CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: ports
CVSROOT:/cvs Module name:ports Changes by: ajacou...@cvs.openbsd.org 2009/10/08 07:18:10 Modified files: mail/cyrus-imapd: Makefile mail/cyrus-imapd/pkg: DESCR-main Log message: typo. from Stephan A. Rickauer, thanks!
CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: ports
CVSROOT:/cvs Module name:ports Changes by: ajacou...@cvs.openbsd.org 2009/10/08 10:41:04 Modified files: productivity : Makefile Log message: +rubrica2
CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: ports
CVSROOT:/cvs Module name:ports Changes by: ajacou...@cvs.openbsd.org 2009/10/08 10:39:37 Log message: Import rubrica2-2.0.6 Rubrica is an addressbook manager for the GNOME Environment. It allows you to add personal data (name, surname, address, etc.), web links, irc and email addresses, telephone numbers, job information (company where contact works, company infos, contact's assigment, etc.) and notes. Rubrica can import/export addressbooks from/to GnomeCard, KAddressbook, Evolution, Csv file format, and an export addressboks to HTML and text format. Reworked from an original submission by landry@ ages and ages ago... Status: Vendor Tag: ajacoutot Release Tags: ajacoutot_20091008 N ports/productivity/rubrica2/Makefile N ports/productivity/rubrica2/distinfo N ports/productivity/rubrica2/pkg/PLIST N ports/productivity/rubrica2/pkg/DESCR N ports/productivity/rubrica2/patches/patch-configure N ports/productivity/rubrica2/patches/patch-rubrica2_schemas_in N ports/productivity/rubrica2/patches/patch-plugins_gmail_Makefile_in N ports/productivity/rubrica2/patches/patch-plugins_rubrica_Makefile_in N ports/productivity/rubrica2/patches/patch-plugins_csv_Makefile_in N ports/productivity/rubrica2/patches/patch-plugins_vcard_Makefile_in N ports/productivity/rubrica2/patches/patch-interface_MainWindow_glade N ports/productivity/rubrica2/patches/patch-src_app_c N ports/productivity/rubrica2/patches/patch-test_test_libral_c No conflicts created by this import
CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: ports
CVSROOT:/cvs Module name:ports Changes by: st...@cvs.openbsd.org 2009/10/08 10:43:16 Modified files: mail/getmail : Makefile distinfo Log message: update to getmail 4.12.0
CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: ports
CVSROOT:/cvs Module name:ports Changes by: st...@cvs.openbsd.org 2009/10/08 13:13:39 Modified files: www: Makefile Log message: +cntlm
CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: ports
CVSROOT:/cvs Module name:ports Changes by: st...@cvs.openbsd.org 2009/10/08 13:13:09 Log message: import www/cntlm, from maintainer David Coppa Cntlm is an http proxy server, written in pure C, that allows you to authenticate via the proprietary NTLM protocol, so you can use web sites and web proxies that require NTLM/NTLMv2 authorization. Status: Vendor Tag: sthen Release Tags: dcoppa_20091008 N ports/www/cntlm/distinfo N ports/www/cntlm/Makefile N ports/www/cntlm/pkg/DESCR N ports/www/cntlm/pkg/PLIST N ports/www/cntlm/patches/patch-utils_h N ports/www/cntlm/patches/patch-socket_c N ports/www/cntlm/patches/patch-acl_c N ports/www/cntlm/patches/patch-Makefile N ports/www/cntlm/patches/patch-proxy_c N ports/www/cntlm/patches/patch-ntlm_c No conflicts created by this import
Re: [Update] Dovecot 1.2.1 with Managesieve
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:40:31 -0400 Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote: don't talk, send diff. :) Every release, I go begging for things to add warnings about. I don't use dovecot (gave up on it long ago), or 99% of the other packages we have available. Don't expect me to be able to populate upgradexx.html on my own. Note also that we now have [ports] markers in current.html. Putting something there DOES help make sure things hit the next upgradexx.html. hint: upgrade46.html is taking shape very, very rapidly... oh, guess I haven't sent my beg out for 4.6 yet. oops... Nick. Scince i have not seen any roadway to include dovecot 1.2.* for OpenBSD 4.7, it makes no sense to send a diff yet. If pea@ or brad@ dont remember after this is commited to the tree for 4.7 lets just hope s1 else will remember to mail you a diff... (I'll have an eye out for it.) Btw, 1.2.6 works fine for me on various amd64 and i386 setups. - Robert
Re: update blows up
On 2009 Oct 08 (Thu) at 01:34:36 +0200 (+0200), Martin Schröder wrote: :2009/10/8 Stuart Henderson st...@openbsd.org: : If you want something better, download SHA256 and check the hashes. : :I know this has been discussed before, but other free OS solve this :problem (among others) by signing their packages. Feel free to flame me. : package signing does nothing extra for partial-sync mirrors. the reason why the SHA256 file works is that these are the SHA hashes for the entire batch. -- Steele's Plagiarism of Somebody's Philosophy: Everybody should believe in something -- I believe I'll have another drink.
Re: update blows up
i dont see how this is stupid... Don't worry. Most of us see your name and at that moment delete the mail. This reply is an exception.
Re: update blows up
2009/10/8 Stuart Henderson st...@openbsd.org: If you want something better, download SHA256 and check the hashes. I know this has been discussed before, but other free OS solve this problem (among others) by signing their packages. Feel free to flame me. Solve the problem that all the packages are exported via a only a T1 because people don't fund the project enough and we can take the next steps.
Re: update blows up
Mirrors pull from other mirrors, with this method some mirrors will do their own lock handling, others will just rsync the lock files from their upstream and you'll end up with a broken mirror that looks valid. Or something may go wrong and a transfer only goes halfway while indicating success, etc. It's not robust. If you want something better, download SHA256 and check the hashes. Stuart, I think we are missing an opportunity to recruit this person to manage the 50+ mirrors that the project runs, which are of course many many steps removed from the build process... Oh oops. I forgot. We don't trust this specific loser we are discussing, since he spends all his time making uneducated complaints on the mailing lists. Sorry, forget the idea.
Re: [Update] Dovecot 1.2.1 with Managesieve
On 2009/10/08 00:21, Matthew Weigel wrote:
Index: pkg/MESSAGE-server
===
RCS file: /cvs/ports/mail/dovecot/pkg/MESSAGE-server,v
retrieving revision 1.1
diff -u pkg/MESSAGE-server
--- pkg/MESSAGE-server 1 Dec 2006 23:30:49 - 1.1
+++ pkg/MESSAGE-server 8 Oct 2009 05:10:53 -
@@ -14,3 +14,13 @@
if [ -x ${PREFIX}/sbin/dovecot ]; then
echo -n ' dovecot'; ${PREFIX}/sbin/dovecot
fi
+
+If you are upgrading from the dovecot package for OpenBSD 4.6, there
+are differences in the configuration file that may need to be taken
+into account. Please see http://wiki.dovecot.org/Upgrading/1.2.
Few people will read that for upgrades, it's lost in a bunch of other
similar messages, most of which you only need to look at for initial
installation. Besides, by that point, it's too late.
The right place for this sort of thing (where it's needed at all) is
faq/current.html and the upgrade notes where people should see them
/before/ they upgrade.
+Also, the CMUSieve plugin has been deprecated in favor of dovecot's
+own Sieve plugin. Please see
+http://wiki.dovecot.org/LDA/Sieve/Dovecot#configuration and
+http://wiki.dovecot.org/LDA/Sieve/Dovecot#Migration_from_CMUSieve for
+more information about using the new plugin.
In the diffs that have been going around, CMUSieve hasn't been
deprecated, it's been removed.
Re: mplayer continued...
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Jacob Meuser jake...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 07:32:06AM +0100, Edd Barrett wrote: On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 09:47:07PM -0400, Predrag Punosevac wrote: Edd, can you reproduce my claim on your latest version of MPlayer? It plays the video fine here :\ Odd. well, he said the old version (what's in the ports tree) is what is not working. Ah yes, my mistake. btw, there were some integer overflows fixed in the real media demuxer late in July. there've also been quite a few changes to rtsp support since early July. Maybe it's worth rolling a newer distfile. Will look at doing this soon. -- Best Regards Edd Barrett http://students.dec.bournemouth.ac.uk/ebarrett
Re: mplayer continued...
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 12:40:36AM +0100, Edd Barrett wrote: Unfortunately, oga@ reports that amd64 with strict malloc flags (GPJFA), mplayer can not play youtube flv and will crash like so: MPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: uninit_vcodec I can not reproduce this on i386. Has anyone else got this problem? It crashes on my amd64, too (sometimes with SIGABRT, most of the time with SIGSEGV), sometimes even without any malloc flags settings, and always at the end of the video. I don't know if I have the time to debug it today. If not, we can look at it during p2k9. Ciao, Kili
Re: mplayer continued...
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 11:56:47AM +0200, Matthias Kilian wrote: On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 12:40:36AM +0100, Edd Barrett wrote: Unfortunately, oga@ reports that amd64 with strict malloc flags (GPJFA), mplayer can not play youtube flv and will crash like so: MPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: uninit_vcodec I can not reproduce this on i386. Has anyone else got this problem? It crashes on my amd64, too (sometimes with SIGABRT, most of the time with SIGSEGV), sometimes even without any malloc flags settings, and always at the end of the video. Happens too with previous version, being on i386/ppc/sparc64, often playing flv/wmv stream dumps, and without any malloc flags. I won't consider this as a regression, ports-wise. Things have to move, this thread is really becoming an epic fail. Landry
Re: UPDATE: sqlite3
On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 10:32:27PM -0400, Nick Bender wrote: So how cool would it be to add tcl to base? Seriously, bsd liscense, small footprint, knock off lots off depencies for ports Ok, crawlng back into my hole Not sure tcl is that secure...
NEW: www/cntlm
Port of Cntlm, an NTLM / NTLM Session Response / NTLMv2 authenticating HTTP proxy written in C. Useful if you are behind an ISA proxy server and want to do some porting / pkg upgrading and so on... I've done it because ntlmaps fails on my employer's proxy (and, basically, on newer ISAs): NTLM authorization Proxy Server v1.0 Copyright (C) 2001-2009 by Dmitry Rozmanov, Darryl Dixon, and others. Unable to load win32console support; complex passwords can not be input. Now listening at cl0311500093650 on port 5865 Unhandled exception in thread started by Traceback (most recent call last): File /home/f5967/trunk/ntlmaps/proxy_client.py, line 158, in run self.auth_routine()# NTLM authorization File /home/f5967/trunk/ntlmaps/proxy_client.py, line 681, in auth_routine self.auth_407() File /home/f5967/trunk/ntlmaps/proxy_client.py, line 629, in auth_407 self.ntlm_auther.proxy_ntlm_authentication(self) File /home/f5967/trunk/ntlmaps/ntlm_auth.py, line 106, in proxy_ntlm_authentication msg2 = string.strip(string.split(auth[0])[1]) IndexError: list index out of range Tested on i386 only. Also @ http://62.94.26.180/cntlm_port.tar.gz Comments? OKs? ciao, david cntlm_port.tar.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data
Re: NEW: www/cntlm
On 2009/10/08 13:02, David Coppa wrote: Tested on i386 only. Also @ http://62.94.26.180/cntlm_port.tar.gz likely to have problems on LP64 arch; no time to look further now but here are the relevant parts of build output: Compiling proxy.c proxy.c: In function `proxy_thread': proxy.c:929: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size proxy.c: In function `socks5_thread': proxy.c:1400: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size proxy.c: In function `main': proxy.c:2631: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size proxy.c:2633: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size proxy.c:2635: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size
Re: NEW: www/cntlm
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: likely to have problems on LP64 arch; no time to look further now but here are the relevant parts of build output: Compiling proxy.c proxy.c: In function `proxy_thread': proxy.c:929: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size proxy.c: In function `socks5_thread': proxy.c:1400: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size proxy.c: In function `main': proxy.c:2631: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size proxy.c:2633: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size proxy.c:2635: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size Ok, can you please try this one? http://62.94.26.180/cntlm_port_fix64.tar.gz cheers, david cntlm_port_fix64.tar.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data
Re: update blows up
hmm, on Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 12:23:52AM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that Stuart, I think we are missing an opportunity to recruit this person to manage the 50+ mirrors that the project runs, which are of course many many steps removed from the build process... Oh oops. I forgot. We don't trust this specific loser we are discussing, since he spends all his time making uneducated complaints on the mailing lists. Sorry, forget the idea. what's the big deal here? my original mail was full of smileys.. i half-jokingly proposed a deliberately simplistic solution to a problem that in the end is a much bigger problem. so what? never happened to you? that the picture uncovered itself as you went along? ah, the perfect people. i can't recall a big open discussion about partial mirror synching here on ports@ or how pkg_add could deal with this so it's not that it's a theme discussed to death and i should know everything about it. pointing out the pitfalls would have been more than enough without the personal insults (like when you did with /procfs). but you know what? if theo hadn't been there, i'd be still the internet wussy i was when i got on the internetz. thank you theo, you made me a better man. i just hope that one day we will meet in person, and after shaking your hand and thanking you for the great operating system you are managing, i can call you out to the street and brake your nose, because i tend to react in the old fashion when someone keeps insulting me regardless of what i say. just because noone is buying the cd's go and chew on someone else and leave me alone theo. and don't just delete my mails because you could still accidentaly read them. rtfm procmailex(5) to see how you can send my mails right to /dev/null or ask someone to do it for you. -f -- nothing can go wrong now, go wrong, gow rong, grong!
Re: NEW: www/cntlm
David Coppa wrote: Ok, can you please try this one? http://62.94.26.180/cntlm_port_fix64.tar.gz Builds fine @amd64, anyway I cannot try this port (lack of Microsoft ISA Server). Cheers Giovanni
Re: update blows up
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 02:26:29PM +0200, frantisek holop wrote: | but you know what? if theo hadn't been there, i'd be still | the internet wussy i was when i got on the internetz. | thank you theo, you made me a better man. i just hope that | one day we will meet in person, and after shaking your hand | and thanking you for the great operating system you are | managing, i can call you out to the street and brake your nose, | because i tend to react in the old fashion when someone keeps | insulting me regardless of what i say. Are you serious ? Someone says something you don't like and your reaction would be to turn to violence ? I'm not sure if I dare say anything about it - will you break my nose too if I do ? If you're serious - you seriously suck. Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- [++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+ +++-].++[-]+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/
Re: NEW: www/cntlm
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Giovanni Bechis giova...@openbsd.org wrote: Builds fine @amd64, anyway I cannot try this port (lack of Microsoft ISA Server). I've just tested it on a x86_64 (Intel Xeon) running RH linux and it works well. Unfortunately I have no 64bit machines running OpenBSD at work and at home I haven't ISA proxy server :( bye, dav
Re: UPDATE: sqlite3
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 10:32:27PM -0400, Nick Bender wrote: So how cool would it be to add tcl to base? Seriously, bsd liscense, small footprint, knock off lots off depencies for ports Ok, crawlng back into my hole Not sure tcl is that secure... Not sure what you mean by secure - is perl secure? -N
Re: update blows up
Oh, Paul - don't be so overly dramatic. Regardless of your or anyone else's opinion of the intelligence behind a question, you can't insult a man five times in the same thread and expect that he won't become defensive. You're too smart to ignore the reaction of all creatures, including people, when backed into a corner. It's our very nature. If you don't like the question someone asks, follow the first rule of OpenBSD etiquette: Ignore them. JC On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 6:01 AM, Paul de Weerd we...@weirdnet.nl wrote: On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 02:26:29PM +0200, frantisek holop wrote: | but you know what? if theo hadn't been there, i'd be still | the internet wussy i was when i got on the internetz. | thank you theo, you made me a better man. i just hope that | one day we will meet in person, and after shaking your hand | and thanking you for the great operating system you are | managing, i can call you out to the street and brake your nose, | because i tend to react in the old fashion when someone keeps | insulting me regardless of what i say. Are you serious ? Someone says something you don't like and your reaction would be to turn to violence ? I'm not sure if I dare say anything about it - will you break my nose too if I do ? If you're serious - you seriously suck. Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- [++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+ +++-].++[-]+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/
Re: update blows up
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 06:54:37AM -0700, James Crutchfield wrote: | Oh, Paul - don't be so overly dramatic. Regardless of your or anyone else's | opinion of the intelligence behind a question, you can't insult a man five | times in the same thread and expect that he won't become defensive. You're | too smart to ignore the reaction of all creatures, including people, when | backed into a corner. It's our very nature. Overly dramatic ? Hmm. I consider threatening with violence to be overly stupid. And I wouldn't call breaking a nose defensive. Sure, I'm not too worried that anyone on this list is going to come by my house and punch me in the face. I was trying to point out the stupidity of threatening with violence when someone says something you don't like. | If you don't like the question someone asks, follow the first rule of | OpenBSD etiquette: Ignore them. Sure, and if you don't like the reactions you get (be they insults or whatever), ignore those too. Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- [++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+ +++-].++[-]+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/
Re: update blows up
Paul de Weerd a écrit : On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 06:54:37AM -0700, James Crutchfield wrote: | Oh, Paul - don't be so overly dramatic. Regardless of your or anyone else's | opinion of the intelligence behind a question, you can't insult a man five | times in the same thread and expect that he won't become defensive. You're | too smart to ignore the reaction of all creatures, including people, when | backed into a corner. It's our very nature. Overly dramatic ? Hmm. I consider threatening with violence to be overly stupid. And I wouldn't call breaking a nose defensive. Sure, I'm not too worried that anyone on this list is going to come by my house and punch me in the face. I was trying to point out the stupidity of threatening with violence when someone says something you don't like. For some people I would go through the pain of going to their house and punch them in the face or stab them with a fork, given this project was followed by volunteers ;-) Gilles
Re: NEW: www/cntlm
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:36 PM, David Coppa dco...@gmail.com wrote: I've just tested it on a x86_64 (Intel Xeon) running RH linux and it works well. Unfortunately I have no 64bit machines running OpenBSD at work and at home I haven't ISA proxy server :( Well, I've managed to create a new 64bit VMWare virtual machine and installed the latest amd64 snapshot on it. As a test, using wget I've downloaded from ftp.openbsd.org the install46.iso file through cntlm and our corporate ISA server: works fine there... ciao, david
Re: update blows up
hmm, on Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 03:01:17PM +0200, Paul de Weerd said that On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 02:26:29PM +0200, frantisek holop wrote: | but you know what? if theo hadn't been there, i'd be still | the internet wussy i was when i got on the internetz. | thank you theo, you made me a better man. i just hope that | one day we will meet in person, and after shaking your hand | and thanking you for the great operating system you are | managing, i can call you out to the street and brake your nose, | because i tend to react in the old fashion when someone keeps | insulting me regardless of what i say. Are you serious ? Someone says something you don't like and your reaction would be to turn to violence ? I'm not sure if I dare say anything about it - will you break my nose too if I do ? If you're serious - you seriously suck. i am talking about years of insultings by theo. please consult the archives + i have my private collection. it is him who is resolving to name callings if someone writes something he doesnt like. in my country if you call people names (even if warranted, whatever that means in this case), you better be prepared that some might pick up the gauntlet and kick your ass. -f -- i am not a complete idiot. some parts are missing.
Re: update blows up
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 2:26 PM, frantisek holop min...@obiit.org wrote: hmm, on Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 03:01:17PM +0200, Paul de Weerd said that On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 02:26:29PM +0200, frantisek holop wrote: | but you know what? if theo hadn't been there, i'd be still | the internet wussy i was when i got on the internetz. | thank you theo, you made me a better man. i just hope that | one day we will meet in person, and after shaking your hand | and thanking you for the great operating system you are | managing, i can call you out to the street and brake your nose, | because i tend to react in the old fashion when someone keeps | insulting me regardless of what i say. Are you serious ? Someone says something you don't like and your reaction would be to turn to violence ? I'm not sure if I dare say anything about it - will you break my nose too if I do ? If you're serious - you seriously suck. i am talking about years of insultings by theo. please consult the archives + i have my private collection. it is him who is resolving to name callings if someone writes something he doesnt like. in my country if you call people names (even if warranted, whatever that means in this case), you better be prepared that some might pick up the gauntlet and kick your ass. So in other words, beating someone up because you don't like them is cool and favorable over name calling on a public mailing list? So because I think you're an idiot... rather than telling you I think you're an idiot I should beat you senseless in an alley?
Re: update blows up
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 08:26:48PM +0200, frantisek holop wrote: | hmm, on Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 03:01:17PM +0200, Paul de Weerd said that | On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 02:26:29PM +0200, frantisek holop wrote: | | but you know what? if theo hadn't been there, i'd be still | | the internet wussy i was when i got on the internetz. | | thank you theo, you made me a better man. i just hope that | | one day we will meet in person, and after shaking your hand | | and thanking you for the great operating system you are | | managing, i can call you out to the street and brake your nose, | | because i tend to react in the old fashion when someone keeps | | insulting me regardless of what i say. | | Are you serious ? Someone says something you don't like and your | reaction would be to turn to violence ? I'm not sure if I dare say | anything about it - will you break my nose too if I do ? | | If you're serious - you seriously suck. | | i am talking about years of insultings by theo. please consult | the archives + i have my private collection. Very nice for you. So you stick around for the insults ? | it is him who is resolving to name callings if someone | writes something he doesnt like. Who gives a shit ? Some dude on the internet calls you an idiot, so what ? I just told you you suck because you said something I don't like. If you can't stand the heat, get your ass out the kitchen. | in my country if you call people names (even if warranted, | whatever that means in this case), you better be prepared | that some might pick up the gauntlet and kick your ass. And what country would that be ? Moronia ? The country of We fight because we're bunch of idiots ? | i am not a complete idiot. some parts are missing. How true. Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- [++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+ +++-].++[-]+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/
Re: scrotwm 0.9.11
On 2009/10/08 15:18, Marco Peereboom wrote: Since no one is rolling a port I tried to do it myself. This is auto generated now when rolling a release. I started on 0.9.10 but couldn't work out how to stop makewhatis whining about the translated manpages. Doing the version bump is the easy part, automating that part only helps a little. +MD5 (scrotwm-0.9.11.tgz) = 2a6c6264e841a7d9a449255ed042a496 +RMD160 (scrotwm-0.9.11.tgz) = ffa1bc8cf220b3a09fbb395faa100c89e4dd2142 +SHA1 (scrotwm-0.9.11.tgz) = 5ecd9e08da32c801dba8e6cc79d3374441b26704 +SHA256 (scrotwm-0.9.11.tgz) = 33ab1baeef7f44045ca4024470c703f3e97a91166b13cc50fc7f4f60dc37887d These should be base64-encoded not hex.
Re: update blows up
hmm, on Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 09:47:21PM +0200, Paul de Weerd said that | i am talking about years of insultings by theo. please consult | the archives + i have my private collection. Very nice for you. So you stick around for the insults ? no, not really. i dont judge a product by the social behaviour of its leader. very few people would be using openbsd otherwise. it's not my fault theo can't ignore mails he thinks stupid. he could do it just as well as the others and save a lot of trouble and bad image. but that's too easy, isn't it? i guess he needs to blow some steam so he calls people names cause he can hide behind the internetz. | it is him who is resolving to name callings if someone | writes something he doesnt like. Who gives a shit ? Some dude on the internet calls you an idiot, so what ? I just told you you suck because you said something I don't like. If you can't stand the heat, get your ass out the kitchen. yes Paul, you are a nobody on the internet, i agree. and i coudln't care less what you say about me in the public. on the other hand, perhaps you feel warm and fuzzy when the leader of your favourite project (and not just some dude on the internet really) calls you names in front of the whole community again and again. i, personally, am not in favour of tarnishing my name this way. i am making considerable effort to be on good terms with the project members and have no beef to grind with them whatsoever. i am not a person looking for fights, consult the archives. and please spare me the because you deserved it probably shit, because the other devs rarely join in on his escapades and try to hold a civil face (thank you all, you know who you are). so it is proven to be possible to stay civilised. | in my country if you call people names (even if warranted, | whatever that means in this case), you better be prepared | that some might pick up the gauntlet and kick your ass. And what country would that be ? Moronia ? The country of We fight because we're bunch of idiots ? if you call a big guy in the bar an idiot you better run and hide or live with the consequences. if someone calls your girlfriend a fat bitch into your face, i imagine you just whistle and pretend nothing's happened, right? thought so Paul, thought so. carry on. one day someone will sue theo for libel and then he will ask for donations for a lawyer. of course i never thought theo a man who would stand up to another man and put his fist where his mouth is -- and i dont mean punching himself.. he's damn lucky duels are illegal nowadays. -f -- 1st law of thermodynamics: go to class!
Re: update blows up
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, Gilles Chehade wrote: For some people I would go through the pain of going to their house and punch them in the face or stab them with a fork, given this project was followed by volunteers ;-) Never saw a list where people discuss punches and bits on the same thread. Funny. Teers, -- Daniel Bolgheroni FEI - Faculdade de Engenharia Industrial http://www.dbolgheroni.eng.br/mykey ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) against HTML e-mail X / \
