Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sirius keeps rebuffering

2015-03-17 Thread schmollywood

mherger wrote: 
> > I tried both to exactly the same effect. As far as I can tell the
> > biggest difference is that you are listening in the US and I live in
> > Germany. A while ago the Sirius app for Squeezebox radio has been
> > updated and at first the developer forgot to tweak some part of it to
> > enable it to work in Europe also. He then fixed that and since then
> > everything worked fine. Im assuming some changes must have been made
> > again in these past few days (maybe by Sirius) that affect listening
> > with the Squeezebox app in Europe without a problem. I hope this gets
> > fixed otherwise I can only listen on the Sirius iphone app or on my
> > laptop.
> 
> FWIW: the only change in our Sirius implementation which happened in the
> 
> past 3.5 years was a change to the SSL configuration. That was no 
> functional change.
> 
> Streams from music services usually go to the player directly, without 
> mysb.com being involved. If you were using LMS you could try to enable 
> its proxied streaming option which would send the audio stream through 
> LMS. This often improves streaming when there are minor networking 
> issues between your player and the streaming server.
> 
> Please keep in mind that SiriusXM is a US only service. It's very 
> possible that they don't have optimized _global_ infrastructure. The 
> fact that it might be working ok on your smartphone might be thanks to 
> its bigger memory (and thus bigger buffers).
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

The buffering problem suddenly stopped today so I believe it must have
been a problem on Sirius end...Thank you !



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sirius keeps rebuffering

2015-03-16 Thread Michael Herger

I tried both to exactly the same effect. As far as I can tell the
biggest difference is that you are listening in the US and I live in
Germany. A while ago the Sirius app for Squeezebox radio has been
updated and at first the developer forgot to tweak some part of it to
enable it to work in Europe also. He then fixed that and since then
everything worked fine. Im assuming some changes must have been made
again in these past few days (maybe by Sirius) that affect listening
with the Squeezebox app in Europe without a problem. I hope this gets
fixed otherwise I can only listen on the Sirius iphone app or on my
laptop.


FWIW: the only change in our Sirius implementation which happened in the 
past 3.5 years was a change to the SSL configuration. That was no 
functional change.


Streams from music services usually go to the player directly, without 
mysb.com being involved. If you were using LMS you could try to enable 
its proxied streaming option which would send the audio stream through 
LMS. This often improves streaming when there are minor networking 
issues between your player and the streaming server.


Please keep in mind that SiriusXM is a US only service. It's very 
possible that they don't have optimized _global_ infrastructure. The 
fact that it might be working ok on your smartphone might be thanks to 
its bigger memory (and thus bigger buffers).


--

Michael
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sirius keeps rebuffering

2015-03-16 Thread schmollywood

garym wrote: 
> here's the thread you're talking about.  Michael is a Logitech SB
> engineer (maybe the only one?).  
> 
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?102399-Sirius-XM-problem&p=796071&highlight=siriusxm#post796071

Thats him ! Ive already sent him a message Thank you !



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sirius keeps rebuffering

2015-03-16 Thread garym

garym wrote: 
> sorry, I can't recall that.  There was a patch to fix something in the
> siriusXM plugin (to fix the "playing stopped" problem, rather than any
> buffering issue). But I recall nothing about the app.  The app could
> ONLY be changed/fixed by a logitech employee or sirusXM employee.

here's the thread you're talking about.  Michael is a Logitech SB
engineer (maybe the only one?).  

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?102399-Sirius-XM-problem&p=796071&highlight=siriusxm#post796071



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sirius keeps rebuffering

2015-03-16 Thread schmollywood

garym wrote: 
> sorry, I can't recall that.  There was a patch to fix something in the
> siriusXM plugin (to fix the "playing stopped" problem, rather than any
> buffering issue). But I recall nothing about the app.  The app could
> ONLY be changed/fixed by a logitech employee or sirusXM employee.

When I said app I always meant the plugin ! Sorry



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sirius keeps rebuffering

2015-03-16 Thread garym

sorry, I can't recall that.  There was a patch to fix something in the
siriusXM plugin (to fix the "playing stopped" problem, rather than any
buffering issue). But I recall nothing about the app.  The app could
ONLY be changed/fixed by a logitech employee or sirusXM employee.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sirius keeps rebuffering

2015-03-16 Thread schmollywood

garym wrote: 
> what do you mean by updated siriusXM app?  There's the app in "my apps"
> on mysqueezebox.com.  That hasn't changed in many years.  There's the
> siriusXM plugin for LMS, but that is still version 1.0 and has never
> changed.  Nothing has ever indicated an update of any kind for me, but
> maybe that's because I'm in the US?
> 
> Logitech is out of the squeezebox player business and only seems to be
> dropping apps not adding apps. So not sure there is any "fix" coming.
> Once mysb.com shuts down, the siriusXM access is gone anyhow.

I wish I remember the guys name, but someone on this forum did actually
change the Sirius app on mysqueezebox.com a couple of months ago when
some people had problems with it after Sirius made some changes. While
he fixed it he forgot to code it to work in Europe too, but he wrote me
he didn't know that there were even Sirius listeners in Europe. He then
made the change and after he did everything worked fine again ! I also
remember de- and reinstalling the app to make it work. If I could just
remember the guys name



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sirius keeps rebuffering

2015-03-16 Thread garym

schmollywood wrote: 
> I tried both to exactly the same effect. As far as I can tell the
> biggest difference is that you are listening in the US and I live in
> Germany. A while ago the Sirius app for Squeezebox radio has been
> updated and at first the developer forgot to tweak some part of it to
> enable it to work in Europe also. He then fixed that and since then
> everything worked fine. Im assuming some changes must have been made
> again in these past few days (maybe by Sirius) that affect listening
> with the Squeezebox app in Europe without a problem. I hope this gets
> fixed otherwise I can only listen on the Sirius iphone app or on my
> laptop.

what do you mean by updated siriusXM app?  There's the app in "my apps"
on mysqueezebox.com.  That hasn't changed in many years.  There's the
siriusXM plugin for LMS, but that is still version 1.0 and has never
changed.  Nothing has ever indicated an update of any kind for me, but
maybe that's because I'm in the US?

Logitech is out of the squeezebox player business and only seems to be
dropping apps not adding apps. So not sure there is any "fix" coming.
Once mysb.com shuts down, the siriusXM access is gone anyhow.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sirius keeps rebuffering

2015-03-16 Thread schmollywood

garym wrote: 
> I'm out of ideas. The only difference between your setup and mine is
> that my SB players are connected to my local LMS.  Can you connect your
> radios to LMS running on a local PC/Mac and see if buffering is still
> there when connected to LMS rather than mysqueezebox.com?

I tried both to exactly the same effect. As far as I can tell the
biggest difference is that you are listening in the US and I live in
Germany. A while ago the Sirius app for Squeezebox radio has been
updated and at first the developer forgot to tweak some part of it to
enable it to work in Europe also. He then fixed that and since then
everything worked fine. Im assuming some changes must have been made
again in these past few days (maybe by Sirius) that affect listening
with the Squeezebox app in Europe without a problem. I hope this gets
fixed otherwise I can only listen on the Sirius iphone app or on my
laptop.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sirius keeps rebuffering

2015-03-16 Thread garym

schmollywood wrote: 
> well, every other station / stream works absolutely flawless on my
> Squeezebox Radios ( I actually have two) but any Sirius station does the
> rebuffering ever 20-30 seconds. Im connected to MySB.com . Its always
> been this way. The buffering suddenly started about 2-3 days ago. Ive
> tried over and over since then to no success.

I'm out of ideas. The only difference between your setup and mine is
that my SB players are connected to my local LMS.  Can you connect your
radios to LMS running on a local PC/Mac and see if buffering is still
there when connected to LMS rather than mysqueezebox.com?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sirius keeps rebuffering

2015-03-16 Thread schmollywood

garym wrote: 
> I'm still doubtful that this is a logitech issue. I listened to SiriusXM
> (2 different channels) for at least 4 hours straight yesterday with no
> buffering or dropouts. One thing I suggest is rebooting your router
> (unplug, wait a minute, then replug router).  This can sometimes clear
> up some DNS issues, and these DNS issues affect squeezeboxes but not
> other things connected to your network, such as your laptop.
> 
> Is your radio connected to mysqueezebox.com or to LMS running on a local
> PC/Mac/NAS?


well, every other station / stream works absolutely flawless on my
Squeezebox Radios ( I actually have two) but any Sirius station does the
rebuffering ever 20-30 seconds. Im connected to MySB.com . Its always
been this way. The buffering suddenly started about 2-3 days ago. Ive
tried over and over since then to no success.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sirius keeps rebuffering

2015-03-16 Thread garym

schmollywood wrote: 
> Unfortunately its not the Wifi strength. The signal is 100% just iike it
> has always been. The wifi channels also havent changed, there are no
> interferences AND any other stream except for the ones coming through
> the SiriusXM app are 100% fine ! No interruption whatsoever. I noticed
> that when switching to SiriusXM on my Squeezebox radio it briefly shows
> the message "Connection reset by local host " . So there is definately
> something else going on I really hope Logitech support has some
> solution 

I'm still doubtful that this is a logitech issue. I listened to SiriusXM
(2 different channels) for at least 4 hours straight yesterday with no
buffering or dropouts. One thing I suggest is rebooting your router
(unplug, wait a minute, then replug router).  This can sometimes clear
up some DNS issues, and these DNS issues affect squeezeboxes but not
other things connected to your network, such as your laptop.

Is your radio connected to mysqueezebox.com or to LMS running on a local
PC/Mac/NAS?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sirius keeps rebuffering

2015-03-15 Thread schmollywood

Unfortunately its not the Wifi strength. The signal is 100% just iike it
has always been. The wifi channels also havent changed, there are no
interferences AND any other stream except for the ones coming through
the SiriusXM app are 100% fine ! No interruption whatsoever. I noticed
that when switching to SiriusXM on my Squeezebox radio it briefly shows
the message "Connection reset by local host " . So there is definately
something else going on I really hope Logitech support has some
solution 



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sirius keeps rebuffering

2015-03-15 Thread garym

schmollywood wrote: 
> Anybody else experiencing the constant re-buffering of SiriusXM in the
> past 2 days on Squeezebox radio ? The stream will play for about 30
> seconds then in needs to fill the buffer again. Haven't had a problem
> before. My iphone Sirius App plays just finde if connected to the same
> home network and so does the stream using my laptop. The only device
> with this problem is Squeezebox radio ...

I'm not having the buffering issue. I'm in the US. This morning I
listened to SiriusXM for over an hour (via transporter and Radio) and
all worked perfectly.  I suspect there is a problem with the network
connection *between your LAN and the Radio*. Is the radio wifi
connected?  What is the strength. Even if strength is good (say, > 70%),
you could still have interference from other things on that WIFI
channel, so you might want to change the WIFI channel in your router.



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[SlimDevices: Plugins] Sirius keeps rebuffering

2015-03-15 Thread schmollywood

Anybody else experiencing the constant re-buffering of SiriusXM in the
past 2 days on Squeezebox radio ? The stream will play for about 30
seconds then in needs to fill the buffer again. Haven't had a problem
before. My iphone Sirius App plays just finde if connected to the same
home network and so does the stream using my laptop. The only device
with this problem is Squeezebox radio ...



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