Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sonos iPad app (free)
pippin;579829 Wrote: > Uh? What's so difficult in setting up Moose? ok, now I accidentally found a download of Moose (0.73) for Windows, and managed to set it up to control a server, which is on a different computer. There is no sign of spotify anywhere in Moose although spotify works quite well from server or from squeezeremote. The whole point was to find a controlling software that is good for handling an endless library. Without spotify the squeezeremote is ok. -- Mart1 Mart1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34654 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82313 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sonos iPad app (free)
pippin;579849 Wrote: > I believe Logitech doesn't really see Sonos as a competitor since they > are after a different market. How can Logitech fail to see Sonos and Squeezebox as direct, head-to-head competitors? Anyone (barring millionaires and perhaps audiophiles)looking for a digital music solution for their home basically have two options: Sonos and Squeeze. One may have advantages in some respects and the other in other respects. But they are similar enough in functionality and price to be direct competitors!! As far as I can see, Logitech is squandering away their purchase. As far as I remember there have only been two items of news regarding Squeeze within the last year: Touch was finally released and Wimp made an agreement for streaming to SB in Norway. Oh yeah and Radio got a white cabinet for one production round. How long can the product line remain in top two with that kind of effort? Sorry to so negative, but I'm really loosing faith. -- Muele BR Mogens 2 Radios (1 battery), 2 Controllers, 2 Receivers, 1 Squeezeplay. Served by an old 800 mhz IBM T21 Thinkpad (Yes I know most phones have more cpu-power these days, but it gets the job done). Muele's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21310 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82313 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sonos iPad app (free)
>Sonos got some good press this morning (if you consider Engadget and >Gizmodo to be press) on their new free iPad app. > And today I notice that Sonos have an official plugin for Spotify; it's plastered all over the Spotify website: http://www.spotify.com/uk/blog/archives/2010/09/29/sonos-2/?utm_source=Spotify&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=sept_news That will attract a lot of new customers to Sonos, who currently use Spotify. Phil ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sonos iPad app (free)
bluegaspode;579972 Wrote:
>
> maybe right now is the right spot to give those guys some hints about
> what to write else in a press release.
>
I bet we could give them a lot of hints, the problem is that we (or at
least I) don't have any clue who to send the hints to. I'm pretty sure
they don't pickup marketing ideas from this forum, so just posting it
here doesn't help.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sonos iPad app (free)
Yeah - you are right. Just thought that maybe right now some marketing guys sit down and think on how to react on Sonos being on the news all the time with their new App. As they don't have any new news :D ... maybe right now is the right spot to give those guys some hints about what to write else in a press release. Dreaming ... -- bluegaspode Big Screen for great Boxes available now at your AppStore: *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com) *! Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? => why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? => why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) Setup: 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 2xSB-Radio Server (7.5.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82313 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sonos iPad app (free)
bluegaspode;579832 Wrote:
> Maybe Logitech takes the chance of a press release.
>
> Underlining the openness of the platform, the huge positive impact this
> has on extending your system.
> This includes third party plugins as well as a nice selection of
> iPhone/iPad/Android Apps (even if payed) for much less than a Sonos
> system.
>
> "Logitech market leader in affordable music streaming solutions today
> announces the availability of x iPhone/iPad Apps. The user can choose
> which design fits him best and is not bound to design decisions of
> single developers or the company ... bla bla"
>
> I'm no marketing guy - but with this snippet as an idea one could write
> a big good sounding press release as an answer to Sonos.
>
This would be great but unfortunately I suspect there isn't anyone
within Logitech marketing/management that sees the potential with third
party stuff. They have this great asset in an active third party
community and they don't show much interest to keep it active.
The Logitech developers cares a lot and probably also MickeyG but
besides that I have barely seen any indication that anyone else cares
since Sean/Dean left the company.
It's not about money because they could do a lot to encourage third
party contributions without spending a lot of money, they would even
benefit from it themselves by selling more hardware and also make it
more interesting for third parties to contribute. I'm pretty sure the
problem is that they haven't understood the potential with third party
stuff. Remember that before the Slim Devices purchase Logitech wasn't
really used to working with third party developers/contributors. Back
then I thought the purchase was strategic and a main reason was the
community based development model, but I'm not so sure anymore.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sonos iPad app (free)
pippin;579829 Wrote:
> Uh? What's so difficult in setting up Moose?
>
Nothing at all besides that new users don't know it exists.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sonos iPad app (free)
pippin;579803 Wrote: > The main thing I hate about it is how it keeps asking you what to do all > the time. I'm a bit of an impatient guy and this is not for me. That's one of them and the other is having to tell it what you want docked and what you want to use in the connected department. Maybe I am just spoiled by iPeng with it finding everything and all I have to do is use it as a Controller while enjoying the music. I also didn't care for how crowded some things seemed or how far I had to drill down on other things. Again probably spoiled by iPeng. I think the one weak thing about it was not enough consumer user feedback yet. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82313 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sonos iPad app (free)
Hush, will you stop give Logitech reasons not to start a press release mentioning third party plugins and Apple+Android Apps ... ;) -- bluegaspode Big Screen for great Boxes available now at your AppStore: *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com) *! Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? => why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? => why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) Setup: 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 2xSB-Radio Server (7.5.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82313 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sonos iPad app (free)
I believe Logitech doesn't really see Sonos as a competitor since they are after a different market. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82313 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sonos iPad app (free)
pippin;579836 Wrote: > If they had only the slightest idea about marketing they would already > have done this 18 months ago... So now they have a new chance :D. Logitech - make the world talk about Squeezeboxes again and not Sonos! -- bluegaspode Big Screen for great Boxes available now at your AppStore: *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com) *! Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? => why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? => why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) Setup: 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 2xSB-Radio Server (7.5.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82313 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sonos iPad app (free)
bluegaspode;579832 Wrote: > > I'm no marketing guy - but with this snippet as an idea one could write > a big good sounding press release as an answer to Sonos. If they had only the slightest idea about marketing they would already have done this 18 months ago... -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82313 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sonos iPad app (free)
Mark Miksis;579807 Wrote: > It would be great (and help all involved) if Logitech could help broker > such a discussion. Maybe Logitech takes the chance of a press release. Underlining the openness of the platform, the huge positive impact this has on extending your system. This includes third party plugins as well as a nice selection of iPhone/iPad/Android Apps (even if payed) for much less than a Sonos system. "Logitech market leader in affordable music streaming solutions today announces the availability of x iPhone/iPad Apps. The user can choose which design fits him best and is not bound to design decisions of single developers or the company ... bla bla" I'm no marketing guy - but with this snippet as an idea one could write a big good sounding press release as an answer to Sonos. -- bluegaspode Big Screen for great Boxes available now at your AppStore: *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com) *! Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? => why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? => why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) Setup: 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 2xSB-Radio Server (7.5.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82313 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sonos iPad app (free)
Uh? What's so difficult in setting up Moose? -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82313 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sonos iPad app (free)
The only pc applications I can find seem to be pretty old versions with not so flashy interfaces, nothing comparable to iPeng or Squeezepad, and you have to be a programmer to install them. So when you get tired of trying to build playlists or do searches with the controller, and you want an easy to use graphical interface on a pc-based pad or laptop, what do you do? -- Mart1 Mart1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34654 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82313 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sonos iPad app (free)
pippin;579760 Wrote: > They usually don't care if it's not coming from a big company. It would be great (and help all involved) if Logitech could help broker such a discussion. -- Mark Miksis Mark Miksis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=529 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82313 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sonos iPad app (free)
iPhone;579768 Wrote: > Its fairly good. I got to mess with it for about 15 minutes at CEDIA. > There were one or two things I wasn't crazy about, but it was mainly > due to how they have to do some things. The main thing I hate about it is how it keeps asking you what to do all the time. I'm a bit of an impatient guy and this is not for me. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82313 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sonos iPad app (free)
JJZolx;579762 Wrote: > I've also heard that their iPhone app is better than iPeng. Since I've > never used either, I was wondering what would make it better? Is it > due to the fact that it was developed in-house, so they could get > better support from the server backend? Its fairly good. I got to mess with it for about 15 minutes at CEDIA. There were one or two things I wasn't crazy about, but it was mainly due to how they have to do some things. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Wood Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1, Vandersteen V2W Subwoofer Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Squeezebox BOOM Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82313 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sonos iPad app (free)
Maybe I should elaborate. I'm serious about this. I also don't say iPeng is better. The two apps are different in some respects and to a certain degree they reflect the different systems they are made for. The Sonos app may be a bit more simple to understand in the first place and multiple-player handling may still have an edge but there are also aspects where it completely sucks such as playlist building and digging through your library (you have to re-start again each time you need to go to NowPlaying). It also has a very deep menu structure. Graphics is also not really a strong point of the Sonos app, the covers you gat are tiny. I'm particularly disappointed about the iPad version, they make very bad use of the screen space, IMHO, but that may be a personal taste thing, I think similarly about SqueezePad in that respect. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82313 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sonos iPad app (free)
It isn't. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82313 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sonos iPad app (free)
I've also heard that their iPhone app is better than iPeng. Since I've never used either, I was wondering what would make it better? Is it due to the fact that it was developed in-house, so they could get better support from the server backend? -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82313 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Sonos iPad app (free)
They usually don't care if it's not coming from a big company. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82313 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
