Re: old unused ports: x11/ogle and related

2011-07-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 05:40:09PM +, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 23:32:00 -0400
> Predrag Punosevac wrote:
> 
> > Maybe it is just me but I have never been able to get out of MPlayer
> > half decent
> > support for chapters. Ogle is still my default DVD player.
> 
> I find it strange that a 10 year old firmware dvd player can play the
> occasional really weird disc who's menu simply refuses to work on PC
> dvd player software. I think xine and ogle coped best with the weird
> discs but didn't really work like they should. OTOH I don't need an
> engineering code or disc conversion to play foreign region discs on PC
> and firmware dvd players ecc often suck with DVD-Rs.

Well, you're free to have a look at ogle code and improve it.

One big problem is that to improve this, you need financial resources,
or at least a copy of the DVDs involved... I remember the guys at chalmers
were asking for DVDs with problems to try out.



Re: old unused ports: x11/ogle and related

2011-07-05 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 23:32:00 -0400
Predrag Punosevac wrote:

> Maybe it is just me but I have never been able to get out of MPlayer
> half decent
> support for chapters. Ogle is still my default DVD player.

I find it strange that a 10 year old firmware dvd player can play the
occasional really weird disc who's menu simply refuses to work on PC
dvd player software. I think xine and ogle coped best with the weird
discs but didn't really work like they should. OTOH I don't need an
engineering code or disc conversion to play foreign region discs on PC
and firmware dvd players ecc often suck with DVD-Rs.



Re: old unused ports: x11/ogle and related

2011-07-05 Thread Amit Kulkarni
>> Ogle and related ports
>>
>> x11/ogle
>> x11/ogle-gui
>> x11/goggles
>>
>> The main homepages:
>> http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/
>> http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~dvd/
>> etc.
>
> Ogle is still one of the best dvd players out there (if not the best), with
> support for chapters and menus that actually *works*. Plus, the intuitive
> interface and bookmarkings (especially the goggles frontend).
>
> It has a few (very few) limitations: it cannot be used to encode dvds, nor
> does it support Closed-Caption subtitles.
>
> Contrary to (say) mplayer, it also has a decent decoding model that use
> separate processes for various things. Thus, it can play dvds on multi-core
> machines that would be unable to do so otherwise (yes, I realize those are
> a bit old these days).
>
> Also, it does not depend on the kitchen sink:
> echo$ SUBDIR=x11/ogle make all-dir-depends|tsort|wc -l
>      22
> echo$ SUBDIR=x11/vlc make all-dir-depends|tsort|wc -l
>     151
> echo$ SUBDIR=x11/mplayer make all-dir-depends|tsort|wc -l
>      68
>
> Obsolete you say ? by no mean !

Sorry for that, guys. This convinced me, less dependencies is what I
like, I will try it out too.



Re: old unused ports: x11/ogle and related

2011-07-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 07:02:26AM -0500, Amit Kulkarni wrote:
> Ogle and related ports
> 
> x11/ogle
> x11/ogle-gui
> x11/goggles
> 
> The main homepages:
> http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/
> http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~dvd/
> etc.

Ogle is still one of the best dvd players out there (if not the best), with
support for chapters and menus that actually *works*. Plus, the intuitive
interface and bookmarkings (especially the goggles frontend).

It has a few (very few) limitations: it cannot be used to encode dvds, nor
does it support Closed-Caption subtitles.

Contrary to (say) mplayer, it also has a decent decoding model that use
separate processes for various things. Thus, it can play dvds on multi-core
machines that would be unable to do so otherwise (yes, I realize those are
a bit old these days).

Also, it does not depend on the kitchen sink:
echo$ SUBDIR=x11/ogle make all-dir-depends|tsort|wc -l
  22
echo$ SUBDIR=x11/vlc make all-dir-depends|tsort|wc -l  
 151
echo$ SUBDIR=x11/mplayer make all-dir-depends|tsort|wc -l  
  68

Obsolete you say ? by no mean !



Re: old unused ports: x11/ogle and related

2011-07-04 Thread Predrag Punosevac
On 07/04/11 16:10, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Jul 2011, Amit Kulkarni wrote:
>
>> Ogle and related ports
>>
>> x11/ogle
>
> AFAIK ogle was the only software that would provide me with decent DVD
> video playing.
>
>> x11/ogle-gui
>> x11/goggles
>

Maybe it is just me but I have never been able to get out of MPlayer
half decent
support for chapters. Ogle is still my default DVD player.

Predrag



Re: old unused ports: x11/ogle and related

2011-07-04 Thread Nigel Taylor

On 07/04/11 16:10, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:

On Mon, 4 Jul 2011, Amit Kulkarni wrote:


Ogle and related ports

x11/ogle


AFAIK ogle was the only software that would provide me with decent DVD
video playing.


x11/ogle-gui
x11/goggles



Hi,

I use ogle for playing DVD's.

Regards

Nigel



Re: old unused ports: x11/ogle and related

2011-07-04 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011, Amit Kulkarni wrote:

> Ogle and related ports
> 
> x11/ogle

AFAIK ogle was the only software that would provide me with decent DVD 
video playing.

> x11/ogle-gui
> x11/goggles

-- 
Antoine



Re: old unused ports: x11/ogle and related

2011-07-04 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2011-07-04, Amit Kulkarni  wrote:
> Ogle and related ports
>
> x11/ogle
> x11/ogle-gui
> x11/goggles
>
> The main homepages:
> http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/
> http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~dvd/
> etc.
>
> give a version of 404. Upstream looks to be down permanently.

That in itself is not a reason to remove it *iff* it is still useful.




old unused ports: x11/ogle and related

2011-07-04 Thread Amit Kulkarni
Ogle and related ports

x11/ogle
x11/ogle-gui
x11/goggles

The main homepages:
http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/
http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~dvd/
etc.

give a version of 404. Upstream looks to be down permanently. No
release in past 7 years? Many would be happy with vlc, mplayer etc

goggles is now a music manager @ version 0.12.2
http://code.google.com/p/gogglesmm/

and can be resurrected if anybody has any interest later.