Re: [VOTE] Move POI to TLP
+1. On 5/4/07, Nick Burch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All After lots of discussion within POI, and Jakarta in general, we think POI is ready to graduate to its own TLP. Thanks to the magic of ApacheCon, lots of people have been on-hand to help finalise the proposal for this, which is attached below. So, now is the time to vote on the proposal: [ ] +1 I support the proposal [ ] +0 I don't care [ ] -1 I'm opposed to the proposal because... Voting will close in one week. Cheers Nick WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to the continued implementation of the library for manipulating files in various business formats currently known as Apache POI for distribution at no charge to the public. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache POI Project, be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache POI Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to creation and maintenance of open-source software and documentation related to the POI library based on software licensed to the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, POI be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache POI Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache POI Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the POI PMC: * Nick Burch [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Amol S. Deshmukh [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Jason Height [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Marc Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Rainer Klute [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Yegor Kozlov [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Danny Muid [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Avik Sengupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Glen Stampoultzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Sean Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Nick Burch be appointed to the office of Vice President, POI, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache POI sub-project and encumbered upon the Apache Jakarta PMC are hereafter discharged. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
Re: Fixing the source headers
Turned out to be a pretty simple regexp change; so that's done for many of the files. I had to run dos2unix on a few to fix them, hopefully that wasn't a problem. There are a few ASL 1.1 files in src/java/org/apache/poi/hssf/record/formula/ . Is that intended? Same for src/resources/devtools/poi.jin if anyone is using that. Hen On 12/19/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Started to do this today and had to take a step back - the POI header style isn't catered for by the script. So I'll have to do some scripting etc. Board meeting tomorrow - so I'll hit this again in a few days (or next Tuesday at the latest). Hen On 12/19/06, Avik Sengupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The commit message has come thru, [EMAIL PROTECTED] should now be allowed. Thanks again! Quoting Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I made a fix to the DOAP file to test that (had to add svnadmins as rw to poi as the 'new' Jakarta perms meant that svnadmins couldn't write to the dir :) ). Hen On 12/17/06, Avik Sengupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It wouldn't, as far as I'm concerned. Not sure if you apache address is allowed on the list, please ping me when you commit, in case I miss the moderation mail among all the spam. Thanks for the offer, much appreciated. Regards - Avik Quoting Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Would it be a problem if I went through and modified the source headers and NOTICE as per: http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html ? Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
Re: Fixing the source headers
Started to do this today and had to take a step back - the POI header style isn't catered for by the script. So I'll have to do some scripting etc. Board meeting tomorrow - so I'll hit this again in a few days (or next Tuesday at the latest). Hen On 12/19/06, Avik Sengupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The commit message has come thru, [EMAIL PROTECTED] should now be allowed. Thanks again! Quoting Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I made a fix to the DOAP file to test that (had to add svnadmins as rw to poi as the 'new' Jakarta perms meant that svnadmins couldn't write to the dir :) ). Hen On 12/17/06, Avik Sengupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It wouldn't, as far as I'm concerned. Not sure if you apache address is allowed on the list, please ping me when you commit, in case I miss the moderation mail among all the spam. Thanks for the offer, much appreciated. Regards - Avik Quoting Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Would it be a problem if I went through and modified the source headers and NOTICE as per: http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html ? Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
Re: Fixing the source headers
I made a fix to the DOAP file to test that (had to add svnadmins as rw to poi as the 'new' Jakarta perms meant that svnadmins couldn't write to the dir :) ). Hen On 12/17/06, Avik Sengupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It wouldn't, as far as I'm concerned. Not sure if you apache address is allowed on the list, please ping me when you commit, in case I miss the moderation mail among all the spam. Thanks for the offer, much appreciated. Regards - Avik Quoting Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Would it be a problem if I went through and modified the source headers and NOTICE as per: http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html ? Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
Fixing the source headers
Would it be a problem if I went through and modified the source headers and NOTICE as per: http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html ? Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
Re: [VOTE] Another alpha release?
Plus there's been a release already. alpha-3 in: http://people.apache.org/repo/m1-ibiblio-rsync-repository/poi/jars/ I suspect that the alpha-2 release was dodgy too. Hen On 12/14/06, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I miss a couple of things here : 1) A VOTE RESULT (with cc to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) which contains an overview who voted and who has binding votes. 2) The ability to check the release before it was released (to see all is in place the way it should) - To increase visibility a release, you can also send a mail to announcements@jakarta.apache.org Although I will not moderate through 3 until 1 has happened and I had time for 2. If you need any help, let me know. Mvgr, Martin Nick Burch wrote: Hi All It's now about 6 months since our last alpha release, 3.0-alpha2. There's been quite a bit of new functionality added to HSLF, and bug fixes to HSSF and HWPF. So, I think a new release is probably in order. Asking around, it seems that people are planning some new features early in the new year, and a bit refactoring too (mainly in HSLF). Based on that, I think we should probably make this release another alpha one, then give serious thought to doing a beta release in Feb / March, when the new features are in. However, I wouldn't object to calling this one a beta, if people think that'd be better. So, could people vote, and include any thoughts they might have too? The options are: +1a - release as alpha +1b - release as beta 0 - I don't have a strong opinion either way -1 - I don't think we should do a release now I'm voting [+1a]. Voting will last for 1 week. (As with all Apache release votes, the votes of everyone are taken account of, but only PMC members have binding votes) Nick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
Re: poi.apache.org commentary
On 7/13/06, Nick Burch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2 Jul 2006, Nick Burch wrote: What does everyone else think? Anyone? I think the main thing is: do we think committers should be allowed to vote on new releases and new committers? At the moment, committers aren't also PMC members, so we don't have that. If we think we should have, we need to move to our own TLP, and make all committers automatically PMC members. Any thoughts on this? Currently your new committer vote and any official releases look like they're going to be blocked due to a lack of voting PMC members. Personally I'd like all Jakarta committers to automatically be on the PMC, but that'll take a long time to get consensus on. Given that and POI's legal worries concerning NDAs, I think poi.apache.org will be a lot simpler than being an independent island within Jakarta. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
Re: Top level project status
On 3/12/06, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/OneCommunityProposals There is a pretty active core (primarily out of the commons crowd) that want to remake Jarkarta in Commons's image (my perception). Pretty radical but they go as far as even combining mail lists. I don't think that would be healthy for us at all. Regretfully I think we should discuss the merits of promotion to top level project status. Andy's got the wrong end of the stick by the way. There is one person pushing to remake Jakarta in Commons's image, and that is me. What I'm really trying to do is tear down the failed umbrella and come up with something new to live under the name Jakarta, rather than just ending up with a day when I'm the last person in the building and I turn the light off. I've posted on the subproject for the last 3-6 months. The rest of what you see is the Jakarta community at work - not an active core. My general view is that we are all part of the Jakarta community. You are Jakarta committers - not POI committers. That is how a healthy project views itself. We're always going to be umbrella-like, but we can be umbrella-like with a 1-tier depth, not a 4-tier depth (Jakarta Commons Collections Subcomponent) is our potential max-depth - failing that it's 3-tier depth. I plan to -1 any such radical measures. If you're not on general@jakarta.apache.org list, then you may be like Wha? What is he talking about. I sugest you join and potentially ask for a recap. Please do join in - [EMAIL PROTECTED] is where the Jakarta community discuss things, and you are Jakarta committers. Andy says in a later email: I know most folks hate to mix it up there ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and I don't think you have to. This is the main problem we have. If everybody is of this view, then we are all committers for our subprojects and not Jakarta committers. In that case - what is the point of Jakarta existing? Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
Reminder to subscribe to general@
We're discussing various ideas and thoughts on restructuring Jakarta on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. On the off chance that someone isn't subscribed to the general@jakarta.apache.org mailing list, I thought I'd drop an email to each of the -dev mailing lists so they have a chance to be involved. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
Re: cvs-svn migration complete
On 12/16/05, Nick Burch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 3 Dec 2005, Henri Yandell wrote: Let me know if you have any problems, Anyone else having problems committing via svn, or is it just me? Looks like Jason Height is having the same problem. I just checked it out and could commit; though I get there via the svnadmin group rather than jakarta-poi. Looking at asf-authorization, it's obvious what I screwed up. Nothing there to tie the jakarta-poi group to the jakarta/poi directory. Ack, sorry :( That's fixed now, so I believe it should now work. Sorry I made such a braindead mistake, and that it took so long for me to figure out why. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
Re: cvs-svn migration complete
On 12/16/05, Nick Burch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 3 Dec 2005, Henri Yandell wrote: Let me know if you have any problems, Anyone else having problems committing via svn, or is it just me? I can checkout just fine, it just doesn't like my username and password when I try to commit (which I know are right, as I use them to get to committers repository) If it's only me, I'll just have to go smile sweetly at infrastructure... Probably me over there anyway :) Have you ever managed to commit to poi? 'nick' is in the jakarta-poi group. the committers bit means you've run svnpasswd successfully; so it's odd. I Npresume you're checking out with SSL right? Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
Re: cvs-svn migration complete
Yep. It's read-only now. Still viewable through viewcvs. On 12/4/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, Henri, for doing all the hard work. Has the CVS been locked for further edits? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
cvs-svn migration complete
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/poi svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/poi/trunk jakarta-poi Same list of committers as in cvs obviously. Commit emails goto [EMAIL PROTECTED] as before. Let me know if you have any problems, Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
Re: Infrastructure, CVS, SVN, publishing
Cool. I'll redo the test migration today sometime to make sure there were no surprises. This Saturday, 20:00 US/Eastern, I'll do the migration to the live ASF repository. It starts with CVS becoming read-only, then the CPU's churn for a while, then I hook up the authorization and email and email the list to say we're done. Usually done within the hour, or two hours if there are a lot of commits. Hen On 11/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: go for it. Henri Yandell wrote: ping? On 11/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm out of town at the moment and I'd really like to be around. If ya'll can do it without me (+0) then cool. If not then I'll be home hopefully next week. Henri Yandell wrote: First week of November is here :) Hen On 9/25/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are a couple of ongoing branches. I'd like to schedule this for the first week of November. This should give us ample time to deal with problems without interfering with any merges. We'll of course want our history preserved, etc, etc. -andy This will all end in tears...I just know it. Henri Yandell wrote: Ping. SVN time? On 8/20/05, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a chance? (yeah, I'm a persistent bastard sometimes :) ). There's something wonderfully cathartic about doing svn migrations; relatively simple effort timewise for a quick 'remove another project from the list' achievement. Not sure what I'll do in 2006. Hen On 8/13/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: alright I'll give it a try...give me a little bit. I have to write a presentation fo monday and take a little 2-day trip to chicago. -Andy Henri Yandell wrote: How odd. (It's an OS X install system Rainer). The prebuilt binary option is always there: http://metissian.com/projects/macosx/subversion/ It's for 10.3, so unsure if there are 10.4 problems or anything. I quit OS X at 10.3 :( Hen On 8/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: latest blasted fink seems to have dropped SVN... Glen Stampoultzis wrote: I like it alright. Henri Yandell wrote: Any thoughts on this? Painful to use, nice, too fast/slow/lime-flavoured? Hen On 7/24/05, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Test version of SVN:jakarta/poi setup. The only thing non-standard I did was to specify that filenames/comments were --encoding=latin1 rather than the default of ascii. It hit problems with some of the poi files with the ascii default. http://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/poi (check branches and tags look good). svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/poi/trunk/ For test repositories, there's no ViewCVS, no email notification and the authentication is either wide-open or wide-open for all ASF committers (I forget which). Let me know what you think. Hen On 7/19/05, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be good (a test respository) and access so that committers can dink with it. Thanks, Andy Henri Yandell wrote: On 7/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This means we'll actually have to start the SVN migration. I'll start getting it set up on my machine and offering committers the chance to play with it. Lets plan our migration in September or October at the latest. I know a number of people have some on going long CVS threads that would be a pain to merge into SVN if we went before then. We can use the ASF test repo to give committers the chance to play if you want, saves you having to figure out the server-side etc. I'm able to do migrations nowadays so can have a test SVN repo available whenever. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ -- Andrew C. Oliver SuperLink Software, Inc. Java to Excel using POI http://www.superlinksoftware.com/services/poi Commercial support including features added/implemented, bugs fixed. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi
Re: Infrastructure, CVS, SVN, publishing
ping? On 11/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm out of town at the moment and I'd really like to be around. If ya'll can do it without me (+0) then cool. If not then I'll be home hopefully next week. Henri Yandell wrote: First week of November is here :) Hen On 9/25/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are a couple of ongoing branches. I'd like to schedule this for the first week of November. This should give us ample time to deal with problems without interfering with any merges. We'll of course want our history preserved, etc, etc. -andy This will all end in tears...I just know it. Henri Yandell wrote: Ping. SVN time? On 8/20/05, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a chance? (yeah, I'm a persistent bastard sometimes :) ). There's something wonderfully cathartic about doing svn migrations; relatively simple effort timewise for a quick 'remove another project from the list' achievement. Not sure what I'll do in 2006. Hen On 8/13/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: alright I'll give it a try...give me a little bit. I have to write a presentation fo monday and take a little 2-day trip to chicago. -Andy Henri Yandell wrote: How odd. (It's an OS X install system Rainer). The prebuilt binary option is always there: http://metissian.com/projects/macosx/subversion/ It's for 10.3, so unsure if there are 10.4 problems or anything. I quit OS X at 10.3 :( Hen On 8/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: latest blasted fink seems to have dropped SVN... Glen Stampoultzis wrote: I like it alright. Henri Yandell wrote: Any thoughts on this? Painful to use, nice, too fast/slow/lime-flavoured? Hen On 7/24/05, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Test version of SVN:jakarta/poi setup. The only thing non-standard I did was to specify that filenames/comments were --encoding=latin1 rather than the default of ascii. It hit problems with some of the poi files with the ascii default. http://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/poi (check branches and tags look good). svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/poi/trunk/ For test repositories, there's no ViewCVS, no email notification and the authentication is either wide-open or wide-open for all ASF committers (I forget which). Let me know what you think. Hen On 7/19/05, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be good (a test respository) and access so that committers can dink with it. Thanks, Andy Henri Yandell wrote: On 7/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This means we'll actually have to start the SVN migration. I'll start getting it set up on my machine and offering committers the chance to play with it. Lets plan our migration in September or October at the latest. I know a number of people have some on going long CVS threads that would be a pain to merge into SVN if we went before then. We can use the ASF test repo to give committers the chance to play if you want, saves you having to figure out the server-side etc. I'm able to do migrations nowadays so can have a test SVN repo available whenever. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ -- Andrew C. Oliver SuperLink Software, Inc. Java to Excel using POI http://www.superlinksoftware.com/services/poi Commercial support including features added/implemented, bugs fixed. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ . -- Andrew C. Oliver SuperLink Software, Inc. Java to Excel using POI http://www.superlinksoftware.com/services/poi Commercial support including features added/implemented, bugs fixed. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi
Re: Infrastructure, CVS, SVN, publishing
Ping. SVN time? On 8/20/05, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a chance? (yeah, I'm a persistent bastard sometimes :) ). There's something wonderfully cathartic about doing svn migrations; relatively simple effort timewise for a quick 'remove another project from the list' achievement. Not sure what I'll do in 2006. Hen On 8/13/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: alright I'll give it a try...give me a little bit. I have to write a presentation fo monday and take a little 2-day trip to chicago. -Andy Henri Yandell wrote: How odd. (It's an OS X install system Rainer). The prebuilt binary option is always there: http://metissian.com/projects/macosx/subversion/ It's for 10.3, so unsure if there are 10.4 problems or anything. I quit OS X at 10.3 :( Hen On 8/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: latest blasted fink seems to have dropped SVN... Glen Stampoultzis wrote: I like it alright. Henri Yandell wrote: Any thoughts on this? Painful to use, nice, too fast/slow/lime-flavoured? Hen On 7/24/05, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Test version of SVN:jakarta/poi setup. The only thing non-standard I did was to specify that filenames/comments were --encoding=latin1 rather than the default of ascii. It hit problems with some of the poi files with the ascii default. http://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/poi (check branches and tags look good). svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/poi/trunk/ For test repositories, there's no ViewCVS, no email notification and the authentication is either wide-open or wide-open for all ASF committers (I forget which). Let me know what you think. Hen On 7/19/05, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be good (a test respository) and access so that committers can dink with it. Thanks, Andy Henri Yandell wrote: On 7/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This means we'll actually have to start the SVN migration. I'll start getting it set up on my machine and offering committers the chance to play with it. Lets plan our migration in September or October at the latest. I know a number of people have some on going long CVS threads that would be a pain to merge into SVN if we went before then. We can use the ASF test repo to give committers the chance to play if you want, saves you having to figure out the server-side etc. I'm able to do migrations nowadays so can have a test SVN repo available whenever. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ -- Andrew C. Oliver SuperLink Software, Inc. Java to Excel using POI http://www.superlinksoftware.com/services/poi Commercial support including features added/implemented, bugs fixed. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ . -- Andrew C. Oliver SuperLink Software, Inc. Java to Excel using POI http://www.superlinksoftware.com/services/poi Commercial support including features added/implemented, bugs fixed. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ -- Andrew C. Oliver SuperLink Software, Inc. Java to Excel using POI http://www.superlinksoftware.com/services/poi Commercial support including features added/implemented, bugs fixed
Re: so i'm taintend by just reading websites?
On 6/27/05, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chosen to remove the entire entry (or at least ask for it to be done). Chances are we won't get a reply from the site, and worrying about legal crap is the kind of stuff we all have to do nowadays. Sorry for the extreme irritation of this. Your contribution is definitely valued, this is just one of those things :( Open-source isn't usually like this, but things like POI, Samba and OpenOffice all have to watch their steps. Let's wait a few days and see if we get a reply from Andy's email. Did you ever get a reply Andy? Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
Re: Infrastructure, CVS, SVN, publishing
Had a chance? (yeah, I'm a persistent bastard sometimes :) ). There's something wonderfully cathartic about doing svn migrations; relatively simple effort timewise for a quick 'remove another project from the list' achievement. Not sure what I'll do in 2006. Hen On 8/13/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: alright I'll give it a try...give me a little bit. I have to write a presentation fo monday and take a little 2-day trip to chicago. -Andy Henri Yandell wrote: How odd. (It's an OS X install system Rainer). The prebuilt binary option is always there: http://metissian.com/projects/macosx/subversion/ It's for 10.3, so unsure if there are 10.4 problems or anything. I quit OS X at 10.3 :( Hen On 8/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: latest blasted fink seems to have dropped SVN... Glen Stampoultzis wrote: I like it alright. Henri Yandell wrote: Any thoughts on this? Painful to use, nice, too fast/slow/lime-flavoured? Hen On 7/24/05, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Test version of SVN:jakarta/poi setup. The only thing non-standard I did was to specify that filenames/comments were --encoding=latin1 rather than the default of ascii. It hit problems with some of the poi files with the ascii default. http://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/poi (check branches and tags look good). svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/poi/trunk/ For test repositories, there's no ViewCVS, no email notification and the authentication is either wide-open or wide-open for all ASF committers (I forget which). Let me know what you think. Hen On 7/19/05, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be good (a test respository) and access so that committers can dink with it. Thanks, Andy Henri Yandell wrote: On 7/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This means we'll actually have to start the SVN migration. I'll start getting it set up on my machine and offering committers the chance to play with it. Lets plan our migration in September or October at the latest. I know a number of people have some on going long CVS threads that would be a pain to merge into SVN if we went before then. We can use the ASF test repo to give committers the chance to play if you want, saves you having to figure out the server-side etc. I'm able to do migrations nowadays so can have a test SVN repo available whenever. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ -- Andrew C. Oliver SuperLink Software, Inc. Java to Excel using POI http://www.superlinksoftware.com/services/poi Commercial support including features added/implemented, bugs fixed. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ . -- Andrew C. Oliver SuperLink Software, Inc. Java to Excel using POI http://www.superlinksoftware.com/services/poi Commercial support including features added/implemented, bugs fixed. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ -- Andrew C. Oliver SuperLink Software, Inc. Java to Excel using POI http://www.superlinksoftware.com/services/poi Commercial support including features added/implemented, bugs fixed. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL
Re: Infrastructure, CVS, SVN, publishing
How odd. (It's an OS X install system Rainer). The prebuilt binary option is always there: http://metissian.com/projects/macosx/subversion/ It's for 10.3, so unsure if there are 10.4 problems or anything. I quit OS X at 10.3 :( Hen On 8/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: latest blasted fink seems to have dropped SVN... Glen Stampoultzis wrote: I like it alright. Henri Yandell wrote: Any thoughts on this? Painful to use, nice, too fast/slow/lime-flavoured? Hen On 7/24/05, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Test version of SVN:jakarta/poi setup. The only thing non-standard I did was to specify that filenames/comments were --encoding=latin1 rather than the default of ascii. It hit problems with some of the poi files with the ascii default. http://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/poi (check branches and tags look good). svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/poi/trunk/ For test repositories, there's no ViewCVS, no email notification and the authentication is either wide-open or wide-open for all ASF committers (I forget which). Let me know what you think. Hen On 7/19/05, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be good (a test respository) and access so that committers can dink with it. Thanks, Andy Henri Yandell wrote: On 7/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This means we'll actually have to start the SVN migration. I'll start getting it set up on my machine and offering committers the chance to play with it. Lets plan our migration in September or October at the latest. I know a number of people have some on going long CVS threads that would be a pain to merge into SVN if we went before then. We can use the ASF test repo to give committers the chance to play if you want, saves you having to figure out the server-side etc. I'm able to do migrations nowadays so can have a test SVN repo available whenever. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ -- Andrew C. Oliver SuperLink Software, Inc. Java to Excel using POI http://www.superlinksoftware.com/services/poi Commercial support including features added/implemented, bugs fixed. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ . -- Andrew C. Oliver SuperLink Software, Inc. Java to Excel using POI http://www.superlinksoftware.com/services/poi Commercial support including features added/implemented, bugs fixed. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
Re: Infrastructure, CVS, SVN, publishing
Nothing done by me :) Usual reasons are either: a) not run svnpasswd b) using http:// and not https:// Either of those help Glen? Hen On 7/27/05, Amol Deshmukh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and I had to re-run svnpasswd today. There was an email couple of days back about requiring to rerun svnpasswd if it was created within the last couple or weeks or so - that applied to me. HTH, Regards, ~ amol -Original Message- From: Amol Deshmukh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:47 AM To: 'POI Developers List' Subject: RE: Infrastructure, CVS, SVN, publishing Glen, I just tried committing to SVN and it seems to work fine. (I committed file o.a.p.h.util.Region.java with minor change) I'm not sure if Henri did something to fix your problem, or it just worked because of something else. Regards, ~ amol -Original Message- From: Glen Stampoultzis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:17 AM To: POI Developers List Subject: Re: Infrastructure, CVS, SVN, publishing Henri Yandell wrote: Test version of SVN:jakarta/poi setup. The only thing non-standard I did was to specify that filenames/comments were --encoding=latin1 rather than the default of ascii. It hit problems with some of the poi files with the ascii default. http://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/poi (check branches and tags look good). svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/poi/trunk/ For test repositories, there's no ViewCVS, no email notification and the authentication is either wide-open or wide-open for all ASF committers (I forget which). Let me know what you think. Thanks Henri, I checked out okay but I couldn't commit. I get a 403 - forbidden using tortoise SVN Regards, Glen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
Re: Infrastructure, CVS, SVN, publishing
Test version of SVN:jakarta/poi setup. The only thing non-standard I did was to specify that filenames/comments were --encoding=latin1 rather than the default of ascii. It hit problems with some of the poi files with the ascii default. http://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/poi (check branches and tags look good). svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/test/jakarta/poi/trunk/ For test repositories, there's no ViewCVS, no email notification and the authentication is either wide-open or wide-open for all ASF committers (I forget which). Let me know what you think. Hen On 7/19/05, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be good (a test respository) and access so that committers can dink with it. Thanks, Andy Henri Yandell wrote: On 7/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This means we'll actually have to start the SVN migration. I'll start getting it set up on my machine and offering committers the chance to play with it. Lets plan our migration in September or October at the latest. I know a number of people have some on going long CVS threads that would be a pain to merge into SVN if we went before then. We can use the ASF test repo to give committers the chance to play if you want, saves you having to figure out the server-side etc. I'm able to do migrations nowadays so can have a test SVN repo available whenever. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ -- Andrew C. Oliver SuperLink Software, Inc. Java to Excel using POI http://www.superlinksoftware.com/services/poi Commercial support including features added/implemented, bugs fixed. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
Re: Infrastructure, CVS, SVN, publishing
On 7/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This means we'll actually have to start the SVN migration. I'll start getting it set up on my machine and offering committers the chance to play with it. Lets plan our migration in September or October at the latest. I know a number of people have some on going long CVS threads that would be a pain to merge into SVN if we went before then. We can use the ASF test repo to give committers the chance to play if you want, saves you having to figure out the server-side etc. I'm able to do migrations nowadays so can have a test SVN repo available whenever. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
Re: so i'm taintend by just reading websites?
Looking into it. Hen (Jakarta VP) On 6/26/05, Andreas Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for your reply, also it leaves me a bit confused right now. although the guy who posted the information (which looks to me like two chapters from the excel 97 developers kit) copied them by violating some rights i can't see how i 'inherited' the violation by reading parts of the copies. is there a possibility to edit my entries containing the link to the eventually violating documents? i just tried but not even the author seems to be able to edit bugzilla comments. if someone could please cut the link out there i would be very thankful. if i understand you correct the code snippets i provided are already - and will stay - useless because of a possible violation. i still have the point of view not to be tainted right now. but set the case i might be violating copyrights ... would i be free again after buying the referred book (since the provided information seems congruent to the web pages)? i know that you're probably not the audience to post questions about copyright to but i still hope the solution to this problem must not be too difficult. appreciate you reply andreas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
Re: so i'm taintend by just reading websites?
To give you an update; Andy has emailed the site owner to try and confirm what the source of the information is. As Bugzilla is implictly a form of publishing, I'll be sending a request to the ASF admin to clean up the entry as soon as I figure out what to ask. This may all seem a bit extreme, but I'm sure you've seen the same kind of bizarrely insane legal decisions made nowadays that we all have. Hen On 6/27/05, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking into it. Hen (Jakarta VP) On 6/26/05, Andreas Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for your reply, also it leaves me a bit confused right now. although the guy who posted the information (which looks to me like two chapters from the excel 97 developers kit) copied them by violating some rights i can't see how i 'inherited' the violation by reading parts of the copies. is there a possibility to edit my entries containing the link to the eventually violating documents? i just tried but not even the author seems to be able to edit bugzilla comments. if someone could please cut the link out there i would be very thankful. if i understand you correct the code snippets i provided are already - and will stay - useless because of a possible violation. i still have the point of view not to be tainted right now. but set the case i might be violating copyrights ... would i be free again after buying the referred book (since the provided information seems congruent to the web pages)? i know that you're probably not the audience to post questions about copyright to but i still hope the solution to this problem must not be too difficult. appreciate you reply andreas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
Re: so i'm taintend by just reading websites?
On 6/27/05, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Bugzilla is implictly a form of publishing, I'll be sending a request to the ASF admin to clean up the entry as soon as I figure out what to ask. This may all seem a bit extreme, but I'm sure you've seen the same kind of bizarrely insane legal decisions made nowadays that we all have. Chosen to remove the entire entry (or at least ask for it to be done). Chances are we won't get a reply from the site, and worrying about legal crap is the kind of stuff we all have to do nowadays. Sorry for the extreme irritation of this. Your contribution is definitely valued, this is just one of those things :( Open-source isn't usually like this, but things like POI, Samba and OpenOffice all have to watch their steps. Let's wait a few days and see if we get a reply from Andy's email. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
[site] New Jakarta download pages
(Bcc'd to all Jakarta dev lists) Partly an announcement that the Jakarta download pages have been changed somewhat. Rather than one huge page, it's a whole set of pages. So when time comes to do your next release, you modify site/downloads/downloads.xml and run ant. Source, binary and nightly-builds are all part of the same page. More importantly, a suggestion that projects should no longer link to the top download page, but instead link to their particular download page. So POI would link to: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/downloads/downloads_poi.cgi Commons would link to: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/downloads/downloads_commons.html Commons IO would link to: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/downloads/downloads_commons-io.cgi and so on. The new pages should be exact matches to the previous binindex and sourceindex pages. One requested improvement is for filenames to be specified rather than '1.0.zip'. Hopefully we can make that change globally by figuring out the xslt to get the filename from a url. Another improvement is to add the cvs.apache.org/snapshot/velocity, and any other live snapshots as Nightly Builds. Apologies for the cross-list posting, wanted to make sure everybody got the memo about changing the download links if they want. :) Please direct replies back to the general list. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
Re: Subversion migration
On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 21:31:25 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Google for subversion OS X is all complaints and get special build from so-and-so, is OS X an actively supported platform for subversion? Has anyone (known to a person here) ever installed a compatible (with svn.apache.org) subverison on OS X? Just thought I'd answer this one conclusively. My mac-mini arrived yesterday, so I had a chance to install the binary build for SVN. Standard Mac style install (not a dmg-drag into Apps, one of the ones where it actually puts bits into different parts). The only thing it didn't seem to do was to setup PATH to look in /usr/local/bin/, but that might be the fault of the XCode install, as I installed that directly afterwards. Otherwise it's working fine so far. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
Re: Subversion migration
Part of the migration process involves a test deployment that you can then sit and play with. Looking at POI, you seem to have one codebase so the following strategy looks very likely to be the best: jakarta/ poi/ branches/ tags/ trunk/ SVN changes the name HEAD to trunk/. I'm unsure if you'd want src/contrib to be in its own trunk etc; you can do things like: jakarta/ poi/ core/ branches/ tags/ trunk/ contrib/ branches/ tags/ trunk/ or something; but the first one seems most likely for cvs:jakarta-poi/. Assuming you fit a nice simple setup, then it would not take a lot of effort to request that the Infra guys setup a test svn repo for POI and then the niggly bits about IDE support could be tested out etc. The request would pretty much be a search+replace on http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/Regexp_20Subversion_20Conversion. Hen On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 16:14:59 -0500, Danny Mui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will raise my hand during this conversion process as well, access from work will cure boredom (have to be ready for all contingencies!). Only concern is that I've been weened off the command line cvs by Eclipse and don't want to go back :). Glen Stampoultzis wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because this is a core piece of infrastructure that could drastically affect this project, we need to proceed with due caution. Is CVS being discontinued? If so, at what point? Glen, is that a +1 (commitment of effort)? Consider it a +0.5. Willing to help but not wanting it to take too much effort. Also I don't want anyone else put out by the move to agreement from the other committers is important to me. Is anyone on POI familiar enough with Subversion to branch, tag and merge? Not yet. Learning subversion is something I'm going to have to do as part of my day job anyway since we are switching over there also. Does IntelliJ support subversion? There's a plugin for the current version. Apparently it's workable but not as seemless as the current CVS support. The upcoming version of Idea is going to have full support for subversion and they're opening up the source to the CVS and subversion code which is a nice bonus. What advantage will the POI project gain by switching given that our directory structure is relatively stable? Personally I'm looking forward to the ability selectively to merge atomic commits. Tracking merges with tags using CVS is a PITA. Playing nicely with firewalls is also handy when I'm in companies with restricted access to the internet. As I said though, commitment from all of you is important to me. Regards, Glen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Subversion migration
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 20:59:27 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay but we're not committing to it yet. We need people familiar and I need time to test against OS X which I don't have ATM. I know for sure we don't want to be the first project after velocity and oro ;-) We should go after tomcat :-) If you don't hose tomcat, you sure won't hose us ;-) -Andy Commons, Site2, Regexp should move pretty soon. I just nudged Cactus and they seem pretty willing to go soon. I need to nudge Turbine again to remind myself where they are. ECS, BCEL should move pretty quickly after that. Which is half of Jakarta if you ignore the dead two. So definitely not using you as guinea pigs :) (that was the rest of Apache). If we work out a structural plan for the svn repo; and get a test one setup; then some of the questions can be answered. To that end, is POI your classic single codebase to single jar? Are there multiple different codebases and targets? Any weirdness to do with the binary MS formats that have been a problem in CVS (test files and newlnies or something)? Any reason why we couldn't treat it as a simple maven'd or ant'd project? I expect there probably are. Sods law. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Subversion migration
Completely failed to send this link to the list. Current status of Jakarta migrations: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/Migrating_20to_20Subversion Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Subversion migration
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 22:30:50 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To that end, is POI your classic single codebase to single jar? Are multiple jars there multiple different codebases and targets? Any weirdness to do multiple targets same codebase more or less (scratchpad/contrib are different). What's it to subversion? We version everything as one. They're just questions I thought could have bearing on the structural decision. If it's all just one codebase, then the standard style seems to be best: jakarta/ poi/ branches/ tags/ trunk/ I don't have a set of example questions to ask, so half of them were probably irrelevant :) Another option would be: jakarta/ poi/ core/ branches/ tags/ trunk/ contrib/ branches/ tags/ trunk/ scratchpad/ branches/ tags/ trunk/ The major advantage there is that the different codebases are more independent. Seems that the first is the way to go though. with the binary MS formats that have been a problem in CVS (test files no more than any other binary file. (some XLS files) Can Subversion not handle bins? It's fine with bins. I'm searching for ideas on things that could be a problem, so one idea was that maybe you had to do weird things to have MS test files stay in MS format when checked out on OS X or something. Probably should ignore such questions and let testing find them :) Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subversion migration
Just wondering if the POI community have any thoughts on a migration to Subversion? I'm aiming to get Jakarta migrated over to Subversion this quarter and this email is intended to nudge the start of the POI migration. The process seems pretty easy, though I'm not finished on my first one (jakarta-regexp): http://www.apache.org/dev/cvs2svn.html Alternatively, I'm looking to hear the problems with the idea of a migration to SVN so I can get the Infrastructure guys to deal with them. Thanks, Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Subversion migration
I hear it's a lot better now. I've got a self-compiled version that's been working very well for me, and you can get pre-built binaries at: http://metissian.com/projects/macosx/subversion/ Hen On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 11:52:22 +1100, Glen Stampoultzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: Just wondering if the POI community have any thoughts on a migration to Subversion? I'm aiming to get Jakarta migrated over to Subversion this quarter and this email is intended to nudge the start of the POI migration. The process seems pretty easy, though I'm not finished on my first one (jakarta-regexp): http://www.apache.org/dev/cvs2svn.html Alternatively, I'm looking to hear the problems with the idea of a migration to SVN so I can get the Infrastructure guys to deal with them. Personally not against it. I think Andy had some concerns about support under OS/X. Not sure if they still hold or not. Andy? Regards, Glen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Subversion migration
Attempting to answer as much as I can inline: On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 21:31:25 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because this is a core piece of infrastructure that could drastically affect this project, we need to proceed with due caution. Is CVS being discontinued? Eventually. If so, at what point? I've not heard any dates. My suggestion of Jakarta being all in SVN by 2006 was considered a bit lax. Glen, is that a +1 (commitment of effort)? Is anyone on POI familiar enough with Subversion to branch, tag and merge? It's pretty easy to pick up, once you get the idea of things being URL based. Google for subversion OS X is all complaints and get special build from so-and-so, is OS X an actively supported platform for subversion? The Metissian's binary build for OS X was last made on 2004-12-20; so it seems pretty well supported. Has anyone (known to a person here) ever installed a compatible (with svn.apache.org) subverison on OS X? I've been using one for a long time; it's working fine with directory-naming and various other svn.apache bits I've checked out. I'm pretty sure I'm on 1.0 too; so I'm out of date and still not seeing noticeable problems. Are any active maintainers/developers of Subversion using OS X? What version is svn.apache.org (1.0, 1.1?) -bash-2.05b$ svn --version svn, version 1.1.2 (r12471) compiled Dec 22 2004, 15:40:15 How many projects have switched? http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi Jakarta is lagging the others I think. We have a higher inertia rating :) How many Jakarta projects have switched? Jakarta-wise: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/Migrating_20to_20Subversion About half are somewhere on the path to get to SVN. 2 projects are currently there (though Velocity need to fold their 3 directories into 1 directory). What problems have other projects converting had? Figuring out the desired structure is the only 'issue' I've seen so far; but this is a better question for an Infra person. I'll nudge someone over here to answer questions. How did they resolve those problems? How long have the first converted projects run on Subversion? Looking in svn.apache.org; James was there 10 months ago. Unsure if anyone has been there more than that. Have they faced any corruption/loss of data/etc? I think I've seen a couple of issues which have been comfortably dealt with. We seem to have the svn coders supporting things as well, which is good. Does Eclipse (my IDE) support subversion? The Subclipse plugin seems usable. Howard Lewis Ship has suggested the tagging/branching from within the IDE is not great/there(?). I always tag/branch from the command line, so haven't any experience on either the CVS or SVN support for that. Does IntelliJ support subversion? No idea if it's any good; or if IntelliJ will have it internally, but there's: http://plugins.intellij.net/plugins/view/?id=Subversion What consequences will we face if we do not switch? I imagine at some point this year those still left in CVS will be increasingly alone and pressured to move. What advantage will the POI project gain by switching given that our directory structure is relatively stable? A lot of small touches I think. There's the svn move ability as you've pointed out; there's the ability to edit comments; tagging/branching happening on the server not the client in terms of the actual operation, so much less bandwidth/slowness. svn status is a great command; like cvs -n update -dP but without the need to talk to the server. I'm not a great salesman for it though. Negatives I find in SVN: * I miss tagging. SVN tags are just copies and there are a few tricks of tagging that I can't do anymore. * I can't do: svn status -v project.xml to find out the tags that have been applied to a project. * I miss repository ,v files that I can grep and hack. The pain in SVN is all admin-based on the server for me; and as long as the Infra guys want that pain, I'm happy for them to have it. SVN on the client is a slight improvement over CVS and will only get better as things are actively being developed. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
POI News?
Nagoya is going away. Is the POI News blog (http://nagoya.apache.org/poi/news/) dead and okay to blow away? If not, what should I update the links on the main site's news archives that point to it to? Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: POI News?
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 10:39:35 +1100, Glen Stampoultzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: Nagoya is going away. Is the POI News blog (http://nagoya.apache.org/poi/news/) dead and okay to blow away? If not, what should I update the links on the main site's news archives that point to it to? We were still using POI news. However I don't believe anyone has setup a replacement yet. Can you give us a day to copy the content off before killing it? I suspect it's not going away that quickly; Noel and Infrastructure's call. I'm being a messenger and when I noticed the poi bit on nagoya I had a suspicion that it's slipping through the cracks. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
