats www.spicefly.com - ** Spicefly SugarCube ** - A hassle free acoustic journey through your music library using MusicIP. Plus the finest MusicIP installation guides, enhanced MIP Interface and SpyGlass MIP the Windows Automated MusicIP Headless Installer. cparker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
On topic. On my desktop with Squeezelite I use now the following SugarCube settings: SugarCube Mix Mode: Freestyle Mode FreeStyle Random Track Selection: Specific Yer Range (Strict) Random Mixing Start Year: 1985 Random Mixing End Year: 1995 FreeStyle Track Selection Type: Any Track (Default) FreeStyle Track Length Preference: Any Length (Disabled) SugarCube Enhancements Dynamic Queuing: Only Queue a New Track if Playing the last Track on the Playlist: On Block Artist Repeating for x Tracks: 5 Always Block Selected Artist: None Always Block this Genre: None Block Album Repeating for x Tracks: 100 Remember This Many Played Tracks: 100 @cparker Good that SugarCube sees my year tags (TDRC or TDOR?; ID3v2.4), so FreeStyle Mix works great. I find it strange that MusicIp Mixer 1.9 beta6 (Windows 10) does *not* see the year tags. Is that because I am working with ID3v2,4 or is it an known bug? *Squeezebox*: 1x Touch + 1x Radio *Squeezelite 1.9.0.1113*: 4x *Logitech Media Server*: Version: 7.9.2 - 1571226194 *Plugins*: Custom Skip v2.5.83; Database Query v2.4.3923; Dynamic Playlists v2.10.247Spicefly SugarCube v4.86; Trackstat v3.3.602 *NAS*: QNAP Turbostation TS-239 Pro II (1,6Ghz, 1GB); firmware 4.2.6 Build 20200109 ; QPKG LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2 *Tag*: MusicBrainz Picard 2.2.3 (Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS); Puddletag 1.2.0 (Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS) 'Last.fm' (www.last.fm/user/Wowotiel) wowo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18033 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
cparker wrote: > MusicIP doesn't handle multiple genres, the best I have is a workaround > that makes the last genre the dominate genre. Sad. But it is as it is.:) I am working now with the first genre as the dominate genre. For instance Ambient, Blues, Chanson, Christmas, Classical, Country, Cursus, Electronic, Fado, Flamenco, Folk, Hip-Hop, Indie, Jazz, Nature, Pop, NMIP (No Music IP), Other, Reggae, Rock, Rock and Roll, Samples, Ska, Soul, Soundtrack, Spoken Word, Toplist (oa Rolling Stone Magazine's 500 Greatest Songs Of All Time) World Music, Zydeco etc. etc. *Squeezebox*: 1x Touch + 1x Radio *Squeezelite 1.9.0.1113*: 4x *Logitech Media Server*: Version: 7.9.2 - 1571226194 *Plugins*: Custom Skip v2.5.83; Database Query v2.4.3923; Dynamic Playlists v2.10.247Spicefly SugarCube v4.86; Trackstat v3.3.602 *NAS*: QNAP Turbostation TS-239 Pro II (1,6Ghz, 1GB); firmware 4.2.6 Build 20200109 ; QPKG LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2 *Tag*: MusicBrainz Picard 2.2.3 (Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS); Puddletag 1.2.0 (Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS) 'Last.fm' (www.last.fm/user/Wowotiel) wowo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18033 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
mherger wrote: > > When I go to player setting in the web gui and I go to don't stop the > > music, I have the option to select musicIP, Lastmix, Random xxx and > all > > the other opportunities of online services, but not a way to switch > on > > and off spicefly sugarcube. It would be great to have there a > spicefly > > sugarcube option as well . Not sure if CParker has to implement it > (my > > guess) or if it is core to LMS > > That would be SugarCube's task. I can certainly help if there are > questions. > > -- > > Michael @CParker: This is on top of my wishlist for Sugarcube now :-) Also a big thank you for having implemented the other proposals I made in the past with the recently released version :-) frankd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52885 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
wowo wrote: > @cparker. > When I have tagged more Genres to a Music File Spicefly SugarCube, > MusicIP Mixer and MusicIP Headless Server only show the first Genre. > For instance: > I have files tagged with: NMIP\\Classical and also files with only the > NMIP tag. > In LMS webinterface I can see both the separate Genres: NIMP and > separate Classical > In Spicefly SugarCube, MusicIP Mixer and MusicIP Headless Server I could > only see the NMIP genre but not the Classical genre. > Is this normal behaviour? > Could MusicIP only handle the first genre? MusicIP doesn't handle multiple genres, the best I have is a workaround that makes the last genre the dominate genre. www.spicefly.com - ** Spicefly SugarCube ** - A hassle free acoustic journey through your music library using MusicIP. Plus the finest MusicIP installation guides, enhanced MIP Interface and SpyGlass MIP the Windows Automated MusicIP Headless Installer. cparker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
@cparker. When I have tagged more Genres to a Music File Spicefly SugarCube, MusicIP Mixer and MusicIP Headless Server only show the first Genre. For instance: I have files tagged with: NMIP\\Classical and also files with only the NMIP tag. In LMS webinterface I can see both the separate Genres: NIMP and separate Classical In Spicefly SugarCube, MusicIP Mixer and MusicIP Headless Server I could only see the NMIP genre but not the Classical genre. Is this normal behaviour? Could MusicIP only handle the first genre? *Squeezebox*: 1x Touch + 1x Radio *Squeezelite 1.9.0.1113*: 4x *Logitech Media Server*: Version: 7.9.2 - 1571226194 *Plugins*: Custom Skip v2.5.83; Database Query v2.4.3923; Dynamic Playlists v2.10.247Spicefly SugarCube v4.86; Trackstat v3.3.602 *NAS*: QNAP Turbostation TS-239 Pro II (1,6Ghz, 1GB); firmware 4.2.6 Build 20200109 ; QPKG LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2 *Tag*: MusicBrainz Picard 2.2.3 (Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS); Puddletag 1.2.0 (Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS) 'Last.fm' (www.last.fm/user/Wowotiel) wowo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18033 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
slartibartfast wrote: > A few years ago I did what you are doing and deliberately did not > analyse a lot of tracks in MusicIP but I found that every time I > performed a scan in LMS those unanalysed files were queried by the > MusicIP plugin causing long scan times. I ended up analysing all my > tracks and relying on filters in MusicIP to prevent the unwanted tracks > being used. > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?107955-Unanalysed-files-MusicIP&highlight=MusicIP > SugarCube doesn't use the MusicIP plugin you don't need it installed. It queries the MusicIP Web API directly so you don't need that scan. www.spicefly.com - ** Spicefly SugarCube ** - A hassle free acoustic journey through your music library using MusicIP. Plus the finest MusicIP installation guides, enhanced MIP Interface and SpyGlass MIP the Windows Automated MusicIP Headless Installer. cparker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
slartibartfast wrote: > A few years ago I did what you are doing and deliberately did not > analyse a lot of tracks in MusicIP but I found that every time I > performed a scan in LMS those unanalysed files were queried by the > MusicIP plugin causing long scan times. I ended up analysing all my > tracks and relying on filters in MusicIP to prevent the unwanted tracks > being used. > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?107955-Unanalysed-files-MusicIP&highlight=MusicIP > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk I have not notice your behaviour maybe your your setup is different. I do the analyzing of the Music Files on a Virtual Windows 10 OS (4 cores enabled): Total Songs: 32.214 Ready songs (mixable): 23.925 Unanalyzable songs: 15 After that I copy the default.m3lib to my _NAS_MusicIP_Headless_Server_. After adding the music path (adding tracks) I have: Total songs: 32.532 Mixable songs: 23.925 Songs to validate: 8.607 I do *not* touch the start validation button because everything was done correct on the Windows Machine. It does *not* change the amount of the mixable songs and it only uses a lot of RAM of my NAS. I never do a "new and changed" scan. If I have added a lot of music, I only use "Delete Collection and scan everything". The scanning time of my Nas is 1,5 hour (I do this during the night). *Squeezebox*: 1x Touch + 1x Radio *Squeezelite 1.9.0.1113*: 4x *Logitech Media Server*: Version: 7.9.2 - 1571226194 *Plugins*: Custom Skip v2.5.83; Database Query v2.4.3923; Dynamic Playlists v2.10.247Spicefly SugarCube v4.86; Trackstat v3.3.602 *NAS*: QNAP Turbostation TS-239 Pro II (1,6Ghz, 1GB); firmware 4.2.6 Build 20200109 ; QPKG LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2 *Tag*: MusicBrainz Picard 2.2.3 (Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS); Puddletag 1.2.0 (Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS) 'Last.fm' (www.last.fm/user/Wowotiel) wowo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18033 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
wowo wrote: > I have a collection of 2000 albums with 32.000 songs of 700 artists. > 20% of the songs are compilations of various artists: > Motown Hit series, De Pre Historie, TMF/Yorin/Radio 538 Hitzone, Dance > Classics series etc > Compilations of various artists I do *not* want in my mixes and also not > Classical, Jazz and Christmas Music. > The music I do not want in my mixes I have marked with the genre NIMP > (=No Music IP ;)) > I am a Linux user so I use Puddletag (Âsimilar as Mp3tag Windows) for > that. > For instance: Classical music I mark with the genres NMIP\\Classical (so > the first is always NMIP) > In MusicIP Mixer: > Preferences > Exclusions > DonÂt Analyze Songs Like This > Match any of > the following conditions: Genre contains NMIP > So all the music I do not want, are not analyzed by MusicIP Mixer and > are also not in my Spicefly SugarCube mixes. > > If you do want to analyze all your music you can use the genre tag NMIP > in Spicefly Sucarcube: > SugarCube Enhancements > Always Block this Genre: NMIP > > Spicefly SugarCube Settings: > If I do not like the mixes I change the settings :). > The settings for now: > SugarCube Mix Mode: Standard MusicIP > How much Mix Style: 200 > How much Mix Variety: 0 > Mix by Song or Album: Song > SugarCube Enhancements > Dynamic Queuing: Only Queue a New Track if Playing the last Track on the > Playlist: On > SugarCube Wobble: Medium Wobble (first 5) > Block Artist Repeating for x Tracks: 5 > Always Block Selected Artist: Elvis Costello ;) > (Always Block this Genre: NMIP) > Block Album Repeating for x Tracks: 100 > Remember This Many Played Tracks: 100 > > Spicefly Sugarcube settings plugin advanced: > Enable Delay Mode: 15 > Spicefly SugarCube Live View Width: 100 > Album Art Size in SugarCube Liveview: 100 > SugarCube Live View icon Position: 86 > SugarCube History Icon Position: 87 > MusicIP Request No. of Tracks: 10 > The following setting did never worked for me: > Enable Christmas Genre Block: Enable Christmas Genre Block > So I have marked all my Christmas Music with the genre tag > NMIP\\ChristmasA few years ago I did what you are doing and deliberately did > not analyse a lot of tracks in MusicIP but I found that every time I performed a scan in LMS those unanalysed files were queried by the MusicIP plugin causing long scan times. I ended up analysing all my tracks and relying on filters in MusicIP to prevent the unwanted tracks being used. https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?107955-Unanalysed-files-MusicIP&highlight=MusicIP Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
I have a collection of 2000 albums with 32.000 songs of 700 artists. 20% of the songs are compilations of various artists: Motown Hit series, De Pre Historie, TMF/Yorin/Radio 538 Hitzone, Dance Classics series etc Compilations of various artists I do *not* want in my mixes and also not Classical and Jazz Music. The music I do not want in my mixes I have marked with the genre NIMP (=No Music IP ;)) I am a Linux user so I use Puddletag (similar as Mp3tag Windows) for that. For instance: Classical music I mark with the genres NMIP\\Classical (so the first is always NMIP) In MusicIP Mixer: Preferences > Exclusions > Dont Analyze Songs Like This > Match any of the following conditions: Genre contains NMIP So all the music I do not want, are not analyzed by MusicIP Mixer and are also not in my Spicefly SugarCube mixes. If you do want to analyze all your music you can use the genre tag NMIP in Spicefly Sucarcube: SugarCube Enhancements > Always Block this Genre: NMIP *Squeezebox*: 1x Touch + 1x Radio *Squeezelite 1.9.0.1113*: 4x *Logitech Media Server*: Version: 7.9.2 - 1571226194 *Plugins*: Custom Skip v2.5.83; Database Query v2.4.3923; Dynamic Playlists v2.10.247Spicefly SugarCube v4.86; Trackstat v3.3.602 *NAS*: QNAP Turbostation TS-239 Pro II (1,6Ghz, 1GB); firmware 4.2.6 Build 20200109 ; QPKG LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2 *Tag*: MusicBrainz Picard 2.2.3 (Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS); Puddletag 1.2.0 (Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS) 'Last.fm' (www.last.fm/user/Wowotiel) wowo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18033 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
Thanks for the update to the plugin, and thanks for the settings suggestion. I've tuned up the "mix style" (similar to artist) to see if that changes things a bit. I have a large collection, but with 1/3 to 1/2 being compilations of tracks, and I wonder if that causes some issues with the mixing. Will see how that impacts the mixes, I previously had that set to 0 as I wasn't concerned about track to track being "like the artist". I've now got it set to MixStyle=150, and MixVariety=3, and MixBy=Song. I had dynamic mode, and most everything else disabled, or off. Anyone else have a "favorite" way to set musicip mixes? Next step, fixing the UI to change the Next/Previous track to the "proper" images, |< and >|, not << >>. Matt Drown's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69476 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
When I go to player setting in the web gui and I go to don't stop the music, I have the option to select musicIP, Lastmix, Random xxx and all the other opportunities of online services, but not a way to switch on and off spicefly sugarcube. It would be great to have there a spicefly sugarcube option as well . Not sure if CParker has to implement it (my guess) or if it is core to LMS That would be SugarCube's task. I can certainly help if there are questions. -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
Spicefly SugarCube Plugin config Spicefly SugarCube Live View Width 100 Album Art Size in SugarCube LiveView 125 SugarCube Live View Icon Position 1 SugarCube History Icon Position 3 Enable TrackStat un ticked MusicIP Request No. of Tracks 10 Enable Christmas Genre Block Ticked A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Seen sprayed on the outside wall of the local library - Three things I hate in life : 1. Vandalism 2. Irony 3. Lists Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
Matt Drown wrote: > > Hoping to get some people's favorite/default settings they use to listen > to music. Any suggestions would be welcome. > For player config - SugarCube Mix Mode : Standard MusicIP How much Mix Style : 170 How much Mix Variety : 3 Mix by Song or Album : Song then a whole lot of (None) Dynamic Queuing Ticked Block Artist Repeating for x Track : 5 a whole lot of (None) Block Album Repeating for x Tracks : 5 No Trackstat Defaults for the rest except Tracks to keep in Playlist View :202 A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Seen sprayed on the outside wall of the local library - Three things I hate in life : 1. Vandalism 2. Irony 3. Lists Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
mherger wrote: > >> One more request, in particular using the material gui which has not > all > >> functionalities of the general gui: would it be possible to add a > switch > >> for "Don't Stop the Music" (settings per player) to implement the > >> sugarcube on off switch which is only accessible in the very > >> sophisticated original webgui??? > > Could you please elaborate? > > -- > > Michael Thanks Michael for picking this up :-) When I go to player setting in the web gui and I go to don't stop the music, I have the option to select musicIP, Lastmix, Random xxx and all the other opportunities of online services, but not a way to switch on and off spicefly sugarcube. It would be great to have there a spicefly sugarcube option as well . Not sure if CParker has to implement it (my guess) or if it is core to LMS Cheers, Frank frankd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52885 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
One more request, in particular using the material gui which has not all functionalities of the general gui: would it be possible to add a switch for "Don't Stop the Music" (settings per player) to implement the sugarcube on off switch which is only accessible in the very sophisticated original webgui??? Could you please elaborate? -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
cparker wrote: > Hi > > I've just rolled v5.00 beta which has a new interface layout which > should make it less confusing. > > I recommend selecting -> Dynamic Queuing > NOT selecting -> MusicIP Vintage Mode > > The rest of the settings are personal taste :) > > Further details below, there are some quite fundamental changes and > fixes > > https://spicefly.com/article.php?page=spicefly-sugarcube-version-history > Thanks CParker for the changes and also implementing my proposals to > expose the MusicIP Artist and Music Genre filters to the general device > settings menu similar to the MusicIP Filter filter... :-) > One more request, in particular using the material gui which has not all > functionalities of the general gui: would it be possible to add a switch > for "Don't Stop the Music" (settings per player) to implement the > sugarcube on off switch which is only accessible in the very > sophisticated original webgui??? > Maybe MHerger can help > Cheers frankd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52885 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
Hi I've just rolled v5.00 beta which has a new interface layout which should make it less confusing. I recommend selecting -> Dynamic Queuing NOT selecting -> MusicIP Vintage Mode The rest of the settings are personal taste :) Further details below, there are some quite fundamental changes and fixes https://spicefly.com/article.php?page=spicefly-sugarcube-version-history www.spicefly.com - ** Spicefly SugarCube ** - A hassle free acoustic journey through your music library using MusicIP. Plus the finest MusicIP installation guides, enhanced MIP Interface and SpyGlass MIP the Windows Automated MusicIP Headless Installer. cparker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
Hey, about getting less "chaotic" results, I for one use MusicIP filters that you can then select in SugarCube's settings (on Player level) You could also try Recipes, ... about picking the first choice, have a look a the "SugarCube wobble" setting. HTH Stan Pulsar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6669 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?
I've got MusicIP server setup on centos box, with LMS running also. I've spent the horsepower saving musicip data into the 80k songs. And now I'm trying to configure plugins to do something useful. I've gotten past the technical hurdles of 64bit inodes, directory names, etc, I can get suggestions directly from the musicip server running, but there's a lot of knobs to tune, and trying to figure out some better docs on what they do to generate something a little less chaotic then Lords of Acid -> Ricky Martin -> Chemical Brothers. (It does seem to sort of work, I pick reggae, I get reggae suggestions, it's not random) I'm also testing out SugarCube and finding that it seems to generate a bunch of choices, then always picks the first one, and then keeps putting it in the playlist if I scan forward on the song, which does make testing entertaining. Is this normal? (I already spent too much time trying to go through the search function and the 75+ pages here on the forum post) Hoping to get some people's favorite/default settings they use to listen to music. Any suggestions would be welcome. (I haven't had a chance to install essentia/musly, they are on my todo list still) Matt Drown's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69476 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111549 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
